Guild Wars 2

Asudementio.8526:

Doomdesire.9365:

Tarnished Coast
#Number1emotespammers
#WorstRoamers

To those two thieves running from a 1v2 and spamming /laugh, lmfao.

At least we can roam is packs of less than 5-10 (this is the typical case with SoR as i very rarely run into roamers of less than 5). Take some lessons from JQ before you pass judgement on roamers- SoR from all of my encounters runs unless they outnumber you greatly.

SoR also could take some lessons in behavior. This forum all week has been plagued with their kitten and tantrums. Too hard to white knight when you are winning SoR? SoRe losers and SoRe winners.

Wvw isn’t designed for 1v1. You need to move on.

Don’t rely on perma stealth as a crutch. You will become a much better player.

Nice work, SOR. You are living up to the ideals of your namesake and taking the moral high ground this week..

Smooth Penguin.5294:

tigirius.9014:

I’d say that two major things they could do to improve the overall game is eliminate RNG entirely and remove DR from the open world.

I will now address the problems with your idea.

1) Eliminating RNG means you also eliminate the rarity system. This kill the game, as once you provide a guaranteed way to get something, there’s no further need to do the content over. Then a short while later, all players will have the same items, and completely run out of things to do.

2) Removing DR hurts the economy. Certain players would benefit from continuous runs, allowing them unlimited income potential. Other players with limited time can’t complete, thus a huge wealth gap is created. The players that can afford to play more will have more available money, and will then control the Open Market. Inflation will be rapid, and all casual type players will hurt more.

Both these ideas are bad for the game, and will never happen.

Why would I want to be forced to do content again? Secondly, nothing in this game requires tons of gold.

I see no problems with loot in this game. I don’t want them wasting time on an imaginary problem.

Silas.8630:

Sanduskel.1850:

This wouldn’t surprise me. When I’ve asked about why we can’t get the vial of essence for the ascended back piece in wvw, I was informed that Anet wants all of us to experience fractals because its good for us. I guess they all want us to experience Orr because its good for us too, lol.

It is quite clear to me that anet despises wvw, simply because they promised that all ascended items would quickly be available in wvw, and they aren’t.

Hey, run a few fractals, die a few times, break all your gear, maybe you’ll buy a couple Recovery Packages cough cough

I’d rather uninstall than do a few fractals.

This wouldn’t surprise me. When I’ve asked about why we can’t get the vial of essence for the ascended back piece in wvw, I was informed that Anet wants all of us to experience fractals because its good for us. I guess they all want us to experience Orr because its good for us too, lol.

It is quite clear to me that anet despises wvw, simply because they promised that all ascended items would quickly be available in wvw, and they aren’t.

Kiijj.3594:

Titan.3472:

Hello SoR show us what you are made of this week ? At least until you find some excuse about loosing again XD

Quoting for hilarity.

Wonder where he went. Hmmm

TooBz.3065:

Junkpile.7439:

Why don’t you make 70 man blob train and kill t1 70 man blob train?

Because there aren’t 70 people left play WvW on the servers that have been abandoned by the WvW guilds.

I think you need to recruit and pay for people to transfer to your server like some of the big servers have! Get with the program!

/sarcasm off

SOR has the best community. It doesn’t need to pay for friends.

Thieves are no more nerfed than other classes, lol.

I am referring to the self righteous indignance, when in fact Anet did nothing wrong.

Kalla.4290:

scootshoot.6583:

Vash.9183:

spanky.4630:

Vash.9183:

IRON has got to be the most immature guild that has ever been fought in WvW. I mean, fuh real. Zerg the forums more. Whisper spam your enemies more. Emote spam more. Lul

Also, one thing… running with 35-40 guild members is more than any other guild in this match-up pulls on a regular basis. I really have no clue why you keep referring to that number as “low.” Any guild can do good if they have 35-40 guild tags following them.

Le sigh… Why does everything said in this thread have to be so cliche… even I feel like I’m repeating the same thing. Keep it up.

Iron has its trolls as does most of the guilds here . But to call a whole guild immature is somewhat immature And I don`t see anyone saying our number is low. Iron run about 35-40 dedicated members most nights. which is low compared to the mega blobs we fight most of the time .

But, even those “mega-blobs” aren’t much bigger than you. Plus they don’t have 35-40 guild numbers included with that blob. This is the point I am trying to make to a guild who harasses their enemy when their enemy loses.

You should be more concerned with making amends with ex MERC who jumped ship. It’s unfortunate BG’ers disrespected their past/present contributions to the server.

BG doesn’t remember its history well (or at least many of those that post here don’t).

Well with the revolving door of people bribed to be their friends on blackgate, it’s no surprise that they cannot remember who has been on their server, lol.

fail is a verb neither a noun nor an adjective.

thieves in pve are underpowered. they are fine in wvw, so unclear what the OP’s complaint is.

I’ve never had a problem dealing with a warrior on my thief.

You are playing victim, then

Jinks.2057:

mrstealth.6701:

ArchonWing.9480:

Except they are part of the competition. Just not in the way people demand…

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It’s time to stop posting b/c its well documented, even in the apology, that WvW is to played how each individual wants to play it.

All you are doing is making yourself look bad and misrepresenting your server.

Enough.

So you are a mod now?

Zacchary.6183:

I am using PvE as an example. The only difference between PvE and PvP is the enemies you face and while vastly different tend to require close to the same amount of planning and execution. Skill is relative and in most cases I find that using a thief takes way more than some of the other classes.

This isn’t solely because of the difference between combat mechanics but also because of the effort:reward ratio. Guards and Wars are facerolly classes and I am irked that their e:r is on the opposite site of the kitten spectrum of thieves.

I almost completely believe that thieves exist to be a scapegoat because thieves are handed the kitten end of the stick in almost every aspect of the game.

Thieves are the best 1v1 class and one of the best roaming classes in WvWvW. Sorry, but pve doesn’t resemble wvw.

Player Character.9467:

Sanduskel.1850:

Player Character.9467:

Sanduskel.1850:

Player Character.9467:

Sanduskel.1850:

I try to leave the gvg crowd be, but honestly many come off as elitist. Secondly, tonight there was a huge gvg event in tc bl, where we were fighting to save our keep. We could not get help in the bl, and when we asked for help to save our keep we were told to leave the bl. This is way too early in the match to be throwing the match.

No it isn’t, ur matched to BG and SoR. The match was thrown when it was made, don’t lie to yourself. Your highest tick not including the first couple hours was what? a 240?

Did I say which server I call home? Lol you know what they say abou ASSumptions.

Uh, you did when you referred to anything in TC BL as YOURS?

Our keep. As in we owned the keep, lol. reading is fundamental.

You sound like the kind of guy who refers to them as fishing camp, bay, that north keep, redbriar, etc. Nobody can read what you say until you speak the language.

Actually, I use compass directions. Thanks so much though.

Actually in Spvp, the thief is about right. I agree that the perma stealth crutch in WvWvW is broken.

Player Character.9467:

Sanduskel.1850:

Player Character.9467:

Sanduskel.1850:

I try to leave the gvg crowd be, but honestly many come off as elitist. Secondly, tonight there was a huge gvg event in tc bl, where we were fighting to save our keep. We could not get help in the bl, and when we asked for help to save our keep we were told to leave the bl. This is way too early in the match to be throwing the match.

No it isn’t, ur matched to BG and SoR. The match was thrown when it was made, don’t lie to yourself. Your highest tick not including the first couple hours was what? a 240?

Did I say which server I call home? Lol you know what they say abou ASSumptions.

Uh, you did when you referred to anything in TC BL as YOURS?

Our keep. As in we owned the keep, lol. reading is fundamental.

So why isn’t the vial of essence needed for the backpack available from WvWvW again? Didn’t anet promise in November that everything would be available via wvw? Some of us don’t want to suffer through 10+ fractal runs to get that drop. We’d rather have a chance after 20 hours in wvw. Why is this so difficult to implement? My only conclusion is that anet wants to force us to do the stupid fractals. Don’t give me the “it’s easy” answer. The drops can take up to 20 fractal runs, and for those of us who HATE fractals, that’s sheer torture.

Jinks.2057:

Sanduskel.1850:

Jinks.2057:

Sanduskel.1850:

I try to leave the gvg crowd be, but honestly many come off as elitist. Secondly, tonight there was a huge gvg event in tc bl, where we were fighting to save our keep. We could not get help in the bl, and when we asked for help to save our keep we were told to leave the bl. This is way too early in the match to be throwing the match.

1. You are facing 2 T1 servers…you aren’t winning this week.

2. TC BL will have SoR v JQ GvGs not TC GvGs

Again, think a little sonny. Who said I played TC? Lol

Ah it all makes sense now.

Maybe next time yall won’t buy guilds then

Ahh. A thief sputtering nonsense.

Player Character.9467:

Sanduskel.1850:

Condition removal is op. where is the power removal?

It’s called toughness

Nope.
Try again.

Jinks.2057:

Sanduskel.1850:

I try to leave the gvg crowd be, but honestly many come off as elitist. Secondly, tonight there was a huge gvg event in tc bl, where we were fighting to save our keep. We could not get help in the bl, and when we asked for help to save our keep we were told to leave the bl. This is way too early in the match to be throwing the match.

1. You are facing 2 T1 servers…you aren’t winning this week.

2. TC BL will have SoR v JQ GvGs not TC GvGs

Again, think a little sonny. Who said I played TC? Lol

Player Character.9467:

Sanduskel.1850:

I try to leave the gvg crowd be, but honestly many come off as elitist. Secondly, tonight there was a huge gvg event in tc bl, where we were fighting to save our keep. We could not get help in the bl, and when we asked for help to save our keep we were told to leave the bl. This is way too early in the match to be throwing the match.

No it isn’t, ur matched to BG and SoR. The match was thrown when it was made, don’t lie to yourself. Your highest tick not including the first couple hours was what? a 240?

Did I say which server I call home? Lol you know what they say abou ASSumptions.

I try to leave the gvg crowd be, but honestly many come off as elitist. Secondly, tonight there was a huge gvg event in tc bl, where we were fighting to save our keep. We could not get help in the bl, and when we asked for help to save our keep we were told to leave the bl. This is way too early in the match to be throwing the match.

i don’t care what people do in pve. it doesn’t affect me.

Go thief. warriors are a distant second

easy – i’ve played that spec. it was too easy. i am sorry that you don’t understand that permastealth is bad for the game and only for scrubs. I left it as soon as it was obvious how easy it is.

Condition removal is op. where is the power removal?

it’s fine as is.

Nuka Cola.8520:

Fixing thief 101

1- Increase HS initiatives to 4 (don’t remove its leap finisher as some suggested cuz that’s too much). This isn’t just for BP/HS spam but also for spam itself.

2- CnD initiatives increased to 7, can’t CnD on pets (clones and of that crap), damage decrease to spvp level.

3- Black Powder- you can only apply stealth once per black powder (3sec and 4sec if traited), stealth not stackable.

4- When attacking from stealth and the attack is missed/blocked, it should apply reveal and this goes to all classes

5- (cry me a river about this one, bro) Give a 5sec reveal after attacking from stealth, give a 1sec reveal after stealth ends even if not attacking from stealth.

No cries about thieves anymore and only baddies that can’t play their own class will come here to complain.

i main a thief and none of these would bother me a bit.

What’s wrong with zerging?

I am sorry that you think perma stealth is a legitimate play style. I don’t, and I think it hurts my favorite class, preventing it from getting fair treatment.

Unless you rely on permastealth as a crutch, you can do just fine in pve on your thief. Move on.

i can’t wait for my thief to get more challenging!

Imagi.4561:

Sanduskel.1850:

Maugetarr.6823:

Sanduskel.1850:

Maugetarr.6823:

Sanduskel.1850:

Imagi.4561:

Sanduskel.1850:

Maugetarr.6823:

Sanduskel.1850:

i play a thief and I agree that stealth is poorly designed. it’s op’d to be able to remain stealthed the entire time while attacking. that’s while I don’t spec permastealth. it’s for easymode scrubs.

You keep using that word but I don’t think it means what you think it means.
I forget who originally linked this a month or so ago, but I would say your constant attacking of other thieves is a projection of what you are onto someone else.

The Scrub:
http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/intermediates-guide.html

well if you have to rely on perma stealth, you wouldn’t recognize a true scrub.

I don’t particularly care for the stealth playstyle, but I don’t see how it is any more or less valid than evasion. It’s just a different way to play.

it’s much much easier to play that evasion. honest thieves admit as much. decent thieves consider it the scrub easymode spec.

Really? Honest and decent thieves admit as much? Both sets have their strengths and weaknesses. In fact it’s much harder to take down a boon bunker using D/P than S/D. You might actually see honest and decent thieves running around with both sets to make up for what the other is lacking. Everyone thinks that their class/build takes more skill to use. Warriors can wreck perma-stealth builds now by equipping berserker stance. BTW, I run around with S/D as my build because of the shortcomings of D/P. That would be the reason I linked the definition of scrub to you because you seem to think it’s just easy mode, but it’s pretty easily countered by skilled players. S/D is overall the stronger set, but keep telling yourself that you are better because you use evasion instead of stealth. Why don’t you try using both at the same time and see which one you end up relying on more.

it’s obviously easier. so many more thieves use the permastealth and that’s the spec that kitten es most players off. it’s very clear which is the scrub easy mode spec. why else would this spec be played by the majority of thieves?

It’s very frustrating that most thieves pick this scrub easymode spec, because it ruins the reputation of all people playing thieves. Many players hate me simply because I play a thief, but their rage stems from the exploitation of perma stealth in wvw.

Because no one ever complains about perma-evade boon stripping thieves right? They aren’t thinking about making changes to non-stealth thieves at all.

Nope. never heard a single complaint about that.

Really? Then, if no one complains about the boon-stripping capacity of S/D evade builds, why are they nerfing it?

no idea. ask them

I don’t really care for gvg, but I try to respect it. However, some gvg clowns are jack booted thugs and climb all over you if you accidentally stumble into their little frolic. I cant blame people for hating them. some of them are the most virulent stuck up elitists in the game. some..

I can collect 50 emp fragments in less than an hour in pve. it would take several days in wvw to get that many. lol. sure they want their wvwvw players. lol.

i can get 50 dragonite in less than an hour in pve. it could take weeks to get that much in wvw.

Maugetarr.6823:

Sanduskel.1850:

Maugetarr.6823:

Sanduskel.1850:

Imagi.4561:

Sanduskel.1850:

Maugetarr.6823:

Sanduskel.1850:

i play a thief and I agree that stealth is poorly designed. it’s op’d to be able to remain stealthed the entire time while attacking. that’s while I don’t spec permastealth. it’s for easymode scrubs.

You keep using that word but I don’t think it means what you think it means.
I forget who originally linked this a month or so ago, but I would say your constant attacking of other thieves is a projection of what you are onto someone else.

The Scrub:
http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/intermediates-guide.html

well if you have to rely on perma stealth, you wouldn’t recognize a true scrub.

I don’t particularly care for the stealth playstyle, but I don’t see how it is any more or less valid than evasion. It’s just a different way to play.

it’s much much easier to play that evasion. honest thieves admit as much. decent thieves consider it the scrub easymode spec.

Really? Honest and decent thieves admit as much? Both sets have their strengths and weaknesses. In fact it’s much harder to take down a boon bunker using D/P than S/D. You might actually see honest and decent thieves running around with both sets to make up for what the other is lacking. Everyone thinks that their class/build takes more skill to use. Warriors can wreck perma-stealth builds now by equipping berserker stance. BTW, I run around with S/D as my build because of the shortcomings of D/P. That would be the reason I linked the definition of scrub to you because you seem to think it’s just easy mode, but it’s pretty easily countered by skilled players. S/D is overall the stronger set, but keep telling yourself that you are better because you use evasion instead of stealth. Why don’t you try using both at the same time and see which one you end up relying on more.

it’s obviously easier. so many more thieves use the permastealth and that’s the spec that kitten es most players off. it’s very clear which is the scrub easy mode spec. why else would this spec be played by the majority of thieves?

It’s very frustrating that most thieves pick this scrub easymode spec, because it ruins the reputation of all people playing thieves. Many players hate me simply because I play a thief, but their rage stems from the exploitation of perma stealth in wvw.

Because no one ever complains about perma-evade boon stripping thieves right? They aren’t thinking about making changes to non-stealth thieves at all.

Nope. never heard a single complaint about that.

thiefs haven’t really been nerfed very hard at all compared to other classes. secondly, the next patch change won’t really hurt stealth at all.

Tap.9430:

Honestly?

I was disappointed with stealth when they announced how it would work.

I played DAoC for years and years, when I heard that Anet liked it I was hoping for thief to follow along the lines of the shadowblade/assassin/inflitrator.

Then I learned about the skill bar and I went “SWEET COOKIES!, They could have a skill bar that changes when you’re stealthed to some stealth only skills like setting traps and some sort of attack”

I was sad when stealth wasn’t a perm toggle like DAoC that just made you run fairly slow and could only be entered ooc, so you have to plan your strike then you’re in for a fight and have to rely on dodge, with 1 maybe 2 insta stealth skills if it hits then fan.

Then again i was also sad thief didn’t get rifle as a weapon selection

bingo. daoc stealth required much higher play skill than perma stealth here.

Maugetarr.6823:

Sanduskel.1850:

Imagi.4561:

Sanduskel.1850:

Maugetarr.6823:

Sanduskel.1850:

i play a thief and I agree that stealth is poorly designed. it’s op’d to be able to remain stealthed the entire time while attacking. that’s while I don’t spec permastealth. it’s for easymode scrubs.

You keep using that word but I don’t think it means what you think it means.
I forget who originally linked this a month or so ago, but I would say your constant attacking of other thieves is a projection of what you are onto someone else.

The Scrub:
http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/intermediates-guide.html

well if you have to rely on perma stealth, you wouldn’t recognize a true scrub.

I don’t particularly care for the stealth playstyle, but I don’t see how it is any more or less valid than evasion. It’s just a different way to play.

it’s much much easier to play that evasion. honest thieves admit as much. decent thieves consider it the scrub easymode spec.

Really? Honest and decent thieves admit as much? Both sets have their strengths and weaknesses. In fact it’s much harder to take down a boon bunker using D/P than S/D. You might actually see honest and decent thieves running around with both sets to make up for what the other is lacking. Everyone thinks that their class/build takes more skill to use. Warriors can wreck perma-stealth builds now by equipping berserker stance. BTW, I run around with S/D as my build because of the shortcomings of D/P. That would be the reason I linked the definition of scrub to you because you seem to think it’s just easy mode, but it’s pretty easily countered by skilled players. S/D is overall the stronger set, but keep telling yourself that you are better because you use evasion instead of stealth. Why don’t you try using both at the same time and see which one you end up relying on more.

it’s obviously easier. so many more thieves use the permastealth and that’s the spec that kitten es most players off. it’s very clear which is the scrub easy mode spec. why else would this spec be played by the majority of thieves?

It’s very frustrating that most thieves pick this scrub easymode spec, because it ruins the reputation of all people playing thieves. Many players hate me simply because I play a thief, but their rage stems from the exploitation of perma stealth in wvw.

Imagi.4561:

Sanduskel.1850:

Maugetarr.6823:

Sanduskel.1850:

i play a thief and I agree that stealth is poorly designed. it’s op’d to be able to remain stealthed the entire time while attacking. that’s while I don’t spec permastealth. it’s for easymode scrubs.

You keep using that word but I don’t think it means what you think it means.
I forget who originally linked this a month or so ago, but I would say your constant attacking of other thieves is a projection of what you are onto someone else.

The Scrub:
http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/intermediates-guide.html

well if you have to rely on perma stealth, you wouldn’t recognize a true scrub.

I don’t particularly care for the stealth playstyle, but I don’t see how it is any more or less valid than evasion. It’s just a different way to play.

it’s much much easier to play than evasion. honest thieves admit as much. decent thieves consider it the scrub easymode spec.

p.s cnd isn’t unreliable, lol

Maugetarr.6823:

Sanduskel.1850:

i play a thief and I agree that stealth is poorly designed. it’s op’d to be able to remain stealthed the entire time while attacking. that’s while I don’t spec permastealth. it’s for easymode scrubs.

You keep using that word but I don’t think it means what you think it means.
I forget who originally linked this a month or so ago, but I would say your constant attacking of other thieves is a projection of what you are onto someone else.

The Scrub:
http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/intermediates-guide.html

well if you have to rely on perma stealth, you wouldn’t recognize a true scrub.

i play a thief and I agree that stealth is poorly designed. it’s op’d to be able to remain stealthed the entire time while attacking. that’s while I don’t spec permastealth. it’s for easymode scrubs.

Yes, that Columba character was a trip!

bhagwad.4281:

I know it’s supposed to be a good thing – no gear treadmill etc. But after playing crazily for over a year, getting a legendary and ascended weapons I have nothing more to do and haven’t logged in for two weeks!

I wish there was something like “infinite leveling up” where I always have some newer and better goal to achieve. Always some better and stronger armor, or something like that. As things stand now I just feel like I’ve done everything.

Does anyone else feel this way?

No, but then again I am employed full time.