Guild Wars 2

rozcinana.7249:

Sergoros.4398:

Heh. Remembered 1 thing, thats gone unmentioned in this thread. Aggro. Mob usualy attks players with highest dps and highest armor. What can we get from it? The lowbie…who survive better, cause his dps is crap and he have no armor.

So yep, High level, who practicaly carrying a leecher on his back would die more, then leecher, who pretends, that he is doing smth. Well…Thats just another side of the coin. Imho high levels still have no right to be downed more often, than lowbie -_-. But average 80 lvl might be trapped such way.

Your first paragraph makes a good point about aggro that I didn’t think of before I posted my previous comment, but then you ruined it with the second paragraph by calling players under 80 leechers and claiming that we don’t add anything of use to the group. Anyone that meets or is above the recommended level for a dungeon shouldn’t be considered a leecher. And being complimented and thanked for my contributions despite my character being in her 40-50s in a few of my PUGs over the weekend tells me that I sure as hell did something for the group. Don’t generalize, some of us “lowbies” know what we’re doing and know how to maximize what we got.

Boy, this forum is great for weeding out people I would never want to play with.

Well… that was intended. I just like to use strong words. Thats make it more fair and fun, then using “player, who brings a little less, then others in his team”

Want it or not, but lvl 80 is carrying lowlevels, no matter how u look at it. Thats not to bad. But thats how it should be looked. Mby its true, and u had rly bad team, where u was usefull enough. But thats it. In pro team u would be falling out, cause of lack of efficiency.

rozcinana.7249:

I have been leveling my new guardian in AC so I’ve done a lot of runs this weekend and didn’t have any problems getting a group. However I noticed a lot of my 80 teammates going down or dying a lot more than me so level ain’t nothing but a number it seems!

Heh. Remembered 1 thing, thats gone unmentioned in this thread. Aggro. Mob usualy attks players with highest dps and highest armor. What can we get from it? The lowbie…who survive better, cause his dps is crap and he have no armor.

So yep, High level, who practicaly carrying a leecher on his back would die more, then leecher, who pretends, that he is doing smth. Well…Thats just another side of the coin. Imho high levels still have no right to be downed more often, than lowbie -_-. But average 80 lvl might be trapped such way.

SynfulChaot.3169:

Sergoros.4398:

Sure. There is noobs among 80 lvls. But there is much more noobs amongs <80. Thats obvious. Noob=/= kitten Noob is basicaly a newbie. So thats obvious, that among low levels ull find more newbies. Though there is a kitten among any groups. U can’t use kitten 80 lvls groups against pro skilled 35 lvl group. U should measure best 80 lvl group u been in and best <80 group u been in. That would be your answer.

Again, we all know that equally experienced players will always be better on an 80. That has never been questioned. We are saying that there is no real reason not to party with them as the difference in completion time of dungeons is small if they are skilled.

But u can’t test the skill without wasting time. And no one likes to waste time. So u can’t say “take this <80, cause there is a chance, that he would be skilled.”. Nope. It wont work. Unskilled 80 lvl at least have some gear/trait/experience noob shield, which helps him to survive. Unskilled <80 lvl doesnt even have this. So. By probability. Chances, that 80 lvl run would go smoothly is higher, then <80 lvl run.

SynfulChaot.3169:

Sergoros.4398:

And also…this arguments not taking into account player skill, cause player skill have only 1 thin thread, that links to levels. And this thread is in a high level argument side. Cause there is higher chance, that when player invested more time in game – his skill will be higher. Thats just how numbers work.

Unfortunately, time spent in games does not necessarily mean skill. It would be great if it did, but it does not. I have met highly skilled players not yet at 80 and I have met terrible players in full exotics at 80 (and wondered how they got them). I have, of course, also met bad sub-80s and great 80s.

All I am saying is that, unless you are outright going for/arranging a speedrun, you should accept people of any level in your dungeon runs.

Thats wy i said thin link. Not a great prove to everything! Just a thin line. Again…by probability, higher level/achivement players would do better, then low ones, cause more time u spent in game, more time you had to learn, how your class works. Thats all about it. Today me would roflstomp myself of 5 monthes ago. Cause I know much more about my class and the game, then before.

It doesnt mean, that bad player would suddenly become good. But he would become better, than he was before. Thats how gaming world works. More time u invest – better player u become. Even if a player is not very smart and keep pushing bad build of his char….he still would do better with this build, then before, cause he would train timings better and better.

Sure, There is genius low lvls and “not smart” high levels, But if u take whole picture, and not only small frame of it… ull get same answer. By probability, your run would do better with 4 random 80, than with 4 random 35.

Afoxi.6854:

I’ve seen groups of kitten level 80s in crafted exotics wipe on AC Explore repeatedly because they can’t do Hodgin’s DPS check.

And then I had another run where two of us brought 3 <50 players in. We completed all three paths flawlessly, and even got 2 Kholer kills across 3 attempts.

Scaling is fun. Geared level 80s who think they’re hot kitten are not.

Sure. There is noobs among 80 lvls. But there is much more noobs amongs <80. Thats obvious. Noob=/= kitten Noob is basicaly a newbie. So thats obvious, that among low levels ull find more newbies. Though there is a kitten among any groups. U can’t use kitten 80 lvls groups against pro skilled 35 lvl group. U should measure best 80 lvl group u been in and best <80 group u been in. That would be your answer.

SynfulChaot.3169:

All these arguments of sub-80s not having the same traits as level 80s does not take into account one thing. Player skill. If all players are playing optimally, yes an 80 will be better. Noone is arguing against that.

I have personally found that most lower level players in dungeons (those that it is not their first time) are overall better players than most 80s. This makes sense as they need to be to be able to complete the content well. Many (though not all, thankfully) 80s, especially those who insist on 80 only parties, rely too much on their gear and not enough on their skill and on teamwork.

My experience is different. Most times i remember <80 in dungeons with me. – its them dead on the ground asking for rez. Most of the time we dont even bother to return for them after skip. Just do dungeon with 4 of us, cause thats faster, then being perma rez machine.

And yes. Today I had 59 war in my team. Exactly same experience. Yep. He even had high achivements. Looks like it didnt help.

And also…this arguments not taking into account player skill, cause player skill have only 1 thin thread, that links to levels. And this thread is in a high level argument side. Cause there is higher chance, that when player invested more time in game – his skill will be higher. Thats just how numbers work.

SynfulChaot.3169:

Sergoros.4398:

Traits. Im talking about traits. Any players, that plays at 100% of his char would tell ya, that traits is vital to his char. With just 1 trait i can double my dmg against 1 enemy. And this is just 1 trait. And this 35 lvl lack not only 1 trait. He lacks 2 branches of the whole trait tree.

Traits are vital for full effectiveness, yes, but a skilled player will make full use of what traits they do have. And a majority of sub-80 players are at or above level 40, at which they have access to the master level where most of the crucial traits are. Yes, an 80 will be better. Noone is arguing that. We are just saying that it will not be like night and day. It will be a small difference if the player is skilled.

em….. u do realize, that 1 is less, then 2.5? 2,5 times less. Even if u have 1 vital trait. U still missing on 2 others. And thats day and night difference.

Sergoros.4398:

Sergoros.4398:

U sure u have any 80 chars? Or u have only 5 80 lvl wars? Cause ill say difference is HUGE.

Check my sig, good sir. Not a warrior or mesmer at 80 yet. My first 80 (and my main) is a ranger. So no easy-mode here.

Thief…yeh…no easy mode. yep…. Guardian isnt hard too… So half of your classes is easy mode =p.

SynfulChaot.3169:

Sergoros.4398:

Leo G.4501:

Sergoros.4398:

Then u not using your char at his 100%. Most likely u even one of this true heroes who goes in melee and then 1-1-1-1-1. Yep. This guys wont notice any difference. Im playing mesmer and allways change my traits depending on boss. Need range? Pistols. Need melee? Focus. Long range fight with probable casualitys? Mantras. Need reflect? Warden reflection. And etc and etc. I can change to glamours. I can change to signets distortion. So much flexibility. How can u even compare it to wooden mesmer of 35 lvl?

None of what you just mentioned is trait specific and yet you’re attacking me because you think I don’t swap traits? A lvl 35 mesmer can swap in any of those weapons and any of those skills for whatever circumstance you just outlined.

Now try again. You’re getting closer to the meat of the difference though.

Weapons. Not traits. In example. Weapon traits give u lower cd. Clone trait gives u less cd on clones. Warden reflection doubles the dmg of any projectile i reflect with warden.
Healing mantras giving u ability to heal allys. And etc and etc. Wy should i even mention it? Like someone said… l2p and know it yourself

Lower level does not mean no traits. It only means less traits. A good player will still trait for maximum effectiveness.

That would be way lower, then max effectiveness, of max lvl char…

Leo G.4501:

Sergoros.4398:

Then u not using your char at his 100%. Most likely u even one of this true heroes who goes in melee and then 1-1-1-1-1. Yep. This guys wont notice any difference. Im playing mesmer and allways change my traits depending on boss. Need range? Pistols. Need melee? Focus. Long range fight with probable casualitys? Mantras. Need reflect? Warden reflection. And etc and etc. I can change to glamours. I can change to signets distortion. So much flexibility. How can u even compare it to wooden mesmer of 35 lvl?

None of what you just mentioned is trait specific and yet you’re attacking me because you think I don’t swap traits? A lvl 35 mesmer can swap in any of those weapons and any of those skills for whatever circumstance you just outlined.

Now try again. You’re getting closer to the meat of the difference though.

Weapons. Not traits. In example. Weapon traits give u lower cd. Clone trait gives u less cd on clones. Warden reflection doubles the dmg of any projectile i reflect with warden.
Healing mantras giving u ability to heal allys. And etc and etc. Wy should i even mention it? Like someone said… l2p and know it yourself

SynfulChaot.3169:

Sergoros.4398:

Leo G.4501:

Sergoros.4398:

This difference is huge.

It is not.

I say it’s not, because I’ve actually leveled multiple characters through dungeons and the difference is always minute.

Then u not using your char at his 100%. Most likely u even one of this true heroes who goes in melee and then 1-1-1-1-1. Yep. This guys wont notice any difference. Im playing mesmer and allways change my traits depending on boss. Need range? Pistols. Need melee? Sword. Long range fight with probable casualitys? Mantras. Need reflect? Warden reflection. And etc and etc. I can change to glamours. I can change to signets distortion. So much flexibility. How can u even compare it to wooden mesmer of 35 lvl?

At level 35, a chara has access to all the same skills as a level 80. They can bring the same useful skills to any battle. The only difference is whether or not the chara has the traits to make the skills even more useful, but even a level 80 rarely (if ever) is traited to emphasize all of the skills they use in dungeons.

Traits. Im talking about traits. Any players, that plays at 100% of his char would tell ya, that traits is vital to his char. With just 1 trait i can double my dmg against 1 enemy. And this is just 1 trait. And this 35 lvl lack not only 1 trait. He lacks 2 branches of the whole trait tree.

SynfulChaot.3169:

Sergoros.4398:

SynfulChaot.3169:

If you don’t have the traits needed to make certain skills useful, you don’t run those skills. A skilled player will know what they can and can’t do well at their level. The biggest difference between two players is skill, not level.

Then u would be less usefull. Cause ur not flexible for any situation. Not even mentioning, that u dont even have all the traits. Ur not only unflexible, but also underperfoming, cause u dont even have the whole trait line.

Even a fully-traited 80 is not flexible for any situation. All builds are built to emphasize certain things. If you go outside of that yes you will bring more utility to a certain situation, but you are not using that skill at full potential. A good sub-80 can still bring plenty of utility. They will be slightly less flexible, but they will still be flexible.

U sure u have any 80 chars? Or u have only 5 80 lvl wars? Cause ill say difference is HUGE.

Leo G.4501:

Sergoros.4398:

This difference is huge.

It is not.

I say it’s not, because I’ve actually leveled multiple characters through dungeons and the difference is always minute.

Then u not using your char at his 100%. Most likely u even one of this true heroes who goes in melee and then 1-1-1-1-1. Yep. This guys wont notice any difference. Im playing mesmer and allways change my traits depending on boss. Need range? Pistols. Need melee? Focus. Long range fight with probable casualitys? Mantras. Need reflect? Warden reflection. And etc and etc. I can change to glamours. I can change to signets distortion. So much flexibility. How can u even compare it to wooden mesmer of 35 lvl?

SynfulChaot.3169:

Sergoros.4398:

SynfulChaot.3169:

Sergoros.4398:

Drachshyish.2319:

You’re not at full power at lvl 80 in AC… Barely at a quarter of your power…

Traits and utilitys . Thats main source of power for our chars. Without full trait tree your char is merely a shadow of his class.

It depends on the build you are running. You have full access to all skills/utilities at level 30, which is below recommended level for all dungeons. While it is true that you do not have access to all traits, that will only make some builds unusable.

Yes, an 80 will be better. But the difference is too slight to exclude people.

This difference is huge. Cause sometimes u survive with only 10% hp. Without this traits it would be certain death. And maybe even wipe for whole party.

I know, cause when I swap my utilitys and forget about it…im doing quite horrible in dungeons. And thats only when swapping em. How long would be fall, when u even dont have the traits needed for them?

If you don’t have the traits needed to make certain skills useful, you don’t run those skills. A skilled player will know what they can and can’t do well at their level. The biggest difference between two players is skill, not level.

Then u would be less usefull. Cause ur not flexible for any situation. Not even mentioning, that u dont even have all the traits. Ur not only unflexible, but also underperfoming, cause u dont even have the whole trait line.

SynfulChaot.3169:

Sergoros.4398:

Drachshyish.2319:

You’re not at full power at lvl 80 in AC… Barely at a quarter of your power…

Traits and utilitys . Thats main source of power for our chars. Without full trait tree your char is merely a shadow of his class.

It depends on the build you are running. You have full access to all skills/utilities at level 30, which is below recommended level for all dungeons. While it is true that you do not have access to all traits, that will only make some builds unusable.

Yes, an 80 will be better. But the difference is too slight to exclude people.

This difference is huge. Cause sometimes u survive with only 10% hp. Without this traits it would be certain death. And maybe even wipe for whole party.

I know, cause when I swap my utilitys and forget about it…im doing quite horrible in dungeons. And thats only when swapping em. How long would be fall, when u even dont have the traits needed for them?

Drachshyish.2319:

You’re not at full power at lvl 80 in AC… Barely at a quarter of your power…

Traits and utilitys . Thats main source of power for our chars. Without full trait tree your char is merely a shadow of his class.

YTY.4712:

If you want to get the rewards as fast as possible, I suggest using gw2lfg.com and request a experienced party. However, think about it this way: when you were under level 80, I bet you got to run dungeons with other people who were already 80. What would you have thought if they didn’t want to play with you at all and everyone kicked you when they saw you weren’t 80? That wouldn’t feel good at all. You were helped when you were a lowbie – It’s just a right thing to do once in a while to return the favor!

Yep. And using it just like u said ^^.

And…I leveled to my 80 only on www+events+quests. Was in a ac story mode once. Me and mine buddy. Two of us. Though I bugged all the npc with mine mesmer and we failed to do it without em ^^. So….yep… I decided to w8 till level 80, when ill be at full power.

YTY.4712:

Yesterday I got 2x level 35 players in my AC run. Well, both of them got instagibbed by the flame stairs in the beginning, leaving the rest of the party 3 man the queen spider. I bet some of these elitists would just have said: “screw this” and disconnected, ruining the dungeon. But we carried on and had actually great fun. Most lower level players actually communicate more than the “thx for the run” in the end which makes running a dungeon also a social event.

Isnt it sweet, when u have so much free time? Some ppl have limited time and have to do several dungeons in a day + daily. And they have like 3-4 hours for that. Isnt it cool, when dungeon, which u can do in 1,.5 hours, is 3 hours long thx to this newbies? No. It isnt. U can’t force your way of playing on others. Cause ppl different. Sure. If i had the time, it would be fun to teach newbies new dungeon. I even do it sometimes at weekends. When im in a good mood

SynfulChaot.3169:

I am referring to fighting, not running. I prefer clears, not ‘avoid all but the bosses’.

And I prefer skips. If it is not rewarding > it is not worth the time to kill.

SynfulChaot.3169:

Sergoros.4398:

Wethospu.6437:

All those level 80 teams with 3k+ achievements who stack on Lupicus phase 1.

U should buuu them. He is soloable sometimes

also. “all those low lvls with low achivements, that can’t pass dogs in ta”

I whet my dungeon teeth in TA before I was level 80. The dogs require teamwork and stunbreaks. Any level 55+ (minimum recommended level) team can pass them provided they have the skill, regardless of their achievement point count.

And lupi is doable for lvl 80. It was sarcasm on his post. Isnt it obvious? Also dogs dont require teamwork. Every class can pass em solo.

Wethospu.6437:

All those level 80 teams with 3k+ achievements who stack on Lupicus phase 1.

U should buuu them. He is soloable sometimes

also. “all those low lvls with low achivements, that can’t pass dogs in ta”

SynfulChaot.3169:

I know some with high achievement points and average skill, and some with low achievement points and high skill. Completion of content does not necessarily teach great skills. It teaches skills that allow you to pass the content. Nothing more. Nothing less.

Look. I said achivement=exp. Not achivements=skill. Thats 2 different things.

Also. If he passed this content – he have some skill to pass it. Thats good too.

SynfulChaot.3169:

Sergoros.4398:

Achivement points also helps. If i c low lvl with low achivement > newbie. Then this run wont be fast> not fit.
If low lvl have some high achivement means, that its alt and most likely he wont draw us down to much.

Achievement points =/= skill. I have seen very skilled players with low achievement points. High achievement points == completionist. Nothing else.

High achivement points shows, that player invested some time in the game. Most likely he is experienced.

Game WIN formula= skill+gear+experience.

U dont need all 3 to do dungeon. But u need some of it. Ppl who seek for 80 > focus on gear+skill.
Ppl who seek for high achivement > focus on experience +skill

If I c low lvl char with high achivement> means he is alt. Means, that, most likely, this player already familiar with this dungeon on his other char. Or at least he is familiar with game mechanics and can dodge.

So…im my opinion, Achivements>lvl> random pug with low achivement and low lvl

Achivement points also helps. If i c low lvl with low achivement > newbie. Then this run wont be fast> not fit.
If low lvl have some high achivement means, that its alt and most likely he wont draw us down to much.

Djinn.9245:

2. I was replying to a comment made about magic and fireballs. As I said, fireballs have a purpose – they burn your enemy. What do the unicorns and butterflys do to your enemy? I didn’t ask what they stood for.

To burn enemy brain. With butterflys u blind your enemy. And with unicorn u shock him.

Also. Its much harder to dodge arrow if it looks like unicorn. u dont know exactly where real attk is. U just c an unicorn )

MithranArkanere.8957:

But the unicorn being the projectile. Now that’s something more out of the plane of Chaos that something you’d see normally.

How about a bow, that casts illusion of unicorn on any arrow it shoots? How it sounds now?

Gehenna.3625:

If for example you end up in a funny quest chain or story line with a mad mesmer or something who then in the boss fight or whatever ends up using a weapon like that I would think that’s funny. If I can’t play a day without running into someone with one of those bows then it gets old really fast and in fact it gets annoying because it does detract from the atmosphere I like in a fantasy setting.

Here u go. Thats right way to go. Thats how i feel about it. Just try to take it farther. Imagine, that every player, that uses this bow, is roleplaying some kind of soldier of that mad mesmer army. And it would fit perfectly. U should just think beyond the normal fantasy setting.

Gehenna.3625:

On TV and in movies there is too much teen angst fantasy or child heroes etc. I can guarantee you that if someone started shooting a bow with rainbows and unicorns in every game of thrones episode it would get old real soon and detract from the story line. If you don’t get that, then ok, but that’s how it is for me.

It wouldnt fit there. Cause game of thrones is to serious. And only because of that.

Gehenna.3625:

GW2 already has baseball caps and little by little this game is showing to be made for teens and not for more adult players who like games to be a little bit darker and less contemporary references in it.

U wrong here. U know, that bronies isnt kids. Right? Some of my friends is quite old. The times when darkness was trendy is over. It doesnt mean, that ppl dont enjoy it. It just means, that darkness isnt only adult thing u could think about. Now both is fine. U dont have to be evil and dark to stay cool. With rainbow u could be 20% cooler

Gehenna.3625:

Overall the game feels too childish. One could say a game doesn’t have to be dark and dreary all the time and I agree but the whole world doesn’t breathe a bit of threat or darkness in GW2. It’s all too colourful and “my little pony” style. Some of it looks fantastic but even Orr doesn’t feel threatening. Barren yes, but threatening no.

About the world…did u do story? For me it has some nice threat. Some parts was very sad. Malchor history…and much more. This game have its dark sides. It just doesnt make all of them into some kind of emo vampires. Look at this world from a normal human perspective. U live in a world, where u kinda pressed to the wall. U had so many enemys. And somewhere there in the world 6 dragons is going to wake up and buck up the world. And then. Suddenly. Most of your enemys become friends. U all unite against one dragon AND WIN! Isnt it a cause for some party?

Btw…i dont like unicorn. For me, only thing it has to do with mlp – is having cutie mark. In other aspects…its just a horse with horn -_-

Gehenna.3625:

And yes, to be honest if I have to run into people firing unicorns at me, I do start to wonder if I ever want to come back to this game at all, because for me it kills immersion. I really am tired of all the kiddie/girlie fantasy stuff. I don’t mean pretty armour and outfits and all that but shooting unicorns just doesn’t work for me.

Common. How it breaks immersion? Gw2 lore have unicorns. Gw2 lore have mesmers who can create any ridiculous illusion to play with your brain. Is it hard to imagine legendary bow with this combined? Would fit in lore for me.

Did anyone ever though that shooting unicorns isnt so ridicolous, if u think about em as illusion. Shooting unicorns would be ugly. But shooting arrows, that look for everyone like unicorns – is a true mental attk, It would even fit in the gameworld. By shocking your enemys, you make them open for your next attk.

Sylvari just tend to be like anime character. With some yellow colour, tier 2 hat makes perfect super saiyan hair

Im so happy. Finaly The Curse will be undone!

Common! Srsly. Mesmer would be perfect commander! U dont need to tell em where u want portal. U just put it where u need it ^^.

Queen of humans is mesmer. Many dragon champs were mesmers. So u have no other choice!

Dont big red triangle with small-small words “kill” and “me”, also serves as bulleye?

Well..it is noticable. Though….I just can’t find a place in my build for it. Other trait lines is just SOOooo much better ^^

They stack. Though Phantasmal Haste reducing cd for PHantasm skills, not cd of their summoning. It means, in example, duelist will shoot more often.

Most likely this question was put up already somewhere. But OR much times passed…or it was forgotten. So i have to ask.

Is there any plan on improving mesmer illusions AI?

I know. They work much better then before. On even ground. But there is 1 annoying thing i hate. When Im fighting on uneven ground (like mountain roads or even on stairs….). Clone just stops for 5-6 secs and starts thinking. It kinda breaks my playstyle.

Especialy with sword 3 skill. So many enemys was able to run away from me only because he dont want to run for them. He just wanna stand and watch. This skill is already half broken with summoning bug. But with this….best way to run away from mesmer? Find some stairs or hill and start climbing!

Happened to me just now -_-

Same here. Happened 3 days ago…2 days of normal drop…though no boosters…and nothing today.

I hope, with time, they’l just add some mystic forge recipe, which will upgrade any exotic into ascended for a reasonable price. So ppl wont feel, that efforts of getting exo gear was waste of time.

Yes…yes…its useless…so powerup mby?

3 full exo armor sets, 3,5 full exo jewelry sets. 2 full exo weapons sets. Thx Anet for wasting my efforts -_-

Btw…i wonder what they going to do with triforce amulet? I wasted my 80g for nothing? 0_o

Yes…im very excited…in a bad way.

I hate the new ascended items

Well..looks like www and pve is now WoW infected. Only safe oasis now is spvp. I hope they wont add treadmil for spvp -_-

Even +1 stats is still better…so my multi sets for multi tasks will just rot away? Not fun. I hope they’l give us an easy way, to transform our exo into ascended. Or it will be just a spit in the face of all ppl, who farmed this multi gear for the sake of future need.

If you want make something popular – you should make it profitable. I want to see many different zones in the game, but I shouldn’t feel, like im wasting time and doing this only for fun. Always thoughts like " eh…u could have wasted this time on smth different and already could have earned some gold, instead of this copper."

Well…thx for info anyway. Now, thx to you, I can at least work on using portals in www. U can’t work on plan, if your weapon works with 50% failure chance.

Well…did know everything except for range of portal. Well…I hope u right and im just placed them to far from each other…

Btw….they rly should add range to description. How I was supposed to know about range of 4000?

So…If i understand right…. I can use portals only in max range of catapult boulder throw?

Portal skill just doesn’t work right. It fails to often. As much as I understand, it just doesn’t work if:

1) U make portal near some object that can be clicked with F button. U just dont get and portal msg at all. So…u can’t teleport.

2) Sometimes it fails cause of landscape. Dunno what triggers it…to low land…or to high… or it just doesn’t work on slope…anyway…it annoys most of all….cause trouble N1 u can at least understand and not use portals near clickable objects….but u can’t predict landscape.

3) It just to slow to appear…sometimes…even when everything is perfect… u just have to w8 to long. Portal already opened….but u still have to w8 for 2-3 seconds for F to appear….

Can u guys plz do smth with this skill? Maybe change mechanic for 3-rd activation of this skill? Smth like 1-st press = entre portal. 2-n press – exit portal – 3rd press – teleport every non enemy hero in aoe of exit and entre portals. Mayby 4-th and 5-th clicks should be about teleport as well.

P.s. Srry if my english to bad. Tried my best -_-.