Guild Wars 2

This next question is really aimed at everyone:
What, if anything, does ANET really need to do to cater to “SMALL MAN” warfare in a WORLD vs. WORLD setting beyond what is already available?

Craig.2403:

A 5-man group can take down a zerg, but when the zerg runs to the nearest tower and half the zerg gets on arrow carts and fires away, it’s not fun for anyone at that point.

See there’s one of the things that I believe a lot of us are overlooking. Fun. Fun, is a relative term. What one person considers fun is not necessarily what another person considers fun. Somehow we all seem to know exactly how people have their fun.

Protip: We don’t.

What you consider fun and what I consider fun are very likely two different things. If you (you generally, not YOU specifically) are not having fun, then find something else to do. PLEASE don’t assume that since you, or a very vocal minority, are not having fun with something, then it must surely mean that no one else is having fun.

Craig.2403:

However, it should not be JUST zergs. There should be an option for small man roaming. Because of ET’s low population, we need an option to have small man groups be effective. Unfortunately, they can’t be because of the reasons Jscull and some others have described.

Small man groups can contribute in all of the ways I’ve already described (plus many more I’ve probably overlooked). If anyone should know that, it’s we ET’ers. Sure we can toss a “zerg” together on occasion, but we are the epitome of getting things done with small groups. Just the other day, five random players grouped up (not even partied), and took back every single camp and veteran on our map in a ridiculously short amount of time. Five people, who didn’t know each other, talking in /S chat made a meaningful (as defined above) contribution to our server. Well, for at least one or two ticks anyway.

Craig.2403:

We want WvW to be fun for EVERYONE, not just zerglings.

That’s impossible. You can’t please all of the people all of the time. We play games in a fantasy world, we don’t actually live in them.

edit1: Impending editing for readibility. That was a lot of typing. Shew!
edit2: Our current train of discussion isn’t really matchup-oriented. I wonder if it’s better to move it out of this thread…

(Warning: Lots of text. I even had to break it up into two posts…)

World vs. World is about accumulating points by holding locations and killing sentries. The end (of the week) result being the server with the most points wins. We each clearly interpret “winning” differently and some might even argue that there are no rewards for winning, but that’s not really true.

Anet gives world bonuses that are dependent on how many points you have accumulated. It stands to reason that a server that has the most points is also, on average, accumulating more WXP and more loot for its players. There is also an official “ranking” that a server attains by winning their matches. Until recently, one could have also said that winning a match would help you attain map completion too (by being green), but that’s been changed. Maybe some of us don’t like the rewards, but that certainly doesn’t mean that we don’t get any.

Craig.2403:

Not really. We’re not saying fix WvW for small man, we’re saying make small man a viable option.

Why don’t you think the small man is a viable option as WvW stands now? There are a few cases to be made about “small man” operations that fit into what I believe to be the intent of WvW:

1. Camps, and towers usually, are goals that are well within the capabilities of a small-man group. I can’t count the number of times where I’ve been a part of a small group that has taken a tower. It’s super easy, especially when an opponents attention is diverted because they’re facing a larger allied group (that “zerg” that lots of people seem to hate). Heck, camps can be solo’d. You can’t get any smaller than one.

2. Guerialla fighting. Your server’s zerg getting ready to attack Hills? Take a small group and go knock on the doors of Garrison and Bay. Divert attention from the true operation so your bigger team can put the smack-down on Hills.

3. Cut off reinforcements. Now that the previously mentioned attack on Hills is proceeding in earnest, start cutting off the reinforcements. Prevent those singles or small groups from getting into Hills to defend. Is your small man REALLY talented? Take on that zerg that’s heading to defend. Maybe you can’t stop them, but maybe you can slow them down enough to allow your allies time to get into the Lord’s room.

4. Do you feel like your enemy is hard at work building defenses or upgrading their structures? Grab the Quaggan island so the lightning can start working on the siege. Cut off supply by killing Dolyaks. Destroy cannons, mortars, oil, and other siege within the range of AoE. Basically soften up a target as best as you can to make it easier to take later.

5. Stop OTHER small teams from doing all those things that I just mentioned

6. Kill everyone you run across while doing all of the aforementioned things.

What I DON’T believe to be the intent of WvW with regards to small teams is simple:

1. Team vs. Team fighting, whether pre-arranged or roaming around with no other intent than to find other similarly-minded small teams looking for the same types of fights. This contributes nothing to the PPT.

(con’t in next post)

Jscull.2514:

Shademehr.1397:

As WvW stands now, there is something to do for everyone’s play style. There are opportunities to play 1vs1, 5vs5, 10vsXXX, use the siege, defend the castle, run the dolyak, grab that supply camp, or whatever you consider “fun”.

You elitists that insist WvW is completely going downhill because it doesn’t support YOUR view (and ONLY your view) of “fun” need to pull your head outta your hineys and realize the world (or a game) don’t revolve around your gaming preferences.

I enjoy all the above mentioned aspects of WvW, which is why I’m there almost every day, as time permits. You whiners and haters? Hit the road. I surely won’t miss you.

Wrong buddy, not something to do for everyone. There aren’t highly skilled groups running around. I have fought every tier below 5 for a year now and can count the groups that give us a solid fight with both hands. That’s pathetic considering there are 20-60 mans running around. So what you said is false. 90-95% of the population does the same thing. And calling us elitests is just pointing out what we are and what we’ve earned. We’re here to compete, not kitten around and play grab kitten with buddies somewhere in the Internet world . Like I said earlier… Most of the population is here for social gathering, reason I’m complaining is because I’ve played other games with WAY less potential with WAY MORE competitive people/teams. Just doesn’t exist here nor does Anet want that. They like majority money spending casuals.

Can’t find something you like with the game? I think my last three sentences address your concern.

Alternatively, you could try Gears of Modern Call of Battlefield Warfare on consoles. I hear Xbox Live would be great for you to find like-minded individuals.

As WvW stands now, there is something to do for everyone’s play style. There are opportunities to play 1vs1, 5vs5, 10vsXXX, use the siege, defend the castle, run the dolyak, grab that supply camp, or whatever you consider “fun”.

You elitists that insist WvW is completely going downhill because it doesn’t support YOUR view (and ONLY your view) of “fun” need to pull your head outta your hineys and realize the world (or a game) don’t revolve around your gaming preferences.

I enjoy all the above mentioned aspects of WvW, which is why I’m there almost every day, as time permits. You whiners and haters? Hit the road. I surely won’t miss you.

I’m not debating the ability to run hassle-free in a PvP jumping puzzle. “If you’re red you’re dead”, is my philosophy.

I am simply stating that a Mesmer that had to rely on his opponents to succeed in a JP is the opposite of “skillfull” imho. He was also deceitful. I’m inherently leery of most things (a genuine glass is half-full kind of guy to boot), so I wouldn’t have been in that situation to start with.

But as is the case in most situations on the internet, the bootyholes seem to get the praise.

Put simply, that Mesmer (the player behind him actually) is what I consider to be the dredge of society. He gets no kudos from me. Praise away.

Jscull.2514:

This is the reason wvw is plummeting south. People want decency out of enemies more than skillful fights. A shame. Lot of potential in the game as well.

Which part of that mesmer’s actions were “skillful”?

IF WvW were “plummeting south” as you say, I’d wager it’s because of behavior like this mesmer’s.

A shame.

Eidola, I think you’ve hit the nail on the head. I was having the same problem but I resolved it yesterday:

I went and activated every single Hologram Projector and killed the holograms. Once the Projectors respawned, I ran through the same batch again and then Aetherblades began to spawn on over half of them.

Hope this helps!

Azaruil.3406:

When that happens though, it is best to jump right back out, as not doing so is taking advantage of a bug that a-net can’t seem to fix.

No, it’s best to come to the anet forums and start tossing around hacking accusations.

You’re doing it wrong.

Tei.1704:

Euryon.9248:

So you’re complaining about a server that is severely outpopulated by both of its opponents this week using whatever resources they do have to defend their own borderlands? I’m the one saying “WoW”

I suppose you think ET should just give up and let SF and HoD fight over the spoils.

ET is outnumbered in general, not in every fight. You’re speaking generally, but I’m talking about a very specific instance. Just the number of people required to activate a breakout was twice the amount of enemies they intended to fight. They weren’t underdogs using a necessary mechanic to win. I’m not complaining either. I just think it’s ridiculous that some people on ET decided having double the enemies’ numbers wasn’t enough. I know it’s not just ET that does it either. People from HoD and every server will do similar things.

In this very specific situation, you were a coordinated guild (GT) party (probably in the same voice chat) that was fighting some randomly thrown together group of ETers and were doing a pretty good job of stomping us as we came out in 3’s and 4’s. Once we had enough of being outnumbered by you guys, we gathered up a few other people from the map and put you out on your hiney with the BO event.

We used the tools we had to get our tower back. Try sPvP if you’re looking for more “fair” fights.

Npac.3476:

I think PAXA should just gank everyone and be done with it.

Agreed (for everyone, not just PAXA). Then there would be no illusion of an organized and respectful fighting opportunity.

If you’re red, you’re dead.

Saint of Virtue.8329:

…When a group ruins a gentleman’s agreement (Which fight night is) regardless of reasons or justification, the agreement falls…

This is the voice of reason right here. ^^^

I hold the word “duel” to be synonymous with “honor”. There is nothing honorable about ganking players who are participating (by watching, competing, etc.).

No means no, folks. Seems fundamentally simple to me.

sioux.1653:

We are small in number but huge in heart. I don’t usually show map screenshots but I want you to see what we can do when we’re out severely outnumbered.

Great job y’all!

I’m down with giving any help I can, Suspense. Just look me up in-game. Character names in sig. Please, tell your friends, “Welcome to ET!” for me.

sioux.1653:

Devon.9061:

Before this thread becomes a PAXA hate thread because neither side is mature enough to avoid conflict in a video game. I would like to remind you guys of the official PAXA forums http://eredonterrace.enjin.com/forum/m/11529470/viewthread/7140316-well-looks-like-paxa-won-forum-war

Thank You
-Everyone else in this thread

I don’t know if it’s funny or sad that all of the people posting in that thread have left ET for one reason or other.

I quit those forums, but I’m still with ET. <3 you guys too much.

Thanks for the S/D info Jumper. When I first built my thief back at the start of the game, I played a D/D and Sb build with condition damage (PvE). A couple of months later when I started getting into WvW, I switched to S/D and I’ve loved it ever since.

Sadly, my thief got “abandoned” when I moved on to rolling new alts but I decided to start playing it again in the last two weeks. I came straight here to the Thief subforum to catch up on all the thief buffs and nerfs that have happened since I last played the class and was thrilled to see that there’s some recent information out there about the S/D combo.

Thanks for your post!

DeadlySynz.3471:

If this happened, I wouldn’t be surprised if both ET and FC just packed it in for the week. The ratings system doesn’t really matter in this scenario because honestly, what enjoyment would any of those servers have.

I’m not going to say that I speak on behalf of ET (but I think many share my view), but we aren’t packing in jack kitten. Ever.

Smart is relative I guess so take this with a grain of salt but………

I think the “smart” thing to do at this point is for FC and ET to double-team their opponents. There are three servers in each matchup and I feel that when you have a situation where you are being overwhelmingly outmanned, the enemy of your enemy should become your friend. To me, it almost seems that Anet intended this by including an odd number of servers in the matchups.

What do we “win” by doing this, though? Tougher opponents? A move to Tier 7 and more of the same? I don’t know that the “rewards” for winning are very rewarding in the case of FC and ET.

At the end of the day, I’m fine with being in T8, I’d just like to be freakin green for once.

Just wanted to say thanks a bunch for the free mini’s Anet! They’re pretty neat.

Have him give Eredon Terrace a try. Our “zergs” are anywhere from 5-10 during most times. We can occasionally get up to 25ish but those times are in the extreme minority. We tend to get a lot of respect from our opponents and other people in the forum for our tenacity and “never give up” approach.

Because our groups are so small, EVERY player can (and does) make a difference.

If your friend likes facing strong odds, laughs in the face of adversity, and enjoys recognizing the same friends every time he plays WvW, then suggest Eredon Terrace as his home.

Make no mistake though, he will be facing an uphill battle all. the. time. Staying positive is a requirement.

We zerg all the time at Eredon Terrace. Sometimes we get 7 people. Sometimes we get lucky and there are 12 or so. On rare occasions we might see a blob of 15-20.

AndrewSX.3794:

Everything you need to know about combos in wvw:

-Blast+Fire = Might aoe
-Blast+Water = Heal aoe
-Blast+Static = Swiftness aoe

Everything else is secondary, even if situationally can be good (whirl+light = cond removal, blast + light= retal aoe).

Also, when you’re regrouping to do combos only that specific kind onf field must be laid.

In other words, To all guardians around, STOP using symbols when ppl try to buff up.

When you get aoe retal instead of 2 min swiftness because a guard laid down a symbol while ppl blast a static field, it’s incredibly annoying.

SO MUCH THIS!!!

I’ve been calling out for fields in the Southsun Cove Instigator farming so that I can cluster bomb the mess out of them. I’m hopefull it’s leaving an impression but I fear all the PvE guesters are getting more of an education than our ET folks.

Thanks for your effort in posting this Parktou and thank you too AndrewSX for distilling it down. +1 to both of you.

MrkittennHoudini.7842:

This would be a fun match up if ET didn’t roll over to SF.

Roll over to SF? o.O

We fought them with everything we had last night as they methodically painted our ENTIRE BL their color. Once we lost a location, we’d fall back to the next and try our darnedest to get it ready, hold it for a bit, then finally get overrun.

We also tried to break back into EB a few times, but we couldn’t get passed one or two towers before we would get pushed out again. Our keep is (was?) so sieged up it wasn’t even funny. Well, maybe it was haha.

What you see is what we have for numbers. We give it our all and we try to stay positive. Sometimes that’s all we can do.

@SF: you guys have learned some new tactics since you’ve been “off to college”. Now that you’re back home, maybe we can learn from them too.

@Cedrick: great post man. I’ve been looking for you in-game to chat. Hope to see you soon.

ArcturusWolf.1205:

Four days in a row I’ve only been able to find two other people on the map. No talking, nothing. So we were forced to watch helplessly as HoD and SF zergs just rolled over everything we had that was fortified.

I can sympathize. Guess how many people where in EB last night defending our keep as SF melted down the water gate? I think it was about 1-2am. Somewhere around there. Reset night.

Guess how many.

(Hint: 3 And I think one of those was AFK)

Oh yeah, we lost the heck out of it.

holy moly. did we draw the short straw or what. LOL!

Hey there big bro! hahahaha

Yeah, I know DrixTrix. I was just stating that I was having the opposite experience of what Kootje was saying which was: higher drop chance of Mini than Crate.

But for the record, I haven’t found anything at all in the crates beyond flowers, shells, and fruit.

Sorry for the confusion. I should have used the reply function so it was more clear.

lunyboy.8672:

Robert Hrouda.1327:

EverythingXen.1835:

Well I hope they were summarily smacked upside the head.

Success and failure happens as a team, and no individual is purely responsible in these moments. It’s as much a failure of the patch notes is it is of mine not to have read the patch notes as closely as I should have.
It’s not my job to write the notes or to market the material, but it is my job to ensure what they are about to say is factually correct and accurate. I and my team failed to do that, so we share just as much responsibility as they do.
Lessons were indeed learned from the experience, and we’re changing a few procedures around to try and ensure something like this doesn’t happen again.

Spoken like a Leader, not just a manager. Well said.

And AMEN for people that can recognize the difference. Kudos to you lunyboy.

It’s pretty clear to me what the Karka Queen is and why the tentacles are important.

Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wgah’nagl fhtagn

:)

It’s a beachy vacationy location (Southsun). I was hoping for something that fit the theme. Shells. Leather (lizard skin). Skimpy-ish (hey, it’s the beach!). Maybe something similar in design to those Hylek weapons but not quite so oogly.

I’ve found six crates since this event started and zero mini’s. I’ve spent about 2-3 hours a day in Southsun since the new events started.

RNG

Terrahero.9358:

… got a breakout event, on a Thursday, while leading with 150.000 points. Yeah.. they really needed the boost right there…

This is my number one issue with the Breakout Events. When a server is so clearly dominating the competition, they should not be able to start a breakout event anywhere except their own Borderland.

If there are some other underlying issues on your server (not YOUR server, just speaking generally), then no amount of free transfers will fix the problem permanently. Everything will seem ok with the new influx of people, then slowly but surely people and guilds will start transferring back out.

Faux Sheaux.6179:

Shademehr.1397:

Make it so caravan and camp guards can revive yaks if they’re within their aggro.

WExp farming time

Hmmm. How about when the Yak goes down, one of those capture circles appears? Once all hostiles in the circle are killed, you can then get the WExp from killing the Yak.

Make it so caravan and camp guards can revive yaks if they’re within their aggro.

So a year+ to get the best gear in the game for multiple characters?

Seems fine to me.

Bedazzle.5746:

A. A group of 5 tries to infiltrate a keep
B. A zerg of 75 tries to infiltrate a keep

The answer is obvious, so that does mean mechanics play a large part. Those mechanics force a zerg strategy. You cannot take an entire castle with 5 players.

5 Players shouldn’t be able to take a keep. It’s a KEEP. When in history, have 5 people ever been able to storm a castle (keep). Granted, that is a real-world example and we’re talking about a fantasy world here, but I think there is a parallel to be made.

With that being said, I have been a member of a 5-man party that has almost taken a keep. North gate of Bay. Knocked it down, then started on inner north. But, then our zerg arrived to help us finikitten. However, the conditions had to be aligned PERFECTLY for the five of us to get as far as we did.

Now towers? Yeah, you can five-man towers with much less effort.

Camps? Absolutely definitely, for sure. Sometimes even with 1.

I guess what I am trying to say is that there are challenges that are specific to group size. Is the challenge to big? Is your group to small? Finding a more appropriate goal may your answer.

(edit: finikitten…really?) lol!

Yeap, I’ve also seen that.

@highlandria: I feel your pain. You on the ET forums?

Maybe they’re just checking out the new Southsun Cove content.

Yamato Shinobi.4378:

1. Is Anet aware of the ‘Rubber-Banding’ that has started to occur after their latest monthly patch? (where for example you fall off a cliff, don’t take any damage, run a little ways and fall flat on your face and take damage)

I’ve had a slightly different problem: I’ll run off a cliff (heading to the NW supply camp for example in our BL) and hit the ground. Get up and run for about a half of a second, then fall of the same cliff again. Get up and run for about a half a second, then fall of the cliff AGAIN. I’ve had it happen up to four times, before I can actually make it into the supply camp.

This happened to an arrow cart I built in the north west tower between the gate and the ramp. It wasn’t being attacked. The key difference, if I understand everyone correctly, is that it had been built for a while, as opposed to being “fresh”. I “used” it to reset the siege, and then less than 1 minute later and right before my eyes, it vanished.

Even if I hadn’t reset it at that time, there were still a tad over 24 minutes remaining on its timer. I remember the incident very clearly as we were preparing for an impending attack and I was checking the tower to see what we had to defend. Then, after it poofed, I inquired in /m chat if anyone had ever seen anything like that before.

^^^

Confirmed that Northern Shiverpeaks still works for the Diessa Plateau mysterious devices. (I did not check Wayfarer Foothills as they still work on my home server: Eredon Terrace)

Here are a few additional things that KWBH would bring to a server (from an “outsiders” perspective)

*When I’m in the ‘ole homeland BL and we’re getting our hineys handed to us, I tend to hit the contacts list to see who else is online that might be able to provide some assistance. I have ALWAYS been able to count on KWBH (usually lead by Jugg) to come within minutes to lend a hand. More often than not, they are usually the difference in us keeping our BL or losing it. I’ve never heard any complaining from them. I’ve never felt as if they think it’s a burden to come and help. They’re always cordial. There are many “thank you’s” (at least from me) and “your welcomes” from them. When everything is mopped up, or at least stable, they move right back to where they were and keep on keepin on.

*I’ve personally never had any negative interactions with their members, leaders, or Commanders. They’ve always been pretty easy to /m chat with.

*Their guild-tactics are good and always seem to be getting better. Many people are familiar with [Agg] and [FoE] on our server, but [KWBH] is one of those guilds, like those two, that seem to be genuinely interested in being the best players they can be and always seem to be making improvements.

*They seem to work well with “pugs”. Speaking as a “pug”, I’ve never felt unwelcomed when I run with their guild. I’ve never felt like I was being hung out to dry or taken advantage of because I wasn’t a [KWBH].

There are probably other things to mention, but those are some of the key things I can think of at this moment. For the record, I WOULD LOVE IT IF THEY WOULD STAY AT ET. I’ve enjoyed the time spent playing with them and I’ll definately be sad to see them go. With that being said, if they’re absolutely set on leaving, I wanted to at least make sure that I could lend some support to a great bunch of folks, since they’ve helped support us at ET.

Good luck [KWBH] and if there is anything that I can do to make your remaining time more enjoyable at ET (or convince you to stay haha), please look me up.

Flappybob.1950:

Shademehr.1397:

Truthfully, there were only two people that tied me to [Mend] and sadly they chose the company of 40 over 4 when they departed for “greener pastures” with you. Sadder still is that I now think of them as just “another Mendie” that have been drinking your Kool-Aid. There were a significant bunch of good people that didn’t compromise their integrity by sticking with [Mend], and in hindsight, I really wish they had left too.

You should have chosen your words more carefully, because I don’t think they will be your friends anymore after this. Congrats on hurting people, hope it lets you sleep better at night.

Finally – If you have beef with me, this isn’t the place to do it. Take it to mail/whisper/whatever. Or just come kill me in WvW, that could be therapeutic for some, but don’t do this kind of public shenanigans…

After several (at least 5) attempts to /w a few weeks after their departure (with no replies) plus ties being severed in the last week by being kicked by one of the few things that held us together (the original guild), I came to my conclusion with the best evidence that I have.

For the record, I always choose my words carefully and I thought long and hard about a public or a private post (knowing full well that a public post would make me subject to Anet’s wrath). I’m the kind of person that posts my concerns publicly so there is nothing lost in the translation of others (he said / she said) and so everyone knows that it is me standing by what I say, for better or worse.

I also know of several Commanders who would use this to lead their groups without having to use their Commander tag. Seems like it was pretty useful for that purpose as well.

Flappybob.1950:

The only honorable ET on the entire bl last night

Touche.

Linanthony.1809:

The offensive on ET constantly is due to:
1-your coverage is bad and your towers aren’t upgraded well
2-FC has the most committed team of upgraders ever.
3-one of the guilds on our server like to stay in ET and hold your stuff :P

1 is what I’ve mentioned as one of the biggest reasons we get “double-teamed”. It’s not that HoD and Ferg are cooperating, it’s because they’re going for the easy target. If everything is paper because we aren’t upgrading, then that’s EXACTLY why they’re perfect targets. Coverage is also a concern. If we can’t be in your BL keeping you guys busy, then you’ll darn sure be in our BL keeping us busy. Sadly, in order to actually have a force in your BL, we have to have a decently sized force in our own BL to defend against the other incursions while also completing upgrades/yak escorting/supply camp defending/etc. It’s definately a struggle and I’ve been through a significant amount of coin lately.

2 I don’t have any facts to back this up so take this with a grain of salt but it seems that HoD AND Ferg seem to upgrade the stuff they’ve captured in our BL faster than we upgrade the stuff we own.

3 One day I hope I can really learn the facts behind where the hate comes from with this particular guild (assuming we’re talking about the same one.) I’ve heard some second hand stuff from our server (from several unrelated but reputable people) and while I wouldn’t consider it to be completely kitten it’s definately on the darker side of the “grey area”. I’ve been pretty vocal on my server about defending this guild in the past, but I’ve been silent recently because now I’m not-so-sure.

There was another group of people that left from a guild on ET and I just can’t wrap my head around that one either. I certainly appreciated their effort and said so numerous times. I even participated with them pretty heavily (the guild I mentioned above too) during their time on our server.

@ You two groups of people, why did you leave?

Regardless, there seems to be lots of animosity now, to the point where people have personal vendettas…on both sides.

Flappybob.1950:

…and built about 20 bits of siege…

Us? Build 20 pieces of siege? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Now I know you’re lyin.

pita spoon.5708:

also, ET, did you do something to make FC mad??

That whole experience was super frustrating. We were the epitome of uncoordination last night, even with 2 Commanders (conjoined twins apparently) on the map. A single tower and a camp preoccupied the majority of everyone’s attention while everything else came crashing down despite like a brazillion calls for help all night long.

I logged before the attack on the Garrison so I never saw that (3 hours of sleep the night prior made me sleepy).

Runamok.9638:

This type of discussion would seem to be better suited to the ET server forum. Would love to have you over for dinner to talk things out. ????

http://eredonterrace.enjin.com/forum/m/11529470

^ ^ ^

I heard that’s where all the cool kats and kittens hang out.

I had my own “WTF” moment in the exact same area over the weekend that was eerily similar to yours but there were some key differences so it wasn’t the same one. It made me sad too.

Now for something completely different:
I’ve seriously debated starting a fund to scrape together 100g to get “that guy” a Commander tag. Admittedly, his presentation leaves a lot to be desired, but once you unwrap all the bargain-bin packaging, he has some honest and accurate observations.

There, I said it. (edit: and gawd help me)

(Also, if you’re sick of the banter you could block him. Not sure if you were aware of this option so I thought I’d toss it out there too.)

Xavi.6591:

Both?

This. ^^

In WvW, I use them both almost equally and I’ve had pretty good results.

Darek.1836:

Actually just got a tip that the decision was made before there were insults.. as in they decided to leave last Sunday, and that also not only Agg will be funding it, but also KWBH and FoE

So wait a minute. Is Agg at “fault”? KWBH? FoE? FSU? ET for being what FSU might be looking for in a server? All of FC that may or may not have insulted them and made them feel unwelcomed? I’m not entirely sure what your stance is Moobs, so I’m not necessarily directing this at you, but what exactly is the problem here?