Guild Wars 2

Very entertaining to watch. I love messing with people by using terrain jumps and such with Savage Leap.

Twiggy.2138:

Why cant people just agree that it was hard, everything that made it harder was just part of it being hard.

It took me more time to find an open arena than it did to beat her. =/

Fiorrello.8126:

as a condition warrior, i eat hammer/mace shield warriors for lunch

This. It makes me sad that this was apparently not a night I was roaming on Ehmry.

Either an offhand burst or a secondary burst for two handed weapons would be nice.

I wouldn’t mind seeing some sort of visible recharge bar for traits like that, myself, so that I know in a split second whether to rely on Last Stand or to pop my utility. At least then it wouldn’t result in me using the utility, thinking LS is on CD, only to end up using both because of what you’re saying.

nomdeplums.5780:

Can I just give a big shout out to the incredibly awesome roaming and dueling culture of EB? You guys are officially my favorite server to fight.

EB roamers and duelers are just leagues ahead of anything I find in T3 or above servers. Have had plenty of fun fights and have met some really good players. Hope the fun lasts the rest of the week.

As someone who prefers to roam and enjoy the fights more than the PPT, this is good to hear.

Dio.2394:

Yes, “The odds aren’t stacked in my favor, so I won’t play”, that’s the attitude that built…. well nothing. Have fun in your basement assuring your collection of action figures that you are the bestest ever!

I didn’t feel too much like fighting huge zergs during primetime. It’s really a matter of preference.

Oh lord, no, your nighttime zerg was far outnumbering Ehmry’s nighttime defenders. It’s undeniable. Enough posturing.

Aeros.2046:

Perhaps you giving up easily is why you lost to BP. We did after all, lose to ehmry bay for 3 months straight. It only made us better though. Unlike you, we’ve never thrown in the towel. All those times you crowed over leading us coming into the work week? Well, we beat you in the end. Since March, Borlis has never come in last place. Maybe once you stop giving up, you’ll manage to win against us.

Incidentally, why is this thread still running?

I actually played every day and was a part of our night defense in keeping our assets safe from roamers and small groups up until the nightly lolzerg came while I was asleep.

No, the point difference was due to the living story content and different population levels at different times of day, not to mention a loss of prominent WvW guilds. Saying that Ehmry “gave up” is just some sad effort to make Borlis Pass look better after months of being stomped into the dirt and you honestly do not know me or the people I play with if you condescend by saying we “give up easily”. Maybe you’ll understand if you’re matched against FA next, lol

Dio.2394:

Yes, because you have proven to be Oscar Wilde of the interwebz. Go flex your kitten in your current match-up, this is part of the 30 hours or so you can actually do well, so don’t miss a minute of it!

More of the motions, blah, blah, blah. It’s dreadful that people such as yourself are allowed to exist. Anyway, I spent tonight watching Netflix because we’re matched against Fort Aspenwood, who has a distinct population advantage against both Ehmry and Crystal Desert, so there was little point.

Dio.2394:

New, like grading posts on the internet?

Typical response of someone trying to sound clever, going through more of the motions, etc., etc. Perhaps you should harass one another, I’m sure you’d find it endlessly fascinating.

wwfam.2495:

Things would be a lot different right now if EB’s wvw skills were as good as their excuse making skills.

F minus minus.

Come up with something new. You bore me.

BlackBeard.2873:

Also, the -40% food makes warriors invincible/unkillable in wvw when combined with melandru runes and dogged march as well as knights armor. I don’t think its intended to be able to ignore what your opponents do and just try to smash them into the ground. I’d expect the food to get nerfed a bit, eventually, which would go a long way to fixing this (i.e. its not class-specific)

lol, Knight? You should see Apothecary.

Oh boy, more colossal zergs running around if I recall. At least I’ll be busy doing non-GW2 stuff this week.

Dio.2394:

You claimed BP was winning because of PVD during off hours. I pointed out that you are losing in prime as well. You are the one making excuses, I am just pointing out how thin they are.

Okay, we can play it that way.

You want to point out my “thin” excuses? Maybe you should take a kittening look at the undeniable facts I’ve already provided. There’s a rather living story update that a number of Ehmry’s players are occupied with, not to mention the PvE champion farming taking place. Ehmry has also lost prominent WvW guilds. As a result of both of these, Ehmry has lower population during prime time and off hours, although the off hours are exactly where BP makes its biggest point gains with almost no player opposition. One must also not forget that there is a third server by which to leech points from, or lose them to. It’s rather pathetic that this even needs to be clarified, but then I suppose someone who aims to insult me by calling my “excuses” thin without actually bothering to regard a single one of my other posts would exhibit such behavior.

Either way it’s PvDoor and zergballing to take advantage of higher population. Skill has nothing to do with it and your sad little forum posturing can do nothing to change that.

Now if you’re done with your absolutely pathetic efforts to point out my “thin” excuses in some desperate attempt to make a name for your horrible server and your unbelievably fragile ego which is for some bizarre reason based on the collective success of said server, this issue is now resolved as you have thoroughly demonstrated that not only do you have absolutely no argument, but that you are utterly incapable of reading and comprehending any comments which destroy such incompetent remarks to the contrary as you have total garbage evidence to provide in the name of whatever trash I was supposed to take as gospel truth from some forum warrior I’ve never encountered in-game and never care to.

Go sPVP if you want to duel and stop making excuses about WvW.

sPvP is vastly different in terms of build setups and overall scenarios to the point where they are not even comparable for the sake of what you’re so badly trying to accomplish with this feeble statement. If I wanted to play sPvP, I would go play sPvP. As it stands there is a niche of us who prefer to do what we do in WvW, as we do it, and that is what we shall continue to do whether you prefer to hide in towers or not.

And in this vein, since you apparently lack the basic mental capabilities of reading what I said above, WvW has little to do with “you” and “I” unless you are dueling me. Until you actually face me in a duel, you have not “won” anything over me; I understand how difficult this concept can be for those people still stuck beating their chests, but those of us who walk upright would prefer to use forums for something beyond such laughable exchanges.

Good day.

Dio.2394:

To be “fair”, we beat you down during prime time as well now. If you take a look at the income evolution on
http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/49/
you will see green higher than red every night this week at 8pm, smack dab in the middle of west coast prime time.

Once again, population levels rise and fall along with peak hours for each server. Congratulations, your mindless zerg can cap towers when nobody is playing during a large living story content week. If “you” want to beat “me”, perhaps you should actually fight me. Beyond that, at this point, it’s nothing but a game of PvDoor.

Champion farming is awful. Just more brainless zerg mentality to grind two areas and completely remove people from every other aspect of the game. This was a horrible idea.

I’ve also heard that it is bugged to deliver double confusion at the moment, so that might be part of the problem.

Snow Ghost.6817:

When you RUN away, you effectively reset the fight for yourself as you get out of combat and completely heal up while leaving your opponent with conditions on them.

This is a low move in a 1v1 fight in my opinion. Anyone that breaks combat does not deserve to win that fight.

Bit like getting moa’d

I usually just break combat for long enough to give myself another advantage. I expect most people to blow CDs or initiative hoping to chase as well, so I consider it part of the fight, especially if they want to fight outnumbering me.

Stone.6751:

I believe you. However, we are just having fun pointing out that when you all are losing in PPT the forum warriors tunes changed to “score? who plays for that? that’s for newbs, we just want to just fight pvp style”

But when you all were winning, all those weeks you “dumpstered” our server, you all sang the tune of, “BP is just bads who run around like savages. We at Ebay are far superior at WvW so allow us to enlighten you: we have structured guilds with dedicated groups for yak escorting, scouting, upgrading our structures, and zerg busting. Poor little BP is just bads; you should learn how to use siege and play for objectives you silly monkeys!”

Its nothing more than humorous to us, so don’t get all “rustled”.

To be fair, I still consider the majority of the BP I’ve seen to be “bads”. Even as far as PPT is concerned, the one and only reason BP is successful right now is because of a large numbers and time-of-day advantage, not to mention the loss of prominent zerg busting guilds in Ehmry. If Ehrmy’s state were as it was before, BP would still lose horribly. Very little has actually changed in that department from what I have seen.

Nightcapping with a huge golem-led zerg is not server skill; you may as well brag about beating someone in a basketball game when they’re not even on the court.

Aeros.2046:

The goal of WvW is take and hold towers and keeps. The very nature of how you win means the best strategy is to tower hug. If you are not hugging your towers you are inviting the possibility of losing.

Remind me again how one wandering player is such a huge threat to justify three people fleeing and bunkering down on a wall? I think there’s been one time, late night, where I’ve actually trebbed and taken a tower alone with defenders still inside, and tower hugging obviously didn’t save them. And yes, I /laughed.

Anyway, what I’m saying is that people rely on overwhelming numbers as a crutch, thereby stunting themselves in actual personal skill, which can and will come back to bite them in the kitten when they’re either a) caught alone and/or b) when lolzerg2win fails due to changing game mechanics.

Dio.2394:

Sil.4560:

Anyway, reset is really the true show of a server’s ability I think.

The more correct versions would be:
“Anyway, reset is really the true show of a server’s ability to stay home on a Friday night and play video games I think.”

rofl, fair enough. Either way, reset night seems to pit a server’s best abilities against each other more than any other time of week.

Elixir.2169:

Uncle Shags.9017:

[video]

This is coming from the man that when he starts to lose a fight he RUNS! If your going to run then run i’m fine with you running. BUT don’t come back to fight once you heal up. That’s the lowest of the low moves.You sir are the last person to talk!

Some classes have, as a strength, the ability to put distance between themselves and their enemy to refresh. With my warrior build I’m actually able to disengage while healing a good amount of health and at the same time keeping my enemy in combat with conditions. I’ve taken down multiple people using this tactic while alone.

Stone.6751:

Farout.8207:

Sil.4560:

just confirming that there are groups on Ehmry who just roam and fight. I could personally care less about most of the objectives.

It sure seems like the server that is losing says this a lot…

Well ya, they have to protect their ego somehow.

If I really cared about the points, I’d just turn around and list off every consecutive week for months where we dumpstered Borlis Pass again and again and again. I’m not interested in going through the motions of the inane posturing you people do. Servers gain and lose population in general and at different times of day. If you want to spout off garbage while following a brainless nightcapping zerg and pretend that it makes you skillful players, be my guest. I care only about the good fights I have out in the field.

KStudios.2850:

The moral here? Maybe we need to trade in our siege prints for really HUGE chair prints to scale those walls.

Maybe like those ladders you see the orcs using in Lord of the Rings.

nothing.7941:

Sil, for future reference b/c we will be matched up again, keep an eye out for these for sure (there are more): Krew, DR, and LOST. Good luck at re-set all! No matter what is said here, imo this is the most competitive an enjoyable match for us in months.

Oh goody, more BP. I just saw a group tonight which absolutely refused to fight me with anything less than a 5:1 ratio after they took our bay. I see that sort of thing and it makes me get burnt out on a matchup…

Anyway, reset is really the true show of a server’s ability I think. I’m not sure how BP can consider nightly PvDoor with a huge golem-driven zerg to be competitive, unless you were talking about the smaller groups you fought. Honestly it feels like Ehmry has been lacking in this area also which has made me consider switching servers altogether.

KStudios.2850:

all 4’11" of me. Rofl.

I feel six feet tall!

Amins.3710:

Wow, you guys really didn’t realize it.

I actually feel kind of bad for you guys now.

I’m sorry.

We both you you don’t feel bad for them. ^_~

wwfam.2495:

Farout.8207:

It sure seems like the server that is losing says this a lot…

I’m starting to notice this too

The point score is ultimately meaningless to me – it’s simply a PvDoor at night and biggest zerg during the day. While I’m not in [GF], I have similar interests as what Brando said. The combat itself is more interesting to me than actual “winning” of WvW because of the reasons I just named above.

nothing.7941:

Sil, there are groups like that on BP too, quite a few actually. There are also groups that get off on defending objectives. From what I’ve seen all 3 servers in this match have both.

That’s good! I haven’t really encountered many though, I don’t think.

Scorci.3250:

all you care about is afk’ing in lion’s arch so idk why you talk big all the time

trash isnt supposed to trash talk

Mmm, I recognize you as a [CHAR], meaning you have nothing worthwhile to say and undoubtedly never will.

Needs to throw Kill Shots in a 180 arc on each swing also.

I wasn’t even in whatever group you’re trying to thump your chest about, just confirming that there are groups on Ehmry who just roam and fight. I could personally care less about most of the objectives.

wwfam.2495:

For sure that was your intention, we believe you. Nice try at saving face.

Amazingly, some people on Ehrmy care more about the fighting itself than eating burgers in a tower next to their precious ACs.

Before I actually got a good chance to listen to female sylvari, I used to think they said, “Less violence, more violence.” I assumed they were all just crazy.

Pandeh.5248:

Not quite on topic, but I fought this NPC in a duel in a low level zone.

I killed him and he dealt ZERO damage to me and he said “Let’s call that a draw”.

I said in chat “Yea, right” and a guy next to me said “lol”.

Was a pretty funny moment:P

I remember killing a hylek somewhere in Caledon. I took it out in one momentous hit before it could even respond; it said, “I thought I was winning…”

Evilzara.6378:

I’m in [CHAR].

Ah. I’ll just dump my expectations in the toilet then.

Kronus.6048:

0 effort?lol you should come here, hf getting pulled by champs and dealt 7-8k dps per second , we will see how fast you scream zero effort.

I soloed every one of these champs for fun well before the zerging began. I’m not sure how you’re managing to die to them in such a huge zerg. Even the temple bosses aren’t really hard, though they have some mechanics which are more interesting than the ones in the Gauntlet (Lyssa’s daze thing is cool).

Evilzara.6378:

you’re so good plz teach me how to play.

I’m not sure why, but I expected better than this from you.

Rhaps.8540:

I think you’re forgetting about the Bardiche, a real 15th c. Russian weapon with a huge kitten blade. Bring on the huge blades please, in the name of real world historical accuracy! (as that’s very important in a fantasy mmo).

I could see it being done that way, although the bardiche wouldn’t exactly be the ideal choice of melee weapon for most. Seems a bit obscure. But you’re right, it did exist.

I’d honestly rather see something closer to a glaive or poleaxe than one of those for a melee class…or actually making the spear usable on land, considering its very prominent existence in almost every culture’s history. I may be a bit biased though. Having handled and sparred with the poleaxe before, it’s a magnificent weapon and I’d love to see it pop up in something like GW2.

What blows me away are the players who name their characters like llIIIlllIll and run multiple mesmer players just to disorient people. Like, are you that bad that you need such a petty advantage? lol

Human!

Message Body length must at least be 15.

Ugh, thieves. There’s such a thing as too much.

munkiman.3068:

Thieves and D/D Eles have far better combat mobility, period.

Pft, don’t “period” me. I’ve seen and used more than enough staff 2 spamming, blinking, pseudo-mobility via maneuvering in stealth, and clone position swapping with sword to know that mesmers aren’t hurting for getting around in combat. Hell I’ve even seen some use a portal. It doesn’t need to be directly comparable to every other class, just enough for the class to function properly.

I do think that the focus swiftness needs to stack though. That it doesn’t work properly is just weird.

I’m actually really surprised there haven’t been more eastern styled weapons and armor in the game. Done right, they could probably look really good.

Dubblebass.8519:

Sil.4560:

I’d like to see halberds as a type of weapon. I don’t know what a “greataxe” is suppose to be. Is that like some sort of silly, cartoon-large axe or something?

Seriously? It is a two handed axe.

Are we talking about a two handed axe that likely evolved into the popular 15th c. poleaxe/halberd I mentioned? I Google “greataxe” and I keep getting images of these fantasy weapons where the blade is huge… <_>

Champion farming needs to die. When I look into a guild roster and see 90% of the members in Frostgorge Sound because they’re zerging around killing champs with zero effort for ultra easy gold, something is wrong and this game’s economy is going down the toilet.

I’ve been running a condition warrior in WvW. Sword/Sword and either Longbow or Greatsword, depending on where I’m akittens effectiveness drops the more people there are unless you pick and choose priority targets, but I’ve made it more for individual fights anyway. You’re still susceptible to high burst like most anything else, but having stability from Last Stand and Dolo Signet pretty much wrecks any stun you can’t just dodge or block.

I think a lot of it is just being familiar with warrior and how most of them play, predicting their movements, along with just watching for animations. Warriors are usually an interesting fight but thousands of hours playing it hasn’t really made me fear them. Aegis, blind, and stability should let you counter the stuns in this build pretty well if you can time it right. And of course stun breaks.

But a smile on the face isn’t enough. Warriors should be laughing with the crazed joy of an axe murderer while they burst people down. Such is what is reserved for our privileged melee sister class which weakly prays to the gods to achieve what our magnificent warrior bodies can do after an intensely trained life of blood, sweat, and the manliest of tears.

But nah, I don’t really run GS/M+S build. I’ve actually killed that build multiple times on my own WvW warrior. It’s good that a class like guardian has trouble with it though, rather than being able to literally facetank yet another class.

I’d like to see halberds as a type of weapon. I don’t know what a “greataxe” is suppose to be. Is that like some sort of silly, cartoon-large axe or something?

I’m sorry, but mesmers do not need a 25% speed boost. Holy kitten, they have some of the best in-combat mobility in the game, why the hell would they need a perpetual speed boost on top of it? Oh, right, people can’t stand the idea of the warrior class having some sort of good trait that everyone else can’t do better.

KStudios.2850:

Apparently, high rank a good fighter does not always make.

Oh god no. Some of the most terrible players I’ve fought have been higher rank than myself. I had some like Bronze Invader the other day Heartseeker me repeatedly while I was at full health, right in my warrior’s face. I’ve seen people do this before, but it’s still one of the most hilarious things to look at even so. You can really tell who has just hopped on board the karma train.

Also, and not in any way related to the previous topic. Would the esteemed Choco or any other of our myriad of amazing mes players be willing to show me some of the good hidey holes around WvW? My next project is my mezzums. =3

I’ve actually found some hilariously good hiding spots on my warrior while inside of keeps like Hills and whatnot. If they don’t find me I’m actually able to flip it myself if I’m all the way on inner. XD

Honestly if anything is patched, it should be the sigil. Whether it no longer rounds up to the next full second or it is intentionally changed to add +1s of stun. At least this way people will shut up about it.

Tsezar.6950:

i dont get all your crying… ofc its gamebreaking but anet would never implement such things like changing client side information to make everything a human.. if they would do it then they can implement race change and that tehy wont do as they said.. best way to fix this problem: stop qq get over your lazyness and make an asura.. takes 40h of gameplay or 3h if crafting and in spvp its for free!

I hate this mentality. It’s completely unimaginative and exactly something I see as a widespread problem in modern gamers. Rather than think of solutions for balance patches – something Anet does every couple of weeks anyway, you do these bizarre mental gymnastics to try to rationalize to everyone why they should just jump on the same cheesy bandwagon as some idiotic minority who would rather exploit a flaw in the game than learn to play or make suggestions for actual balance.

The solution to “it’s overly difficult to make out certain animations on a certain class” is not for everyone to play that class. You accuse everyone of crying but at least they’re thinking. If everyone played the same kitten race, the overall skill ceiling of this game would drop because players would no longer be reacting to specific tells, because they can’t.

It just boggles me how some people, no matter what they’re presented with, will always attribute fault to the person rather than the situation. Maybe you personally lack the skill to respond to startup animations when fighting other players, but those of us actually able to are giving suggestions for balance and think that either enlarging the player models or replacing them with standardized ones might be a good thing to make as a client side option.

Omnomnivore. Don’t need other titles.

Frosch.7809:

Many people do not want to fight 1 vs 1, if you can’t accept it then that’s entirely your problem. Calling it “idiotic” does not get you any more duels. Your way of defining the Game is not everyone’s, actually the roamers looking for 1 vs 1 are a minority in WvW. Go to a fight club maybe? But you have to stick to certain rules there, oh my…

We never implied it would get us any more duels. We’re simply expressing an opinion of our enemies’ cowardice. XD

Josh XT.6053:

Definitely agree. I run into uneven fights and honestly, I don’t even care if I die lol. Just a waypoint away from giving it another chance. No one ever got better by running away from fights or hiding from them.

I did this earlier today just for fun. It took seven YB players to actually take me down and I almost had two of them dead. I didn’t learn a lot because it’s just lolnumbers but I did find it incredibly amusing.

Dan.2940:

I honestly don’t understand why people bother playing the game if they aren’t going to PLAY THE GAME. If you’re in WvW, you obviously enjoy PvP so why are you making the NPC’s do the work for you? Or why wait until you outnumber the enemy to attack? If you don’t enjoy using SKILL to beat players, go back to PvE where you can gang up with your group and auto attack a mob to death.

Heh, this is pretty much why it boggles me. I understand group tactics and whatnot, but people just seem to want free loot and the ability to brag about non-accomplishments more than they want to enjoy a good fight or something…

Kronyx.2570:

Its funny how many of the people complaining on players running away from duels are Mesmers and Thieves. Whenever I see a thief who has not attacked me yet, I don’t even bother. Why? Because when I do kick their kitten down 5% hp they run away.

I main warrior.