Guild Wars 2

Yeah, just have fun being at a distinct disadvantage, statistically. You don’t have to be on equal footing as other players! Hurr hurr hurr.

With the sort of condition meta as it is now and the ridiculous duration you can achieve with food/runes/traits, I wouldn’t be surprised if in the future we see a mechanic which reduces condition damage itself outside of the very limited cleanses that a lot of classes get.

oZii.2864:

You would rather argue off topic and defend yourself personally then about your statement that it’s imbalanced and a necro blows every cd and fears to win and that you need heavy cc.

There’s nothing to argue. The only thing you posted in response was a contrary opinion and that you think a rock/paper/scissors design is good while I find it to be poor design, along with some ways you personally think that you should fight a necro (none of which actually address the glaring imbalance). No actual points were made, just “it’s okay that the game is like this”, completely disregarding the idea that design of this sort minimizes the need for individual skill and instead uses R/P/S as a crutch against certain opponents.

I also find it hilarious that your post implies there is already adequate balance when we receive fixes every month to address the fact that this is far from true.

And yes, I’m going to respond in an unfriendly way when you lead your post with “When did you get a necro? Is the warrior forum boring right now?” You want to snark me, don’t expect a warm reply.

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

If “Rock-paper-scissors” balancing is so bad, then why does it exist (and get used) everywhere?

If racism is so bad, then why does it exist (and get used) everywhere? Your logic is crap. Seriously, if you can’t come up with anything better than “if it is so, it must be good” – and can’t understand why such a statement is logically unsound – don’t even bother replying to me further.

It’s because it works. It’s rarely as simple as “rock-paper-scissors”, but it’s the same thought process. If, for example, Rock wasn’t beaten by paper, then what would everyone choose? That is the definition of OP.

It only works in a very simplistic and unimaginative way. Hammering a nail with my face also “works” but it doesn’t make it the most amazing means of accomplishing what I need. The trinity in MMOs also “works” but it’s stale as all hell and about as unimaginative as R/P/S.

A game with so many variables could easily have a much more complex interaction of builds but instead they choose this lazy approach by refusing to add only a fraction of the amount of skills and traits (and so build diversity) necessary. From what I understand, GW1 craps all over this game in terms of that and this game was supposed to be an improvement on that system.

Condi necros are very strong against condition builds of other classes to the point of being almost unbeatable. However, they are also extremely vulnerable to CC. Fresh Air eles are unmatched for burst ability, but if they don’t kill their target (as usually is the case with bunkers), they are screwed. A CC Warrior will smack around a condi necro easily, but they will have a difficult time against a Rampage as One ranger.

So instead of giving each class and build varying tools to ensure that every opponent that every player faces has to rely more on personal skill for victory, they opt to make it more build dependent. I’ve run into certain builds on my warrior that literally have trouble even hurting me. That’s just silly and brings me no satisfaction in a fight. This is my complaint on the matter. I prefer a deeper mental combat system which emphasizes personal skill more over the same garbage we’ve been seeing for years but it seems GW2’s playerbase ultimately doesn’t like change.

3,328h over 368 days
911 deaths
0.27 ratio

Please tell me they have a ranger bear train.

oZii.2864:

When did you get a necro? Is the warrior forum boring right now?

According to /age, my necro is 318 days old. If you were trying to mock me on that front, perhaps you might rethink that.

You run condi warrior now anyway at least the was last that I knew you ran. Your never going to beat a necro. A necro should very rarely lose to a condition build if they have a off hand dagger and a staff just because of a transfer.

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Yes paper tell me more about how scissors is op and faceroll. cough stability/guardian/war/ranger/ele are rock

Rock/paper/scissors is a poor game balancing strategy with so many possible variables. Balance in a game promoting skill above all else would see as many methods for varying builds defeating one another as is possible. Of course, as we know, build diversity in this game is a joke and what I just mentioned would require some actual thought and effort which doesn’t seem to be top priority for this game’s continued content.

Andele, your post utterly lacked in substance but I felt I should respond at least once since you made a reply to me. If your next post is more of the same, don’t bother.

Anyway, “your (sic) never going to beat a necro” is in direct contradiction with:

You can win every fight with every build.

I think that basically dismantles whatever snarky argument you’re attempting to make at me. You can’t even remain consistent within a single post, why should I waste my time?

Also, let it be known:

I know you like sword and warhorn but it’s just 2 exposed against a necro and you waste dps time using the warhorn skills to wipe condi’s you could always jump in force the necro to deplete its Death shroud the reengage on your own terms which is a necro with not alot of LF.

You apparently don’t know how I play at all if you think I’ve been wearing a warhorn anytime recently. I disengage and re-engage at will and none of that requires a warhorn. I don’t need to fight unimaginative game balance directly when I can just lure the player to an inescapable death and /laugh at the fact that they were too stupid not to see it. Are you quite finished or are you going to continue prattling on about how you think I play?

That’s assuming you’re using a warrior with a ton of CC, anyway. Against anything else it’s just lolconditionspam. Blow every cooldown and Fear to win; totally brainless “strategy” which can be repeated over and over in a very short amount of time. They need to tone back down the condition stacking; after that last big patch it’s just way too much to be balanced. If they must do it, at least raise the skill ceiling higher than this button mashing BS we have now.

SHAKA ZULU.3128:

You’re making this too complicated. We go to SoS BL because there are good fights there this week. That is all. DNW PPT or capping anything if it gives us no leverage to fight. Ebay and SoS have been engaging us for some good brawls, that’s all we are seeing.

That’s good to see, actually. I’d much rather fight servers who are in it for the fun of the battles instead of the meaningless PPT.

Grots.4726:

They should ditch the minstrel and replace it with hobo-tron.

Replace all minis and ranger pets with Hobo-Tron also please. Golem-down-on-its-luck.

Yeah Kaineng, how dare you double team Sea of Zerg? They’re banking on you helping to double team Ehmry! Because apparently the huge nightcap zerg rush just isn’t enough each night.

Merendel.7128:

yep you’ve already more than proved that dual wielding ego is the deadliest weapon in your arsenal.

Tell that to the many SoS I’ve dumpstered this past week.

Oh boy, I just love time gated garbage. More ways to keep people slooowly grinding away – every single day, wouldn’t want you not to log in – because they can’t be kitten to actually add endgame content for us to occupy our time with instead. I have 3,321h 45m over the last year and this game just keeps going further and further down the toilet.

Anyone using stealth has zero room to complain, at all. Laugh at them for relying on stealth and tell them to learn how to actually play without their pathetic invisibility.

I never feel bad about creating distance to gain an advantage. They can’t keep up? Tough kitten – that’s what they trade for their other class advantages. LoS? That’s what they get for using ranged attacks. If they are stupid enough to continue fighting on your terrain, let them cry at “obstructed” over and over.

You’re right though, we don’t have anything to prove to SoS. I know I’ve definitely seen enough this week to know that, rofl

I’ve found two keys in the last two days. What’s more, the last one I used gave me a claim ticket. I was blown away.

Downed state is fine in PvE, I guess. But I absolutely hate it in competitive play. Removing it from WvW would the first, best step in making it less of a brainless zerg fest. The mechanic as it is favors the side with more numbers, which already has an advantage. There’s nothing more irritating than taking down bad after bad in a group of people only to have their allies rally them time and time again.

Le Rooster.8715:

Sil.4560:

Jinks.2057:

Im pretty sure my K/D ratio against SoS is like 90:1 overall…and im low balling that

Hilariously, that’s not an exaggeration. I think I actually did that just last night.

Cool story bro, tell it with dragons next time.

Next time I’ll go fight Claw of Jormag after then.

Jinks.2057:

Im pretty sure my K/D ratio against SoS is like 90:1 overall…and im low balling that

Hilariously, that’s not an exaggeration. I think I actually did that just last night.

I don’t want to hear anyone say that SoS doesn’t have equal numbers. I’m in EB BL right now and a huge zergtrain is just running around capping things. We have maybe ten people on the map. Zerg and PvDoor, zerg and PvDoor. Yet I haven’t found one person who is individually talented all night.

The best part about Impale is that it applies the condition at different times, so either way it’s going to do some damage.

Staying still just means they’re bleeding more anyway. =)

Ljiona.9142:

While it is a problem for you, it is very easy for someone to beat a condition warrior. Some classes that come to mind are necro, engineer, certain mezmers, and sceptre/focus elementalist.

I don’t have problems with any of these when running condition.

kaian.2615:

Oh ya I remember u guys sitting on hills for hours strait, we would go there with 10 ppl and suddenly there would be AC’kittenting us from all over the place, so we just moved on. If EBay’s definition of fun is just to sit on AC’s for hours on end, I am glad I am on SOS. At least Kain came out to fight when we tried hitting bay, props to CNB for always coming to the open field.

I came out to fight when I wanted to re-flip the camps or to murder people who tried to kill our dolys. I was also the person on the treb who kept knocking down the ones you guys placed by the NE camp. =)

I didn’t have time to sit on an AC. With only a few people, we had our hands full running all over to make sure the entire right side of the map stayed red, haha.

I always just used Kick in WvW to knock hapless players off of cliffs, afterwards screaming, “SPARTA!”

elkirin.8534:

Please focus on the good fights, defences and sieges we have had this week.

Jinks will enjoy this one as well.

Ehmry in SoS BL last night. We held their Hills for hours with right around five people (almost constantly outmanned) and almost had the place fully fortified by the time their ridiculously large zerg came around

In fact, after no less than a dozen failed attempts at ramming, catapulting, and trebbing Hills, the final fight was something like 10v50+ after the keep was fully starved of supply and they knocked down the wall from NE camp’s cliffside with not one but three trebuchets after their entire zerg came to tear down the siege along the wall. And do you know how SoS was forced to take down the inner gates? Slow, tedious PvDoor…against TWO doors at once because they couldn’t face all ten of us in the same place without getting pushed back to the walls.

So Jinks is right: The one and only reason they got their Hills back – and succeed as a server against NA ones – is because of overwhelming numbers while the enemy is sleeping. I had a blast holding Hills the other night; to all of the chest thumpers pointing at the actual score, I lol’d. Fun fights, great night overall, and kitten did I see just what I needed to see. XD

playandchill.3908:

1 for PVP

PvP has no place in the gear I acquire for PvE. They are entirely separate and I have absolutely zero interest in seeing them crossed.

Galen Grey.4709:

People hype up and crowd… interesting combination… hype implies the interest is virtual. IE people think it will be great but instead it turns out not to be the case. In turn that would imply that once it hits it should be a desert not uber crowded like these events are. Its not hype, its that many people like different things then us who might not be into farming.

Also this game was always themepark

and more also that they’re selling useless things for gems is a good think, what do you want things that you cant play the game without? They handling the gem shop perfectly, things that people desire but that are unneeded. its how it should be.

Does your post have a point? Hype is “excessive publicity and the ensuing commotion”. So yes, this crap is all hyped up, people crowd around expecting something awesome, and ultimately it’s not as great as it could have been for whatever reason, yet they flock to the next thing to restart the cycle all over again. That’s exactly what their strategy here is banking on, and while it’s effective for making them money, it’s poor at actually providing great, lasting content.

I really don’t care about your opinion on how “it should be” regarding the underwhelming gem store either; not once did I say I want vertical progression items to be added. You want to dissect my posts? Do a better kittening job next time. And no, I’m not a brainless champion farmer.

Astralporing.1957:

As fast and easy as possible. I do not enjoy regearing.

I feel the same, honestly. The fun part of this game for me isn’t doing the annoying treadmill to acquire every little piece of new gear, it’s enjoying endgame with that gear.

Ashen.2907:

You are mistaken. Posting on a public forum is actually, essentially, a request that some self-important internet personality come in and offer their crap opinion.

Ha, in that case, this is me dismissing everything they say as just that. When people can come in without making asinine assumptions about me, perhaps I’ll be more inclined to actually think of them as worth my time.

EDIT: Anyway, I agree that the gem store is necessary for the game as they’ve set it up. I do wish it had more to offer, however!

Holy necro.

Message Body length must at least be 15.

Why should I care how other people finish? Most of the puzzles are ruined by a poor camera and misleading surfaces and similar gimmicks anyway; to me it’s fine that they can be “solved” by a player trick.

“Learn?” Players are too busy whining about how mechanics – which have been the same since the start of the game – are OP to learn.

lol, since when do the gem store profits go to improve GW2 and not one of NC Soft’s other crappy MMOs?

I suspect nothing to compensate. People who don’t know how to use stun breaks and stability or dodge hammer’s very obvious animations aren’t exactly the type to put a lot of thought into this sort of thing.

Jinks.2057:

Meh.

More PvD

Hoping not but I guess I’ll be on late night to find out. >_>

A dev confirmed in another thread that it was incorrect wording in the patch notes. It’s working properly.

Free stuff because other people do things on the forums? Works for me.

I was actually just curious as to whether there were plans to give a set out to those of us who have already upgraded in the past, since they’ve retroactively awarded items before for things. Free, of course, beats both $10 and $20.

VOLKON.1290:

Sure they are. That’s the thing most people don’t realize. They’re temporary, and they’re clutter. Look at WoW for example. Burning Crusade. Accept it or not, that was entirely temporary content once Lich King came out. But to make things worse it stuck around as clutter you’re forced to pass through as you race to level up. But the dungeons, the raids for BC… they stand abandoned, empty, their temporary moments of glory long lost and forgotten.

Expansions are temporary when the next one comes along and takes the players somewhere else.

They’re still there though. The content is still there. It doesn’t just vanish in two weeks. Stop trying to do these ridiculous mental gymnastics for the sake of being contrary. If you want to insult me by clumping me in with “most people”, at least come up with a concrete argument that doesn’t just play off of some whimsical garbage about “temporary moments of glory”.

It is undeniable fact that most content coming from actual expansions remains after the expansion is released, which is my entire point. This Living Story stuff, for the most part, does not remain. I would rather have content that I am actually able to go back and do than it being literally temporary, especially if they’re going to lace it with achievement points which are in turn directly tied to rewards.

The problem is that expansions aren’t kittening temporary.

I already have the Digital Deluxe upgrade…I’m guessing I don’t get the Legacy armor?

This is the part where we hope to god it’s not just more temporary crap.

If anything, this video proves that warrior needs to be buffed to deal with absurd gimmicks like evade spam.

Well remember “balance” to most non-warriors I’ve seen means “warrior is a free kill”.

This is basically a “theme park game” at this point. People hype up and crowd around the latest event and grind it to death until the next big thing is released, then they flock over to that. Thanks to the temporary content, apparently this – along with blowing money on gems for useless items – is how Anet would like us to play.

Reason being, listing expensive items for 1c under a seller needs to die off. If someone wants to undermine someone else’s sale by virtue of it being impossible not to buy theirs first, they should be forced to do it by a minimum percentage so that there is actually a drawback to this decision.

I’d also expect that this could become a thing for buy offers, although at least there is no fee to place an offer.

EDIT: The idea is that players do not continue to undercut forever because it is no longer profitable.

lmao, how is condition warrior broken? It’s called condition removal.

Grrr, it still makes me mad about that thief near the start. You totally school him and his noob class but he gets a free escape.

I have to admit, my condition warrior eats mesmers in WvW.

And you haven’t even met me in-game yet!

I like Scarlet. She’s crazy in a funny way. xD