Guild Wars 2

Everyone on the “GvG” “leader boards” above rank 20 has a 100% loss ratio for NA and above 52 for EU. It seems more like a pyramid scheme to me lol.

lol you "GvG"ers are too much you can’t see it or explain it, but its there… skill.

I am on blackgate and when I think back to our rise It was epic, but it was also a drag. Trying our hardest sometimes failing, and sometimes winning I imagine its what all severs apart from blackgate feel now.

I love wvw and I am sure everyone else does as well, but allot of dread comes with the current system; It shows just how fantastic of a job you guys did creating a war exp. but at the top there really are not any great victories because for the most part our enemies have been stomped into oblivion and seem to degrade each week.

I honestly think that It might be better if we went back to 24 hour match ups to kill the black dog of war in this game.

We could do the one week match ups once a month, once every 3 months, or maybe a big tournament once a year. Something that will make it an event where everyone on all servers does there best and puts as much effort as they can in that week or those few weeks. Right now we all just go through the motions the first half of the week and are coasting the last half. It’s only a matter of time before we go hollow.

“War is hell, but that’s not the half of it, because war is also mystery and terror and adventure and courage and discovery and holiness and pity and despair and longing and love. War is nasty; war is fun. War is thrilling; war is drudgery. War makes you a man; war makes you dead.” Tim O’Brien, The Things They Carried

At the start of the game we had two gigantic gaming teams AA and TA that could not field there players. Something that prolly should have been stopped right then by saying tough kitten. At that time though it was 24 hour matches and allot lighter all about experimentation.

The stability/lag problems we run into are because we asked anet to raise the wvw player limit for each map and they did. Now what we have is a problem where if they lower the limit to stable numbers they are screwing our larger communities.

So are we being trolled? Yep we did a dam good job of it… especially milky.

but this is really just a guess.

Really I don’t see why they even added the icd to torment 6/6 it is 20s and does like no dmg.

Aeros your in denial it’s ok to not be as skilled as others, but you guys on bp already know that what am I saying.

If your talking to a carpenter do you say you merely have a hammer

and when you are talking to a plumber do you say you merely have a butt crack.

no you don’t that’s why we merely have a better barometer on your skill level…. l…t…p

Good stuff! wish they would have made the torment on heal higher dmg and shorter duration though.

Some of the guilds that “GvG” do allot for their servers but that doesn’t matter those guilds would have their own interests at heart. In the instance the T1 match up it was a Pve guild.

And bro why would you talk about someones guild when you don’t know what guild it is? you got beef lol.. are you in T1? aww to bad we could have "GvG"ed it out lol.

There was just a patch anyone know what the change was??

Orr is still active its where everyone was farming before the event.

Moon.6371:

Basically the message is: ignore PvP in WvW, do PvE and Karmatrain all day long (champion loot, hurray)!

I`m disgusted and really, really disappointed regarding the recent changes…

If we are right about dmg being the change then you get just as much loot pvping and less for zerg v zerg so in theory it is a change many of us have asked for and should reduce zerg play.

@ yoko

Basically there are following main reasons:
Guilds having more than one GvG for a week (lucky kittens)

A. 48 hours is a long time man and with the empty maps you would have on the 48 hours before reset you could organize more than one fight at one time or even tri matches.

Guilds that have far less brawls than they would like so they agree on any reasonable time their opponent proposes, who in turn may be from #1
IRL stuff, raid leaders or key players may not be able to play before reset
TZ differences.

A. in 48 hours you go through each tz 2x and if someone has rl stuff you know that sucks, but at least your not screwing anyone else

Some guilds do not GvG before reset because either they want to be fresh and hungry for reset push, or it’s just the case that GvG is open-ended in therms of time and although most of them take about a hour, many things can happen that would push it further, and no one wants to have busted GvG because of server restart.

A. When i said before reset I ment the 48 before at this point the winner is most likely already decided.

WvW is a venue for it but it has primary objectives that are fought very hard for early in the week. If you go into wvw right now its a ghost town for the most part and that is why I suggested the times I did.

Some of you guys talk about Im ignorant because I call “GvG” a micro community. Lets take the US for instance there are over 5 million copies sold lets say the US makes up 1/4 (its likely much larger) and there are 71 teams on your guys ranking site 71×20= 1420 of 1.3 million

If there’s a queue on the map, the GvG group won’t fit and will go elsewhere and your argument is invalid. (All maps could only be queued in T1 anyway, right?)
If there’s not a queue on the map then they’re not ‘taking spots’ and your argument is invalid.

I don’t know how your guys team runs on other servers, but ours for instance has reactive teams with only scouts or small guilds on most maps apart from like reset and sometimes na prime time when the ques are full. (Ut oh now im giving away trade secrets lol) If someone needs help and you and your spectators are taking up spots well they are just sol.

Lol I will give you your answer yes it was intended because of the 100% drop rate of champ bags. Like many people here I have not noticed any change it is not something that really even needs any kind of answer if you are having trouble getting loot play better. So your bunker you do no dmg but you seldom die…. good you don’t need loot you don’t have repair bills.

Since everyone is subject to the same system does it really matter those two servers get another week to learn the enemies tactics and hopefully excel before they drop rating.

Lol that’s not really what I meant. I was thinking if they opened specific wvw server we could move. The top servers wvwers would mostly stay the same because they preform well and this power house server taking only wvwers from the lower teirs would make a slow rise to number 1. Mostly just me bsing about how to even the matches up. With server specification if you were on a pve server you would not expect to do well and if you were on a wvw server you would.

Another problem is supply plain and simple you can’t employ a strategy where a small number of players is going to take something cause it takes a half hour to run supply. If they could figure out a way to make small groups able to xport more supply and not larger groups it would balance the servers more than ever because it would take the numbers game out of it completely.

Sorelus wrong forum buddy

Maybe it will cause some players other than roamers to go dps that would be a nice change.

It would be fantastic if everyone stacked 6 servers. The real problem here is pvers lets be honest without real server types wvw/spvp/pve/rppve/rpwvw we end up with a spread population and makes focusing hard TC and BG have full server but BG has a much larger wvw player base and so TC will not be able to rise in the ranks unless a server with a higher wvw pop explodes. I am by no means saying that numbers alone = wins but it is a factor and if your servers population capped out it is going to be much harder to advance unless you can get your pvers to wvw.

even more so when you consider A) they lose players and have reduced morale going into next week

Unless your team has no skill then you want to go with 2 necro 3 engi as they have the most op aoe dps in the game.

Someone want to meet me on TC borderlands sentry between bay and garrison for some.

dunnberry.2964:

5 engineers, be unique

lol

You guys underestimate the power of 5 shatter mesmers that is 15 clones going to explode on your butt. Along with any combo of 5 aoe cripple zerkers or 5 signet stuns and it only takes 6 clones aoe to drop someone and as soon as the first 15 are down 15 more are up.

15s should be plenty of time since most people have already chosen there position before they even get into a match position call/adjustment and go. If they are hot join well there are just going to zerg anyway. We all understand that you like to rage a bads we do too, but it is counter productive. The hotjoin/bad players will always be stuck in the bottom 30% so the point of education is moot because if your that low in the rankings your in no place to instruct anyone. Now the reason we wanted solo join was to even the playing field by taking the meta aspect out of it so by using ts your exploiting the system we asked for.

Looooooooooooooooooooooooooool

You should put your server info so we can understand where you are coming from.

There is allot more than zergs in t1 there are scouts all around and a sentry in every tower/keep. Small scale players play a huge roll as well through yaking/greifing/and cutting off reinforcements. One or two of our guilds runs with 50 to 80 players and the other forces are groups of 10-30 but no matter the size they communicate with one another and form strategy. This teamwork is often beyond the foot soldiers understanding. If you server has a teamspeak ask someone for the info so you can listen in and increase said understanding.

now 2 rune posts

The old loot system was almost exactly what you mention. I mostly small group stuff and I have not noticed any change either apart from the champ loot bags when I jump in with a group for a cap.

They should just make the idle time 15s then it would be pretty hard to get in vent in time or they could lock chat until there is only 15s till start.

I think having some use it and some not defeats the reason to have solo que I mean we want everyone on the same level meta free.

I use mostly p/d second set is d/p but it is only used when im out of stealth and in a bad spot. Using celestial gear and running runes of torment I could go zerk insta gib d/p or d/d but I like to play with my prey.

On a side note I think the runes of torment 45% torment dur is bugged. The tool tip doesn’t update for one and the increase seems lower than it should be with givers weps.

I don’t think there is anything wrong with the game pve/wvw anyway there is some balance problems in spvp. Here on blackgate everything is rocking everything runs like clockwork. My guess is its your guild or server sucks If you are not having a good time xfer to a high pop server where you can find fights of some what even numbers 24/7 no matter what numbers you run with.

All shatter mesmers your welcomer lool

Anet can’t patch in skill or Intelligence

I know it’s hard to believe reading these forums that any of these people could be dumb or bad.

Just go to one of the top 4 eu or us servers trust me its better to have to many than to few players to play with or against. I have been in wvw all day and have seen one zerg and took bay with them. They are easy to avoid for the most part and there are a ton of 2-5 men groups running around everywhere. I have never been in an mmo where go to a low pop server was good advice.

Um…….lol……ok

“Silentflute is not worthy of 1st generation gaming culture”

What an odd thing to say hopefully your an awkward kid and not an awkward adult.

I know you typed this but do you even know what this means lol? I would bet no if you were apart of said culture I don’t think you would be here crying like a baby about the amazingly advanced game we have here…. Was it suppose to be an insult?

…..did…. did he really just respond to this….. sigh that is it no more forums for me.
I am going to drag my knuckles all the way home and sit in a dim room.

You have a private message lol.

I don’t think you will be able to 1vx anyone with a bunk ranger. You could prolly win some 1v1s but short range and slow dmg is a hard sell for multiple enemies, but it is wvw so you never know. I can take our groups of like 2 and 3 with my DD ranger.

They should buff runes of torment the heal give a 20s torment that does no dmg and only gives like 2s durration to normal skills what crap.

Yea sor needs their teamate

Convenant.7092:

Thesilentflute.8761:

Jesus it is hard to deal with people with no substance that only respond with snarky comments. Do you guys ever wonder why things don’t get changed its because you do not have the ability to express ideas…. or have no idea…zzz.

Dunnburry I am sry I don’t know what wvw is like on BP you may be right.

The idea here is pretty clear, and has been expressed, but ignored, thousands of times. People like you are the reason nothing changes; you HAVE no opinion. You’re just an occasional, casual player; that may not be the case of everyone here.

So your idea is they have more we want more… thats not what I described at all. Idk what you consider a casual player, but I have 3000 hours in the game mostly spent in wvw and am ranked like 476th?? I think in wins in spvp so I would love to see a hardcore player.

ThaOwner.7560:

i dunno why anet hasent figured out that ppl play wvw as THE endgame of guild wars 2. if wvw stays in its current state or barely changes by the time teso or wildstar comes out, i see no reason to come back to this game

It is hard to find a reason to come back to a game you didn’t leave.

Methods.4023:

Lol they did do something about gvg they nerfed the loot drop in wvw this is there fix ….

I know. I mentioned it in a earlier post.

skinnyb.5920:

Thesilentflute.8761:

Lol GJ yaro god fobid anyone have a relevant discussion on the forums.

This thread is not a discussion. This thread is a dumping ground for all of your ignorant opinions with everyone else telling you why you’re being selfish.

Right I am being selfish because 20 people want to sabotage the rest of the servers effort.. and the everyone your talking about are mostly "GvG"ers because the rest of the community either stays off the forums because of the poison or passes over the thread cause “GvG” is already considered a joke and a inconvenience. God It is a good thing you guys refuse to play nice if you did more people might actually do it.

Lol GJ yaro god fobid anyone have a relevant discussion on the forums.

I didn’t flame anyone only the people that “GvG” pay attention to it and know who was in the matches I referenced. As you know it isn’t really an issue on our server as most of our guilds wvw. This does however effect wvw negatively as a whole effecting both server mobility and player morale. I have a hard time understanding the issue with making sure that you don’t cause anyone else problems.
Arranging GvGs so they do not disrupt other play styles? Well duh, of course we are all for it.
If this were the case I would have never made a thread and saying it is an isolated issue is pretty absurd; saying that these are planned around there servers wvw communities is even more absurd.
Are you actually telling us that you yourself ask the guilds on watch if you can and if a commander say’s no you don’t…. you turn off your stream.. cancel your plans.. and waste your prep time…. can you guys smell that it’s bullkitten.

Jesus it is hard to deal with people with no substance that only respond with snarky comments. Do you guys ever wonder why things don’t get changed its because you do not have the ability to express ideas…. or have no idea…zzz.

Dunnburry I am sry I don’t know what wvw is like on BP you may be right.

Also says the guy….. wait a second….

Allot of your reasons at the top shouldn’t apply in a 48 hour period.

I and others have put forth options to solve a problem your micro community has created with little to no cooperation from said community. What I am doing is trying to work through a problem here where both parties will be satisfied.

It is about consideration for other players, but I also think the actual game mode that was made for us should supersede one a very small group of players created.

On a personal lv I do think it is just kill trading but with the loot nerf it is no longer an issue. Beyond that I still think it’s skill less play and we will see if it lasts through the nerf. but lets focus on working on a way that we can both play without issue.

Dude if you had actually gone there you would know its not that good a karma train will out loot there bosses no problem its a long timer also its boring. As far as there new content goes all it did is move them from farming in orr to farming in the human city. They get more gold true, but we have fun and that is what we are all here for and its priceless. If you want more gold go pve no one is saying you can’t I spent a few hours there to get my recipes and was soo happy to be done with it.