Guild Wars 2

Interesting idea but I believe this is what MF is for and it is world wide.

Wondrouswall.7169:

bring back tafu ;_;

I would go for this, new TA Aether path is stupid as hell

Clumsy.6257:

Titanimite.2534:

Clumsy.6257:

Rick.5781:

As for using bows, I didnt play a ranger to use a sword, thats why I have a warrior. I play my ranger to stay at range, because you know, thats what I find fun.

Then you better be prepared to get kicked out of any and all parties/guilds that tend to be able to do dungeons/fractals with ease.

^ exactly, I would kick you just for having a bow equipped or a bear out or even if you didn’t have frost spirit or spotter as these are the only reasons to bring a ranger over another class.

If you want to get down to the math, then a ranger isn’t worth taking at all. Parties would be much better off just grabbing another elementalist for 2 more fgs. It really comes down to the fact of people liking you.

You are correct, but that is situational. For example, if you don’t have a wall and no teleport FGS damage is less than my auto attack and if you have a boss that reflects heavily like Lupi frost spirit and spotter will ensure the mesmer crits on every hit.

But for fractals your absolutely correct ranger is not worth taking whatsoever much rather have an ele or a engi for vuln.

Benjamin.8237:

Full Glass Longbow Ranger is the glassiest build in the game, you will need to have somewhere to run or hide to. However the damage is amazing, over 1000 range expect 3k autos and rapid fire should hit a hefty 8-18k depending on how glassy you go. Signet of the Hunt 150% proc with maul can hit 12k also.

Wrong wrong wrong, ele is far glassier than ranger. 3k auto on longbow? haha I want to see that nice troll nice troll.

If you want a power ranger build go GS + Sword/* be better damage than you could ever hope for on bow plus you’ve have some nice evades (survivability)

Black Box.9312:

I still run AH with my guardian. Come at me bro.

/kick

Clumsy.6257:

Rick.5781:

As for using bows, I didnt play a ranger to use a sword, thats why I have a warrior. I play my ranger to stay at range, because you know, thats what I find fun.

Then you better be prepared to get kicked out of any and all parties/guilds that tend to be able to do dungeons/fractals with ease.

^ exactly, I would kick you just for having a bow equipped or a bear out or even if you didn’t have frost spirit or spotter as these are the only reasons to bring a ranger over another class.

Everyone knows lightning whip is far greater damage than Warrior auto attack plus its cleave and has massive range. This thread is a joke as well…ele has some of the best damage in the entire game.

blessing nosferatu.3784:

Nope, we are the one helping you to find the way to fun and relaxing dungeons!

I consider fun to be soloing dungeons alone and keeping my stacks and doing it faster than a full group of casuals that will just get me killed. Thanks but no thanks

deSade.9437:

The elitists are the rebellious minority, just sayin’.

Whatever you say, play how you want and take 3 hours to do a fractal. See if I care we’re just trying to help your poor casuals.

Stooperdale.3560:

“I just want content that actually requires theorycrafting in order to be completed efficiently. "

All the existing dungeons do. What’s happened is that the theorycrafting has become common knowledge and shared amongst PUGs. You might not be able to remember the way that CoE was run by PUGs for the first six months after release but I can. CoE was seen as a difficult dungeon because the current tactics were not yet common knowledge.

If you look back at old MMOs like Everquest where raid leaders developed tactics over a series of weeks, well that time wouldn’t be needed at all now. Publicly shared tactics on the internet would instantly make some of those raids absolutely trivial for anyone who can follow a video on social media.

I agree, and this is why FOTM was added if you ask me but they still need something more. This is also why I love fighting Lupi and hope they don’t ever screw with him as its more of a test of skill and punishing should you fail.

Rick.5781:

Im aware that agony is unaffected by vitality, I just wasnt sure if I was dying due to having low vitality, or having low AR. Boss attacks that hit hard tend to also inflict agony damage, so I wasnt sure if it was the agony or the increase in mob damage that was killing me. Levels 20 and below are a joke due to taking no damage from agony. During the aetherblade fractal I dont even really need to worry about avoiding the laser walls due to the damage from one hit being insignificant.

As for using bows, I didnt play a ranger to use a sword, thats why I have a warrior. I play my ranger to stay at range, because you know, thats what I find fun.

My suggestion:
-first, use a glassy build, Brazil has the best build I’ve seen use it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oGtY69tcek

-second, learn to use a sword and melee no one wants to ranging in fotm and pushing the mobs away the mesmer stacked so we could burst them down. I can not stress enough how much this kitten es me off. If I so much as see a ranger with a bow he’s gone. Sides it plays far different from Warrior and bring a ton to your team if you don’t like this playstyle bring a different class into fractals and play your ranger elsewhere.

-third, fractals scale and trash gets stronger vit and toughness will not save you. Learn to use evades (plenty of them in Brazil’s build) and weakness from your Warriors and consumables. Also, don’t hurt yourself by facetanking attacks that will eventually have heavy agony damage you will not make it very far if you do (fotm 40 & 50 anyone?). Learn to jump over the wall n kite around in a circle like everyone else (bow would be fine here)

-fourth, you have a great deal of resources out there at least give it a try to see if you like it before you start QQing because you asked for help and someone told you ranger sucked. Ranger in Brazil’s build especially with GS has insane survivability who knows you may like it.

If you are interested in PvE take a look at a 10/30/0/20/10 or 0/30/0/25/15 build with Sword/Sword or Sword/Focus or Sword/Pistol as weapons and learn to melee and dodge. Mesmer is one of the best surviving classes at melee range.

Once you do that pick a legendary but imo all the current ones suck Whisper weapons for the win!

Seems to me that we clear them way fast than ANet expects because they are just bad players and use crappy builds in their own game that they supposedly know. Seriously who uses P/P and PVT gear? Who uses S/T on Mesmer in PVT gear? and why on earth would you when you can just burn through the mobs and survive by pure skill.

Quickfoot Katana.8642:

but here we are mostly hostile towards the company rather than the players who want to “play how I want”. How long has it been since they posted anything here?

Let’s take a look at the new TA path, it has been suggested countless times to make cinematics skippable and atleast take a look at how skewed dungeon gold rewards are cofp1 = sep2? what?

No answers and no actions. They just dont care.

I agree, they really don’t care at all. They can’t even put patch notes about dungeons in the release notes. There are so many bugs in dungeons and stuff that needs to be fix not to mention the slue of exploits. Plus their constant ignoring of their clients opinions and suggestions these are the reasons why the community is hostile toward them. This is unacceptable and if you did something like this while employed elsewhere you would most likely be let go or you could lose massive amounts of clients and your product would die. Yet we just get more living story stuff that no one gives a kitten about. Complete crap and unacceptable.

Oh we’re making them MORE rewarding they said and a chest to let you pick the skin you want. kittening bullkitten kitten anet

Love it great job! Thank for putting this together I’m sure someone will find it useful

Sanderinoa.8065:

rhodoc.2381:

So one of the hardest bosses of the game is soloable, nice….

Guys! I found a slowpoke! Catch it before it gets away, I’m out of masterballs, and this seems to be the slowest slowpoke yet!

Oh no I’m out of masterballs too guess we’re all too fast and forgot to pick some up! But don’t worry have no fear this slowpoke is so slow he won’t be able to get away!

Nooo their rising up we must crush the rebellion!

Erebus.9276:

Titanimite.2534:

Seems to me lupi did get some changes but honestly I like him as is just wish they would make a second mode (hardmode) for dungeons or new type of group raid (more than 5).

You have to remember, 90% of pugs can barely make it to lupi let alone kill him without ranging.

I can’t range lupi, it’s too hard. Nerf pls.

Should be more like, help I can’t face tank lupi he 1 shots me if I don’t dodge. Guardian is a broken class please make me have 100% invuln uptime!

Erebus.9276:

Hi, I’m Bob. I play a scepter/torch guardian and have been getting massive grief from everyone I party with in the lfg tool. This is my build and I can crit over 600 with my burning so I know my personal damage is fine. Yet I constantly get people yelling at me and even some death threats and its really ruining my immersion. I haven’t even been able to craft a single piece of dungeon gear because I’m constantly booted and its just so wrong and frustrating. People say these instances are not that difficult yet people treat them so seriously.. My faith says to forgive and forget but this is just so crushing. Help?

You have got to be joking me right now. Torch is just crap and condition DO NOT crit. Burning as a base hits for good damage but Guardians have that already. If you want to go DPS your building it out incorrect and should be running GS + Sword/Focus as that is the highest DPS and best sustain (other than ele) in the game.

People treat them seriously because most of us do not like having to carry people like you through every run. If you join an experienced or zerk group and you tell them straight up I don’t know it well and ask for help maybe they would be nice to help you out. But otherwise forget it I would kick you in a heart beat if I saw you with a torch.

Marna Nindar.8120:

Rick.5781:

So ascended weapons begin dropping at daily level 11? If this is the case, they should change the way the tiers are layed out in the LFG panel to reflect this.

This. And also please just make a 21-30 and 31-40 tier instead of a 21-40. It is by no mean a priority, but since a good number of the lfgs are there it would seem the logical thing to do (at least to me! )

^ Seriously get tired of people joining my daily 31-40 tier because its in the 20’s range

Agony.3542:

A private team instance? Challenging mobs? Why not put in some bosses&miniquests aswell and call it an elite dungeon? Just designed to be hard this time. No waypoints (Wipe = start again) and in order to enter one person will have to pay a fee to a certain npc, right here http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Temple_of_the_Ages.

The whole “dungeon” or “private area” should not only focus on, but also require using mechanics like reflections/aegis/WELL TIMED PROTECTION/Pulls/DODGES aswell as a good amount of damage in order to complete (why require a good amount of damage? Because it is ridiculous how easy stuff gets if you wear full soldiers). The groups and mini bosses should also have more than just one or two skills, 8+ for bosses and 4 for regular mobs would probably be the way to go. Put in some mechanics similar to the fractal instabilities(no weakness please, that’s just dumb, rather perma cripple with a lot of ranged mobs going on, or damage while moving/standing still etc.). Increase the size of parties for this dungeon. Instead of quantity mobs, make quality mobs. Some that will punish you if you stack AND others that will punish you if you spread out, not some “haha you need 3 extra seconds to kill me but i can not kill you” crap. Some that you may skip, if you want to take that risk, others that need to be killed in order to progress. And in the end give some proper rewards. Not 3 blues and a green (ofc not a free precursor), but something like prestigous weapons (tormented) and ascended drops etc. (bloodstone dust is NOT ascended).
But hey, the next 6 months will feature more circlezerg content anway : /

Pretty sure this is what Fractals we’re supposed to be for. But I do agree.

Seems to me lupi did get some changes but honestly I like him as is just wish they would make a second mode (hardmode) for dungeons or new type of group raid (more than 5).

You have to remember, 90% of pugs can barely make it to lupi let alone kill him without ranging.

Rick.5781:

Is vitality necessary for very high level fractals (40-70), or are pure berserker builds still viable? Im about to start crafting some ascended weapons and armor and want to know if I should go pure berserkers (thats my current build) or mix in some vitality and toughness. I play a ranged ranger if that matters.

Im only at level 31, with 35 AR, so Im not sure if my dying is due to not having enough AR, or if the mobs just do that much more damage. Im also not sure how enemy damage will scale as the levels continue to increase.

Please for the love of god…in PvE you should be running full zerker and use say Weakness for example to survive. Weakness will increase your survivability a great deal (more so than toughness) and not decrease your damage whosoever. There are plenty sources of it especially if you have Warriors in the group or with consumables.

Also, on ranger you should not be running a bow or bear as this is extremely counter productive and I would honestly kick you just for that if you were in my group.

On the wiki there is a chart with what AR is required to survive at what level. 35 AR from 30-39 should be plenty.

Ariete.6509:

Would 30AR be sufficient for 30+ or do i have to wait 6 more days, get my second acessory to even try?

Sorry to hijack the thread but my two cents are that the general conseus is zerk all the way, best defense is not being there plus agony hits per health percentage so more vit helps very little.

Actually vitality and toughness DO NOT help against agony period. Agony takes a percentage of HP.

Amineo.8951:

I Don’t think you will survive in full zerk as a ranger in Dredge fractal (i hate this one so much!) especially at that level.

You are just wrong plain and simple conditions and boons we’re invented for a reason.

Just write down their name and use the merge bug to destroy their instance. Pay back is a kitten.

ANet apparently likes to increase the value of a path and promote path selling as this change does not affect an organized group in any way. Totally fine by me if you ask they just gave me a raise on my path selling for Christmas thanks ANet!

BTW I think it’s bugged as it shows up after abomb same with the WP after abomb (both spawn a the same time)

Nar.8327:

I might be one of the only ones, but I actually quite enjoy the underwater fractal. Unfortunately, since the Fractured update, it might as well have just been removed from the game.

At the moment, the underwater fractal is considered a “short” fractal, along with swamp and Ascalon. Unfortunately, because swamp is much quicker, literally every group simply keeps rolling until they get swamp, meaning no one ever plays underwater fractal anymore. The ascalon fractal is a possible second fractal, so it still pops up occassionally, but if the group starts with swamp, the underwater one is completely gone from the rotation.

Please, please, add the underwater fractal to the second fractal rotation. I’m tired of having to beg groups not to roll swamp in order to see it.

Then run with different groups, water is just as fast as swamp in an organized group. My groups usually roll swamp as well but we like to have the agony on Mesmer for a harder fractal should we get one.

I personally love fighting Lupi and primarily run Arah every day for this reason. IMO he is a good test of skill. His attacks are telegraphed a bit but if you mess up you will be punished for sure. I love this fight and wish ANet would make more bosses like this.

Elaron.8150:

Lets discuss the playstyle in general.Our role in party.We arent heavy hitters(hello warriors),we arent supportive(lfg fractal 99+ guardian only), we arent utility based (portals from mesmers).yet we are given lowest base hp and armor.What is idea of our class?

Actually if you think Warrior is the heaviest hitter you are dead wrong most classes when buffed hit harder than Warrior. The reason Warrior is so popular is because it is hard to screw up. Guardian S/F + GS is one of the highest DPS in the game and Ele with FGS and Lightning hammer is right up there. In most speed runs, you generally see 1-2 eles, 1 mes or guard, at least 1 warrior, n possibly a thief. The main DPS in that group comp actually comes from FGS on the eles. (AKA heavy DPS n debuffing role)

Second, ele is quite survivable provided you can play it correctly. Ele has a good amount of damage migitation through blinds and attunements not to mention practically perma vigor and insane burst if needed.

Now if you are referring to PvP or WvW some of this doesn’t apply but in general Ele can still be played however you feel like playing it and fill any role.

And for the record, Ele actually got a pretty good buff this last patch so stop QQing

No offense, but I have no reason why you guys insist on going into Water and Arcana. Its just not worth it, I find a Staff build with 30/10/10/10/10 or S/D or S/F with 30/10/10/20/0 to just be much better overall.

I can see the heal working well in certain PvP or WvW situations but in general its just worse than what we have currently bottom line.

shimmerless.4560:

Belka is also extremely bugged, not only will she often cast orbs in melee (up to three times in a row on occasion) but many orbs are invisible and have no ground targets.

I can confirm this. Found this out last night by a phantom lightning orb in melee range without a ground target even.

Wtf anet, where are the patch notes for this? If your going to change something at least give us a heads up.

My suggestion to fix this issue would be to implement a party leader mechanism. The person who starts the party would be leader. I’ve listed below how I think it should work.

- the player that starts the party or created the lfg post is party leader
- party leader can pass on the leader role to any member in the party but then loses the role
- only party leader can request a kick that must be seconded but cannot be kicked himself
- only party leader can repost on lfg and remove, merge or disband the group.
- if party leader leaves the role is passed to a selected player or to the person who joined the party first.

In my opinion this would solve all issues presented in this thread as well as kicks when the instance opener dcs or rage quits.

I completely agree, this game needs some change and from what I have seen the Living Story system is definitely not the change it needs. There have been less than 5 patches in the history of Guild Wars 2 that I can say that I have actually liked playing. Most of the time I honestly just skip the Living Story patches as it seems like it is always the same kind of zerg style temporary content over and over.

This thread has some really great ideas and stuff the community has been asking for. I personally would love to see Guild style raids and more challenging content like hard mode dungeons for us more serious players. I was really looking forward to the Teq Rising patch but it turned out to be another zerg style battle. Instead I enjoyed the new TA path much more as it actually required a team to work together and had some interesting mechanics and is something I would like to see more of for sure.

At this point, I’ve also explored each zone numerous times and know them like the back of my hand even though I am not a exploration kind of person. I would absolutely love to see some more level 80 zones with some new instances and dungeons possibly guild raids and some more lovely scenery found in Guild Wars. This game has great potential but lately I feel that with each patch more and more of the potential is lost and I really hope ArenaNet considers stopping the Living Story content (except for holidays) to focus more on expansion type content with new zones, dungeons, gear sets, raids, rewards for future and current content.

I also would like to say that I had very high hope for the Fractured patch and was OK with losing my fractal level all for the improved rewards. I do however say while I am grateful for it getting some attention I still believe it needs a lot more work to be rewarding especially since the fractal weapon box is not available at the current available levels which was my main motivation for participating in fractals in the first place.

Brutal Arts.6307:

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

We fixed a number of bugs and made lots of balance changes to existing fractals.

So the dredge clown car has been brought in line (read: drastically reduced in number) and the hp of the champs in uncategorized is now 1/10th of what it was before?

These were the reasons these fractals were trash and people rerolled.

Not only this, Dredge is a complete waste of time except for the Heavy Miners bags that occasionally drop. They are just so ridiculously time consuming to say swamp or water. As for uncategorized, this one is fairly easy and I don’t see a reason to nerf the champ HP in melee they all go down rather quickly. I really don’t see why people hate Uncategorized. If anything Cliffside could use a few tweaks

More people running low fractals is likely. More people jumping in higher level groups (30+) without the correct AR even more likely. I wish ANet would modify the LFG system to take your FOTM level into account

It’s already been data mined and possibly hinted to be released dec 10. It will be released this year as far as I know since it was promised this year. However, I’m sure will be one major grind fest

There is a post on the forum about it. Search for it

swiftpaw.6397:

Annoy pugs?
Easy,
just ping zerker stat gear with scholar runes on. Most of them hate it.

In which case I will kick them because the description was for “Zerkers ONLY be experienced! ping on join Arah p2”

Brew Pinch.5731:

Account bound levels is fantastic. The majority of players could not be kittened leveling new characters all the way back to max, and anyone already at max already understands the encounters. Playing a new character changes nothing.

Most importantly, you can already jump to max level on a fresh character without having leveled there.

On the rewards, I obviously don’t know for sure, but I seriously doubt they’d remove the daily for each 10 levels. It’s too important for keeping lower levels populated, it would be a huge mistake to remove it.

I for sure will never be doing a sub fotm 30 ever again. It won’t be worth the time.

panzer.6034:

FYI, you can at least still get one chest per tier.

In the current system yes, but you can also run 48 (or whatever level it is) twice on 2 different characters. In the new system, only run 48 once a day then 38 (for reduced rewards) and so on. How is this better?

This is just like the account bound dungeon patch. Some of us actually liked running the same path or fotm 3 times in one day.

Join the guild FOTM if you want to find some groups. Best place i know.

Scoundrel.2139:

Titanimite.2534:

I agree with you guys completely, first dungeons now this. I leveled multiple characters to get rewards more than once a day. They are now nerfing the rewards and destroying all my hard work. Thanks alot ANet. >.<

Little confused. So, are you saying that you spent ages leveling your alts, and now you wont be able to take your alts out on the same fractals? Or are you unhappy that others may be able to play without having to put in the same ‘work’ you did?

If it is the latter, then (and this is an assumption, certainly) it seems your happiness with the current system is derived only from being able to tell others you have something they don’t, rather than having happiness derive from your own work.

You can still take out your alts, do the same thing you’ve always done (apart from the level 30 downgrade which is another matter and across the board) with them. Just others will be able to join you. Why does their ascension have to take away from your gaming fun?

Yes I know that I can take my alts in the new system. I’m mad that I spent all that time leveling them to 50 fotm and now to only get one chest per day regardless of how many characters I run fotm on a day. Right now I usually do 2-3 fotm a day for multiple reward chests. In the new system, this will no longer be possible not to mention all the people with new toons in level 40+ fractals >.<

Not likely, but I hope something like this will be implemented

panzer.6034:

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

• Your total agony resist will not change. If you had 55, you will still have 55.

BAM!

Good it better not change!

Fafnir.5124:

With agony reset you wont be able to play at level 30 either let a lot 50 so what do you care.

I care because I spent at least 4 ecto stacks on my back pieces (granted 2 stacks we’re required) and a kitten load of gold and my time to get up to level 50. So guess what? Now I get to spend more gold and time to level back up to 50 just so I can play the new fractals? kitten that!

Besides according to the devs you won’t lose your current AR

IceVyper.6810:

Titanimite.2534:

IceVyper.6810:

Again, it would be nice to hear what other people in the same situation think. Especially the ones who leveled multiple characters to 40+.

I have already said my peace and I am utterly kitten ed if I don’t get rewarded for all my stacks of ecto, gold, and time for 55 AR across 3 toons.

Exactly, not to mention that it is an accomplishment to get that gear and play all those characters to level 50, which the acount bound fractal level makes completely meaningless.

Yep, exactly not to mention you can only get the daily chest once now instead of once per toon. I call bullkitten

IceVyper.6810:

mtpelion.4562:

Titanimite.2534:

mtpelion.4562:

Titanimite.2534:

Quickfoot Katana.8642:

I think we should get 2g per fractal level resetted.

Maybe not exactly 2g but something to compensate us for our time from levels 30-50. 50+ would be nice if it was before the hard cap but that’s probably asking way too much. Sides we won't get anything in return anyways

Hold on now… I’m pretty sure you just got through saying this:

Titanimite.2534:

Actually they gave you a significantly better chance at skins and chests. Also, that is a completely irrelevant example that does not apply.

So which is it? Were you compensated with a “significantly better chance” or do you need to be compensated for your time for levels 30-50? Doublespeak!

You should read those posts in context they will attempt to make the exact same point which is that CURRENTLY levels 48 and 50 give you a better chance than 30 does now at weapons and good loot. In the FUTURE, you will get better rewards but I have said I DON’T kittenING CARE! We deserve compensation for our time spent in the CURRENT fotm for levels 30-50.

For levels 50+ fine since it would be hard to reward those as most people probably exploited.

You just said you already got compensated in the form of better drops (which there actually is no evidence that suggests your drops are any better other than at the 10, 20, 30 tiers). Now you want extra compensation on top of those better drops in the form of a payment per level. Either your extra levels rewarded you with better drops and you deserve nothing, or your extra levels didn’t provide anything and thus were meaningless and now deserve nothing. There is no scenario here in which your extra levels deserve compensation when they are removed.

Of course you derserve a compensation for the extra levels. You are being set back, to do them all over again. Also, you most definitely deserve to be rewarded for spending time to level alts to the max doable lvl (in this case 50), only to see the entire player base to be given the same priviliges without the minimal effort.

Thank you!

Calae.1738:

Titanimite.2534:

I agree with you guys completely, first dungeons now this. I leveled multiple characters to get rewards more than once a day. They are now nerfing the rewards and destroying all my hard work. Thanks alot ANet. >.<

You have no idea what hard work is. If a video game is hard work then I feel really bad for you. Especially GW2. Casual central.

Oh kitten you, apparently you’ve never done fotm 80….casual my kitten