Guild Wars 2

Rognik.2579:

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Leah Hoyer.9382:

Thank you for all the comments and thoughts, everyone. I really appreciate the warm welcome and your feedback on what you’d like to see. I’ll also say that many of your comments mirror discussions that we’re already having here.

It’s about how to make Trahearne more popular with the non-sylvari demographic isn’kitten I told them, it’s not going to work.

Cat ears do not belong on a sylvari.

True. Sylvari really are more dog people.

Anyway, welcome and it’s good to see that the many comments in this thread haven’t scared you off yet! Instead of giving advice, I’ll try trusting in your better judgement in how to steer the story. Sometimes, a little faith is all it needs.

I am disappointed that there will be no dragon songs, though. I could see Jormag in a top hat doing a kick line to “Hello, my baby”.

“Send me a kiss by wire…”

But that was Warner Brothers, not Disney.

Lunar Sunset.8742:

cheshirefox.7026:

if you like farmville2, then you’re going to love gw2

Actually, ArcheAge is more like FarmVille than GW2, GW2is like hello kitty online atm.

If that’s the case I have to check out this “Hello Kitty Online”.

phys.7689:

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

phys.7689:

netting your mother isnt worth crippling all your current users.
its a bad solution.

From all I have read – that crippling wasn’t supposed to happen anyway. Not that it matters anymore.

actually based on a what was said, it likely was supposed to happen, however they now see it went too far. The implication is they will reduce the effect, but it will still be in place.

The implication was, from what I read, it wasn’t supposed to hit people who had already “passed” that point. Which would be most current users.

And while it sucks for newbies . . . allegedly, since I haven’t tried it yet . . . it’s a lot less painful than having done EverQuest 1-15. Or as tedious as FF14 1-10 was.

scerevisiae.1972:

RubberDougie.2750:

I’d let a 6 year old play this. I was playing DOOM and Killter Instinct at 6ish.

you’d let a 6yo callously murder peaceful races for fun/profit? some parent.

Somehow I wonder if that’s Ryan.

Also, six year olds can already do that – just give them Master of Orion or Civ.

Tcbys.4391:

“My Child’s First MMO”? The game has been dumbed down that a 5 year old can understand it. If you dont fix it im sticking with a MMO that is more complex than this that is FF XIV.

Hehe . . .

Oh, wait, you’re serious.

HEH.

I consider FFXIV “needlessly complex” in some areas, and while it was kind of fun . . . I hit a point where it stopped being fun because everyone was already doing endgame stuff and all I was doing was still slogging through the main scenario. It went from fun to “brick wall, and ankle charm with a big iron weight on it, go have fun now”.

I haven’t been back in a week.

If I do, I’ll probably switch to a Tank class instead – seems that’s the only way to really assure you can weather the mid-30s.

Player.2475:

If you like to spend the entire end-game doing nothing but completing achievements and unlocking skins because the developers stopped pushing out content that had any substance almost a year ago, this is the game for you.

Sounds like Guild Wars 1 to me . . . at least that was all I really did in the last two years I played. Worked on titles and tried to find the few interesting skins.

phys.7689:

netting your mother isnt worth crippling all your current users.
its a bad solution.

From all I have read – that crippling wasn’t supposed to happen anyway. Not that it matters anymore.

But seriously, if you want me to start talking about good things:

- I enjoy the first chapter of the Blood Legion Charr personal story. Like, really enjoy it.

- I really enjoy the music at times, especially the tracks which play while fighting the Claw of Jormag and the ambient music which puts pieces of pre-Searing Ascalon in it.

Kamui.4038:

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

You’re saying it’s not okay to demonize one group of people while deriding them en masse?

I’m not saying that at all. I’m not saying anything beyond what I said, and what I said is that essentially one group of people are working and the other group are like on welfare while berating the ones that are working. I didn’t say anything about anything being “okay”, just that that is how it is. The ones that complain about key farming aren’t losing anything, in fact the key farmers save them gold, so I can only deduce that they are being slothful and/or envious. Probably more about envy than anything else now that I think about it.

Okay, I apologize, you’re not saying it, you’re just doing it. Carry on

The best thing about Guild Wars 2 is I can turn it off at the end of the night.

I still can’t quite manage it with Minecraft and have to orchestrate interruptions so someone can ninja-close it for me.

phys.7689:

which is excellent for your mother, but horrible for many other users. To be clear, its not bad to teach things slowly and one at a time(for some learners). Its bad to force all users to operate a similar pace.

But unfortunate if you want to be assured the players should have experienced X before planning for it to show up in a zone/event/story instance.

pdavis.8031:

Valik Shin.9027:

Rummor mill ::::::: Anet said in gw1 they had plans for the tower but the fans came up with such awesome ideas the orginal plan couldn’t hold up to so they scraped it.

Wait, What!?

Fans…on a forum …came up with “awesome” ideas!?

I am in shock and awe….

I think I believe ANet is making plans to turn all characters into sylvari more than that.

phys.7689:

lets take an iphone, should they lock all functionality and give you 1 new function each day until you fully know the phone?

the solution is bad.

That is actually the only method which worked for teaching my mother how to do general low-level maintenance (data and physical) and preventative measures to keep her computer from burning out every year.

Supposedly accounts already at higher levels are intended to have all that unlocked. Stay tuned.

Leah Hoyer.9382:

Thank you for all the comments and thoughts, everyone. I really appreciate the warm welcome and your feedback on what you’d like to see. I’ll also say that many of your comments mirror discussions that we’re already having here.

It’s about how to make Trahearne more popular with the non-sylvari demographic isn’kitten I told them, it’s not going to work.

Cat ears do not belong on a sylvari.

Kamui.4038:

The ones that demonize it are the lazy clods that are afraid of putting in a little work into something themselves, and when they see others working they get all uppity and demand you idle in Lion’s Arch like they do.

So, I need to be clear here, it’s a little muddled what you’re saying. You’re saying it’s not okay to demonize one group of people while deriding them en masse?

Key farming kept weapon skins at reasonable prices among other things. Some weapon skins were already more expensive than some precursors before the patch. I haven’t checked if prices rose yet but if they haven’t yet, they will soon.

Less important than the note it was mostly boring after a few characters and really was producing more junk than useful stuff. Sort of like other farming in the game.

Thia.4891:

And really, that’s all we want: an answer. Has the PS been changed? In what ways and for what reasons?

400% more Trahearne facetime, and this time his sword gets particle effects and footsteps like Kudzu.

Leo Paul.1659:

It really is very inefficient as a source of gold and one of the least intrusive methods of farming. I dunno why it gets demonized so much. /shrug

Because normally keys cost Gems (never mind that they do, in fact, drop…) and it’s perceived as people “cheating the system”.

. . . for mostly junk nobody wants and a chance at cool stuff.

notebene.3190:

I would actually like to finish the sentence:

“, but we could be.”

Only if they will train me in the process so I don’t need to tug a game dev friend from another company over to explain proper tester protocol. And only if I can get paid for basically taking a shotgun to the head of my MTG time.

I mean, social life.

Redlash.8053:

Thia.4891:

I agree Slayer. And yeah, the worst thing seems to be that they won’t even comment on it. I am furious that they would even think about messing up the story, but it saddens me to see no dev comment on the outcry from fans.

They just don’t care anymore. Plain and simple.

I rather doubt this, and doubt it is ever “plain and simple”.

Someone poke me when we get to halls/raid content? I’m not much use for discussing logistics since I tended to always run such needs simply when I ran groups for tabletop or Scouts meetings.

Leo Paul.1659:

There are so many threads detailing what they don’t like about the patch and the only thing you get from those is that everyone’s a secret key farmer? Selective attention much?

I was a secret key farmer. But then I realized nothing from keys is really worth my time doing that when I could be scouring the world for more Linen.

Kaleban.9834:

and stop assuming the majority of players are two steps away from a lobotomy, and the rest will sort itself out.

I hate to break it to you but . . . most everyone is two steps away from a lobotomy or procedure like it. One of those steps is serious head injury, which isn’t as uncommon as you think.

Morsus.5106:

Leah Hoyer.1983:

consistent, complex, nuanced characters and storytelling are absolutely my goal

/me jumps up and cheers

Careful, dear neighbor, a goal is something which may not be attained despite any amount of heroic efforts.

Best of luck to doing it, though, especially in the medium we have here. It’s always difficult to pull off nuance over the first two. Complexity is easy (Kingdom Hearts, Metal Gear), consistency is easy (Zelda, Halo). Nuance? Tougher, because it is much easier for it to go unnoticed.

Reyouka.7039:

….. Rangers can’t actually control their pets, one of the main draws of the class, until level 24. Are you freaking kittenting me?

Actually, we barely have control of our pets at level 80. Except for “sit” “heel” and “oh god don’t bring that here”.

Zoso.8279:

I agree with 90% of what you said bro but I think the CDI is looking good atm. Few (hiccups) here and there but trolls will be trolls :/

Sadly, I don’t have all that much faith in the forum community to behave anymore. I like to be proved wrong on that score but . . . I think I’m going to start betting on entropy.

Xillllix.3485:

Halloween doesn’t have more to do with the LS than SAB did.

Yes, but they still took time out for it last year away from Scarlet’s little problem-making run.

LIVE.4875:

Chris Whiteside.6102:

Illysharia.7286:

Chris Whiteside.6102:

Ohoni.6057:

While I think a great many players also agree, the CDI for guilds was talked about before the patch.

Yeah, but I didn’t care about it then either. CDIs are great, but there is nothing they could do involving guilds that would make the game any better, and the only thing they could do is make things worse (by adding new features that you need to be part of a large guild to benefit from), so I’ve never cared about a guild-based CDI. Before this week, I would have wanted a CDI on the destructive changes to the Traits system introduced in the last feature patch.

This new patch is a major issue though, and they need to have a major sit-down explaining why we shouldn’t hate the things we believe we hate about it. Why should we like the new level-gating system? Why should anyone? Why should we appreciate having to go several layers deep to see what we just sold rather than having it as a top-level option? These are all far more important topics of discussion than anything involving guilds.

To you maybe but the world doesn’t revolve around either you or I. I promised the CDI and we are doing it. There is plenty of awesome stuff that can come from it so it is a pleasure to be able to read what members of the CDI have to say.

if you don’t see the value in it then don’t partake.

Cheers

Chris

It’s sort of like planning a family meeting a week in advance to talk about how the kids could help out mom more around the house. You promise your wife it will get better, and set a date and time. Then, when the promised time comes up, the house catches on fire. Rather than addressing the fire, you stubbornly sit your family down in the burning living room to make good on your promise.

That is the degree of sense you are making. It is such a magnitudinous sign relating to the disconnect between what is going on, and what ANET wants to do.

No. It is nothing like that at all.

Chris

When your customer tells you, flat out, how we as a community currently feel, and you dismiss them, then go further to say ,“your wrong” and leave no input or explanation other then your arrogance and possible pride.

Or it could be a poor analogy which tends to the hyperbolic and doesn’t deserve anything further than “no, you’re mistaken”. You know, like it is.

Did you miss how he (twice) blatantly asked if people wanted to go forward with this or not? And he was told “no, let’s go on”. Not, I’ll note, by me – I told him it might be best to shelve the CDI idea since it was probably just going to turn into a lightning rod for discontent.

Which it has.

Then the definitive thing we as a community know about you is that your in Denial.

Actually, the definitive thing we know about Mr. Whiteside is he’s fairly honest and simple. He doesn’t talk about things he doesn’t know about, he goes to find people who do know about it to ask and if they give him something to report back, he does. That’s why people really liked the CDIs last round – he was motivated to make them work.

And we won’t have the patience for you to go through all 5 steps. So fix things by being one of the first companies to actually take the next step in business and truly listen to your community.

Right now its screaming from bugs/glitches, and hungry and starved for content

So, I’m confused . . . should they be listening to it or simply doing whatever we tell them to in the loudest and angriest voices we can?

I told a friend I was giving up trying to get him into the game.

. . . mostly because he’s a Mac user and won’t go PC.

pdavis.8031:

I kinda like it. Its fun. The title is neat, and am curious as to whats in the bag. (If you’ve already gotten please dont spoil it. Thanks). Right now i am at 32/51, and its been cool running around, killing mobs and actually hoping to get a junk item. Plus the different tiers makes it so have to explore a bit.

I will spoil what’s in the bag.

Shinies.

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

I think the achievement sends a very clear signal that they are willing to recycle as much old content as possible, in order to keep you busy.

It’s kind of ludicrous that they thought this would look good.

I dunno, I think it’s more ludicrous they think this looks good. Or, for that matter, this . . .

Zyrhan.3180:

This new tutorial scheme assumes that new players need to have their hand held and gently shown every single feature of the game, preferably at a pace of about one or two features per level. Having game features that you can interact with and actually get LESS explanation and information now than they did when they at least appeared on the zone map is absolutely a failure of this (bad) design paradigm.

I agree with this. I think the help system of FF14 . . . as much as I want to burn it alive . . . really sort of encapsulated the idea because every time you needed to learn something new – bam, pop up window you need to dismiss or read. Which you can go back and look up later if you need to reference it.

Regardless of when you can unlock them in practice, it’s a completely ridiculous burden to put on experienced players trying to level an alt.

Also agreed.

Relshdan.6854:

….or removing defiance from a boss

That’s exactly what I use it for, when I really want the range of the longbow instead of the close-up range of shortbow (Concussion Shot is, yes, awesome.) And there are a few times I really really want the range. (Risen Abominations….)

Fernling.1729:

I’ve adjusted to knowing that there will be that delay, but it’s still a bit annoying. Is that delay intentional?

Not intentional, just a byproduct of the coding from what I heard. And fixing it to work “properly instant” ran into trouble with the code behaving so . . .

Pets are a mess and will probably be a mess until they overhaul the AI engine entirely. And I think they did bring someone on the team to do AI work so . . . fingers crossed! This may be the first game to make me not want to murder my own pets

Pixelpumpkin.4608:

You’re welcome! Sadly doesn’t change the fact that it appears to be broken.

So it’s not just me? Wonder how it unlocks or if it auto-unlocks and is not doing so. Until then, time to start hoarding! Don’t need the Bloodstone Dust anyway.

Relshdan.6854:

no need to be snarky.
i get that you are a great player and never lose.

Nope, I lose a lot. That’s how I learn how not to do things.

point is…….ranger got some really nice buffs that can be counter played by dodging, blocking, reflecting, etc.

I’m okay with that. Mostly because these are things which should be considered rather than ignored in favor of “nerf dis plz”.

this is what balance passes should do.

that said, if the LB ranger gets the range burst on you to open fight….better hope he can’t melee.

Well, that’s what Point Blank Shot is for

Vayne.8563:

Is it a pain? Maybe a bit yeah. Does it deserve this level of hate?

I don’t think so.

Yes, but this is what happens in a post-SAB-Riots world where bad behavior gets the attention. Now, less snark.

I don’t mind the hate so much as I mind people running with something which was proven untrue and repeating it like it’s fact (“Heh, can’t gather or salvage until it’s unlocked.”) or sniping at red posts with some variation of “I don’t believe you”/“you must be lying”.

Relshdan.6854:

HOLY kitten. please tell me this is a sarcastic troll thread.

if not, i’ll be turned “white knight” before long.

I’ll even hand over the asbestos-lined shield and suit to you while I go back to trying to pick apart MMOs

Fernling.1729:

I’m liking the ranger stuff. I’ve actually logged a few hours just playing my ranger since the patch hit. I don’t feel like the longbow is very good, but it’s fun.
If they really want to impress rangers, they should put some work into the pets. AI is still terribly buggy and the f2 skill delay is still there.

I haven’t had too much trouble with the pet F2, but I guess that’s because I taught myself how to work with it and not to rely on insta-cast too much from them. It’s not as good as my GW1 pet control in some aspects, but in others it works pretty well.

Relshdan.6854:

LB changes + BM traits changes + signet changes+ SoB replacment GM trait make ranger pretty nice in all but PVE 5-man instances (dungeon/fractals). fix frost spirit, and ranger is in a better place then i ever thought it could be.

rnager players are the absolute winners of this patch (so far…can’t help but think the QQ will result in a unnecessary nerf).

Oh please, it’s just hilarious seeing people try to meta with ranger and Rapid Shot and get it so terribly wrong in WvW. On one, they failed to do significant damage on me due to some evades so they started running. I hit em with Winter’s Bite, and proceeded to chase him down. I had trouble getting the finish until he ran into a few people apparently looking for spoons.

By the way “Predator’s Onslaught” is really kind of neat

I don’t see a problem so much. Players trying to ride the meta like that are going to get washed out when they find out it doesn’t cut it.

I noticed HP 110-194 computer, with 8GB RAM.

This is where all the work probably went.

Vayne.8563:

So I was out in the world testing out the new longbow changes, and I hit rapid fire on a skritt, which died pretty fast. When I switched to the next target, my rapid fire continued firing, killing the second skritt as well. It used to cancel the skill.

I didn’t see this change in the patch notes, but it’s been a long time in coming.

. . . wait, what?

I want to try now. (Grabs longbow and gets back on)

Remember, Chris punched out around 6pm PST so you won’t see anything from him until morning PST.

Kain Francois.4328:

Quite the contrary, the team which makes Disney films are quite amazing. Who could forget “Aladdin” and the “Lion King”? They are classics for a reason. Even their recent film, “Frozen” is pretty impressive.

Lion King should be impressive – it was “Hamlet”. Heh. But there is an agreement of Disney not being . . . terrible. I mean, anymore.

One Prarie Outpost.4860:

pdavis.8031:

A bit off topic: Can we please stop with all “X was too confusing for new players so they locked it behind a higher level” posts? It’s been one day and I’ve already seen it used for everything from posting on the forums, to logging into the game. (Yeah I know I touched on it myself, and deeply regret it now) It’s starting to get old, and offers nothing in the way of feedback. Thank you.

Except that all feedback is not rosy happy unicorns and lemon drops. Sometimes it’s a nasty stinky cheese sandwich on moldy bread.

Yes, but said nasty sandwiches don’t need to be hurled at the face.

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Funnily enough all the things that DIDN’T make it into the game were all the things that people wanted….

masks…
swimming suits….
precursor crafting…

I dunno, they fixed my longbow . . .

Vayne.8563:

fellyn.5083:

Because every other thing that was data mined didn’t eventually show up in the game in pretty much exactly as it was in the data mined information…

Like the paper bag masks? You’re right!

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Paper-Bag_Helm_4-Pack

How about the profession-specific test armor? I saw someone link a set sitting around Lion’s Arch once. Or how about the amulet with something like +500 to Power?

Cactus Brawler.7415:

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Cactus Brawler.7415:

They wouldn’t be getting mocked if they didn’t release a patch with more bugs than a entomology laboratory.

Have you worked in one of those? I don’t think that’s actually possible.

They’ve tossed us a patch, a patch that contains such wonders as not being able to join friends unless you have a VIP item that they swore would never ‘ever’ come to the Western version of the game.

Yeah, I’m going to need proof. Like . . . now.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/SO-I-CANNOT-join-my-friend-in-a-zone-now/first#post4393656

A ‘Bug’ that is stopping a player joining the same map as their wife for Tequatil because he doesn’t have the VIP teleport/join friend item.

With a red post to say ‘its totes a bug for reals, not intended really honest’

So show me the item. Now

Cactus Brawler.7415:

They wouldn’t be getting mocked if they didn’t release a patch with more bugs than a entomology laboratory.

Have you worked in one of those? I don’t think that’s actually possible.

They’ve tossed us a patch, a patch that contains such wonders as not being able to join friends unless you have a VIP item that they swore would never ‘ever’ come to the Western version of the game.

Yeah, I’m going to need proof. Like . . . now.

Cactus Brawler.7415:

DreamOfACure.4382:

Cactus Brawler.7415:

You actually think they playtested this and didn’t just port the China coding over?

There’s legitimate posts on reddit from Arena Net staff about that.

Can we cut out the childish mockery and focus on the valid points that will get devs to take us seriously?

If they were taking us seriously they’d have a public test realm.

And they wouldn’t post on Reddit, that marvelous location of free speech ~_~

Yes, because posting on their own forums and getting mocked here is much better than being mocked there.