Guild Wars 2

Try going into the chamber of secrets in the Bloodtide Coast. That has happened a fair amount. (I had to go there, even though I think I had it before.)

If you don’t get the gift and the little star then, you must be missing something.

However, they have added points of interest and waypoints that you are not required to get if you had completed the zone before they were added..

Delvoire.8930:

TooBz.3065:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Astralporing.1957:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Astralporing.1957:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

morrolan.9608:

Ah yes entitlement, the fallback position to demonise those who don’t want to grind.

But here’s the catch. You don’t have to grind.

Ah yes, another fallback position, used when there’s no real arguments addressing the problem. Yes, i don’t have to. It doesn’t change the fact that it is alt unfriendly. Extremely alt unfriendly, in fact.

The fact that you bring up non-existent problems pretty much highlight my side of the argument. This game allows you to gear and play all the alts you have.

People want BiS gear, but don’t like the requirements. That’s fine. You can have the tier right below it. Exotics aren’t much different stat wise, and are much cheaper. Very alt friendly.

Yes, yes, i understand your argument well. GW2 is very alt-friendly. Unless i actually want to have alts, and play the game. But hey, i don’t need to, so it’s okay.

Here’s your confusion. You’re mixing “NEED” and “WANT”. You can play GW2 with all Exotics just fine. You don’t “need” to have all Ascended gear, you “want” it. Thus your argument becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. It’s not alt friendly, because you can’t have what you want.

This is the same argument for all the complainers. People have this feeling that because they paid for this game, they should be entitled to getting the game to cater to their particular style of play. It’s ok to want things your way. Heck, I wish I could have Eternity, but you don’t see me complaining that it’s too hard to get.

No no no no no. Everything in this game is a “want”. We don’t “need” to play at all. We “want” to play it. All you are doing is saying that my wants are inferior to yours. No hard feeling though, I feel the same way about you.

If you want to maximize your toons then you need ascended gear.

The problem is that ascended gear serves absolutely no purpose in this game. It’s actually quite ridiculous. It’s a carrot that ANet dangles in from of the players (oooh… shiney stats!) Because some people can’t live without vertical progression.

So after the VP crowd whined, cried, and complained like entitiled brats until ANet caved on their core principles, you come here and say that we shouldn’t make our voices heard? That those of us who want to play the game ANet described before launch are acting “entitled.”

You like the word entitled but here’s another one you should look up. Hubris.

You must’ve missed the comments/posts from Anet that Ascended gear was supposed to be in the game at launch but wasn’t ready. So they slowly brought it out as they finished the details…

If Ascended gear was here on launch, would the same complaints be made?

Again, it is the only complaint I see from people that are saying the game is alt unfriendly. Remember, that is the original discussion.

No, they wouldn’t. But I’d only have 1 toon (and probably, but not necessarily, would have quit already). Also ascended gear acquisition is one of the most alt-unfriendly aspects of the game.

Other’s include daily boss chests, WvW ranks (soon to change), and dungeon tokens (40 token bonus / path is limited per account).

Edit; personally I believe that statement was marketing drivel. Matt Visual has a Q&A with Colin where he basically said it was added because they underestimated how quickly we’d burn though content.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Astralporing.1957:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Astralporing.1957:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

morrolan.9608:

Ah yes entitlement, the fallback position to demonise those who don’t want to grind.

But here’s the catch. You don’t have to grind.

Ah yes, another fallback position, used when there’s no real arguments addressing the problem. Yes, i don’t have to. It doesn’t change the fact that it is alt unfriendly. Extremely alt unfriendly, in fact.

The fact that you bring up non-existent problems pretty much highlight my side of the argument. This game allows you to gear and play all the alts you have.

People want BiS gear, but don’t like the requirements. That’s fine. You can have the tier right below it. Exotics aren’t much different stat wise, and are much cheaper. Very alt friendly.

Yes, yes, i understand your argument well. GW2 is very alt-friendly. Unless i actually want to have alts, and play the game. But hey, i don’t need to, so it’s okay.

Here’s your confusion. You’re mixing “NEED” and “WANT”. You can play GW2 with all Exotics just fine. You don’t “need” to have all Ascended gear, you “want” it. Thus your argument becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. It’s not alt friendly, because you can’t have what you want.

This is the same argument for all the complainers. People have this feeling that because they paid for this game, they should be entitled to getting the game to cater to their particular style of play. It’s ok to want things your way. Heck, I wish I could have Eternity, but you don’t see me complaining that it’s too hard to get.

No no no no no. Everything in this game is a “want”. We don’t “need” to play at all. We “want” to play it. All you are doing is saying that my wants are inferior to yours. No hard feeling though, I feel the same way about you.

If you want to maximize your toons then you need ascended gear.

The problem is that ascended gear serves absolutely no purpose in this game. It’s actually quite ridiculous. It’s a carrot that ANet dangles in from of the players (oooh… shiney stats!) Because some people can’t live without vertical progression.

So after the VP crowd whined, cried, and complained like entitiled brats until ANet caved on their core principles, you come here and say that we shouldn’t make our voices heard? That those of us who want to play the game ANet described before launch are acting “entitled.”

You like the word entitled but here’s another one you should look up. Hubris.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Mine include the following:

1. Entitled is not a dirty word.
2. Any currency that is time gated by account but spent for the character is inherently alt-unfriendly. But, you can discuss the relative importance of the currency.
3. Most MMOs are bad games, with bad systems, saying this GW2 is better than other MMOs is not saying much.
4. We will never agree on this topic, so discussing it further is pointless.

Krypto.2069:

Have one toon (your main) all decked out in the finest gear laurels can buy. The rest of your litter gets blues and greens and maybe one rare. I don’t see the problem.

Then you don’t have alts. You have a main.

ArchonWing.9480:

morrolan.9608:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

I think the argument falls in the Entitlement category.

Ah yes entitlement, the fallback position to demonise those who don’t want to grind.

If it doesn’t affect me, then you issues are your issues. You are entitled.
If it does affect me, then it’s injustice. RAWR.

There, I saved you from reading most of the threads around here.

Exactly. Amazingly on point.

Mimizu.7340:

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you cannot have an alt without first having a main.

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False premise. Alt is just a term that is used to generically refer to people with more than one character. I have 8 alts, and no main. Or one character I play more than the others, but who that is changes.

If we were only suppose to have one character, and this game was not going to be multiple character friendly (it was originally, but it really isn’t anymore) then they should have made that clear upfront.

Edit: removing some of the qq, but not all.

I didn’t expect it and it’s a little surprising. It requires that people just want to dump their supply.

Hjorje.9453:

It actually may not be that long. You have 3 class at medium armor, 3 light, and 2 heavy. It would take that long if you used a different setup for each class, but there should be some overlap in there that cuts the time down.

Also ascended armor is supposed to be a long term thing, not a got to have it right now.

I’ll bet someone has a full set by the end of the week.

HardRider.2980:

Please list “where” you need ascended items to progress in the game?

Yer it’s a lot and takes quite a lot of time to make.. but as their not required for anything atm, there is no rush to get them

This argument is tiresome. The only reason for ascended gear to exist is to allow for progression. If it’s ok for people with one toon to want to progress, it’s ok for people with multiple toons to want to progress.

Doon.2364:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

You get 1 Laurel per daily completion. These don’t take long to do, so even Casuals can do it. And keep in mind that Ascended Armors are top of the line BiS gear. It’s not meant to be able to get easily or quickly. Even if you did 3 dailies a week, you should have roughly 150 Laurels saved up over the year. That’s more than enough to be alt friendly.

150 laurels is more than enough to be alt friendly? lol How many toons can you max out in ascended with that?

150 laurels = 5 amulets.

er.. um.. let’s see. Divide by 6, carry the one… add a time gate… factor in soulbinding…. balance changes… hmmm…

nope, not alt friendly at all.

But as I’ve been saying for months, ANet doesn’t care about alts. There more worried about the majority with a single toon running out of stuff to get.

I believe in the bots.

People on other threads have said that it would be easy to create a bot to place buy orders. It it’s easy to do and gives an advantage, why do people assume that they won’t do it?

Because you can’t see it like the teleporting botters?

Seras.5702:

TooBz.3065:

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It’s not about progression, its about community. Leveling takes me away from my community, therefore I don’t like it.

Then why are you choosing to level in this manner? Do WvW and dungeons to enjoy content and level with the community. Grab a guildie or 2 to tackle some tough content. Have some fun. Think outside the box. Grab a friend or 2 and try to run through high level zones, testing your cooperation and ability to escape, all while gaining mad exploration XP in the process. Heck, even crafting for some levels can be done in LA so you can map chat while you do it.

You’ve got other options than just hearts & DEs in empty zones.

Yeah, people have made recommendations like that, and I’ll give it a try.

My experience has been that leveling a new character is a solitary experience that takes me away from my friends. I don’t know why I’ve done it that way, except that
a) the game encourages it and
b) my early WvW experience indicated that people love to target uplevels, so I only go in there once I’m level 80.
c) crafting is crazy expensive now, I use to get 10-30 levels crafting, but prices are out of control.

HiddenNick.7206:

TooBz.3065:

HiddenNick.7206:

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

Sometimes the leveling process can feel like a grind…

I really can’t imagine how can you consider leveling a grind? When your leveling your pushed around the world to do different things and develop your character! Where is grinding in that?!

Grinding starts when your level 80 and everything you can do is repeating the same things over and over again!

To me, it’s a grind because I’ve done it before. Sure, the Necromancer was fun at first, but that basically wore off sometime between level 20 and 30. Now at level 60 it’s just the same pattern over and over again. Drop wells, focus 4, dagger, dagger, siphon blood. Rinse and repeat.

So when it’s leveling and you’ve done it before then it’s a grind. But if you’re level 80 and you’re doing CoFp1 for a hundred time then it’s not a grind?! Where is logic in that?!

And your argument about combat being repetitive… It’s not only about characters with less then 80 levels. It’s about ALL characters! If you don’t change your build from time to time then it’s going to be repetitive – period.

I disagree that I was saying combat is repetitive. I think leveling is a grind. Still do, although I will try the Necro in WvW.

The way I’ve leveled my 7 80’s and my 8th to level 67 is through hearts and dynamic events. I’m just bored with them at this point.

Also, I should point out that I don’t give a fig about character progression at all. I like to try new things and play around. When I get bored, i play around with something else. All this progression stuff is targeted toward someone else. So I see nothing wrong with selling a level 80 scroll (although I didn’t advocate it, and I’m not so calm down), because, for me, that’s not what the game is about.

It’s not about progression, its about community. Leveling takes me away from my community, therefore I don’t like it.

No,

I think balancing an e-sport is incompatible with balancing an MMO.
I think that there is too much variation in different builds.
I think that because classes share conditions (i.e. bleeding, burning, etc.) you can’t tweak damage the way you may need to and balance conditions.
I think that rangers will always be junk or OP.
I think that warriors will always be junk or OP.
I think that stealth needs an actual hard counter.

Draknar.5748:

TooBz.3065:

MrRuin.9740:

TooBz.3065:

To me, it’s a grind because I’ve done it before. Sure, the Necromancer was fun at first, but that basically wore off sometime between level 20 and 30. Now at level 60 it’s just the same pattern over and over again. Drop wells, focus 4, dagger, dagger, siphon blood. Rinse and repeat.

So? Thats your problem. They have many ways for you to level. Crafting still levels you, WvW, dungeons (except level restricted ones), living story.
Its your own fault you choose to do easy content, focus on it and repeat it over and over. They provide many means for you to level….you want them to hold your hand through all the different ways too? Or just flat out tell you how to do cause you can’t go into anything of your own accord?
Have some of you played any game besides this one? GW2 is stupid easy and fast to level. Should they just put a scroll in the cashshop that instantly makes you 80? Cause that really sounds like what some people want.

I have 6 level 80’s. None of them have been leveled the same way. You all must be playing a different game.

Hostility is unnecessary. I was just relaying my experience.

I agree with Mr.Ruin minus the hostility. My latest level 80 char I leveled exclusively in WvW. Was a completely different experience. What’s cool is you level up without even realizing it. Sometimes I finish a 3hour session in EB and I look down and am two levels higher than when I started.

PvP is also wicked fun with a necro. Just throwin that out there.

People have suggested leveling in WvW. I’ve always been afraid of being a rally bot. I know that people frequently target upleveled. But hey, I’m willing to give it a shot.

MrRuin.9740:

TooBz.3065:

To me, it’s a grind because I’ve done it before. Sure, the Necromancer was fun at first, but that basically wore off sometime between level 20 and 30. Now at level 60 it’s just the same pattern over and over again. Drop wells, focus 4, dagger, dagger, siphon blood. Rinse and repeat.

So? Thats your problem. They have many ways for you to level. Crafting still levels you, WvW, dungeons (except level restricted ones), living story.
Its your own fault you choose to do easy content, focus on it and repeat it over and over. They provide many means for you to level….you want them to hold your hand through all the different ways too? Or just flat out tell you how to do cause you can’t go into anything of your own accord?
Have some of you played any game besides this one? GW2 is stupid easy and fast to level. Should they just put a scroll in the cashshop that instantly makes you 80? Cause that really sounds like what some people want.

I have 6 level 80’s. None of them have been leveled the same way. You all must be playing a different game.

Hostility is unnecessary. I was just relaying my experience.

Mobs also aggro on people using shields. So if you use a shield you may still get swarmed, even in zerkers.

HiddenNick.7206:

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

Sometimes the leveling process can feel like a grind…

I really can’t imagine how can you consider leveling a grind? When your leveling your pushed around the world to do different things and develop your character! Where is grinding in that?!

Grinding starts when your level 80 and everything you can do is repeating the same things over and over again!

To me, it’s a grind because I’ve done it before. Sure, the Necromancer was fun at first, but that basically wore off sometime between level 20 and 30. Now at level 60 it’s just the same pattern over and over again. Drop wells, focus 4, dagger, dagger, siphon blood. Rinse and repeat.

I think any reward is fine as long as they tell you what it will be. Hiding a bad reward until the end of the season was a very bad idea.

It’s all about being able to make an informed choice.

If someone explained nicely that there were trying to have a guild event or something, I’d probably leave them alone. If they were rude, I’d be tempted to strip off my armor and follow them anyway. All the time spouting /me attacking bay, wurm gate

WhiteAndMilky.2514:

Sacrx.6721:

Irony is wasted on the stupid.

Didn’t you quit or something? I thought you went to go play the new Hello Kitty MMO.

Really? When did it launch? I know that we can’t talk about other games here, but I’d love to see it. That would be the second stupid kitten thing I’ve seen today.

Can I be in the category that thinks this obsession with categorizing gamers is counterproductive and silly?

I thought the leveling was fine for my first 7 characters, but I hit a brick wall on my 8th. Can’t seem to make myself do it one more time.

Then again, who needs 8 level 80 characters anyway.

Lothirieth.3408:

skullmount.1758:

Azure Prower.8701:

What happened to soft wood?

I think the OP is referring to when Anet changed it so you need 4 soft wood for a plank instead of the 3 like everything was normally (weapon crafting wise anyways).

When that happened, wasn’t there way too much soft wood and it was very cheap? Looking at gw2spidy, it would seem I’m remembering correctly:

http://www.gw2spidy.com/item/19726

Really, I’m perplexed as to why they’ve not reverted the woods.

But given the current costs of wool, cotton, and linen, I’d highly doubt they’d change it so that bolts need 3 scraps. Those items seem to have plenty of demand and no need of clearing out a surplus.

Rule 1: the road only gets longer, not shorter.

It’s looking more and more like I’m not going to get any ascended armor.

Not the way I did this time. I will absolutely not go out of my way to do it. If it happens, that’s fine. If it doesn’t, that’s fine too. There’s a good chance that I will take a break and finish some other games instead of season two, as I did not care for season one.

warriorjrd.8695:

TooBz.3065:

Sanduskel.1850:

deathTouch.9706:

Being from Mag, I’m glad to see all of the bandwagoners got boned.

Hope the gems were worth it!

I acquired my reward of killing tons and tons of bandwagoners and jumping on their bodies post-mortem. Mission Accomplished Anet.

phys.7689:

One of the main issues in US is server isnt seen as your community by many.

Spoken like someone who’s never been on Mag.

Lol. +15 to this post! The complaining is the best reward of the game.

This is the reason casuals won’t get on teamspeak. Such a nice community.

Or because they are farming the achievements and don’t care about real wvw? Idk about other servers but being from Desolation I am ever so grateful the leagues are over and the pvers went back to their dungeons. Now I can actually play the part of the game I enjoy and don’t have a queued map with 40 people in the jumping puzzle or doing similar things…

I am as happy as anyone that the season is over and I don’t want people in WvW who don’t want to be there. But I also think that being mean and unpleasant is not the best way to encourage people to come into WvW.

Remember PvP? Whenever I’d go there to play people were total kittenheads. Now I suck at PvP, but I’m also a newbie. But I will most likely not play it again because of that.

If new people don’t come into the game, it dies. I don’t want to see that.

Sanduskel.1850:

deathTouch.9706:

Being from Mag, I’m glad to see all of the bandwagoners got boned.

Hope the gems were worth it!

I acquired my reward of killing tons and tons of bandwagoners and jumping on their bodies post-mortem. Mission Accomplished Anet.

phys.7689:

One of the main issues in US is server isnt seen as your community by many.

Spoken like someone who’s never been on Mag.

Lol. +15 to this post! The complaining is the best reward of the game.

This is the reason casuals won’t get on teamspeak. Such a nice community.

Giotto.2607:

where did you guys even see the rewards?????

The European WvW has already cycled and they received their chests.

zenleto.6179:

Luckier than me. I’ve never had a precursor drop.

Or anything worth 35 g

Basket of Boxes.1976:

I am glad the reward sucks, won’t be as much stacking if there is a season 2

Unless they do some serious course corrections, there also won’t be a reason to play in season 2. As much as I love facing Fort Aspenwood every other week. Next time, I’ll just pass.

BAEK.8561:

TooBz.3065:

BAEK.8561:

phys.7689:

BAEK.8561:

Samhayn.2385:

Here’s what I don’t get. Are you people new? WvW has always had less the stellar rewards to investment in it. This should come as a surprise to no one who has actively been doing wvw for any amount of time. I’m more shocked that the chest actually has a decent amount of dragonite in it.

Agreed. If you did WvW for the rewards, then you probably should’ve stuck to PvE

there is no logical reason player versus player shouldnt have decent rewards, and more importantly somethings that you aim for as a competitor

There is a logical reason. The diehard fans of WvW are tired of reward-seeking players who don’t care about WvW objectives taking spots and causing crazy long queues. WvW players want to play with like-minded players and want to play against like-minded players.

If you want rewards, there is a game mode that gives you good rewards: PvE. Stay out of WvW if you don’t intend to WvW

what if I want to WvW AND make progress toward an ascended weapon or legendary?

It’s not as easy as “just make WvW rewards better,” because if you make it too good, then all the PvE players would come and cause crazy queues. If it’s too inferior, then WvW players are forced to PvE here and there to grind ascended gear.

I think the underlying problem isn’t that WvW isn’t rewarding enough, but that grinding gold/mats is required to compete in WvW (due to gear treadmill)

They could have made the reward 10 times as good and NOBODY from PvE would think it was worthwhile. Anyway, my point was I enjoy WvW more than any other part of the game. I also want to get good gear and, from time to time, a skin that doesn’t look like invader armor (ugh!).

Liking rewards doesn’t mean you don’t like WvW.

BAEK.8561:

phys.7689:

BAEK.8561:

Samhayn.2385:

Here’s what I don’t get. Are you people new? WvW has always had less the stellar rewards to investment in it. This should come as a surprise to no one who has actively been doing wvw for any amount of time. I’m more shocked that the chest actually has a decent amount of dragonite in it.

Agreed. If you did WvW for the rewards, then you probably should’ve stuck to PvE

there is no logical reason player versus player shouldnt have decent rewards, and more importantly somethings that you aim for as a competitor

There is a logical reason. The diehard fans of WvW are tired of reward-seeking players who don’t care about WvW objectives taking spots and causing crazy long queues. WvW players want to play with like-minded players and want to play against like-minded players.

If you want rewards, there is a game mode that gives you good rewards: PvE. Stay out of WvW if you don’t intend to WvW

what if I want to WvW AND make progress toward an ascended weapon or legendary?

BAEK.8561:

Fox Soul.4809:

I play for fun, but also i play for rewards.
Tell me if you do a 4 hours event for 5 greens. Fun? Well… maybe, but you gain nothing…

You gain nothing…? Really? You had fun. Is having fun not a reward in itself?

Who taught you that you were entitled to having fun AND being rewarded for having fun??

Had less fun during the league than I had before the league.

arKRazor.8654:

I’ve made constructive comments in other threads only to have them trashed.

Play WvW because you enjoy it, not for some carrot in the distance. I got a title and some extra goodies I wouldn’t have gotten otherwise,

Sure, if you were in the top half of your league. If you were in the bottom half of your league you got to spend seven lovely weeks getting rofl-stomped.

Before,we’d jump around and about 1 in 1 matches were good. 1 in 1 we got stomped. 1 in 1 we stomped. For the season 5 weeks of getting stomped and two of stomping.

If you were at the bottom of your league, it was 7 weeks of crappy matchups for 7 greens.

IceVyper.6810:

I am not acting like it’s universally tasteless and trashy. It is universally tasteless and trashy.

The fact that a female human character has to run around shooting arrows, slashing with daggers or throwing granades while half her underboob is hanging out from her armor, is not only trashy but also degrading to women.

You can always wear a trenchcoat.

Does anyone have a recommendation on how to fix the problem. Here are the constraints I see.

a) more people want to buy gems at 8g for 100 than want to sell 100 gems for 6g. (hence the rising price).
b) ANet needs to make money somehow.
c) ANet wants to provide a means for user’s get use RL $ for in game gold and in game gold for gem store items.
d) Cycles that allow people to earn free gold through the buying and selling of gems should not be allowed. (For example, if I can buy 100 gems for 5g and then sell it for 6g, I make 1g for nothing… not allowed).

How do you recommend we fix the problem. One possibility is to remove the tax make the exchange rates equal. 7g=100 gems and 100 gems = 7g. Would that be sufficient?

Edit: This may not be viable, simply because people may use gems as an inflation hedge, knowing that they can get them back with no loss. Also speculation may cause pretty wide fluctuations in price. But the gap may be narrowed to 15% or 20%.

Zayeban.2806:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Personally I enjoy crafting.

So do I.

I enjoy crafting but I didn’t enjoy crafting up to 500. I found it to be exceptionally tedious. The number of materials you need is crazy high.

The Champ train replaced COF. COF was full of speed runners acting all elitist and special. The champ train is more egalitarian and less prone to elitism in that it requires absolutely no skill and can be done faster.

Deadcell.9052:

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Like this statement here: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by level 80 should have the best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base. The rare stuff becomes the really awesome looking armours. It’s all about collecting the unique looking stuff and collecting all the other rare collectable items in the game: armour pieces, potentially different potions…"

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Please stop quoting this. That statement is obsolete and has been for a long time. This game is not the game described in the quote. Obviously those statements were intentions that were never fulfilled.

Wooden Potatoes

Pandemoniac.4739:

TooBz.3065:

Pandemoniac.4739:

Mahonriancur.9462:

Are there any plans to curve the inflation? Why or Why not? If so, how?

If it gets out of hand it could damage the game quite a bit.

Who says there is any inflation to curb? The exchange rate going up does not necessarily equate to inflation.

What he’s saying is that “inflation” is the wrong term. People on the forums love to disregard your question if you phrase it improperly, it’s easier than thinking.

Actually I was trying to gently nudge to see if inflation was just a poor word choice, not disregard. If I was disregarding I wouldn’t have posted at all.

Using the term inflation improperly is a tactic to make the complaint that the price of some item is too high seem more serious or weighty than it actually is. I think his follow-up statement explains that he did in fact want to use the word inflation, and I don’t see much point in digging up that dead horse and beating it again.

And I managed to get through a whole response without tossing in a snarky comment about any other poster. I am actually quite thoughtful about what I post (most of the time, no-one’s perfect).

The follow-up comment I referred to above.

Mahonriancur.9462:

There is inflation with the price of gems. Monetary values have decreased and the gold is not worth as much as it used to be while the prices of items increases and the value of gems increase. It is this issue that I refer to in the game. It is becoming too expensive to buy anything on the market due to this inflation.

Inflation has ruined many games and I do not want to see it ruin this game.

Sorry. Mia Culpa.

There is a tendency on this forum (especially this sub-forum) to nitpick someone’s argument to death without ever addressing the substance. Most of us don’t have an economics background and as such frequently misuse terms (not maliciously but out of ignorance). People who do understand the correct terms attack the question asked instead of answering the question intended.

I jumped the gun and assumed that’s what you are doing. Which of course, makes me a kitten. I apologize.

I think the fine transmutation stone should use the appearance of the legendary and the stats of the white item and the sigil of the legendary.

At this point is account bound,

When you use the transmutation splitter it will be soul bound to whomever uses the splitter.

Just because I’m a simple guy, I an going to guess that the implementation of the gold / gem conversion is also pretty simple.

The easiest way I can think of doing it is you create a large supply of gems and a large supply of gold and set an initial exchange rate (say 300 gems = 1 gold). You populate the market with 300m gems and 1 m gold (for example).

when someone wants to buy gems 300 gems it costs them 1g + tax, or 1.15 g. when someone wants to sell gems 300 gems gets them 1g – tax (.85g).

From them on, the cost is based on the ratio of the number of gems in the pool to the amount of gold in the pool. So if there are 200m gems, and 2m gold then 100 gems = 1g. If there are 100m gems and 4m gold then 100g = 4 gold etc…

Of course, as the number of gems depletes the cost for gems rises increasingly quickly.

The benefit to this scheme is that the size of the pool determines how elastic the price is. So, if you feel that the gem / gold ratio is spiraling out of control you can just add more gold and more gems at the current ratio to decrease the elasticity. If you feel that the price isn’t moving enough you can decrease the number of gems and gold in the pool (again using the current ratio, so not as to affect the current price).

edit: reading more carefully, I think that this is pretty much what Silmar Alech said above. But I’m not completely sure.

Pandemoniac.4739:

Mahonriancur.9462:

Are there any plans to curve the inflation? Why or Why not? If so, how?

If it gets out of hand it could damage the game quite a bit.

Who says there is any inflation to curb? The exchange rate going up does not necessarily equate to inflation.

What he’s saying is that “inflation” is the wrong term. People on the forums love to disregard your question if you phrase it improperly, it’s easier than thinking.

Inflation is a general increase in prices. What we have there is a decrease in the buying power of gold vis-a-vie gems, but not necessarily across the board.

Starting with the queen’s jubilee ANet made a conscious decision to introduce some inflationary pressures into the world. I suspect this pressure was suppose to be offset by the cost of crafting an ascended gear. If I had to guess, I would suspect that, overall, ascended weapons are not the gold sink they expected. Because people only create one ascended weapon of each type and the onerous crafting to 500 flooded the market with cheap exotics.

Pandemoniac.4739:

Behellagh.1468:

Yoroiookami’s comment was since they can’t afford go by Gems with Gold anymore due to the price then they’ll show ANet by not buying any items from the Gem Shop anymore if they don’t fix the Gold to Gem rate. That’s not a threat if you never bought Gems with cash. While your presence in game (note they didn’t say they would stop playing) is a benefit to ANet because more players in an MMO, more likely another player will stay because they have people to play with/against, it doesn’t pay the bills.

Now Nexon’s quarterly reports they do list what percentage of active players in their FTP games buy something from the cash shop every month and that number is around 10% and Nexon’s annual income is around $1 BILLION (/pinkie) dollars. I image our percentage of cash shop participation has to be higher since there’s a higher barrier to join thus a lower number of players to start with but as long as enough players are buying gems with cash, those that aren’t are simply window dressing for those who do.

(emphasis is mine)

I think we all agree that an empty feeling MMO with long queues in LFG or PvP is going to cause customers to drift away. “Free” players are not window dressing, they are the population that keeps that 10% around to spend their money. Look at the turn around of SWTOR when they moved to a hybrid model. Even with the draconian limitations on non-subscribers, there are tons of free players and when they weren’t there to keep the flashpoint queues and PvP queues and market moving along at a quick pace, there wasn’t as many subscribers to pay the bills and keep the lights on.

I think that the combination of an unfavorable exchange rate and time-limited gem store offerings could frustrate a lot of folks and cause them to look for something else to play. I have burnt myself out on games going after a carrot that I didn’t really HAVE to go after but was dangled so temptingly that I spent some time “working” toward it before I realized I had gotten to the point where logging in was a chore instead of fun. It’s hard to attract folks back after they hit that wall (I will probably never play WoW again, even if it offers a free to play option), so in my opinion, it’s worth taking a long hard look at things that folks are complaining about and see if something needs adjusting.

I’m not advocating mucking about with the gold to gem rate, but I do think there is an issue here and it could eventually impact the game by driving away those folks that you think are “window dressing”. The solution to some folks’ frustration might not have anything at all to do with the exchange rate. The solution might be to add really cool account bound stuff that can only be bought with gold and don’t hide it behind RNG. Yes, there will always be folks that complain loudly and repeatedly, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that all loudly often repeated complaints should be dismissed out of hand.

I agree with this to some extent. Although I think that one the individual level a player who doesn’t buy gems provides another body to populate the world while a player who does buy gems provides another body to populate the world + income to ANet. The only thing that makes players who don’t buy gems so important is the sheer number of them.

I also think that the same thing that keeps the people who dislike VP here will also keep those who are upset that they can’t get as many gems with their gold, specifically, there’s not another game like this available right now.

Gieniusz Krab.8259:

lynx.6302:

i know that in the market the gem prices can change alot.
but the gem prices have gone up too much and too fast.
even if there is a huge discount on the market items, the prices are now around the same as they were a week ago without any discount on it.

i don’t really know how Anet can do anything about this or if they will even try, but i think that alot of players would like the gem prices to have a limit that will stop the price of gems to get higher and the same so they can get too low (this won’t ever happen tho)
at this rate the gems will keep going up and people will have to buy gems with real money to be able to get them without going broke in the game, i think that the gems should be lowered in price in a certain way and i hope that people will support this idea.

still loving the game, and looking forward to new events/content.

Moderator edit: removed CoC infraction

Exactly!

While I understand that you would like your in-game gold to be worth more on the gem store, when I was gearing up my characters, I wished that gems would give more in game gold. This is exactly the kind of problem that an exchange was meant to solve.

The main issue is there is really no need for gold.

The cost of transmutation stone has always made it so that this game encouraged you to pick a single look for your character that may be refined, but certainly isn’t changed regularly. So there’s no reason to buy different skins.

BiS gear is either not available for gold, or prohibitively expensive, so no one creates more than 2-3 sets. Or plays around with more than 2-3 builds. (you may have one toon with condition and power sets, or you may have multiple 2-3 toons with one set each). Once you have yours you are done.

Legendaries could provide a constant need for gold, but they are (at present) gated by the precusor. To even get started you need to spend $100 for the gold, which is too high an entry price. Depending on how the scavenger hunt is set up, it could increase the demand for gold and bring down the exchange rate.

Farming / Dungeon runs provide more than enough gold for everything else.

If there is no reason to buy gold, then, obviously, the demand for gold is less than the demand for gems and the price rises.

tl;dr: Is there is no reason to buy gold, the exchange rate will keep rising.

Server: CD
League: Silver
Enjoyed Season 1: No.
Should we have a Season 2: No.

Reason: WvW use to be my favorite part of the game, now I almost never play. Seven weeks of getting almost continually stomped by servers with more population and better coverage isn’t fun.

If WvW isn’t suppose to be balanced or fair, let’s not dress it up like it is.

I think ANet deserves a little more credit.

I think they expected the community to embrace horizontal progression and instead they got a lot of “there’s nothing to doooooo” whining.

They have, in my opinion, been reeling ever since.