Guild Wars 2

ColinJohanson.2394:

I posted this in another thread, but I’ll copy and paste here. Content like recurring holiday festivals are absolutely part of the long term living world strategy, though the story and some of the content may change each year a bit to provide variety. So the answer is really yes to both, it is living world content, and it could come back again in the future with new rewards.

What is the upcoming celebration and how does it play into everything? You’ll just have to wait and see, we have more Southsun coming first!

Can find the more detailed post on page 1 here ->

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Official-explanation-for-temporary-content/first

Heh, thanks Colin, I guess there’s still a little “getting used to” content being added in this fashion. Halloween, Wintersday… those were expected to continue as traditions of old from the original GW. The concept of new annual content being introduced in this format… from my limited experience you all are the first to do it in this fashion, so forgive the unfamiliarity. But, on that note, I like it. Please keep up the amazing work, it’s honestly and truly appreciated.

Israel.7056:

Ascii.9726:

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You need to motivate your servers community to get into WvW. SoR has an amazing community and we assign every guild we know off to a borderland at reset night (apart from Ace he solos SoR-BL for us).
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But PvE pays better and sPvP/tPvP is more actual pvp against more skilled opponents in a more controlled environment so what do we tell people?

It’s fun. That’s a good place to start.

Note: Traps are relatively expensive. Once that “new item smell” has worn off, you’ll see them used more tactically, learn where they’re more likely to be and adjust accordingly.

What’s with the panic over things we haven’t even had a chance to try in practice? Let’s see how they play out, then see if there are adjustments that make sense to offer to ANet.

LetoII.3782:

Aww that’s cute.
BG says we’re just like them, JQ confirms this as proof <3

Sure, we offered em a small heard of cattle and the hand of our firstborn daughter in matrimony.. Feel better now?
God forbid someone finds a better way to do something! That’s why the turtle is still the dominant meta.

Wait a minute, you offered an audio recording of cows and disfigured your daughters and that got people to join?

We’ve been doing it wrong.

Yes, it’s that time of the year again when spring is in full bloom in the northern hemisphere, cicadas are beginning their 17 years cycle where they emerge from the ground for a few weeks, make noise, hump and die, and Jade Quarry puts out the call to any and all guilds looking for a home in a T1 server with an excellent WvW community, a long history of better than adequate performance, a man named Jed, and other really cool stuff I can’t think of at the moment. Although JQ more often than not shows as “FULL”, there are rare (daily) windows of opportunity (“Very High”) for your guild to come join in on the JQ resurgence as we dust out the cobwebs and prepare to once again engage in some amazing and highly competitive T1 battles! Guilds to help out in the EU and SEA time periods would be lovely, but honestly, everyone is welcome!

Members of Jade Quarry, please contribute to this post adding additional merits of joining with us as well as points of contact for discussions so we can facilitate anyone interested in joining our amazing community. Share a little about your guilds, yourselves, and why you JQ.

Individuals not in guilds looking for an amazing WvW experience are also of course welcome. We’ve a number of great WvW guilds that would love to have you come aboard if you’re interested, or you can do your own thing as one of JQs fearless and tenacious militia.

The sun has not set in the Quarry. We will shine as bright as ever, and you can be a part of that.

Oresh.4729:

jq:15 golds, 13 silvers, 3 bronzes, 1 chocolates medals
sor: 0 golds, 7 silvers, 7 bronzes, maybe 10 chocolates medals
BG: 3 golds, 4 silvers , 9 bronzes, 50 CHOCOLATES MEDALS

who is the king???

edit : now i want candies

While I do appreciate the server pride a lot, we need to keep level heads here. Right now we’re in a bit of a lull. A lot of people are bored with the same old same old. Others have transferred and possibly are looking to transfer for reasons political, they got their feelings hurt or something of the like. But we’ve been knocked down before and bounced back without collapsing and have the people to do so again. So yes, it’s nice to have pride in what we’ve done, but let’s save the braggadocio for when we’ve made our resurgence, and even then let’s keep it to a minimum. We’re better than that.

DevonCarver.5370:

They do less damage to all siege weapons, siege golems included.

So we need twice as many now. Sigh… where’s my hammer…

Three pages and no Akbar? You all are slipping.

It would be funny if they worked on dolyaks delivering supplies…

You know… that big message I got yesterday in these forums that said the date was wrong and it ran until the 14th clued me in…

Well, they moved this from General Discussion to here, so I fear this may be another Living Story temp… unless of course they use the Living Story to introduce what becomes an annual event (Holiday).

I could live with that.

We need traps that hit their weak points for massive damage.

Oh godz… the memes are overtaking me…

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

There will indeed be a new asura gate linking Lion’s Arch to the new resort on Southsun Cove.

I agree that it seems possible to travel to Southsun from other areas when you’re looking at the map, but we’ve never had support for travel to other zones by swimming across the sea. In the context of the game world, I believe there are some pretty nasty things out in the deep water that would make it difficult to swim that far.

Bubbles?

“The Lionguard’s Inspector Kiel has been charged with quelling the violence so it doesn’t interfere with the upcoming Dragon Bash festival in Lion’s Arch.”

What is this “Dragon Bash” festival of which they speak? (And why do images of the Canthan New Year’s festival come to mind…)

Just curious about that… the notes mention the Dragon Bash festival coming to L.A. but this sounds more like an annual event as opposed to a Living Story one… anyone have the skinny on that?

PearlGore.7419:

Regina Buenaobra.6193:

The information that Martin provided after the last quarterly earnings call about this topic hasn’t changed.

Our primary focus as a company is making the core game experience as amazing as possible, through new features, content, and the exciting changes and additions to the world through our Living World releases.

So there are no plans at all for a future expansion? Were confused now.

At the rate we’re getting things added I think we’ll be fine without an expansion for the time being. This isn’t a static world, like WoW for example, where the only you get more content is through expansions.

What does this even mean, can’t move borders?

I play my mesmer extensively, but no on your server which is why you didn’t see me. I’ll tell you what… you and your guild should consider transferring over to Jade Quarry. You’ll see a lot more character diversity there still. Plenty of all professions from what I’ve last seen.

hammer.9721:

Last night around 10pm est i was looking for a server with an open cof and couldnt help but notice jq was at very high.Im not sure if its always at that population at that time slot or if some na people are jumping ship after the recent losses.

Did we drop to Very High?! That’s good news actually, it means we can start the recruitment process again.

LetoII.3782:

VOLKON.1290:

JQ: Moe
BG: Larry
SoR: Curly

Whoopwhoopwhoop
Nyea, wiseguy eh?
So is Dragonbrand Shep? Tune in next week for the continuing saga of “The Curse of the Green Slot”

I’m actually a little afraid to find out how many people simply don’t get that reference.

TyrDaishi.1057:

VOLKON.1290:

Hickeroar.9734:

VOLKON.1290:

Pavel.8531:

Sure, data before panic. We don’t have any reasons to fear the Anet WvW balancing team, right? Right? RIGHT? Look what great job they did with the ACs.

I have been. Been playing extensively with ACs since. We’ve adjusted tactics to account for stronger ACs. Apparently not everyone has figured that out yet though unfortunately.

Player tactics have been easy to change. What’s sucked is the fact that they murder siege so fast. After getting used to the damage increase against players, I don’t mind it.

… Which is why I’ve been seeing a lot more flash built trebs taking out the ACs before the rams get placed.

Because Trebuchets where used to destroy siege weapons in the dark ages right? Dude… Trebuchet shots where no laser-guided missles back then.

Instead of trying to bash people who are not satisfied with the last patches everyone here should focus on the real reason everyone is so upset. The reasons (in my opinion) are:

1. There is no real dialoge between the developers and the community
2. Every great idea that was posted in the forum got ignored (instead we get more stuff noone needs or wants, except a really small minority ofc, because you know there is always someone who defends the bull thats going on)
3. All the big promises that where made turned out to be utterly disappointing.

e.g. culling got fixed, but who would consider GW2 to be the best mmo if some of us can only see green/blue/red basic modells instead of the great art design? Just one example of th many mistakes that where made. Not even speaking about the skillags here.

So I repeat myself: Instead of bashing each other about one (ok but major) change in the game we should try to convince the employees from anet to be reasonable and meet the costumers demands.

Don’t go and try getting “dark ages” on me. In the “dark ages” they didn’t have elementalists raining meteor showers on the walls to clear the defenses so a ram could walk up to the gate and break it open. In the “dark ages” sieges took weeks or months and starvation and disease were major weapons. Trebuchets often threw rotting corpses and carcasses over the wall to spread disease. Using the dark ages as an excuse. Please.

No, we should not try to convince ANet to “be reasonable and meet the customers demands”. First off, simply put, it’s their game. Second, not all customers are making these demands, and they’re certainly not reasonable in the opinion of some. What, should ANet be forced to try and meet the demand of every kitten customer out there? Ridiculous.

I get a kick out of the “every great idea was ignored” line. Great to who? You? Who are you to decide what I or ANet should consider great? You’re nothing more than a faceless opinion typed out on a forum on the internet, as am I. ANet is the actual company that contains the creative minds presenting this game we’re playing. Great ideas, and whether or not they can actually be implemented without damaging the game or their visions of the game should be determined by them, not us. We can offer opinions and hope to influence something, but demands? Sheesh.

But, I guess today’s the day we’ll find out what they did. Hopefully Devon chose to use a scalpel rather than a sledge hammer with regards to changes, for in my opinion and that of many the AC changes are fine as they are. The game’s adapting to the changes just fine. Well… most people it seems.

JQ: Moe
BG: Larry
SoR: Curly

Slamz.5376:

I don’t see why anyone wants to change arrowcarts.

I’m actually enjoying having to THINK again. Now we have to do sneaky things like distract in one area and speedbuild in another to counter defensive arrow carts. And zergballing doors almost never works anymore — even one guy on an arrow cart is a threat now.

Arrow cart nerfs will just be a return to zergballing. “We hate zergballs, fix it, ANet! Wait! Now we can’t zergball! We want zergballs back!”

ANet just needs to pick a side to support. Are they pro-zergball or pro-strategy?

Can’t be both.

Finally, someone gets it.

Aarean.5398:

Hope some guilds after a real challenge go to jq and keep the server going. Would be quite difficult fighting the numbers currently running in t1.

For some reason (casts a conspiratorial glare at ANet) JQ is locked in a “FULL” state now, even with the transfers we’ve had off. Used to be there were times of the day it would fall to “Very High”, but something changed.

(BG is also apparently “FULL” locked, but they’ve had an influx compared to JQ having had some players leave.)

It would be horrible if things were being tweaked behind the scenes like that. ANet did say they were working on ways to shake things up, so I just may need my first roll of tin-foil.

Hickeroar.9734:

VOLKON.1290:

Pavel.8531:

Sure, data before panic. We don’t have any reasons to fear the Anet WvW balancing team, right? Right? RIGHT? Look what great job they did with the ACs.

I have been. Been playing extensively with ACs since. We’ve adjusted tactics to account for stronger ACs. Apparently not everyone has figured that out yet though unfortunately.

Player tactics have been easy to change. What’s sucked is the fact that they murder siege so fast. After getting used to the damage increase against players, I don’t mind it.

… Which is why I’ve been seeing a lot more flash built trebs taking out the ACs before the rams get placed.

Korsbaek.9803:

i dare you to mention the othere counters to stealth then the AC i dare you

aoeing randomly is not a stealth counter

It is if you’re smart enough. I see where he stealthed and make an informed decision where to drop an AoE. So you’re right there… random may not be good enough. There are also necro fields, ranger traps, etc. Hell, I’ve even used mesmer GS5 to expose more than one stealthed thief. That’s actually quite funny when they stealth between you and a cliff… hit 5, wait, loot bag appears at your feet.

Stealth is also short duration. Sometimes patience is enough.

Pavel.8531:

Sure, data before panic. We don’t have any reasons to fear the Anet WvW balancing team, right? Right? RIGHT? Look what great job they did with the ACs.

I have been. Been playing extensively with ACs since. We’ve adjusted tactics to account for stronger ACs. Apparently not everyone has figured that out yet though unfortunately.

Jski.6180:

Entropy.4732:

King Amadaeus.8619:

AC Wars 2 continues, expansion Trap Wars incoming….

Seriously. I’m a tad nervous about traps.

Its going to be a great way to stop all supplies to a keep or tower and “starve” them out. Its been a bit too easy to flash build during an attk even if the keep or tower was out of supplies you would just have ppl come in from other maps they have with 10+ supplies to save the day. Also must we add Something Wars 2 every time we find that its being used? Should just call it dodges wars 2 becuse every one dodges and can!

That’s a little presumptuous, no? We have no idea the strength of traps, the cost of traps (you buy at a vendor, remember?), the diameter of area covered, how long they last, nothing at all. They could affect a single target for all we know and be costly enough to not be worth is excepting unique circumstances. Data before panic please.

Burl.9567:

Jedbacca.6297:

As for any rumors to [SF] moving off of Jade Quarry, apprently i had a couple of my members go full troll yesterday and state that we were moving to BG. I’ll say well played… and thanks for those members getting me a lot of PM’s… You’re “bag of fun” is waiting on the SF forums. We are not moving from JQ and I had already announced internally to the guild and the JQ community than to go through another server transfer, I’d rather let guildies choose where they would want to go and stay in line to what their personal goals for in game are. Mine are to stay on one server, ride it out, and do whatever the hell it is that I do in this game when I play it. This is a personal choice and since I’m the GM, I guess that keeps the official team located in JQ. Kind of like a dictatorship…but only a Jedtatorship… MmmmMMMmmm tators….with cat sup..ketchup…catsup…..

I was under the impression TW was meeting up with SF on DB so we could all hang with RE? So many acronyms…

If you all did, you could take all the four guilds, mix the tags and wind up with a joint guild called BREWS [FTD]. (For The Drunk)

Oozo.7856:

Traps are most likely going to be some clunky item that you have to use from inventory. What was needed at the development stage was a class with an anti-stealth ability, such as the hunter’s flare from WoW. Or the Trooper’s, Bounty Hunters stealth scan from SWTOR.

Horrible fail on ANET’s part with regards to stealth.

Here is an example of getting it right with respect to stealth. There should always be a class with an ability that directly counters stealth if you are going to put stealth in your game at all.

Well that’s an incredibly bad idea. The moment you have a profession designed to counter stealth is the moment you have a profession pigeon-holed into a single role no matter what the player wants to do.

Now, actually, there are means to counter stealth. ANet has already added an additional means for every profession with the final AC upgrade, although that’s a bit expensive.

King Amadaeus.8619:

AC Wars 2 continues, expansion Trap Wars incoming….

Updated: Arrowcarts can be modified to shoot traps.

Let’s just call it a zerlob. We all know what we’re talking about and the world could use a new word.

Kopipoki.3542:

WatchTheShow.7203:

I like Arenanet’s quick patches. Coming from Nexon games myself, Nexon would always put out a notice for a 1-5 hour maintenence and close down their game. Then after 5 hours, the game still wouldn’t start. 10 minutes after the maintenence was supposed to end, Nexon would put up a new announcement saying the maintenence has been extended for 1 hour. Then an hour later, they would extend it for another hour, and another, and another, and another. The longest time they’ve ever stringed us along like that was 48 hours. They had posted some 30 announcements saying “1 more hour.” It was terrible. I’ll take Anet any day over Nexon.

You do realize that Nexon is the largest shareholder of NCsoft right? They even forced Anet to hire Ex-Nexon employees.

An assertion like this demands evidence.

Aneu.1748:

The fact remains that siege is now defending a keep and not players! Previously it took co-ordinated defenders who knew what to do in order for a keep to not flip, it required both siege and players to fight off the attackers, now I could quite easily stick a dribbling idiot on an Arrowcart and it can turn most forces away and if one isnt enough I can build 12 on a single gate due to the increase in range also increasing the amount of AC’s that can hit a single gate! To anyone with a modicum of balance and sense this is obviously not following what the original concept of WvW was meant to be and it isnt one I or many others wish to be part of – Let us actually fight each other rather than blueball all the time.

Yes, siege attacks a keep, siege defends a keep. You’re supposed to have the advantage as a defender. You’re also supposed to be smart enough to realize that you need to take out the enemy siege before you go and smear your lip gloss on the gate. One flash built treb with an accurate gunner can completely violate those 12 ACs of which you speak and they can do very little about it. Adapt your tactics a little.

Now, let’s address if this is in line with the concept of WvW as presented to us…

“Players can band together to lay siege to castles, raid enemy supply caravans, clash with other players in truly massive battles, wreak havoc behind enemy lines, or build mighty weapons of war like trebuchets and siege golems.”

Lay siege, check. Raid caravans, check. Massive battles, oh yeah. Mighty weapons of war… still there. Please, don’t go trying to assert that what you want WvW to be is what WvW was intended to be or what everyone else wants it to be. It doesn’t matter who you are, you’re not that good. (That applies to everyone, not only you. Myself included.)

You don’t like it. I do. This weekend BG was holding Hills with walls and gates down, SoR in from the south, JQ in from the north, and they held out for hours on end because they were able to mount some crazy kitten defense. Many of us on TS in JQ admittedly were having a blast even though we were getting repulsed far too often. Of course, we had less than kind words for SoR who would take down the siege we built to take down the siege BG built, but that’s another story.

Only a WvW player knows the difference between someone that has a pin and someone that should have a pin.

Aneu.1748:

VOLKON.1290:

DevonCarver.5370:

WvW Match resets are not the same thing as new builds. We’ll have some updates to arrow carts to share with you when the next build comes through.

I hope you didn’t go overboard. Reality is showing the meta adjusting quite well to the changes. Tactics are adapting, people are taking time to do one of two things:

1. Clear the siege before you knock on the door -or-
2. Come to the forums and complain.

Towers are still flipping, keeps are still flipping. It’s not nearly as problematic as those who would refuse to adapt are going on about.

Adapting to a boredom inducing meta is not something many people wish to do, if you want to sit around and build siege all day but some of us would rather play the character we have made in order to kill others not man arrow-carts to do it – what change does it make to you if AC’s see a damage reduction? You can still build siege! but the point is those of us who want to fight others in an actual battle can’t get to do this at the moment either because people run to sit on siege or peeling a keep off a zerg has now become ridiculous ending up in Treb v Treb v Treb v Treb – fun, right?

So you’re complaining that you went to siege a keep and a siege happened?

DevonCarver.5370:

WvW Match resets are not the same thing as new builds. We’ll have some updates to arrow carts to share with you when the next build comes through.

I hope you didn’t go overboard. Reality is showing the meta adjusting quite well to the changes. Tactics are adapting, people are taking time to do one of two things:

1. Clear the siege before you knock on the door -or-
2. Come to the forums and complain.

Towers are still flipping, keeps are still flipping. It’s not nearly as problematic as those who would refuse to adapt are going on about.

Pod.2769:

It’s not just T1 that has seen the meta change. I play on a T8 server, we don’t have large numbers to play with. It’s basically become a “Hey they are attacking ET, lets try and take a fortified tower while they are gone.” Then as our massive 20 man zerg PvD’s while we frantically lookout for people trying to get in, cries of “Don’t let anyone in!” echo out of our TS.

The gate is down to 30%

One guy gets through, grabs an AC. “Ok lets leave and grab a camp.”

Yay… fun.

Imagine doing something crazy, something really outside the box, like, oh… I don’t know… maybe destroying the siege inside before you knock on the door? An AC or two of your own, maybe a trebuchet even can do wonders with regards to clearing the way.

Tarin Twisted.4183:

…

P.S. Please fix arrow cats so I have interest in playing WvW again ANET.

Arrow cats? I want a bow that shoots those.

I don’t think of it as killing them twice. Instead I see it as more getting through a tough exoskeleton before you can get to the slightly less tough endoexoskeleton. I do like how their abilities change a bit once you’re through the extra-crunchy outer shell.

Arrowcarts are fine. It’s the people that haven’t adapted yet that are the problem.

urek mazino.4026:

VOLKON.1290:

spanky.4630:

To all the players on jq . Thank you for your kind welcome im sorry iron didn’t chose jq .It was a hard choice for Iron but I think we did the right thing in the end. I am on jq until Wednesday but I will not wvw . So please don’t flame me as a spy, iron do not work that way
To all the people that have sent me pm`s I only just read them and there’s far too many to reply to sorry
see you out there .

What server did IRON transfer to again? All I’ve seen is them fighting for BG, so it’s a bit confusing. Could also be too much blood in my caffeine, I don’t know.

caffeine in my blood, not the other way around. you cant even type straight anymore :P

i thought you were better than that….

score update with IRON commander in BG BL 2v1ing BG

No, had it right the first time.

spanky.4630:

To all the players on jq . Thank you for your kind welcome im sorry iron didn’t chose jq .It was a hard choice for Iron but I think we did the right thing in the end. I am on jq until Wednesday but I will not wvw . So please don’t flame me as a spy, iron do not work that way
To all the people that have sent me pm`s I only just read them and there’s far too many to reply to sorry
see you out there .

What server did IRON transfer to again? All I’ve seen is them fighting for BG, so it’s a bit confusing. Could also be too much blood in my caffeine, I don’t know.

UnrepentantProcrastinator.7420:

VOLKON.1290:

OK, BG, SoR, absolutely pathetic performance tonight by you two on BGBL. You’re not even trying to hide the fact that you’re both working together and we still managed to hold our own. You should be embarrassed. We may not take first, but at least we can have pride in how we’re fighting.

If we were, you wouldn’t be ticking any more than BG was last week on reset. So clearly you’re mistaken.

Heh, no, not mistaken. The stack of badges in my inventory tells why we’re still ticking fairly well. When we’re trebbing inner Bay (help by SoR) and BG sends the zerg to take out our treb then leave… that’s a little obvious. When not one structure other than Briar and Bay get attacked the entire evening (save a couple camps), that’s obvious. But that’s ok, live in denial if you wish. The respect I had for your two servers and what you’ve accomplished in T1, that’s lost. Not that you’re capable of caring.

Wow, a lot of effort in this thread starting up to attempt to cause internal strife on JQ. It would be impressive if it wasn’t so obvious.

Titan.3472:

People are talking about these coming up soon guilds transfer from JQ that have been bought… just saying.

Any mention of the ones coming back to JQ, or is that not “out there” yet?

The best part was when I saw someone else go into the “fall loop”. They’d fall, hit the ground, teleport back up and repeat. It’s funny when it happens to someone else.

Hickeroar.9734:

VOLKON.1290:

Killtrox.2019:

I posted a troll post on the T1 matchup, throwing a little trash talk in there to spice up the matchup, to make the zerg v zerging more personal, and funner (funner is a word). Some people took it wayyyyyy too serious. Like I said, I’m use to T2 thread where they trash talk back and it’s all fun and games. But T1 takes everything a bit more seriously. Couple guilds in BG don’t think I should be commanding because of my behavior on the forums. It seems to give BG a bad name I suppose. Therefore, to keep the drama to a minimum, I’m stepping down to please everyone.

The last thing T1 needs is more trolling. Things are personal and serious enough without it being pushed overboard. Even if the intent was meant to be light-hearted.

Thinking of trolls, look who just arrived!

It’s a forum. People troll. If you take it seriously or personally, you’re juvenile.

What, me troll? I <sputter> never!

Hey, you used the correct “you’re”. Well played.

Hang on…
Note to Self: On the mainframe, a FOR loop works fine. FIR loop… not so much.

Killtrox.2019:

I posted a troll post on the T1 matchup, throwing a little trash talk in there to spice up the matchup, to make the zerg v zerging more personal, and funner (funner is a word). Some people took it wayyyyyy too serious. Like I said, I’m use to T2 thread where they trash talk back and it’s all fun and games. But T1 takes everything a bit more seriously. Couple guilds in BG don’t think I should be commanding because of my behavior on the forums. It seems to give BG a bad name I suppose. Therefore, to keep the drama to a minimum, I’m stepping down to please everyone.

The last thing T1 needs is more trolling. Things are personal and serious enough without it being pushed overboard. Even if the intent was meant to be light-hearted.

Titan.3472:

As I heard DB gathered enough funds to promote 3 JQ wvw dedicated guilds transfers ^^
*Spoiler alert*
“To the few JQ guilds that accepted to transfer over DB you’ll receive your 10k gold once you reached 150 of your members over there.”
May be it’s true who knows

Really, they’d make them pay with their own gold in advance on the promise that they’ll get the gold back? What kind of scam that would be… sure buddy, we’ll give you 10K gold after you have your people here, and 150 of them at that!

Skepticism meter spiking…

CuddleStrike.8215:

VOLKON.1290:

CuddleStrike.8215:

btowl.7869:

VOLKON.1290:

CuddleStrike.8215:

VOLKON.1290:

Reslinal.2359:

Chris.3290:

Congrats on a fine victory BG, but you guys need to reign in RISE on the forums. They’ve been there 2 weeks and they are acting like they are the sole reason you are winning.
I’m sure they are pumped to be a part of the push that is putting you guys over the top, but they are accounting for 90% of the BG chest pounding in this thread.

RISE is a fine addition to BG and they have worked hard for the past two weeks. Without the great effort from them and other ex-KN guilds, BG would never achieved what we achieved today. I think you guys are being overly harsh on RISE just because they were a little bit too excited on the forum. Above all they are still new to the tier and don’t have the full grasp of the etiquettes and love hate relationship between the three servers yet.

Just make sure you all let RISE know that you owe them everything, for you’d be still wallowing in second and third place without them. Guilds that powerful should be deferred to when it comes to who does what weekly, which maps they get, etc. It might even be nice of you all to slip them some free siege equipment to facilitate their ability to carry you all over the top. It’s obvious that BG is on the RISE.

Why so troll? Going to break my poor asuras heart! cries

Too late to apologiiiiiize….it’s to laaaaaatttte!

Why? WHY!

I’ll tell you why!

Because not once, NOT ONCE, have I had the opportunity to appear in a score update photo. NOT ONCE! It’s an… it’s an outrage. Of course, me being at work this time of day could have something to do with it, but it’s still INEXCUSABLE! Or something like that. I tried so hard and got so far, but in the end, it doesn’t even matter!

You’re weepy, Volkon, go home! And start drinking when you get there!

I agre with the drinking but he no crying!

Also! Maybe you shoud message me! This is crazy! But pm me maybe?

Won’t be home for another… three or so hours. I’ll try then… my 15 seconds of fame may come true!

Unless I get ganked…

Lol I’ll be working again in a few hours. ….. so try in 7 or so hours :P

You know… we should get your guild to transfer to JQ so this will be easier.