Guild Wars 2

if u could attack them from the water golems would be perfect for it

so i’m sure there r a lot of you out there that r fighting a battle and have a guildy that want to join yet the q is full yet there isn’t even close to enough to fill the que. Is it a que bug? Was i misinformed of the cap per team (was told 166 per map). i check all the event area and nothing. check the jumping puzzle and nothing. which brings me to my next issue. REMOVE THE JUMPING PUZZLES. all they do is take up slots so people that want to help the wvw effort can’t get in. If anyone want to use the argument that badges are needed for legendaries, then i have this to say. if wvw players have to do pve for them, then pve players should have to do wvw. and on the badges topic i think they should no longer be rewards for kills. they should be gotten from events and not the stupid events like killing mosquito (which should also be removed). there is no need for pve in wvw they have DOZENS of maps for that. us wvw players only have 4 map so let US get into them and play instead of the people u just go in for pve stuff.

for me this works better than before as i can see the enemy. my allies show on the mini map anyways

So i have been thinking a lot about wvw and how it could be changed and i came up with something. some will like other will hate it and probably none of it will get used by anet :P

THE PLAN:
The main thing i would do i instead of having 4 maps i would have one super sized map. I would put EB in the center and then have the borderlands branch off from there with 2-3 paths between EB and each homeland. That is the basis for my whole concept. With a cap of 500 per server things could get crazy.

Now some of u are saying “this will just become more of a zerg fest”. Well if left to just putting all 4 maps together u would be right. so lets look at options to change that.

CHANGES:
some mechanics would have to be changed. One would be that you couldn’t build a way point any further than SMC in EB. This will make it much more difficult to push someone else lands. Another would be to give a team a stat bonus in it own lands depending on how much of it they don’t own.

So now things will get tricky with what options would be best so i will have multiple branches.

1. Impassable forts or dependable choke points
On the paths to each of the borderlands there would be either a fort that MUST be taken for an attacker to past on to the home lands or a choke point that can be heavily defended. I like the fort idea better as it give the attackers a base of operation that is the most important point for the attack to succeed. Now there would be places that the home world could always pass through now matter who controlled the forts. Something like what is in SMC walls. These would not grant access to the forts, just EB.

So now we need a way to keep people from just sitting in thier homelands and never attacking.This can be done to ways. Either make it so it doesn’t matter what rank the server is in the tier or make the EB points worth more. Or perhaps even a combination of the 2.

Ok so now people have incentive to attack but what makes them have to even worry about their home land? Why not just keep 30 people at each fort or choke point to keep everyone out. This could be done in multiple ways but the best way i can think of is to have a NPC controlled “4th server”. They will have no homeland but instead will have basses that can be neutralized for a time. These NPCs basses will send attack waves that can become stronger based on the tier. The lowest tier could have nothing more than 5-8 npcs that have the ability to take only unupgraded and undefended supply camps all the way to the top tier that can have the ability to send waves 20-30 veterans with champions that can build siege and take and defend forts and even keeps. There would be 2 or 3 npc basses to deal with. 2 would be in place of the skrits and centaurs, and the 3rd if it were there could be in the center below the south supply camp. These npcs would not attack if an invading force had at least 25 points in a borderland (5 camps/2 forts 1 camp/1 keeps). Also the npcs would stop attacking if they aquired a certain amount of point value of their own(this amount would vary with tier form perhaps only 10 to as much as 50. The npcs would not abandon what they had but would simply launch now more attacks once the point value had been reached until the value dropped below the threshold. This means that on the lower tiers it would take little to nothing to defend the homelands but the top tiers would have to leave a good chuck behind to deal with the npcs.

or the other option

2. extra maps that r 1v1 or 1v1v1
this option give a lot to the imagination so i will just focus on what i think would work. Add 3 extra 1v1 maps that can either be separate maps all together or added into the already enormous one (they would sit around the edge of EB between the homelands). If u added them to get her they would not be truly 1v1 but it would be difficult for the 3rd team to gain groud there as it would be far from their lands. Each of these maps would have 3 paths into them that r guarded but not completely block by a fort (one path form each borderland on either side and one form EB). In the middle of each of these would be a keep and it would aslo contain one supply camp. If that map was separate all together it would have 1 keep 4 fort and 2 camps. The cap could 50 or so per team. As i said u could also make more 1v1v1 maps too and they would have to be separate.

Perhaps a even more intriguing idea is that u could put these both together making for what couple be some of the most epic showdowns ever.

So there it is , wvw if i was in charge. If u have other ideas it would be awesome to hear them. Who know maybe anet will read someones post and say “hey that’s a great idea”

naphack.9346:

Btw I really wanna see a team “fake portal bomb”.
So you bust in a portal in the middle of their formation, they all go “oh shi-” and spam their rings of warding, feedback bubbles, wells, meteor showers, frost fields and marks on it…
…And then the opponent simply runs in from the flank and all the nice AoE stuff is on cooldown.

this happens already

Decklan.7540:

I love all the people missing the point here.
I don’t care about winning or losing I care about having fun and trying to introduce new people into world vs world. Portal is the number one detriment to this exercise.

This isn’t about l2p. It’s far easier to coordinate 20 people to click on a button then organize your group to defend against 20 people, 15 of which are culling in, with all these theories and battle plans. In war, he who strikes first usually wins. And by usually I mean 90 percent of the time. It’s why you are seeing so much of it now a days. Why do something different when you have an at will ace in the sleeve.

Someone here said that 9 out of 10 times portal bomb wins. Then goes ahead and says one group will wipe em with a smiley face. Well grats. If you expand those numbers to say 100, you just proved that 90 people will get frustrated wiping to portal bombs while your elite group of 10 stays and wipes em. So now 90 people are just gonna go back to fractal farming and your 10 man group is gonna stay behind.

My point remains. 1 more month of portal bombing and you will start to see the most epic fight at stonemist be a 10v10 portal match with another server hiding a mesmer inside to try and portal inside and wipe up the scraps. We could release youtube videos! If you’re bored you can go hunt the deers. Might as well stick a heart npc in the middle of the keeps. You guys can portal up and down the map all day and farm karma.

if this is how u feel i don’t think u have fought much with top servers. they will make 50 man portal bombs only to be themselves portal bombed by the people they r attacking. for the most part the top tiers do not complain about protal bombs becasue they r watching and expecting them. portal bomb is for the most part an “elite tactic” which can make it very strong in the lower tiers. in top 3 ? not so much. I personally will be upset if they nerf it

Snowgoons.6349:

why exactly would someone only pve anyways? i don’t even understand people that only pvp/wvw. why would you NOT want to experience 100% of the game? i guess the same reason why people drop $59.99 on call of duty every year and rush to only play a subpar online fps experience :/

i do 90% wvw cause thats what i enjoy more. i do pve when i’m bored but i don’t have enough time to get all the cool pve stuff after i get my wvw fix

i would love a progress bar for something other than kills. it will make people less blood thirsty and they might actually (gasp) learn how to play wvw

yes accounts. and 30 people doing it would make the differences between winning and loosing

jp is not wvw -_-. that being said i don’t have a problem with people doing them as it is part of the game. i ask only 3 things.

1. try to do it in non peak hrs
2. once u do the jp leave so other people can get in the borderlands
3. i know u like to do stuff with ur guild but it is really annoying to have 40 people in the jp when u r getting destroyed because of a que and the wvw players can’t get in can’t get in so please don’t do it all to once

the reason pve players got their update first is because they whine more than us

portal is not the root of cullin issue stealth is. i have never had problem with a portal causing it. only time i could say way something even close to that was when 100 people way pointed in SM on top of us when we already had 60 people in there but i would expect 160 people in one spot to cause some issues

so i have heard of people with alts transferring them to another server and entering a borderlands then doing nothing but moving enough to keep from being kicked. We were defending the other night with at best 60 people and still had a full que. It made it almost impossible to stop both servers that were attacking us with 80+ people. Checked the jumping puzzle and found no one. We have no idea where they were, not sure if it was a que glitch or there actually were people doing this

Occam.9841:

Maniac,
It sucks that someone is doing that.

I play on Tarnished Coast and in my experience the vast majority of WvW’ers there would rather have a good fight than have an unfair advantage.

I am not in any guilds but my suggestion would be to try to contact one of the TC guild leaders if you are hampered by a siege cap. You could probably arrange to have TC take whatever tower or keep is packed with garbage siege, destroy the siege, and then let FA take the keep back.

The 2 guilds I see on regularly that take leadership roles and that I would trust to make such an arrangement are [TV] and [PINK].

on a non reenforced keep that would be a good plan but the problem comes with the randoms. the people that we have no control over and do as they please. they will not simply give up the keep.

Yak’s Bend would be happy to have you. We have a good core group of guilds that work well together. We are in tier 3 and we hold our own despite being out maned. We can mount very strong defense with what we have and are just lacking the man power we need to attack the other servers.

just got it. ty anet for fixing my account

now my client say my account name does not exsist

i can’t c any common factor here. have seen west coast, east coast, Canada, and even saw a guy from a euro server posted the same issue

heard from anet and they said it should be taken car of but alsas it is not

well changing ur password doesn’t work

anyone fb them yet?

having same issue. New York state, yaks server