Guild Wars 2

So Ur gonna forced people who play together on a server to split up because they play at times when few others do? That’s really not fair. And its not even about night capping. Asanan example let take AG and BB on the euro side. BB has a very large afternoon and evening presence where s AG has a very large night and late night presence. This would mean that they would both have problems playing when they can play with people they enjoy playing with. To be honest the biggest problem with wvw is the separation of euro and NA server. If there was no split there would be better coverage around the clock for most servers

Aeonblade.8709:

RyuDragnier.9476:

Make it so that they have to be voted on by the server itself while in WvW. I know, it can be abused, but still…everybody who plays and knows the good commanders would vote them immediately.

To expand upon this, have a poll type screen in-game on server reset days, say for 4 or 5 hours. During that time, people vote on 5 or so people to be commanders that week, and one high commander. Give the high commander more tools, like being able to set waypoints on the map everyone can see, and maybe a special on screen raid warning type chat commands as well to help lead during those big 50v50 battles.

Just an idea, not sure how I feel about it yet as it just hit me.

I like the idea of voting system for people to be able to see how well liked a commander is but to see who can use it for the week isn’t a good set up. Small guild commander would almost never be picked for one and by my math u would need at least 12 commanders. That 3 commanders per map with each doing an 8 hr shift to get 24 hr coverage

Best advise I can give is to run small camp capping group for a while. If you feel confident commanding them then you can move up to a bigger group

Badges are still a poor way the get commanders as all it show is that you have a lot of kill and might not know much about attacking and defending. Plus it hinders those who run supper builds and don’t get badges. Regardless it would be better than 100g

Or the ability to force respwan a dead enemy

I agree that we should be able to get gold faster in wvw or give us some type of other currency that we can get the good stuff with. As for achievements I don’t really care to much about them.

Heibi.4251:

Valik Shin.9027:

I don’t play a thief nor have I ever played one. I dislike the play style greatly. I my opinion they are not overpowered. They are good at 1v1 and getting way. Either use cc with allies to stop them or run a good solo class urself. Stop complaining

I’m not talking about thieves. I’m saying that mesmers are overpowered. And I’ve offered some possible solutions. You are not being constructive in your comment. If you weren’t referring to my posts I apologize. If you were, you may want to look at my original post – thieves were not mentioned.

I apologise to you. I see anything about stealth and think its another complaint about thiefs

deracs.1762:

Straegen.2938:

Its called WORLD completion which implies the entire world of GW2. Also this is a legendary feat which implies it should be difficult and challenging.

If this was the case it should include all dungeons and all sPvP maps. Of course it doesnt. if you are stuck in an undermanned WvW server you will likely wait months now for a chance at map completion, and personally I think that is wrong

Well I think it wrong that pve players get all the good skins and loot drops and leech off from the world bonuses we give you by doing well in wvw. So you can just deal

I don’t play a thief nor have I ever played one. I dislike the play style greatly. I my opinion they are not overpowered. They are good at 1v1 and getting way. Either use cc with allies to stop them or run a good solo class urself. Stop complaining

If you get 3 really even server in the same tier its very tough to move out

manbearpig.8095:

this is why i love a full support staff necro turn conditions into boons place conditions on friendlies back onto the enemies and make my own bleeds and poisons at the same time <3 so much damage and support

While necros don’t have quite the support that warriors and guardians have they still have some good stuff. They also deal way more damage

kokocabana.8153:

Valik Shin.9027:

Also if you think most wvw players put out support buffs that r worth anything then you r mistaken

I said every player can buff themselves. Anything you throw out that affects others is a bonus and no player should be relying on someone else’s buffs to survive.

The benefit on having a support player is that instead of everyone needing to spec some self survival they can go full dps. Most supports are tanks anyways so they will die last as it is. It provides for higher group dps

kokocabana.8153:

I don’t play a warrior so I only have the wiki to see how banners work. They seem to apply buffs even when you’re not holding them. Also the skills you get when holding are attacks. I don’t really see what stopping you from attacking.

Banners also grant health regen if Ur speced into them. To fully spec healing banners means u have to have a what is almost a tank spec with very little damage abilities. Also skill 2 on healing banner is a nice Aoe heal

And to add another point. I have seen many times that when we wipe a couple times and me and another guild mate go full support we wipe much less. So I ask you, if I keep people alive so they can kill other people how am I not being just as useful as them?

Also if you think most wvw players put out support buffs that r worth anything then you r mistaken

kokocabana.8153:

Everyone is able to buff/heal themselves. The only difference between you and everyone else is that they are also fighting to defend. If you are only supporting and not fighting while others are doing both, then why should you be getting full reward if you are not fully helping to defend?

How am I suppose to attack when I’m holding a banner so I can use the skills on it and so that if we move the banner moves with us?

I run banner warrior sometimes so I feel Ur pain.

People running mass Aoe builds that do nothing but zerg v zerg will get tons of kills

i really don’t want people in wvw for loot. bring too many pve players

Olujiwan Risengard.8721:

Valik Shin.9027:

SilencedScream.2167:

I think drop rate should increase a bit, but not necessarily badges. Badges are fairly easy to come by, I feel, and like others have said, if you want an increase, use AoE.

You can specialize and get a high-spike, low reward…
Or you can support, do a lower amount of damage to a higher amount of enemies for a higher reward.

You get to choose the specs, so I won’t fault ANet for it. :/

Or you can go full support to help Ur team win and get almost zero rewards

Full support guardian here. I get my 121 slot inventory filled at least once an hour.
I have made around 1200 badges in the past 4 days.

All you have to do, in order to get a lootbag:

Hit the person. Just once. For a guardian that might be easier (due to the staff AoE), but overall, everyone should be able to hit people with AoE’s.

support warrior, took me 2 months of 30+ hrs a week of wvw to get 1200 badges. don’t even attack most fights just spam skill 2 on heal banner. 10/0/30/30/0 build doesn’t do much damage anyways

note: (It not show up like i want it to just ask question if it doesn’t make sense to you)

I think people should be rewarded for winning wvw and not just capping things as fast as possible so i have come up with a new reward system that i believe could help accomplish this.

I will give you an example of how it would work (I’m am using these numbers for simplicity and i realize actual scores and such would be higher):

Score———base reward——-#of players—-placement bonus—total reward
Team 1. 250————-1000———————100———————-1st: 10%——————1500
Team 2. 200————-1000———————150———————-2nd: 5%——————-700
Team 3. 150————-1000———————- 50———————-3rd: 0%———————1500

as you can see everyone starts with same base reward and then score,#of players, and placement effect the toatal rewards.

Score:
THis is the simplest one to work with. Each team will have a certain amount of points. You add up the totals for each team then divide by 3 to get the average. the you take each teams total and divide by the average.
example:
250+200+150=600 600/3=200
team 1. 250/200= 1.250 1.250 × 1000=1250
team 2. 200/200= 1.000 1.000 × 1000=1000
team 3. 150/200= .750 0.750 × 1000= 750

#of players:
This will be the number of players that have contributed to wvw. there would either have to be a minimum amount of contribution or some sort of % based on how much each person did. Once again you would add the 3 teams totals and average. However, this time you will divide the average by the total.
example:
100+150+50=300 300/3=100
team 1. 100/100= 1 1250x 1 =1250
team 2. 100/150= .666 1000×.666= 666
team 3. 100/ 50= 2 750 x 2 =1500

Placement bonus:
This is simply who takes first, second, and third

team 1. 1250+10%=1500
team 2. 666+ 5%= 700
team 3. 1500+0% = 1500

as you can see team 2 got by far the least point. this is because they were unable to beat team 1 despite having 50% more players. Team 3 got just as many points as team 1 despite finishing last because it was able to get as many points as it did because it was vastly outnumbered by the other 2 teams.

The biggest issue i can see is try to figure out what counts as a person that contributed to the server. I think the best way to do this is the give a person a % of a whole based on how much they do. This number would also be used to boost the individuals rewards. There could be any number of levels of contribution.
example:
base reward: 1000
————————total rewards
level 1. 10% 100
level 2. 20% 200
level 3. 30% 300
and so on till
level 10. 100% 1000

the current wxp could be used for this. I believe it could use a reworking but that a different topic.

There should also be a bonus based on each tier the server is in perhaps 2%-3% per tier up from the bottom.

These reward points could be used to buy all types of things. Weapons, armor, skins, what ever they wanted to do as long as its something worth having. They could also make a “random exotic” chest to buy with points that could drop and exotic including a precursor.

Thanks for reading

would love to hear some input for people on what they think.

The defend reward is hard to get sometimes. You can defend a keep against constant attack for an hr and probably only get half of the rewards you should.

SilencedScream.2167:

I think drop rate should increase a bit, but not necessarily badges. Badges are fairly easy to come by, I feel, and like others have said, if you want an increase, use AoE.

You can specialize and get a high-spike, low reward…
Or you can support, do a lower amount of damage to a higher amount of enemies for a higher reward.

You get to choose the specs, so I won’t fault ANet for it. :/

Or you can go full support to help Ur team win and get almost zero rewards

The whole system of loot/ rewards is poor in wvw

Wvw is very different from spvp. One thing is that most builds used for wvw are very poor at small group encounters.

Skill lag can be on the user end but have been on VoIP with people frm all around the world means that it is a server host side issue. Either the server is to slow or the connection is

Problem is there r no rez skills. You should be able to rez somehow

It’s server side lag. It happened before the update too but now it seems to effect more/different people

I would have rather they fix cullin a while back and leave the ranks for a latter date. The ranks are almost useless unless u are very high ranked and they encourage people to not worry about winning the match and instead just get wxp

Frenk.5917:

CreativeAnarchy.6324:

I disagree with removing the AOE cap unless there is a very large reduction in damage or serious modification in how those abilities work. If you remove the cap, a team of elementalists would be able to wipe a zerg, or any other class with strong AOE would be able to wipe a zerg and it would just make them way too powerful.

If you didn’t get it, that’s exactly why people want the aoe cap to be removed: to allow small parties to wipe entire zergs, in order to incourage people to not to zerg anymore.

A 5 man group should not be able to wipe a 30 man team unless they have a huge tactical advantage or the zerg is stupid. Plus if all you have is 5-10 man teams running around it makes it almost impossible to cap anything other than supply camps. Also it would kill the large wvw guild that like to run as a group.

style.6173:

Definitely disagree with #2. The beauty of WvW is that anyone can play. If you start making buffs limited to party members, it now forces people to group or they cannot participate as effectively.

I’m ok with making most buffs limited to party members. Makes each team need a support to work well and rewards more organized forces. However, I also think that if they do that they should add raid groups and buffs that effect whole raid ( elite skills maybe).

As for Aoe buffs, they would have to be changed on a case by case basses. Warrior banners could affect everyone as long as the benefits to everyone were less. Skills that grant things like fury an might would still need to be capped

If Aoe cap is removed then Aoe skills need a huge damage nerf based on amount of area it hits. Otherwise you will have 50 staff ele groups destroying everyone

Zikory.6871:

It’s not that anet “doesn’t” care about WvW players, its that they have to cater to the larger player base which is PvE. And as “real” WvW players why would the rank mean that much to you? You played before, you’ll play after. (unless your not a “real” WvW player) You’ll have a higher rank then most PvE players because your focus is WvW.

I have low ranks because I play support and I don’t just go mindlessly zerging. I siege up , scout, run yaks. All the stuff that gives u nothing but isi needed to win. And Ur right the ranks don’t matter to me what makes my angery is that instead of trying to make wvw better for for wvw players they just try to give the pve players more to do. They have 10 times the amount of content as it is. And I’ll bet you wvw player spend more real money on gems than a pve player.

It’s because anet doesn’t care about real wvw players all they really care about are the pveplayers and they want them in wvw so they can “prove” that it is good. ell if u like midlessly running around capping stuff then its good if u actually want to win and are hoping Ur fellow server mates care then Ur this is horrible. I use wvw and fill time between pokemon and rift pve

Mister Mustard.7203:

While I certainly agree that using underhanded behavior to stay in WvW while you afk for an hour is not acceptable, you should also probably understand Anet would love for you to transfer to a lower population server. So, I’m not sure if I’d expect to see them in any hurry to fix it.

Server population and wvw population are almost completely unrelated. Yaks had one of the highest server populations and lowest wvw populations at one time

Lyonell.1753:

No, as mentioned before, all you will do is ruin the game for casuals, people rolling alts and over all everyone lol!

If it will get rid of casuals in wvw I’m all for it

Catisa.6507:

Valik Shin.9027:

Anet makes a game that is all about team play then punishes people for playing support. Makes no sense

No trinity = no team play, this game has always supposed to be any class can do any role, which equals less dependance on other which means less team play.

I disagree. Large groups are required in many aspects of wvw and pve for that matter. Also the fact that all people attacking a target get reward tend to make the game more group friendly regardless of weather someone needs to run a specific class or build. When you get into high end wvw team work is a must. Guild groups will have specific people run certain builds to better the group.

Straegen.2938:

IMO the waypoint shouldn’t be contested until the outer wall is breached and should remain contested so long that it is.

I actually like this idea

Before I realized this was a troll thread I was about to rage so hard

Anet makes a game that is all about team play then punishes people for playing support. Makes no sense

If anet would just reward people for trying to win instead of just capping as fast as they can then I would be much happier

REAL.7483:

No no and no. It is not because 5% dmg against players will unbalance the game, it is because of the pandora box it opens.

You want to see guilds recruiting players because of their ranks and not their skill ?
You want to see a gigantic thread with people crying because they can´t be as competitive as an unemployed person? And that Anet LIED to them ?

They must stop patching the game (like Ascended Gear was) and start working on solid system that keeps people interested, and not some kitten patches just to buy them some time, potentially making mistakes they can´t undo.

For me, a system with skins/pets/titles attached to each rank should be more than enough to keep hardcore gamers interested, not to speak that for a true PvPer recognition should be enough, but i don´t see any problem adding some extras.

This and fixing WvW problems like skill lag, that is actually killing the game, rewards are not enough if WvW isn´t fun to play.

I’ll answer your questions in order.

1. If anet reworked the system so it rewards trying to win over trying to cap everything then yes I want to recruit the rank. Knowledge and ability to listen are just as important or more so than skill

2. Make it account bound and
% won’t really matter. If people still complain they can go back to pve cause I probably don’t want them messing up wvw for me

3.The skins are more of a grind than anything. Plus I really don’t care what my skins are they are something that makes elitists feel like they are better and offer no reason to actually obtain them instead of trying to win.

4. While not a question yes skill lag should be the number one priority right now

I think the 5% to stats would be a great addition. It is the right amount to give hard core wvw players a slight edge while not being so much that it make it impossible to overcome. As for the grind part a have to ask would it really be a grind? A grind normally entails running the same dungeon or set of dungeons or quest over and over and over with no change to any part of it. Wvw is a dynamic 3 way battle that while perhaps being similar each night, always has some slight differences. No matter what the amount needed for the ranks most wvw players would jot see it as a grind they would just be happy o get something worth while out of playing the game

On a slight side a shout and banner healing skill would be awesome too

I like this idea. Or give us an elite for each skill type for example an elite warrior shout

Fps has some massive zergs. Ag get big ones sometime cause there are some big wvw guilds there that can put out 30+ by themselves.

Problem with orbs is the make the strongest server stronger

So I’ve been trying to figure out a way wvw could help accommodate different play styles.The conclusion I came to is it needs an extra map. A map for people who like large scale pvp and not pvd. Imagine a city with capture points surrounding a center capture point. Not enclose forts just semi walled areas with some defendability. Perhaps at the entrance to the city you could have a fort. Something esay to defend and hard to take that could be use to rain down siege support for the front line troops. What do you guys think?

I run 2 7850s they never get hot :-)