Guild Wars 2

apharma.3741:

Another QoL improvement for shield gens would be for them to be removed from the game or make them stationary seige on towers and keeps.

Too many times you see a map blob hiding under 4 of these things preventing any form of disable while building 6 super catas. They block every way to defend an objective short of stealth disabling from behind where you’re likely to die. Even then it doesn’t buy you much or any time at all.

Shield gens block cannon, AC, treb and ballista fire, they are too good when stacked.

You need shield gens to be able to assult heavily defended objective. Otherwise you get the old way which is treb from max range and cutoff all supply route until they finely run out 3 hrs later

SkyShroud.2865:

Linking has fail. Blow up the servers. Fresh start, new journey.

This could actually solve a ton of problems but would also create chaos in communities

Server linking isn’t meet the problem that “full” server bull kitten meet had even if the server is always outmanned

Axe isn’t too far off gs dps but no reason to bring power war for dps

so i was doing my daily fractals just now and when all 3 were done i looked in my inventory and found i was missing all the master tier reward chests. Another person in the group said they have never gotten a master tier reward chest. Is this a problem other people have seen?

So u want to see shoutbow warrior rule the world again?

Shadow Knight:

best choice: thief with a GS
Could have stances as its spec skill. would be a slightly slowed attacking weapon that could unleash massive attacks

Good choice: war with dagger
venom would work well for spec skill here or maybe something new. quick hitting spike damage. problem is that a shadow knight should probably have stealth and warriors should never get stealth

long shot: guard with dagger
would be similar to warrior version but just doesn’t fit as well here

Sniper

best choice: Thief with rifle
almost any spec skills would work here. Thief is already the unseen killer so giving them sniper would fit the class well

good choice: ranger with rifle
would probably sound better if it was called marksmen here but a could totally see a ranger with this long range spike spec

outside shot: nothing
maybe you could shoehorn something into this but just don’t

Battle mage:

Best choice: Ele with GS/sword
psychical skills or stances /full melee /massive damage. Could add a nice risk reward aspect back into the class by making then fight a close quarters

Good choice: war with staff/scepter/focus
could use glyph or maybe arcane skills to buff thyself up with element based skills

outside shot: guard with ?
idk what weapon you would give them but almost anything that fits war can fit guard and vice visa

Ritualist: Rev/necro with ?
i couldn’t decide which one it works better with. Rev is a warrior of the mist so calling sprits to do its bidding would work well but necro call upon the dead too so either would be nice. Rev would probably have something akin to guard spirit weapons where as necro could have that or maybe something like warrior banners

good/outside choice: nothing
don’t even think about giving the spec to anything else

Paragon:

best choice: Guard with spear
Guard is built from the combination of this class and monk so it feels right that it would be here

good choice: War with spear
while para may feel more right with guard, anet has shown that they seem to prefer warriors to have the bulk of the useful support over thief heavy clad brother

outside shot: rev
rev channels ghost of dead heroes/villains. any gw1 spec is viable

Dervish:

Best choice: Ranger
didn’t see that coming did you. yes ranger is the best choice for a few reasons. derv is a mystic/nature class from gw1 which is right up rangers alley. plus they are a medium armor class same as derv was/is

good choice: war/thief
the rapid attack style of the derv in gw1 is something that is right at home with both wars and thieves. thief may have the slight edge here as transitionally derv is a medium armor class

outside shot: rev
its a gw1 spec see paragon above

monk:
best choice: ?
im not sure any class fits this super well

good chocie: ele/guard
if you have to pick classes for monk ele offers the light armor casting class that monk was in gw1. Guard offers the protection skills on gw1 monk

outside shot: rev
say it with me, all gw1 classes fit rev

I would like to add that being a good thief is more about rotations than actual fighting skill. Sure you have to be decent 1v1 and +1ing a point but it’s more about being in the right spots to force the other team to react that makes a thief good or bad

Like already said, a good thief can carry and a bad thief is a greater detriment to the team then most classes than bad players on other classes. Even a bad warrior can hold a point for 8 or 10 seconds even 5v1. A bad thief is just dead weight

I’ve always said burning arrows was out of place which is unfortunate because it’s actually a good trait that just can’t be use much

Your all crazy. Ele is still in a good place.

VG: good ranged dps to put on green circles

Gors: still a “must have” 4 of for most groups with thier ranged dps for orbs and gors being large hit box

Sab: having 1 ele to clear kardes turrets is still a good idea

Sloth: aoe for slublings enough said

Trio: let’s face it this fight is about keeping the adds in check. What’s better than massive aoe damage?

Matt: ok you got me here they don’t bring much except ice patch clear but personally never like them on Matt anyways

Escort: everything works here.

KC: large hit box ele still king

Xera: ranged dps and aoe

Spartacus.3192:

Gwaihir.1745:

You conveniently forgot to add the traited ep for 2xep, and added duration from trait. Boon corrupts aren’t a thing yet in most classes. If you use 2 cc’s in 3s you’re blowing cooldowns for what most likely wont be a kill because the passive will kick in.

Ive yet to come across a warrior that takes “last stand” trait. The worst choice of the GM traits on that line.

Yeah people only use last Stand against comps with no condi and massive cc

Don’t stand in aoe and dodge skull grinder

Problem with shout war is its outclassed by shout ele in pvp at least

Dinosaurs.8674:

I don’t see how you can justify more than one warrior anymore. It’s pretty easy to achieve permanent 25 might with just one (assuming the rest of your group helps a big, e.g. druid warhorn 5, maybe even jungle panther), and empower allies alone isn’t enough to justify a second warrior. Don’t forget that EA can already affect 6-7 players, so a second warrior is really only giving ~3.5 players EA for the crap personal DPS it provides. Even if you need the might, revenant is better in pretty much every way since Assassin’s Presence is better than a second EA and glint/jalis rev deals more damage, gives prot, etc.

Idk if I would go as far saying no more than 1 warrior at any raid boss. Only power can solo stack a 10 man party and even then they need strength runes , dumplings and bountiful. If you get in even a remotely moment fight most warriors just aren’t good enough to pull it off without doing crazy stuff like sigil of battle with double gs and or commanders gear

Did know one notice that mending is now more heal per second than heal signet now?

NikeEU.7690:

The one to Rule.2593:

Yep, they failed yet again, what else is new

Who said the goal was to kill mirror comp?

Agreed. These changes weren’t made to kill mirror comp. I don’t think they even had much thought about raids for these changes they seem to by for wvw and group open world stuff.

If you put a warrior in its own subgroup he could solo stack the whole party and with empower allies lasting 9 seconds with a 3 second refresh I belive that on fights like gors and sab a solo warrior comp is viable and maybe even optimal

maddoctor.2738:

OriOri.8724:

https://gw2efficiency.com/account/statistics/statistics.legendaryInsights

The key with Raids is to identify what a “raider” is first and then compare those players with those who could be running them in the first place.

This is 100% true. Without establishing what a Raider is you can’t say who big the community is

The raid community is bigger than the pvp community

The problem with gw2 underwater combat isn’t the combat it’s self so much as the lack of skills and balance

They just need to add legendary runes and sigils

I would rather stances be something more like facets but being self support instead of team support

I’m still a fan of vipers in spvp

just so everyone knows the only real change to warrior was adrenal health.

FrownyClown.8402:

Rekt.5360:

bLind.6278:

FrownyClown.8402:

JTGuevara.9018:

Hahaha! I love it!

It goes to show, there is an anti-warrior bias from some players. They were SO getting used to warriors being a free kill, now they might actually have to -gasp- work for it a bit.

Condi warrior is easily the strongest 1v1 class at the moment. I dont usually cry for nerfs, but I pretty much rage quit last night because of them. A warrior and thief combo on far is pretty nasty.

We’re still fairly easily handled in teamfights, but we’re excellent point holders now. You should be able to outplay the vast majority of warriors, though, unless you’ve got pretty high MMR and they actually know how to cycle defensive abilities.

My biggest problems come from Guardians. It’s difficult to sustain through their initial burst/turtle when we don’t have reliable access to stability. If they catch you on the ring of one of their traps, you’re dead before you can even use EP. Ironic that our biggest counter this season is so far out of the meta.

Yo DH has always been sort of a nice counter to warr (especially double melee war) unless you run signet of might, which condi doesn’t do. Tbh I think I might start playing my full medi DH again, I don’t have any trouble fighting condi warrs on vanilla power warr but in a team fight my berserker ammy kitten goes down fast once my stances are down and I don’t have outside support, as a LB guard at least I can pressure from range if things in mid look nasty.

I don’t play warrior so I’m not sure how they work, but I think its pretty strong to dish out a ton of conditions at once on top of a 3s stun (dunno what the combo is but it gets me every time). It shuts down bunker builds which I like, but I always feel they have way more sustain and do way more damage than me.

Warriors should out dps most classes. The very limited ranged options, no protection, no good access to regen , no spike heal, highly telegraphed attacks, no stealth and no teleport. Their "invulns " are no true invulns and Codi clear is meh at best. Sure cleansing ire is great but look what they give up for it.

Ellie.5913:

Valik Shin.9027:

why is it every time some gets their feelings hurt they come on the forums and com plain about the community being toxic? Do these people live in a bubble? Do you even interact with the real world? This game is way less toxic than real life or most other games for that matter

Um no sorry but you are wrong, people in real life would never come up to me and say the horrible things that people on this game say sometimes and if they did they’d probably get slapped in the face which is something you can’t do over the internet so that’s where cowards go to try to bully people and talk a lot of crap since they think there’s not gonna be any consequences .

Well perhaps it’s just my experience but I have had just as much verbal abusive I’m real life as I do in game.

why is it every time some gets their feelings hurt they come on the forums and com plain about the community being toxic? Do these people live in a bubble? Do you even interact with the real world? This game is way less toxic than real life or most other games for that matter

Yes. I ment failing due to enrage. Edited sorry for confusion

If you are failing due to enrage then the problem is not the mechanics of the fight

I’m well aware there are elitist in this game that kick people for no reason but there are so few in comparison to people who have no idea/skill that just join a group because they want to do the content and fell like they should no have to learn what to do or how to play. Why should people who spent dozens or even hundreds of hrs to learn the content and their class(es) have to carry people who are not willing to do the same. There are train guilds out there to help new/unskilled players become better. If people don’t wanna join a guild then y play an mmo? If people don’t wanna take the time to learn then they shouldn’t expect people to carry them.

Now I’m aware that people don’t always have a ton of time to spent in game but most classes can be learned to a decent level in 10 hr of play with knowledgeable people. During this time you can also learn some dungeons/fractals. Once you know a class you can attempt a raid. 20 hrs with knowledgeable people and you will should have a decent grasp on the tatics and mechanics of raid.

So here the point I’m making with this post. If you join a guild that is will to teach and can spend 10 hrs per week learning how to play then in 3 weeks you will be a decent player. Will you be great? Most likely not, but you will have better luck in dungeons / fractals / raids and just maybe have made a few friends to play with so getting kicked won’t be am issue again.

reikken.4961:

Valik Shin.9027:

some classes get boons just by doing their rotations.

That’s the point, dude
The idea is to see how much dps you can get while soloing with that class

Then just go war. Nothing can touch them ( dps plus ease of play). I’ll put up solo number when I get home unless someone beats me to it

Zodryn.4216:

Why don’t people just test some builds vs the golem with no extra buffs and post results? I’ll start:

7.8k solo zerk thief, no food or utilities, exo armor and weapons.

Someone with full asc and food feel free to provide a better thief number.

Problem with doing a dps test with no boons is that some classes get boons just by doing their rotations. Best examples are warrior and mesmer. Warrior will self stack 25 might just because of Forceful Greatsword. Mesmer will increase dps because of quickness and alacrity. Both of these number will indicate higher dps than each class really has

once group gets all the boss fights down you can do both wing in 1hr 15min pretty esay. if you wanna push it a bit I’ve seen it done in 1hr

TheSouL.1098:

I know the qt benchmarktests but they aren’t Solo… They have buffs they cant have on their own.
Additionally the might an ele stacks drops after a few seconds but the thief does continuously high damage.
In the ranking of qt the thief does more damage on a Medium hitbox then a d/w ele which damage drops on a small hitbox. So on small hitboxes the thief leads the dps?

dps with just self buffs is unrealistic. Unless you are soloing that situation won’t exists.

Hornet.6357:

So I do play a thief in raids btw also, and have killed all but sloth with it. Staff eles theoretical max dps is significantly higher on large hit boxes… This shouldn’t be in dispute, new rotation does 49k dps* vs Thiefs 35k. If ele switches to dagger he does DPS comparable to thief, but his offhand is where the utility can be really strong. Swirling winds, Obi flesh, Heat sync, cyclone, waterglobe, water overload…. These are just from weapon choices. Then there’s auramancers that proc protection. So yes, DPS wise thief is arguably equal on some of the fights, but ele is better for the team in the long run.

• -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2M3engTZfn8&feature=youtu.be

staff is only that high on gorsaval. For everything else if you go practical dps a thief will beat an ele and the thief will have more cc. If you bring focus for the untility as an ele you lose more dps. This isn’t to say ele is bad they are very good, but thief is also really good for dps and break bars. Thief is also far more survivable. So unless you are at gorsaval or need the swirling winds at sloth, there is nothing wrong with taking a thief over an ele

reikken.4961:

Alright, thanks. Rather disappointing, as I was hoping there’d be maybe a rotation that involved making swaps to axe or something for better dps, but oh well.

As an aside, I don’t think I’d ever use scholar/air over strength on PS due to ideal vs realistic pug conditions, but that’s a different discussion.

Condi was mentioned though. Does condi do more dps than power? Again assuming might is already permanently at 25.

Power is better.

So probably a not a huge dps different but wouldn’t arms edge out tatics if we don’t need the might or empower allies? Yes empower is gonna be a modified with tactic but arms has some bleeds with extra condi damage that you could pair with toxic sharpening stones. Also have blood lust modified and some ferocity via signet mastery/ blood reaction combo

some form of this would be nice but YouTube videos fill this role well enough that I don’t see anet using resources to do this

28k on the golem

ps war, rev, crono and druid are in 99% of comps for every raid boss (usally only 1 of each). Ele or thief are in most comps. Other than gorsaval, ele and thief are almost dead even in dps but thief gets the edge in VG for its far greater survivability. necro and engi both fill the condi role well it just depends on which utility you need. necro has the edge as they are easier to play and more useful in more fights. DH is ok but situational. their dps trails off in movment fight and most of what they bring can be got from other classes. that being said they are still a solid option for most comps

head butt is a 3 sec stun, does good damage, has decent range, gives full adrenaline, and is a stun break with a 20 sec cd. I would say 1 second self stun is fair tradeoff

Lord Kuru.3685:

Valik Shin.9027:

Lord Kuru.3685:

What if you don’t have HoT?

well this does seem to be designed as a raid tool so anet probably assumes people will have HoT

Dungeons and fractals both could benefit from DPS. So why was this designed exclusively for HoT? Cash grab perhaps?

fractals are more about surviving than a real dps check and dungeons are face roll with all the new specs

Most severs have ts3 so this isn’t huge. Useful but not game changing

Sun Lian.4075:

Oh my god would you stop thinking I’m a total noob that has never even joined a raiding group before..

This is what I mean, to you people it’s either you’ve got no idea what you’re doing otherwise you would’ve completed raids already, or you’re already there because you worked really hard. In between that doesn’t exist.

No.. I’m someone that knows what their doing, I’ve already joined quite some training groups and seen enough videos and stuff but I still get denied from the real groups because it’s incredibly elitist.
1 little thing off “meta” and you’re kicked, that’s how bad the end game is in gw2, not just raids. And that’s just a fact.

every single mmo has a meta. this is not a gw2 thing. and honestly why not run the meta build? its the meta build cause it is the most effective so why not use it?

warrior is ps
druid can be zerk,condi, or heal
ele can be zerk staff/dw or aurmancer

ele and druid will depend on the fractal and the team comp

Lord Kuru.3685:

What if you don’t have HoT?

well this does seem to be designed as a raid tool so anet probably assumes people will have HoT

condi necro is great for most high tier fractals. in dungeons go power. as long as its not a speed clear run power necro will be ok for most people

Sun Lian.4075:

Yea, right.

As if it’s really necessary and helpful to join a training group a 100 times, please…

Like that, I would have my first successful raid in about 4 months.
So that’s what those oh so dedicated people that now have 50+ LI have been through as well? I really doubt it.

those dedicated people with 50+ LI probably did a lot of fail runs but what they had were other like minded people that kept showing up and figuring it out together.
if you really want to maximize your raid experience then join a guild that does raids. the are tons of casual guild with decent raid groups that don’t expect you to sped 20hr a week raiding

A lot of it depends on what build you run. Warrior builds have strengths and weaknesses like most everything else. But generally

cronos I like to keep up the aoe (gs and lb burst)

Ele use as much chain stun as possible. They generally can’t break more than 2 stuns and their stun breaks are longer cd than warrior stuns

Dragon hunter is all about build and skill. A pretty even match up here

Rev is similar to DH but warrior has a better advantage here. Dodge or block their big attacks

Necro. Burst them. And cc when they don’t have stability. They have very limited stun breaks

Thief is is about build. A burst war can take them out first. Condi war it’s hard. Main thing is keep as much pressure on them as possible

Ranger is hard to say because the builds vary greatly. Fighting a heal druid vs fighting a condi druid is completely different

Engi is just a pain in the kitten . They generally don’t do a ton of damage but they can midagate damage on an insane level. Just keep the pressure on them so they have to keep playing defensive