Guild Wars 2

So I was running one of my fun builds, physical cc build, and I keep getting interrupted on my stomp. This doesn’t seem right. The skill is a stun break the gives stability but only 1 stack. In a single fight I had it interrupted 3 times. It’s like a thief using shadow step to break a stun but getting interrupted befor they can teleport away. It makes no sense. Idk if the stability wasn’t being applied or if they are just spamming cc that fast but something should change. If the skill isn’t bugged then I think stomp needs 3 or 4 stack of stability

Axe use to out dps gs. People complained that axe was to strong so the nerfed it. Then people still said it was to strong so the back loaded it making the final strike deal more damage while the frist couple r wet noodle

I run this as mace/mace hammer but still same idea. What I find is that if u r gonna go with the bleed and confusion in this build u should go with something like rabid. This gives you the condi damage to let the bleed and confusion do some work and the toughness to have the time for them to tick. Also gives u the ability to put on critical sigil like Earth for even more condi. If u wanna go damage I find that bezerkers power is a better trait and to also take the 5% damage to weaken foes. Add in air and fire sigil and u can kill people with ease once they use their stun breaks and dodges

Dand.8231:

The weapon traits are just not the best design model anyway. They really DO sort of limit diversity more than they encourage it.

Here’s a better way, eliminate all weapon traits and have each trait affect a much broader playstyle.

Example
Roll the 20% cooldown into the baseline for ALL weapons that currently have a 20% trait. And roll in a few traits that the weapon basically requires to be usable. Replace these traits with traits that provide more compelling choices.

Strength Tree – Forceful Blows (Replacing Forceful Greatsword): Gain 1 stack of might per critical strike with any attack.

Strength Tree – Weapon Mastery (Replacing Axe Mastery): All attacks deal 5% more damage, and critical hits grant 1 bonus adrenaline.

Arms – Scent of Blood (Replacing Blademaster): All attacks have +20% critical chance vs bleeding foes.

Defense Tree – Sundering Blows (Master 3, Replacing Sundering Mace): Attacks cause vulnerability to foes with daze/stun/cc/etc

Tactics – Burning Arrows: Rolled into Longbow Baseline. Replace with a new trait.

Tactics – Quick Breathing: Rolled into Warhorn Baseline. Replace with a new trait.

Discipline – Crack Shot: Rolled into Rifle Baseline. Replace with new trait.

Discipline – Merciless Blows (Replacing Merciless Hammer): All attacks cause +20% damage to foes with daze/stun/cc/etc

I actually really like this. It alwows the warrior to pick whatever weapons suits them while not making them op. The longbow trait is really only good in hybrid and condi builds. Crackshot is meh at best do the rifle lack of utility so that baseline is ok. The only stun weapons are hammer , shield and mace so u still have to swap weapons to get the big hitting attacks. All and all I think this is a very solid suggestion

Idk about the the condi remove with trooper but I know the shout trait does effect it’s cool down and gives it extra heal

U can look at the healing numbers all u want but before suggesting changes about the about of healing u need to look at what the skills are actually doing. In my mind meditations tend to be better skills than warrior shouts

Someone argued with me about this for half an hr. They said gap closer were still effected by swiftness which they do not seem to be

maha.7902:

in MY game players forever remain clueless and play whatever builds they want and all is harmonious in the world.

People will aways find the best builds. To many good theory craters out there for them not to

Meta isn’t a gw2 thing. Every game has a meta that is the best/fastest way to do things.

Regardless of weather they notice it or not they still don’t want on in the group

If people wanna run condi warrior then that fine but don’t get mad if u get kicked from a party. A lot of people wanna get this stuff done and move on. If ur running condi warrior then u are either not giving might to ur party or u are taking away a spot for someone who will do more damage. I have had this discussion with many pro dungeon runners and they all say the same thing

Legitimate question. What has Nike acomlished in game? Not saying this as a jest or an insult but an actual question. I’ve played since beta and all I know of Nike is he is one of the main warriors in dnt. I know dnt makes the meta builds. I have never run with then and have no clue what they have actually done in game. Maybe people should consider that there are people who don’t know Nike or anyone in in dnt so saying that you have acomlished things means nothing to them

NikeEU.7690:

Except I’m not some random schmoe, I have accomplished some things in this game and my opinion on the topic does mean quite a bit actually.

Sure sounds like that’s what he said

NikeEU.7690:

Valik Shin.9027:

On another note. The way a certain person has come in here ranting about how they know everything about warrior cause of who they are has made me loose a lot of respect for them.

Oh boo hoo. If you’ll notice, the OP asked a question. I answered it to the best of my knowledge, in a simple manner. Some guy tells me I’m an idiot and “he doesn’t care about my guild tag.” Please note: I didn’t make sick brags about my guild or myself in order to put him down, he is the one who brought it up, not me. When he attacked my credibility, I defended my credibility.

If someone says “why should we trust what you have to say about warrior builds?” I think it is rather fair of me to cite the fact that I have earned a little credibility over the years.

And look at your quote again.

“ranting about how they know everything about warrior cause of who they are”

Really? Can a fair person read this thread and make that conclusion? Is that really what an honest person can say happened? Please.

I wasn’t attacking u for ur answer or credibility. In fact I know you are a credible source for warrior info. Also I agree that in certain situations a condi warrior well work well. But to say this is who I am and my opinion is the one that matters? That’s what I have a problem with. You wanna come on here and try and help people that’s find but don’t tell people that you are right cause of what you have done tell them what you think and move on.

On another note. The way a certain person has come in here ranting about how they know everything about warrior cause of who they are has made me loose a lot of respect for them.

Condi warrior may be better than some other classes zerker builds but that still doesn’t make them worth the loss in dps over a zerker warrior. With the ability to bust most dungeon bosses down in a few seconds it doesn’t give the condi a chance to take full effect. High level fractal I could see condi as a viable option for warrior but not in dungeons unless it’s soloing

People don’t seem to understand warriors. People say things need nerfed case they always see warriors with it. LB , shoutbow, CI , axe if you go back far enough. But the reason warriors always run the same things isn’t because they are overpowered it’s because everything else is under powered. LB and hammer are only good weapons with utility while still dealing decent damage. Axe just doesn’t have the damage to over come lack of utility. Nothing short of “to the limit” with shout trait is even close to healing signet and even then shouts r bad now. Warriors need buffs to underpowered weapons, skills, and trait not nerfs to ones already in line with what other classes have

Rampage isn’t any worse the loch and they never nerfed that

Hammer mace/mace pysical hybrid build

Also maybe remove extra condition for each tier on adrenaline cause physical build has very low condi clear

Make mending a physical skill and have the healing scale with adrenaline like physical damage skills do. It would make it viable when traited

By not running PS/ea the rest of ur party is losing 600+ power if no one is might stacking

The numbers are probably close. Would put the total char population around 1 million which fits with the size of a midevil kingdom

Really the only time to use ranged weapon on a warrior is High level fractals where there can be heavy disconnect. With that in mind, LB is by far the best option. The the immobilization is awesome for some of the bosses like dredge. Add in might stacking and a double chance to proc on the auto attack and the LB is superior

For pvp mostly shoutbow, hambow, hammer/gs and healing signet. In PvE some people still complain that warriors dps is too high and in WvW they complain and cc and warrior land speed. And mobility for all 3 aspects

Adelberm was not actually in line for the throne so his royal line in a way starts with him.

Sorel.4870:

Where did you see warrior hate? Warriors are usually welcome in pvp, because they run support builds most of the time. Shoutbow is not OP maybe, but it is the strongest and most important build in the current meta.

The only time I really hate on warriors is in WvW, because they can just (and will) run away from you if they get outplayed, which is not really warriory, if you ask me.

Half the post in this forum are warrior hate or have a fair bit of it in them

Why is there so much hate about warrior? Lets look at what they have. They have no op builds in PvP and subpar damage outside of open world pve. Their damage is so low in fact they sacrifice 20%-30% of personal dps to increase team dps and it is a net gain for gain. The only thing the warrior is actually good at is support. So before u say warrior does to much dps in dungeons look at gaurdians, ele, thief, ranger, engi. Before you say they have to much cc look at engi and gaurdians. Before you say they have to much healing and condi cleanse look at ele and gardians.

tetrodoxin.2134:

Cause Warriors have the worst condi cleanse, and other classes aren’t affected by condis :0

Still less condi removal than gaurdians or ele and I don’t hear 1/3 the complaints against them

If a warrior is burning, poisoned, or has 5-10 bleed stacks healing signet is completely negated.

Mace+axe/sword+shield/rifle. Just to show how bad I am

NikeEU.7690:

Offhand warhorn is so significantly better for open world anything that it isn’t really comparable.

If heavy amount of movement is required I would agree off hand warhorn is better. But if u r in an event like grenth then axe off hand is better

Gs axe/axe is amazing for tagging add. That’s y it’s “meta”

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

Valik Shin.9027:

Zefrost.3425:

I think it’s missing the role of requiring skill to win.

Yes cause there isn’t any other class that could possibly require less skill “cough ranger cough”

Ranger:
-Knowledge of which pet in which situation
-Managing pet to avoid its death
-Knowing where to place spirit(s) to avoid its death
-Learning how to play with a sword (aka a unique game mechanic that you won’t encounter in any other class)

Warrior:
-Hulk Smaaash!

Edit: Once you make a ranger, gear him up and reach 80, you will realise it’s one of the most difficult classes in order to become viable (aka get a spot in meta groups) (and yes rangers do have a spot)

It’s pretty far from what people think rangers are doing (spam RF, repeat)

And a good warrior will judge his party members skills to the encounter and change up his skills and traits. So yes if u have a perfect group then warrior is mindless but then so is every class short of guard. And the post I was commenting about seems directed to PvP

Zefrost.3425:

I think it’s missing the role of requiring skill to win.

Yes cause there isn’t any other class that could possibly require less skill “cough ranger cough”

It wouldn’t be a bad idea but banners r pretty storing as they r so I don’t see it happening

Konig Des Todes.2086:

Bleh. The whole “go to the past to protect the future” has been done, tyvm and no thank you for GW – and it’s even been done in the GW franchise as an April’s Fools joke that has kept running since 2011. Leave it to the fractals.

Best April fools “prank” ever

tico.9814:

Valik Shin.9027:

Do people not realize that warriors need these skills to have any chance in PvP? Take a look at any warrior build. Unless they are running ham/bow they will have a gap closer somewhere. U know y? Cause they need them to be able to hit things. Only class that is gonna be right in a warriors face is a gardians. Every other class the warrior has to go to them. A warrior has to be able to get into melee range to have a chance

That’s another reason why longbow is too kitten good in conquest and why its the base of all warrior builds, you name them, greatbow, hambow, shoutbow, ect.

Are saying it needs nerfed?

Also on top of PS giving might in battle , a good warrior can prevent stack 24 stacks of might with a lava font

Don’t forget about “for great justice” which add 6 stacks for the rest of the party

Do people not realize that warriors need these skills to have any chance in PvP? Take a look at any warrior build. Unless they are running ham/bow they will have a gap closer somewhere. U know y? Cause they need them to be able to hit things. Only class that is gonna be right in a warriors face is a gardians. Every other class the warrior has to go to them. A warrior has to be able to get into melee range to have a chance

Nova Stiker.8396:

NikeEU.7690:

Thing’s Elementalists do in PvE…

1. Provide 100% Fury uptime for the party. PS warrior doesn’t.
2. Provide insane front loaded burst damage with Ice Bow and Glyph of Storms
3. Have about 40% more personal sustained DPS than a warrior.
4. Provide permanent swiftness to the party.
5. Bring blast finishers on demand in and out of combat for utility

And people are trying to say that a phalanx warrior somehow invalidates Elementalist? You don’t understand the meta at all if you think Ele and warrior are competing for party slots: the warrior is competing with Ranger and Engineer. Those are the classes who should feel bad, if anyone.

-_-

/facepalm. (I main ele btw, I know full well how good our damage is)

The meta is killing nearly any boss in the game under 15 seconds.

I know this.
You know this.
ArenaNet knows this.

Do you honestly think the new expansion, ArenaNet is going to keep letting bosses be shredded with ease?

Lets face it, the zerker meta will end. There is no way ArenaNet will allow players to continue to shred their dungeons in under 15 minutes.
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Also, Forceful Greatsword in PvP? I’ve seen that before but I’ve only seen dead players use it… I have no problems with the damage of Forceful Greatsword, as I stated before, in combination with Phalanx Strength makes for some very powerful, mindless hack and slashing in PvE, there is nothing supportive about the trait than “hit more”. The last thing I want in the new expansion is easy content.

The meta will be what ever way kills everything the fastest. Unless they make condi a real thing the meta will still zero. Even then people will just run sinister which is still mostly zerker

Honestly they should have added an expansion every year. Between all the dragons plus cantha and elona that’s 7 years.

I could see someone running regen banner, shout bow with the new traits. Throw in wh and trooper runes and they could be an almost unstoppable tank for holding points

Y is there so many post about warriors needing to be nerfed when they don’t have hardly anything left to nerf

Nike warrior is really only good for yak killing

Gagle Dan.6571:

I would like to see some gw1 missions and end game areas made into fractals

I second this. Final mission in prophecies is a perfect fit for factal design

Run story mode ac. About as easy as it gets

There is an old hammer axe/shield group stun/spike build

Some of the weapons are based on gw1. The torment ones are pretty close to gw1 looks. The chaos skins r kinda based on gw1 except gw1 only had the axe. The others are the look u would expect them to have however