Yep Smokee we quake with fear whenever we see you guys.
The 2vs1 is blatant. but i try and take it as a complement that Bg need to do it for the win, so gg.
Gotta say Merc are great opposition, put out pressure so many hours of the day = much respect.
This guy has no idea how long JQ has focused only on BG up until this point. Just because JQ surprisingly attacked your server for once doesn’t mean there must be a 2v1.
Blackgate has bumped heads with JQ more than any other server. BG used to get laughed at by SoR for calling out a 2v1, but here SoR is filling the forums with the same text. Strange how time can change things.
im afraid your a bit outdated. scroll up. the 2v1 thing isnt even denied by the people who did it…. read before posting pls
Uhh. SF attacks BG basically every day, and they’re in JQ. Just because 1 guild in 1 timezone attacks you doesn’t mean the whole server is against you. Come on. That same JQ guild that everyone is crying about has focused mainly Blackgate for months.
Yep Smokee we quake with fear whenever we see you guys.
The 2vs1 is blatant. but i try and take it as a complement that Bg need to do it for the win, so gg.
Gotta say Merc are great opposition, put out pressure so many hours of the day = much respect.
This guy has no idea how long JQ has focused only on BG up until this point. Just because JQ surprisingly attacked your server for once doesn’t mean there must be a 2v1.
Blackgate has bumped heads with JQ more than any other server. BG used to get laughed at by SoR for calling out a 2v1, but here SoR is filling the forums with the same text. Strange how time can change things.
So I’ve actually been in WvW this week when it has ticked at that level but I apparently don’t know what I’m talking about. If you actually read the graph 3 times this week we have been between 30 and 80PPT which suffices for my purpose seeing as I didn’t say we were exactly at 50 PPT.
And other nights it’s ticking for over 400. That point swing just doesn’t magically happen. We know Wednesday night oce and sea didnt show up due to lag and let BG take everything. So with one night we know what happened and why the ppt was so low, I would judge the other 2 was something similar. Telling us what your ppt is when you dont come out and fight isn’t proving a thing. We all know what ya’ll are capable of.
SoR SEA time consists of NYS and SAHP. So yeah when they are not doing an event on a day our PPT dives. BG needs to stop pretending like we are stacked during SEA. Our Oceanic consists of HIRE and late night NA. Again…..stop pretending like that timezone is stacked.
I’m confused. You say full map zerg but then show a screen shot with 40 people in it.
We should get a screenshot of their full map zergs on all maps.
All maps? No. You are complaining about people exaggerating, yet here you are doing it the most. Our SEA guilds don’t have huge numbers. The only one that can pull big numbers during SEA is our oceanic guild, MERC. And it’s mainly non-guildee militia that’s following them.
I would love to see some Oce/SEA transfers to SOR as it would be nice to get home from work and not have paper everything.
I’m also glad we now have KISS to help IRON as they have a tough job. Every day they login, gather the traumatized troops that are being spawn camped and help rebuild everything that was PvDoor’d.
It isn’t that SOR’s EU is overly strong, it is the overlap of our strong NA with our EU. For 1-2 hours we are very strong and then slowly diminishes as EU logs off.
Last night our NA didn’t show up (thanks GvG?) and you didn’t see our normal PPT.
BG starts at NA time with “paper everything.” SoR has enough coverage as it is. HIRE always has big numbers during oceanic, so stop freaking out.
Yes i understand what they did with the pots. But saying that you want to keep tighter trains means your MA should only have to use. not your entire group., only reason you are using them now is for the distinct visual advantage that it creates for some people not being able to see what class you are. I agree with why you have to use them,
Also that was the first gvg you had with choo. we have had a prior GvG so assuming rules would have stayed the same. (on a side note why did you request no banners from warrior? its a class ability, not that we would need one i was just curious as to why lol)
The war banners was an obvious troll.
Our casters don’t use Ghost tonic. It’s impossible, it comes off during combat. Everyone knows this.
Also asurians are also the hardest class too telegraph skills with as of their size. Which is why most spvpers are using an asurian model, because you can’t see what skills they’re casting clearly.
I guess there is only 1 way to tell the differance from a class….asurian or norn, it isnt that hard. Even with the pots its not hard for me, but for others it could create confusion.
No matter the case, if you feel your group needs to use pots to create some sort of cosmic connection between melee train and MA, more power too you guys and good luck. It was unfortunate that we were not able to meet in the middle to make this happen. Hopefully, calmer heads will prevale next time and we can meet and maybe we can get this settled on the gvg field.
After watching the video, yes, the visual advantage is apparent.
Wearing a tonic skin is like wearing the same coloured jersey on a soccer field – easy identification. While the others are wearing a mish mash of colours, prone to confusing themselves even.
In GvG terms, it translates into the ease of consolidating your team members, and differentiating who are your enemies. Perhaps as people earlier stated, masking the class of the person?
The AC mage tonic looks visually striking so it is vastly easier to spot your team mates to squeeze a tight train.
For fairness, either have everyone use tonics, or strike it off completely.
^ Its unfair to your opponents, [Agg]. Its like you’re using an “exploit” to gain an advantage over your enemies.
Forgive me if I’m wrong here but doesn’t everyone have access to the tonic? Isn’t it just as ridiculous to say food is an unfair advantage?
Yes, actually. But food buffs are extremely common with those guilds who do GvGs, so its pretty much understood by all guilds who GvG that food buffs are permitted. These tonics though, are pretty rarely used by guilds that GvG, other than RG and other guilds who want to be like RG.
Sorry, but what is the point of this? I never said no guilds use these tonics. FYI, most of these guilds are from EU. NA guilds that GvG rarely use these tonics, from what I’ve noticed.
So what if those guilds were EU? It’s still the same game. A GvG is a GvG.
Umm no, and it isn’t even oceanic primetime yet. Nice to know SoR’s posters are as classy as ever.
Well, every server has their unclassy posters. You should know very well who the unclassy person in your very own guild is.
Hmm.. Not oceanic primetime yet? Im beginning to think MERC is starting late just when HIRE logs off so they can PvDoor everything. Valid tactic i reckon.
And you just zerg the forums with your 24/7 coverage, apparently. This may be considered oceanic time, but it is not oceanic prime. Like Cuddle said, it’s only like 6:50pm in Australia. Normally, a MERC commander actually starts early with a float team of mainly militia and fights HIRE every day throughout oceanic/SEA. All you have to do is ask HIRE.
I like how BG complains about PvD considering PvD is the only reason why they are here.
In fact, every server in this matchup…in this entire game for that matter, has PvD’d
Every server in T1 has PvD to get to where they are
BG and their ~10 weeks straight of PvD against SoR in T2
JQ and their ~7? weeks straight of PvD against SoR, BG, SoS in T1
SoR and their PvD during Euro timeslot for ~6? weeks
Every server in T1 PvDs daily
SoR – Euro
BG – Oceanic
JQ – Sea
Nobody here. Not JQ, not SoR, not BG has legitimate PvD complaints. We’ve all done it and we all know it. This is the state of T1. There’s no real timezone outside of NA where everyone can get together and actually compete. It’s more like timezone X logs on, ticks at 400ppt, logs off just in time for the enemy to log on and tick at 400ppt.
And for what it’s worth, don’t take this as a “trolling” attempt but there isn’t a timezone out there where BG is in last place in terms of coverage. You guys still have the second strongest EU, NA, and SEA, and the strongest OCEANIC and are able to maintain at least your shard during all timezones outside EU…most of the time
BG is fighting against a large SoR zerg right now (oceanic primetime).
And JQ doesn’t PvDoor at SEA, BG and SoR has large zergs to fight against them at this timezone.
BG has multiple zergs in Oceanic.
CA & PUGS -> 1 medium zerg
MERC -> 1 large (occasionally larger than HIRE) zerg
XF & WM -> 1 medium zerg
SoR has 1 zerg in Oceanic.
HIRE -> 1 large (occasionally even bigger than MERC) zerg.
HIRE just hops a lot.
No, WM, CA, and XF log in for SEA for the most part. SoR has a late night group from NA that always stays up as well. Don’t forget that either side has to be preoccupied with JQ’s SEA force (and oceanic when TKG decides to play).
here let me some up this entire threads or actually t1 in general in this one song
This is the song that never ends.
It just goes on and on my friends.
Some people started singing it not knowing what it was,
And they’ll continue singing it forever just because
In the end it doesn’t concern them, but it doesn’t change the fact that SoR over-recruited.
I, and many other people, can agree with you there.
Anyone have a rotting stash of gold that we can use to move KISS to the appropriate server? Since the lack of EU coverage on the other two servers must not have been clear when they moved.
I know plenty of KISS say they “didn’t want to disturb the balance,” but really. Come on.
I like how BG complains about PvD considering PvD is the only reason why they are here.
In fact, every server in this matchup…in this entire game for that matter, has PvD’d
Every server in T1 has PvD to get to where they are
BG and their ~10 weeks straight of PvD against SoR in T2
JQ and their ~7? weeks straight of PvD against SoR, BG, SoS in T1
SoR and their PvD during Euro timeslot for ~6? weeks
Every server in T1 PvDs daily
SoR – Euro
BG – Oceanic
JQ – Sea
Nobody here. Not JQ, not SoR, not BG has legitimate PvD complaints. We’ve all done it and we all know it. This is the state of T1. There’s no real timezone outside of NA where everyone can get together and actually compete. It’s more like timezone X logs on, ticks at 400ppt, logs off just in time for the enemy to log on and tick at 400ppt.
And for what it’s worth, don’t take this as a “trolling” attempt but there isn’t a timezone out there where BG is in last place in terms of coverage. You guys still have the second strongest EU, NA, and SEA, and the strongest OCEANIC and are able to maintain at least your shard during all timezones outside EU…most of the time
BG is fighting against a large SoR zerg right now (oceanic primetime).
And JQ doesn’t PvDoor at SEA, BG and SoR has large zergs to fight against them at this timezone.
BG has multiple zergs in Oceanic.
CA & PUGS -> 1 medium zerg
MERC -> 1 large (occasionally larger than HIRE) zerg
XF & WM -> 1 medium zerg
SoR has 1 zerg in Oceanic.
HIRE -> 1 large (occasionally even bigger than MERC) zerg.
HIRE just hops a lot.
No, WM, CA, and XF log in for SEA for the most part. SoR has a late night group from NA that always stays up as well. Don’t forget that either side has to be preoccupied with JQ’s SEA force (and oceanic when TKG decides to play).
I like how BG complains about PvD considering PvD is the only reason why they are here.
In fact, every server in this matchup…in this entire game for that matter, has PvD’d
Every server in T1 has PvD to get to where they are
BG and their ~10 weeks straight of PvD against SoR in T2
JQ and their ~7? weeks straight of PvD against SoR, BG, SoS in T1
SoR and their PvD during Euro timeslot for ~6? weeks
Every server in T1 PvDs daily
SoR – Euro
BG – Oceanic
JQ – Sea
Nobody here. Not JQ, not SoR, not BG has legitimate PvD complaints. We’ve all done it and we all know it. This is the state of T1. There’s no real timezone outside of NA where everyone can get together and actually compete. It’s more like timezone X logs on, ticks at 400ppt, logs off just in time for the enemy to log on and tick at 400ppt.
And for what it’s worth, don’t take this as a “trolling” attempt but there isn’t a timezone out there where BG is in last place in terms of coverage. You guys still have the second strongest EU, NA, and SEA, and the strongest OCEANIC and are able to maintain at least your shard during all timezones outside EU…most of the time
This post bothers me because I feel like you must have not stayed up into oceanic/SEA lately. JQ can’t pvd during SEA anymore because now we have plenty of resistance in that time zone. I mean plenty.
Then, BG can’t pvd during oceanic because they have their hands full with HIRE and late night NA float teams, and then just a couple hours later they have us to deal with in SEA. The two time zones are basically the same, give or take 2 or 3 hours.
But please, recruit more, you guys need more european guilds.
like you need more oceanic/sea guilds? like this morning?
stop QQ about this if you did the same this morning mate
No, the bigger issue it still SoR EU. JQ and SoR has guilds that play during oceanic/SEA to fight BG, but no one can field enough people to defend against SoR’s EU. I don’t care if BG does have some famous EU commanders who rarely show up.
omg lets just drop it cause this stuff goes in circles if u wanna play the who to blame game about stacking it goes like this
HOD-JQ-SBI-SOS-JQ-BG-SOR
HOD before the game was released the “titan alliance” set about to absorb guilds to cover all timezones for wvw pretty much making it so noone had a shot against them
JQ got alot of xfers to them when HOD broke up
SBI then recruited a few more guilds and there sea pushed well into EU
SOS then got alot of the bg transfers that left the server after there first drop outa t1 mix that with the ET guilds and Some hod FOE from et PRX hod
JQ then went ona mass recruit to beat sos
BG followed there example and mass recruited that with them having the only eu plus late sea pushing the eu time zone
SOR then followed to Counter BG’s sea/eu coverage
and that covers t1, altho for the most part t1 for the pass month has been the closes its ever been
now cut the bullkitten crying out JQ u have had ur shot twice now to change the state of t1 and u didnt. BG ur Sea along with ur EU pushed into that eu timzone ticking for 400-500 many times and now ur upset ppl recruit to counter ur PUshes ???
T1 has always been a tier of recruit to counter wut the other server is doing. JQ recruited to counter sos. BG then recruited SEA to counter JQ and seeing Bg had EU it made them Crazy strong. SOR then countered this by recruiting EU coverage
my guess is that in the coming weeks/months JQ or bg will mass recruit to counter SOR or one will implode(which i doubt) and TC or DB will get the bulk of there numbers creating another t1 server
Can some TW member confirm that you know this guy is posting on these forums aggressively (and frequently)? What a nice representative of the guild.
It’s only ok when BG is ticking at 450+ during SEA while SoR is ticking at 50ppt.
Any other time BG isn’t ticking at highest ppt, it’s PvDoor.
I play SEA every day on my server and the ppt is never extremely unbalanced. At least not since we used to lead tier 1. Don’t try to defend what is obviously unbalanced.
That’s quite a statement considering what I stated happened today. SoR was ticking a 50 for quite a while, while BG was ticking over 400.
But did it last nearly as long as the point tic that your server is holding? No. There is a difference between squishy ppt and sturdy ppt. There are several guilds who can work for their servers during oceanic/SEA, but only 1 server can muster these kind of numbers in EU.
I know BG has some famous EU commander, but still.
It’s only ok when BG is ticking at 450+ during SEA while SoR is ticking at 50ppt.
Any other time BG isn’t ticking at highest ppt, it’s PvDoor.
I play SEA every day on my server and the ppt is never extremely unbalanced. At least not since my server used to lead tier 1. Don’t try to defend what is obviously unbalanced.
But please, recruit more, you guys need more european guilds.
I’m confused. We aren’t winning right now, are we?
That 1k point difference in points doesn’t really Say anything. Certainly when your server is ticking 450+ for some time. BG’s oceanic and JQ’s SEA don’t even get that high.
I just walked out of JQ spawn on BG bl and got ran over by like 60 SoR. No one else has these kinds of numbers during this time, so the blobbing is rather irrelevant.
making up theories on why they blur seems to be your objective.
BT blurs for the same reason they don’t GvG, its simply a blob guild only. Any accomplishment in game that they do will always be accompanied by having a full BL at their backs. It’s such a shame to watch those video tidbits we get each week, everyone here on SoR just keeps hoping that maybe they can step out of that protective blob of theirs and challenge themselves, but every week we are disappointed As I stated before BT, TW is more than willing to pop your cherry and fight you in a GvG. Yes I know the story already BT about how you enjoy the random terrain fights, and never knowing when a fight will come, but until you prove your skill with equal numbers against any of the fine T1 GvG guilds., your guild will continue to be the laughing stock of T1 with that protective blob of yours.
I know that at least TW will gvg, but please don’t talk about someone for having map zergs with “TW” in your signature. TW is known for having map zergs everywhere. You have the best map zergs, but still. Map zergs.
I don’t know why BT keeps getting hate for something that we see every day in tier 1. Map zergs. Ever since launch.
I think I might take a break from WvW (or gaming for that matter) , the amount of malicious hostility I feel expressed daily by other servers and even several servermates has just turned me off Guild Wars.
I wish we could all be adults and just play the game but that’d be asking too much.
Guess I’ll just stick to playing Flower.
Staying off the forums is a nice way to clear your head from all this. Stick to your guild, enjoy the lulz, the bags and just think of PPT as something that comes with coverage. Accept that and you maaay have a chance. haha
Quite a joke that BG which keeps stacking more guilds on 2 time zones (Oceanic & SEA), will keep whining when SOR is stacking more on their EU time zone. Doesn’t this just put us on par with your 2 timezone advantage? Or are you the only server entitled to it?
I guess its all good for them until they’re losing.
All these complains about PvDoor works both ways. BG PvDoors during their strong period, SOR PvDoors during theirs, and its just lately that JQ can’t PvDoor as well during their SEA timezone due to BG’s stack fiesta? All these useless complains.
Just play the game.
You keep saying that, but SoR has similar numbers of players in total during SEA/oceanic and I don’t think the oceanic’s/SEA on your own server (HIRE, AFS, SONG, OCX, Early EU players, Late NA players, TSYM) would appreciate calling what they do PvD, show more respect to your servermates as well as people who are matched with them. Half the reason why I don’t mind fighting SoR is due to the fact that SoR are the only two servers with a notably large Oceanic presence. Any other match-up would be boring in the GMT+10/8 timeslot.
In regards to us (MERC) being accused of zoom hacking by a previous poster (not the quoted author); I command almost every night and I think you need to get some credible evidence before you start throwing down claims that are nothing more than “he said/she said”.
Similar…
OCX – 10 – Occasional Raids
AFS – 10-20 Daily Raids
NYS – 15-30 Occasional Raids
SAHP – 15-20 Occasional Raids
SONG – 10+
HIRE – 20-30 Daily Raids but rarely ever go into SEA
BG, ON the other hand…
MERC – 30-40 Daily and venture into SEA as well
WM – 15-20
ND and ND – 30+
Urge – 20-30
CA – 20-30
XF – 25-30
Thai – 20-30
Equal, definitely, considering sometimes SAHP and NYS don’t even go on raids, like today. No wonder you are ticking 300+.
Um. NYS and SAHP were both in full force on JQ bl today.
So, what was [SONG]’s guild name before they transferred to SoR? I know they are from Dragonbrand, but there was no SEA guild named [SONG] on Dragonbrand just a week ago. Really curious as to which original DB SEA guild left.
They got SONG and WE from DB & then KISS from a lower tier EU server…
Yes, I said that. I bolded the question that I was asking and another sentence to make the question clearer.
So, what was [SONG]’s guild name before they transferred to SoR? I know they are from Dragonbrand, but there was no SEA guild named [SONG] on Dragonbrand just a week ago. Really curious as to which original DB SEA guild left.
They got SONG and WE from DB & then KISS from a lower tier EU server…
Yes, I said that. I bolded the question that I was asking and another sentence to make the question clearer.
In all due honesty, last week’s matchup was probably one of the closest in history. BG won by about 21k from 3nd place.
It’s obvious they are the powerhouse of the tier when it comes to population and deserve the respect for that.
If SoR getting more people makes the matchup even closer with the same result as far as placement, I think it’s something everyone should be happy about, especially since there are great fights to be had.
Except for the part where you completely forgot about Jade Quarry and how SoR won a few matches here recently.
So, what was [SONG]’s guild name before they transferred to SoR? I know they are from Dragonbrand, but there was no SEA guild named [SONG] on Dragonbrand just a week ago. Really curious as to which original DB SEA guild left.
This. No one heard BG are getting a couple of oceanic and SEA guilds soon?
Who said this? Pics or no proof! :P
People aren’t just complaining about SoR getting a new guild, but about SoR getting a guild in a time-zone that they dominate. Wouldn’t even SoR feel better if JQ could put up a fight during EU? This is the point trying to be made.
It’s almost like someone is trying to make the Vizunah Square of NA, or at least what Vizunah used to be.
i’m hoping for lots of open field fights, and fight nights this week!
I’ll be hoping for the same, since defending against your server’s hackers in any kind of fortress is impossible. =(
Arrow carts can hit any location that the player can see so long as it is in range. So, like at hills, some gates have a little space open at the top of the door (Hills middle inner gate, like mentioned earlier in the thread). If you place an arrow cart right in front of the door, the player on the arrow cart can shoot across to the bridge or anywhere inside that they can see.
You can do this at any location so long as the arrow cart can reach. It’s not an exploit, it’s just something that should be changed.
SBI, just endure this week! Your rating will change drastically and you will move to the general area that you belong in. That’s what this first week is going to be like for a lot of people.
Guys, your rating will change every week now. You won’t be fighting the same people all the time and you will be placed with people who will defeat EBay plenty of times in the future. Just keep going.
ANet has already said that this first week will move most people to the general area where they belong. Even though it isn’t cool you’re fighting the same people for 1 more week, this actually is a fix for Ebay.
Just remember that this new system will change every servers rating every match-up, so the old tiers don’t matter anymore. It doesn’t matter if you’re fighting again because it can’t be the same thing every week.
But food buffs are extremely common with those guilds who do GvGs, so its pretty much understood by all guilds who GvG that food buffs are permitted. These tonics though, are pretty rarely used by guilds that GvG, other than RG and other guilds who want to be like RG.
As I stated before BT, TW is more than willing to pop your cherry and fight you in a GvG. Yes I know the story already BT about how you enjoy the random terrain fights, and never knowing when a fight will come, but until you prove your skill with equal numbers against any of the fine T1 GvG guilds., your guild will continue to be the laughing stock of T1 with that protective blob of yours.