Guild Wars 2

Guns and Giblets.9308:

Vayne.8563:

I’ll just reply to this so there’s a record of it that you can’t personally edit.

Why would I edit it? You’ve already been reported for slanderous claims.

If you are more interested in analyzing why I post, to the point where your’e talking about it more than what’s in the OP, its’ in appropriate for the forums, and personal.

Yet falsely accusing me of harassment is appropriate?

I made a long and detailed post responding to the OP’s post. Why don’t you get over yourself and respond to that—if you’re truly interested in non-personal issues.

I don’t care if you don’t like what I post. In fact, I’m quite happy that’s the case, because it means I’ve scored points. If I never scored points, you wouldn’t care at all. What bothers you is that I’m often correct in what I’m saying, so you can’t remain negative without a counterpoint. Sorry if that inconveniences you.

I’m not even sure what that means other than “I’m better than you; you should feel bad.” At least you stick to your guns long after you’ve run out of bullets.

I like how you try to dish out some juvenile insult after engaging in character assassination all in a post that says personal discussion is “inappropriate.”

When are you going to retract and apologize for your slander?

You’ve been gunning for me for a long time. I don’t even know why you deny it. You don’t talk about the topic, you talk about how I respond and why I respond. Neither are appropriate topics. If you cant’ see what you’ve been doing others certainly can.

Ursan.7846:

Villious.8530:

Please re-read. I wasn’t discussing you. Only laughing at the people who were…

Villious.8530:

“You’re wrong about that. They’ve added one. Now the only things garuanteed in life are death, taxes and Vayne white-knighting”. We all bursted out laughing because we all knew what he meant, even though none of us had mentioned your name previously. Congrats bud…..you’re famous!

Pretty sure you’re laughing at him.

Hey there and thanks for the support….but I don’t mind being called a white knight. What people don’t realize is I’ll do the same thing in most settings when I see people misusing language to try to make a point. It helps neither them nor the community.

Drew.1865:

Ursan.7846:

Villious.8530:

Vayne, I think the issue is, why do you feel so compelled to give “the other side of the story” so often?

The better question is why people love to point out his white knight-ness.

It boggles me. It’s not good argumentation. Just because the speaker is biased, doesn’t make his points less valid. And posters constantly perpetuate this logical fallacy. If you are actually serious about serious discussion, this combined with all the hyperbole and outright lies will of course annoy you.

I love when people use the word hyperbole in a forum. It reminds me of the biggest fanboi I’ve ever seen on an mmo forum that defends Tortanic in many posts there and most of that forum community just ignores that persons comments.

When you see hyperbole you know it’s a serious fan of the game lol.

I am a serious fan of the game. Moreover, I’m PROUD to be a serious fan of the game. And quite fortunately, I’m not the ONLY fan of the game on these forums, though I’m one of the most vocal.

People are always ready to knock something they don’t like. Far fewer people are willing to defend something they do.

I’m not so sad to be part of that minority.

Not to mention open world events don’t equal all events. The Orrian temples are much harder than the Claw of Jormag, so much so that most people don’t even do them. And of course dungeon content is harder too. Guild missions are harder. Fractals are harder.

Why pick a single very visible dragon event to make your point, OP?

Villious.8530:

Vayne.8563:

Villious.8530:

Vayne.8563:

Guns and Giblets.9308:

Nick.6972:

Vayne, you’re the biggest fanboy around here.
I read (and don’t reply) GW2 forum every now and then and every time I do you’re literally in every thread every time stating how great this game is.
If this game is so great, why do you keep coming back to this forum 24/7?

His express purpose is to maintain a positive atmosphere toward the game and balance out negative posts about GW2:

As for protecting Guild Wars 2, I’m against hyperbole generally and will call people on it, in real life as well as on forums, for the reason of it obscuring truth. It doesn’t matter to me if you like that, or you don’t.

What does matter to me is that the other side of the story gets told.

It’s basically the same MO he had over on a GW2 fan site.

He occasionally has some valid points, but for the most part his undue faith in the game and its inevitable development toward greatness constitutes a kind of flamebait (see the section on “unhelpful fanboy”) that so often ruins online forums.

So you think me giving the other side of the story is unhelpful, where a bunch of people saying the game is dying is helpful. I understand now. Thanks for explaining it to me.

There are those who might say that some people who attack the game at every opportunity, often by quoting some parts of truth while ignoring others are far worse for the forums, but that’s okay. We all have our opinions, even on this.

The OP made a post about Anet being greedy because they were selling emotes, like the ones he had in Guild Wars 1, apparently.

In fact, what is being sold is a three pack of dances, which the OP now claims he wasn’t talking about at all.

Also, since you seem to be good at researching my quotes, why don’t you point out the times I’ve said Anet has made a mistake or I don’t agree with them. Oh, sorry, that doesn’t fit your current theory does it?

This is precisely the same MO that people use in other threads, trying to make a point while ignoring a portion of the evidence.

Vayne, I think the issue is, why do you feel so compelled to give “the other side of the story” so often? I’ve gotten where I can look at the title of a thread and know whether or not your going to post within.

A few days ago, I was talking in Team Speak with my guild. One of my guild mates said something about garuanteed drops. I said “Well you know what they say….the only things in life that are garuanteed are death and taxes”. Then all of a sudden, another guildmate said “You’re wrong about that. They’ve added one. Now the only things garuanteed in life are death, taxes and Vayne white-knighting”. We all bursted out laughing because we all knew what he meant, even though none of us had mentioned your name previously. Congrats bud…..you’re famous!

That’s great. It absolutlely 100% doesn’t matter why I feel the need to stand up against hyperbole or people making false statements, or people omitting truth from other statements. It matters not one whit. This isn’t a thread for discussion.

If you wish to start a discussion about me, please start a new thread. I get that you don’t get it, and that’s fine. But there are people who do get it, and I’ve received appreciative messages from those people…so it works both ways.

Should I listen to you, or the people who clearly like what I’m doing. And again, why does it matter? Why is it so important to you? Why, in fact, am I so interesting to you that you’re discussing me in your spare time?

Maybe you should focus more on the actual issue.

Please re-read. I wasn’t discussing you. Only laughing at the people who were…

Have a nice night Vayne.

Sorry dude, I’m in defense mode. lol

Villious.8530:

Mirta.5029:

Villious.8530:

Vayne, I think the issue is, why do you feel so compelled to give “the other side of the story” so often? I’ve gotten where I can look at the title of a thread and know whether or not your going to post within.

because we like to spend time on the forums.
I’ve seen a lot of the dark side expressed by the same people and a lot of the white side expressed by the same people and I’m completely okay with that. These are the forums, forums are for discussion, you shouldn’t be limited on how many posts a month you can post and after how many months do you have to disappear off the forums.

My post had nothing to do with how many times you can or should post on the forums. I’ve said before, blindly defending all the time looks just as bad as blindly attacking all the time. If Anet needs a full time champion, I’m sure they can work that in the budget.

I’ll let it go at this before I get a infraction. Have a nice day :-)

How can I be “blindly defending all the time” when I’ve agreed with negative posts? There’s a big long post about a guy that had four or five problems with the game. I agreed with 4 of his 5 points and said so, only disagreeing with his bit about there being more hearts in the game.

People like to throw words like blindly around. I dont’ do anything blindly. I leave many complaint threads alone. I can point out several on the front page right now. If they’re fairly put, and they employ false info or skewed logic to make a point, I don’t comment in them. But if they do, I’m entitled to post a response.

I’m not sure why this should be a problem for you.

Guns and Giblets.9308:

Vayne.8563:

Since you seem to like to reply to my threads, you must have an issue with someone pointing out simple stuff like I’m tired of a game, okay go play another game.

Since this is something many people besides me have said in similar threads, I assume you’ve posted a personal response to each one, because if you’re just singling me out it comes off much like harrassment.

Maybe you should just stop worrying about why I post, since that’s NOT the topic here.

Harassment? You have two options: (1) Produce relevant evidence; or, (2) Retract your insinuation and apologize.

I don’t follow you around. You do happen to post in a lot of the threads I read, and when I see your asinine nonsense, sometimes I respond. That is hardly “harassment.”

I’ll just reply to this so there’s a record of it that you can’t personally edit. If you are more interested in analyzing why I post, to the point where your’e talking about it more than what’s in the OP, its’ in appropriate for the forums, and personal.

I don’t care if you don’t like what I post. In fact, I’m quite happy that’s the case, because it means I’ve scored points. If I never scored points, you wouldn’t care at all. What bothers you is that I’m often correct in what I’m saying, so you can’t remain negative without a counterpoint. Sorry if that inconveniences you.

But it doesn’t give you the right to analyze why I post or make it the topic of conversation, unless you want to start a whole new thread about it.

Villious.8530:

Vayne.8563:

Guns and Giblets.9308:

Nick.6972:

Vayne, you’re the biggest fanboy around here.
I read (and don’t reply) GW2 forum every now and then and every time I do you’re literally in every thread every time stating how great this game is.
If this game is so great, why do you keep coming back to this forum 24/7?

His express purpose is to maintain a positive atmosphere toward the game and balance out negative posts about GW2:

As for protecting Guild Wars 2, I’m against hyperbole generally and will call people on it, in real life as well as on forums, for the reason of it obscuring truth. It doesn’t matter to me if you like that, or you don’t.

What does matter to me is that the other side of the story gets told.

It’s basically the same MO he had over on a GW2 fan site.

He occasionally has some valid points, but for the most part his undue faith in the game and its inevitable development toward greatness constitutes a kind of flamebait (see the section on “unhelpful fanboy”) that so often ruins online forums.

So you think me giving the other side of the story is unhelpful, where a bunch of people saying the game is dying is helpful. I understand now. Thanks for explaining it to me.

There are those who might say that some people who attack the game at every opportunity, often by quoting some parts of truth while ignoring others are far worse for the forums, but that’s okay. We all have our opinions, even on this.

The OP made a post about Anet being greedy because they were selling emotes, like the ones he had in Guild Wars 1, apparently.

In fact, what is being sold is a three pack of dances, which the OP now claims he wasn’t talking about at all.

Also, since you seem to be good at researching my quotes, why don’t you point out the times I’ve said Anet has made a mistake or I don’t agree with them. Oh, sorry, that doesn’t fit your current theory does it?

This is precisely the same MO that people use in other threads, trying to make a point while ignoring a portion of the evidence.

Vayne, I think the issue is, why do you feel so compelled to give “the other side of the story” so often? I’ve gotten where I can look at the title of a thread and know whether or not your going to post within.

A few days ago, I was talking in Team Speak with my guild. One of my guild mates said something about garuanteed drops. I said “Well you know what they say….the only things in life that are garuanteed are death and taxes”. Then all of a sudden, another guildmate said “You’re wrong about that. They’ve added one. Now the only things garuanteed in life are death, taxes and Vayne white-knighting”. We all bursted out laughing because we all knew what he meant, even though none of us had mentioned your name previously. Congrats bud…..you’re famous!

That’s great. It absolutlely 100% doesn’t matter why I feel the need to stand up against hyperbole or people making false statements, or people omitting truth from other statements. It matters not one whit. This isn’t a thread for discussion.

If you wish to start a discussion about me, please start a new thread. I get that you don’t get it, and that’s fine. But there are people who do get it, and I’ve received appreciative messages from those people…so it works both ways.

Should I listen to you, or the people who clearly like what I’m doing. And again, why does it matter? Why is it so important to you? Why, in fact, am I so interesting to you that you’re discussing me in your spare time?

Maybe you should focus more on the actual issue.

DarksunG.9537:

I don’t mind the dances being sold, but for a game they want to be social, the number of emotes is absolutely laughable. I thought GW1 had too few, but they managed to ratchet it down even more.

I’m pretty sure that the bulk of the community cares a whole lot less about emotes than you do.

Guns and Giblets.9308:

Vayne.8563:

So go play another game. I don’t get this.

I play a game for a while, I get tired of it, I play another one. I don’t stop to post on forums that I don’t feel like playing anymore.

It’s pretty obvious why people make these posts. You just don’t like the idea of someone complaining about GW2.

Actually there are not only complaint threads I ignore complete (I’m sure they’re not hard to find), but there are complaint threads I’ve agreed with.

Since you seem to like to reply to my threads, you must have an issue with someone pointing out simple stuff like I’m tired of a game, okay go play another game.

Since this is something many people besides me have said in similar threads, I assume you’ve posted a personal response to each one, because if you’re just singling me out it comes off much like harrassment.

Maybe you should just stop worrying about why I post, since that’s NOT the topic here.

Guns and Giblets.9308:

Nick.6972:

Vayne, you’re the biggest fanboy around here.
I read (and don’t reply) GW2 forum every now and then and every time I do you’re literally in every thread every time stating how great this game is.
If this game is so great, why do you keep coming back to this forum 24/7?

His express purpose is to maintain a positive atmosphere toward the game and balance out negative posts about GW2:

As for protecting Guild Wars 2, I’m against hyperbole generally and will call people on it, in real life as well as on forums, for the reason of it obscuring truth. It doesn’t matter to me if you like that, or you don’t.

What does matter to me is that the other side of the story gets told.

It’s basically the same MO he had over on a GW2 fan site.

He occasionally has some valid points, but for the most part his undue faith in the game and its inevitable development toward greatness constitutes a kind of flamebait (see the section on “unhelpful fanboy”) that so often ruins online forums.

So you think me giving the other side of the story is unhelpful, where a bunch of people saying the game is dying is helpful. I understand now. Thanks for explaining it to me.

There are those who might say that some people who attack the game at every opportunity, often by quoting some parts of truth while ignoring others are far worse for the forums, but that’s okay. We all have our opinions, even on this.

The OP made a post about Anet being greedy because they were selling emotes, like the ones he had in Guild Wars 1, apparently.

In fact, what is being sold is a three pack of dances, which the OP now claims he wasn’t talking about at all.

Also, since you seem to be good at researching my quotes, why don’t you point out the times I’ve said Anet has made a mistake or I don’t agree with them. Oh, sorry, that doesn’t fit your current theory does it?

This is precisely the same MO that people use in other threads, trying to make a point while ignoring a portion of the evidence.

Milennin.4825:

Vayne.8563:

Milennin.4825:

Was to be expected.

I’m just missing the old GW1 emotes. Oh well, it’s not a big deal, I’m just not interested in buying them when they came free in GW1.

Various dances did NOT come free with Guild Wars 1. You got your one dance, and that was it. If you bought the collectors edition, you got a special dance (at least the Factions and Night Fall one). There were no other free dances.

Guild Wars 2 comes with a free dance for your character and Guild Wars 1 came with a free dance for your character. There were no options besides collectors edition dances beyond that.

I’m talking about emotes in general.

So far at least, the shop isn’t selling emotes…its’ selling a dance. So your whole topic is misleading.

Sovta.4719:

New Character Yo.6487:

Raine.1394:

There are a couple things wrong here such that a modern gamer reading the OP recognizes, immediately, a glaring non sequiteur.

Almost anything of value in the game requires a good deal of grinding/farming. I’m not saying this is wrong in itself—simply present. I’m fine with optional grinds. From the standpoint of time to acquisition this requires more than ‘casual’ activity. Also, the addition of vertical progression means that you must ‘keep up’. If you walk away for an extended period of time, when you come back, you will be at a lower power level than other players. The incentive here is a strong, coercive (that’s the hook in VP), reason to not walk away. By definition, contrary to a comment above, it is a mandatory, required grind. It still mystifies me that there are gamers who don’t have a basic handle on this common gaming element.

GW2 is not unique at all among modern games in this regard, and it is most certainly not ‘casual’ in this regard.

Fair enough, but any gear past exotic isn’t needed to complete content except for agony resistance in Fractals. Even rares are good enough to do difficult dungeons if you’re good enough. What i’m saying is most “grinds” are optional. Every MMO will have a grind. In a theme park MMO, there will never be enough content for everyone. Some people will consume it all, and at rapid speeds.

GW2 provides the optional grind, and while many people say that ascended is better and therefore it is needed, 100% of the PvE in the game can be done easily without it, so it is not necessarily needed. This applies to legendaries as well. It is optional. I am a casual player, but have obtained some items that are hard to get, but at my own pace so i have not felt the grind. This is all my opinion of course.

You guys do know that it’s optional on every other game too?

Not really. See in other MMOs, much of the content is gated by your gear. This just hasn’t happened in Guild Wars 2. In Rift without certain stats on my items, I wasn’t allowed to queue for certain dungeons PERIOD. The LFG finder wouldn’t let me queue.

So if I left for 3 months, I couldn’t just jump into a dungeon with a friend or my guild. Because I’d be undergeared. I’d have to gear up first to play.

The only thing that MIGHT apply to here is fractals…except that if I was playing fractals in the first place, I’d get the gear in fractals I need to continue fractals and I can still do 10th level fractals with no agony resist at all, if I wanted to. I could still run with my guild.

Other games don’t work like that. Sure you don’t HAVE to get the gear. But if you don’t, you’re literally locked out of content. In most cases, you can’t even see the content at all.

mjharrison.3209:

whiran.1473:

I think the market speaks when it comes to whether or not Guild Wars 2 has more “stickiness” with gamers over Guild Wars 1.

In under a year, Guild Wars 2 has generated over 3 million sales (as of last official count in January).

Guild Wars 1 had 1 million sales in the same timeframe.

That means that Guild Wars 2 has been 3x more popular than Guild Wars

this logic is wrong as the relative size of the mmo market at those 2 timepoints is markedly different. When market sizes and development budgets are factored in, gw1 is the more successful game

Guild Wars 1 was never a “household name”. Many players had neither heard nor tried it, even as a percentage of players back then. It didn’t snare a lion’s share of the MMO player base…even back then. Of course, it wasn’t a true MMO either.

I’d say that on several levels Guild Wars 2 is more successful than Guild Wars 1. It’s more widely known by percentage, it has more sales, and it’s probably made a good deal more money and profit.

I don’t know how you personally decide what’s more successful, but a bigger, more visible, more popular game is how I would decide it.

If you have other criteria….well, I guess that’s okay too.

tigirius.9014:

I’ve been complaining about this since November of last year. Where are the minigames, where are the DE’s where are the metas?

(referring to your peanuts comment)
And then there’s the whole fiasco with loot, that they definitely changed in Nov but no one likes to admit it, where the first month I could get rares and T6 mats from chests out in the open world and now I’m lucky to see a green. Champions the same way most of the time. What makes it worse is there’s a bug that suddenly drops a rare off a low level crappy mob like a deer, it’s like a slap in the face.

Legendaries for engineers are just plain stupid looking imo and I agree “Look at me! I farmed CoF!” is definitely what I’m seeing because you can’t get anything in the open world anymore. We complained about it before and what was their answer to the sheer lack of lodestones/gossamer/globs? MORE RNG because that’s exactly what this game needs is more rng. sigh.

I dunno why but I keep holding onto the hope that someone over there realizes what they did and fixes it. It would sure be a great restoration in faith in gaming companies if they did. I had the biggest blast the first month and a half of this game when there were not 8 months of PVE nerfs to engineers to deal with, loot was in the right places you could actually FARM omg I could farm!, and there was the promise of new open world only content on the horizon, then November happened.

Oh well here’s the hoping.

I don’t know, I got the Predator today and I quite like it. I agree the pistol is godawful though. I don’t get that at all. It looks more like something a clown would use in a circus.

But the predator is pretty cool looking and I love that it wreathes me in fire whenever I draw it.

I’m a self-professed Anet fan boy. I have world completion on one character (and almost on another. I’m only missing one point of interest in all four areas for my second character). I have no trouble being in WvW, or even killing other players. Indeed, sometimes I do it just for fun.

Yet I still say Anet made a mistake by making WvW required for World completion. Put it this way.

A person who just PVes has a map and he completes the map of the area of the game he’s playing. He really gets nothing for that. There is no PVe world achievement…and there should be.

There should be a different achievement for getting all of it, including WvW.

This is a game. People should be able to play the areas of the game they’re interested in. They should be rewarded for playing that area of the game.

By all means, legendaries should require both PVe and WvW to be completed…but there is no reason at all that Anet couldn’t have put an achievement for PVe world completion in the game.

It hurts no one. There is no reason not to. And it would allow people to play the way they want.

Phaedryn.3698:

FInN.7219:

Go for a Legendary?…Sorry but I don’t think the ‘Legendary’ weapons in are truly legendary

I understand this one. When I first heard about legendary’s I thought it would be something to shoot for, long term. Then I realized they were only skins, and had no stat benefit over exotics. To which I thought…wtf?

When I see the amount of effort necessary to create one I cannot help but laugh. There is no way I would ever bother with that much work in a game for nothing more than a skin…it’s absurd. I have never really cared how my gear looked, only the stats is carries.

Then this is probably the wrong game for you, because it was never designed to be that kind of game. Did you see the riot that occurred when Anet offered ascended gear for the first time?

This game was always about cosmetic upgrades. So was Guild Wars 1.

The problem with tiers of gear is that you end up with stat creep, which trivializes older content and limits pretty much everything you can do in game. If all you care about is stats and nothing else, I can’t understand why you’re here.

Mathias.9657:

marnick.4305:

Mathias.9657:

I never took month long breaks in GW1 like I do regularly in GW2, just sayin’. Currently the game has nothing going for it even in the long run unless they add a ton of build variety and fix a lot of stuff which would probably take ANet years to realize. At that point I’ll have just moved on to the next big thing like ESO or whatever new MMO comes out.

And temporary content is horrible. It’s all we’ve had so far…

When did you start playing GW1?

2005 I think? Not long after the game was released, I was there for the failings of trying to do ring of fire mission for like a month because it was hard as hell back then. GW1 didn’t need a bunch of content, build wars and amazing pvp saw to that.

So the guys that left because they were bored lied? lol

Milennin.4825:

Was to be expected.

I’m just missing the old GW1 emotes. Oh well, it’s not a big deal, I’m just not interested in buying them when they came free in GW1.

Various dances did NOT come free with Guild Wars 1. You got your one dance, and that was it. If you bought the collectors edition, you got a special dance (at least the Factions and Night Fall one). There were no other free dances.

Guild Wars 2 comes with a free dance for your character and Guild Wars 1 came with a free dance for your character. There were no options besides collectors edition dances beyond that.

Nick.6972:

Vayne, you’re the biggest fanboy around here.
I read (and don’t reply) GW2 forum every now and then and every time I do you’re literally in every thread every time stating how great this game is.
If this game is so great, why do you keep coming back to this forum 24/7?

Even I can’t play a game 24/7. Sometimes I’m not in game. If you check my achievement points you’ll see I’d drifted into the top 500 so I obviously play the game as well. But sometimes I take breaks. This is one of them. lol

This game has no REQUIRED grind. I say this because I play the game and it doesn’t require me to grind.

Let’s take the Fractals, at this time the ONLY dungeon in the game that requires agony resistance.

I can play the fractals every single day, levels 1-10, without agony resistence and in fact you can even play higher levels if you’re any good without agony resistance, up to say 15. It gives you a chance to try/play all the content.

IF you want to go further with fractals, that is if you like them and want to continue doing them, by the time you get to level 10, you’ll start getting the drops you need to get the agony resistance you need to go further. To do that, means you’ll have to play fractals if you enjoy them.

You can get random rings from dailies through RNG, but if you do a tenth level fractal run every day for ten days, you’re guaranteed a ring of your choice. That ring, by itself, with the simple fractal infusion (which costs 75 fractal relics…you’lll have those easily by then) is absolutely enough to play up to Fractal level 20. During the time you can get other rings, not to mention a backpack if you want it.

But if you don’t want to do high level fractals and just want to see/experience the fractals, you can absolutely do that without grinding. I know, because I have.

The fractals were introduced for people who like to grind. That’s why they were made. They’re giving a percentage of the playerbase what they asked for and a lot of people really liked that. I’m still not at level 20 fractals. I got to level 19 and that’s it. I probably will be at level 20 at some point, but I really didn’t want to grind the fractals…so I didn’t.

You don’t need ascended gear to do any other dungeon in the game. What Anet does or doesn’t do in the future is completely irrelevant, since it has yet to happen. All we have is speculation.

Grinding is not required to play this game. Certain types of players FEEL it’s required, but I don’t see this as the game’s fault. It’s their own play style that makes them feel that they absolutely must have best in slot gear.

They don’t NEED it to play, they need it because they think they need it. The content isn’t gated behind it.

I think Anet handled the dueling pretty well. Before we saw people complaining about dueling and then complaining about having to pay for dueling. Others were complaining about now wanting to have to deal with public dueling and duel requests.

With the custom arena system, there’s plenty of channels for people to duel in now, without them having to pay a penny. People can go there and beat the heck out of each other to their hearts content.

And the rest of us can ignore it completely.

I think it’s a pretty good compromise.

Sounds a lot like the challenge missions that were in Guild Wars 1 but made for larger teams.

Gele.2048:

i just dont like the idea how they keep on adding bilion things into the store and vayne i can see you on evry post do u even play this game or u just keep on sleeping on forums :P

I’m an insomniac, due to chronic pain. I sleep very little. My guild isn’t particularly active at this hour, so I spend time in and out of the forums…usually between other things.

If you don’t think I play the game, check my achievement point totals. lol

tomshreds.1745:

Vayne.8563:

tomshreds.1745:

Thanks for your responses, I’m glad to see people are happy with the game now. I come back from mmorpg.com’s forums and it’s full of “GW2 was a lie” and “GW2 is dead” threads. But hey haters gonna hate I guess XD

I’ll surely hop into the game later today, and since my old Reddit guild dropped me I’ll be looking for another big community-oriented guild. But please no crazy “gotta interview you over the phone and ask you questions about your raiding schedule” kinda guilds hehe

You’re welcome

My guild is probably too small for you, from the sounds of it. Though we have 90 people or so, we have a core of about 25 people who are on a lot. A lot of people are just casual members, who log in a couple of times a week.

The core group is pretty good, but if you’re looking for a larger group, there are plenty of options. Also, it depends on what server you’re on, since server transfers are no longer free.

You should try to find a decent guild on your server.

Thanks for the offer! I don’t mind the guild size, I talked about “big guilds” just because I’m used to them hehe but I really don’t mind On what server are you?

We’re on Tarnished Coast (probably the busiest PVe server). Far more geared to PvE than PvP (though we have some WvWers in the guild and even some people who enjoy SPvP).

Mathias.9657:

Vayne.8563:

Mathias.9657:

No it’s not more involved, and I was using random build examples obviously.. pve is faceroll man everyone does the same rotations every time, don’t even try to deny it lol. Playing your build, all you do is get phantasms up and watch them pwn while you autoattack. I’ve played every proff and the most engaging character is the Elementalist, it’s unfortunate I don’t like caster classes because I would love for my thief to play that way.

inb4 sometimes you switch to S/S and blur frenzy.

I don’t know, dungeons are part of PVe and some of that stuff isn’t quite faceroll easy.

I will give you that one but even dungeons besides fractals are not hard with a competent group – in fact you see some decent play there, the only time I ever use my group utility. In places like CoF though it’s just zerg boss with quickness > collect loot > repeat.

I’ve been in groups where we take the slaver down in literally 7 seconds, it’s hilarious design. That is supposed to be a dungeon boss?? Youtube some dungeon speed runs for a good laugh.

COF path 1 is still only 1 path of Cof. Plenty of guys still wipe in CoF path 3.

Seras.5702:

Vayne.8563:

Anet is greedy? Okay. I guess the free monthly content I’ve been playing I’ve been paying for. Oh Anet is greedy for selling a couple of dances.

There are definitely some things I haven’t agreed with in the cash shop but dances aren’t among them. Dances are fair game.

Actually, I gotta say that paying for something like emotes is kinda lame. I get the whole “no monthly fees” and all but really? it’s emotes….

Don’t EVER play Lotro. Just saying.

Parisalchuk.9230:

Vayne.8563:

Parisalchuk.9230:

Vayne.8563:

Parisalchuk.9230:

Meglobob.8620:

I think everything they look into…will be addressed at some point…there track records pretty good actually…they do listen to there player base…

…it just takes TIME…often the solution to a problem is not as easy as some people think…

Remember they are working on these, well giving us regular new features/content…

Different teams are looking into these problems then are releasing the monthly content, which compared to holiday events is rather… meager (15 min quest per month sure is great! sarcasm).

Don’t know about you but I saw an awful lot of praise for both SAB and the new dungeon. You might have missed it, but I sure didn’t.

New dungeon is fine I can give you that (though that was, I believe, worked on by the people who did the holiday events which explains why it was better than previous living story months), SAB is not living story. I did ALL of the Flame and Frost living story in 2 hours yesterday. 4 months of work… 2 hours.

I didn’t bring up living story, I brought up content. SAB was content, whether you liked it or not.

Living Story is also content. If you are going to say that I am not recognizing the Super Boring Box then you must also concede to recognize Living Story.

How about we have the conversation we were having. This is what you said:

Different teams are looking into these problems then are releasing the monthly content, which compared to holiday events is rather… meager (15 min quest per month sure is great! sarcasm).

Nothing about living story or not living story. All you talked about was monthly content. I responded with monthly content. Last month they gave us SAB (which was more than 15 minutes of content if you enjoy that sort of thing…a lot more). This month they gave us a dungeon which is certainly more than 15 minutes even if you do it once.

Now, to start saying SAB isn’t a living story, when you said that they weren’t providing content is completely disingenuous.

I do agree early installments of the living story were less than exciting, but that doesn’t mean other content hasn’t been released. Even the redo of AC, all three explorable paths, would have to be considered content.

There’s so much hidden stuff in this game. When I was trying to complete the achievement for Maguuma exploration (completely separate from map completion), there was one area I couldn’t find. I was missing an area and I was sure I’d explored everything.

Turns out the entire area was hidden behind a dynamic event. In order to access the area, I had to beat the event. I’d trying soloing at level, at one point and the event failed, so I didn’t get to that area.

I like a lot of the hidden mini-dungeons too. Most people never even see them.

Parisalchuk.9230:

Vayne.8563:

Parisalchuk.9230:

Meglobob.8620:

I think everything they look into…will be addressed at some point…there track records pretty good actually…they do listen to there player base…

…it just takes TIME…often the solution to a problem is not as easy as some people think…

Remember they are working on these, well giving us regular new features/content…

Different teams are looking into these problems then are releasing the monthly content, which compared to holiday events is rather… meager (15 min quest per month sure is great! sarcasm).

Don’t know about you but I saw an awful lot of praise for both SAB and the new dungeon. You might have missed it, but I sure didn’t.

New dungeon is fine I can give you that (though that was, I believe, worked on by the people who did the holiday events which explains why it was better than previous living story months), SAB is not living story. I did ALL of the Flame and Frost living story in 2 hours yesterday. 4 months of work… 2 hours.

I didn’t bring up living story, I brought up content. SAB was content, whether you liked it or not.

Mathias.9657:

No it’s not more involved, and I was using random build examples obviously.. pve is faceroll man everyone does the same rotations every time, don’t even try to deny it lol. Playing your build, all you do is get phantasms up and watch them pwn while you autoattack. I’ve played every proff and the most engaging character is the Elementalist, it’s unfortunate I don’t like caster classes because I would love for my thief to play that way.

inb4 sometimes you switch to S/S and blur frenzy.

I don’t know, dungeons are part of PVe and some of that stuff isn’t quite faceroll easy.

Take a look at this video about DEs. I think you’ll be impressed.

Gele.2048:

Vayne.8563:

20 emotes isn’t almost zero. Everyone gets a free dance…other dances are sold in the store. I’m not sure what more you expected?

compare to any OUTER mmo its low and compare to gw 1 is EPICLy low i know we got no subs but that store got bilion things and arena ent is greedy and greedy whit each patch they add more things there and teh gold for gem is no WAY 4 gold for 100 gems

Anet is greedy? Okay. I guess the free monthly content I’ve been playing I’ve been paying for. Oh Anet is greedy for selling a couple of dances.

There are definitely some things I haven’t agreed with in the cash shop but dances aren’t among them. Dances are fair game.

Parisalchuk.9230:

Meglobob.8620:

I think everything they look into…will be addressed at some point…there track records pretty good actually…they do listen to there player base…

…it just takes TIME…often the solution to a problem is not as easy as some people think…

Remember they are working on these, well giving us regular new features/content…

Different teams are looking into these problems then are releasing the monthly content, which compared to holiday events is rather… meager (15 min quest per month sure is great! sarcasm).

Don’t know about you but I saw an awful lot of praise for both SAB and the new dungeon. You might have missed it, but I sure didn’t.

Parisalchuk.9230:

Vayne.8563:

Parisalchuk.9230:

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

Just a few off the top of my head:

Culling problems in WvW – looked into and fixed

Culling problems in PvE – looked into and fixed (see upcoming patch announcement)

Certain Legendary weapons not counting towards achievement
– looked into and fixed

Ability to preview gear on TP
– looked into and fixed

Not enough higher level loot dropping
– looked into and fixed (this may be controversial, but we do get guaranteed rares from boss chests, now)

I am sure we could all come up with lots more on either side of the issue, if we looked through all the dev posts and patch notes.

They didnt fix high level loot not dropping, they fixed a different issue of events not being rewarding enough. These are 2 very different things.

Depends on what you mean. For example, sometimes you’d kill a champion and get nothing, and that hasn’t happened to me in a long time. Admittedly you might only get a blue, but that’s all that was guaranteed. And that was fixed.

Which loot dropping problem, specifically, are you talking about?

They stated that the game is not rewarding enough. Do you think getting a blue is rewarding for killing a random champion roaming the world when I can go kill a normal mob and get the same loot?

Separately they stated that completing a difficult even should reward better, and they fixed that by adding guaranteed rare drops, something that is worth the reward for staying 30 mins to fight a dragon or do some other lengthier event.

They did state the game was not rewarding enough. The also said you should get a guaranteed drop of blue or higher from a champion. That’s exactly what they said and what they did. A champion is not the game. They’ve increased rewards in certain areas. I know I’m making a lot more money now than I did three, four months ago.

Saying what you want to happen didn’t happen, and saying nothing happened is two different things.

Mathias.9657:

Wolfheart.1938:

Mathias.9657:

hilariously enough it is usually the best DPS as well.

DPS rotations are boring and unnecessary. They don’t add anything fun or engaging to the gameplay. Why do you feel that having 4 (filler) skills that have to be used in a particular order to be of any use?

Synergy is more entertaining to me than sitting there having my auto attack do a rotation, and yes they have a built in rotation. It’s just less engaging.

Why do you feel pressing 1 button as opposed to 4 is more fun? Rotations like in WoW aren’t just 1234 either, it all depends on the situation you’re in what skills you use after. I don’t always have 4-5 finishers on my rogue up. It isn’t that simple, sometimes I go straight for burst and ignore increased attack speed and healing which are more for prolonged fights.

There is never a be all end all rotation that you do every time. GW2 definitely has rotations they are just hidden well. Thief: autoattack until revealed done, stealth backstab repeat. Mes: get clones up, shatter. I could go on, but you get my point. I could even go so far as to point out the amazing builds like unicorn sin that just spams 3 and autoattack, 2 buttons not counting the occasional caltrops and dodge.

Combat isn’t quite as dynamic in other MMOs but they certainly excel with skill usage and variety. Maybe if utilities weren’t on hilariously long cooldowns I wouldn’t get so bored? GW1 did it right with autoattack not being a skill, then having 8 skills to work with and you can change them out at any time in an outpost in a pool of thousands of skills.

How we went from that to this is… I don’t even know. Baffling.

Mesmers get clones up and then shatter? lol. Do you main a mesmer?

Different shatters accomplish different things. Which shatter you use, one of the four, could sell depend on the situation. In fact, there’s a lot of strategy in just when and how to bring clones up as a mesmer. And not all mesmers even use clones some, like me, perfer phantasm builds. I shatter a whole lot less than a clone mesmer.

One thing you always have to watch as a mesmer is how close your target is to death, because summoning your clones on a dying target means waiting for your recharge before casting it on the next target.

If you’re playing the profession badly you’re just calling up clones and blowing them up, mindlessly. If you’re playing the profession well, it’s a bit more involved.

20 emotes isn’t almost zero. Everyone gets a free dance…other dances are sold in the store. I’m not sure what more you expected?

Parisalchuk.9230:

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

Just a few off the top of my head:

Culling problems in WvW – looked into and fixed

Culling problems in PvE – looked into and fixed (see upcoming patch announcement)

Certain Legendary weapons not counting towards achievement
– looked into and fixed

Ability to preview gear on TP
– looked into and fixed

Not enough higher level loot dropping
– looked into and fixed (this may be controversial, but we do get guaranteed rares from boss chests, now)

I am sure we could all come up with lots more on either side of the issue, if we looked through all the dev posts and patch notes.

They didnt fix high level loot not dropping, they fixed a different issue of events not being rewarding enough. These are 2 very different things.

Depends on what you mean. For example, sometimes you’d kill a champion and get nothing, and that hasn’t happened to me in a long time. Admittedly you might only get a blue, but that’s all that was guaranteed. And that was fixed.

Which loot dropping problem, specifically, are you talking about?

Yep, there have been plenty of fixes, but there’s still a whole lot of work left to do. The way the OP is phrased makes it look like the OP is trying to “hold Anet accountable” for stuff they say, which is fair enough. However, something being looked at doesn’t mean something will be changed…it’s a kittenumption.

I used to say the same thing. A customer would complain about something I’d say I’ll look into it. Sometimes the thing the customer complained about came to nothing. So nothing was done about it.

Some things, of course, get fixed.

So if the intent of the OP is organized of stuff people are asking for, kudos.

If the intent of the OP is to try to hold a game company to account because of perceived promises that aren’t promises at all…not so good in my opinion.

tomshreds.1745:

Thanks for your responses, I’m glad to see people are happy with the game now. I come back from mmorpg.com’s forums and it’s full of “GW2 was a lie” and “GW2 is dead” threads. But hey haters gonna hate I guess XD

I’ll surely hop into the game later today, and since my old Reddit guild dropped me I’ll be looking for another big community-oriented guild. But please no crazy “gotta interview you over the phone and ask you questions about your raiding schedule” kinda guilds hehe

You’re welcome

My guild is probably too small for you, from the sounds of it. Though we have 90 people or so, we have a core of about 25 people who are on a lot. A lot of people are just casual members, who log in a couple of times a week.

The core group is pretty good, but if you’re looking for a larger group, there are plenty of options. Also, it depends on what server you’re on, since server transfers are no longer free.

You should try to find a decent guild on your server.

Tachenon.5270:

Vayne.8563:

Tachenon.5270:

Vayne.8563:

Go play something else and come back when there’s more content. It’s not an unreasonable thing to suggest.

That might work if the new content wasn’t, ya know, temporary.

Umm, why? You mean you can’t follow the game and come back and play temporary content?

You can’t come back and play content that’s no longer available due to being, ya know, temporary.

Oh, sure, you could come back and catch the current temporary content of the month/quarter/whatever but that’s all too soon over and you’re left with that old dilemma of having nothing new left to do. On the other hand, you could come back and play permanent content that’s accumulated since you left and have lots of stuff to catch up on.

Which would you prefer?

Okay so someone hasn’t played a lot of the game, they come back and there’s nothing to do? I’m not sure I’m following you.

There are advantages and disadvantages to the way the game is doing stuff. I’m not so sure someone coming back wanting to do story mode dungeons is going to be way happy, because it’s hard to find groups for story mode dungeons.

This ways there’s always something going on and there’s a concentration of players for it. The way some athletes like to retire at the height of their abilities instead of when they’re older and less valuable, the same can be said for content.

Plenty of dungeons I loved for a month and then never wanted to do again.

Actually there are quite a few “quality of life” upgrades that people tend to overlook. Simple stuff like you can new preview most things like armor and weapons on the trading post…even dyes. Like the WvW siege stuff is now account bound. There were changes early on even to the character’s view. Culling has been removed in WvW. PvP maps have been added.

On top of that, guild missions have been added, and while everyone seems to complain about bounties (though my guild likes them for the most part), the guild rushes are absolutely awesome.

They’ve redone AC (a lot of people complain about that too lol), changed Orr quite a bit (for both positive and negative depending on who you ask), added some new jumping puzzles and quests (like the skritt burglar), changed dailies so you can pick the five you want to do out of 9 or 10…there’s a lot of quality of life issues that have been done. I’m sure I’m forgetting a few too.

No worries, mate. There’s a great video on DEs, I’ll see if I can find it. It’s really top notch.

Shanaeri Rynale.6897:

robocafaz.9017:

Dude, like everything you listed was stuff that wasn’t added to GW1 until later updates… Nothing was removed, they just haven’t been added yet.

Contrary to popular nostalgia-bespectacled beliefs, GW1 didn’t launch with everything you see in it today.

I’ve seen this argument a lot, even before launch. Of course GW1 didnt launch with all those features there. Anet learned a lot from GW1 launch and applied those lessons.

Where the argument falls down is that to make it true then every lesson learned from GW1 had been forgotten or discarded in between GW1 and GW2. I.e They learned no lessons (or decided to forget/defer them until later) and in effect threw every thing away.

As for RP servers etc. I’m not sure how you can ever do this unless the RP server is totally segregated from everyone else and some degree of moderation is performed. Otherwise it’ll become a troll magnet.

Custom chat channels, a more flexible UI etc are all features that any AAA MMO should have had from launch, but obviously did not have the priority at the time.

I don’t buy this. Guild Wars 2, at launch was a FAR more ambitious game than Guild Wars 1. From experience, Guild Wars devs did learn stuff…but not the stuff you think they learned. They learned that people burn through content FAST, and there better be a lot of it. So they focused on making as much content as they could…knowing at some point they’d have to launch without some of the bells and whistles, even stuff they annouced like guesting.

It’s not that they don’t know this stuff is important, so much as they had X amount of time to do stuff before release. It’s the same with all MMOs. after release you play catch up. Then you try to get an LFG tool out, etc, etc.

Knowing something is very different than being able to do something about it.

Games like Rift launched with a very small world and a relatively small amount of content, but it was a very stable world. Until they started making updates and fixing skills and then it become a mess.

Guild Wars 2 launched sloppily (even the trading post didn’t work), but they kept working on stuff, and ironed out a lot of problems. This is what most MMOs end up having to do.

No one has enough time to program a big, working game with all the bells and whistles. You either have a perfectly working tiny game, a really big, buggy game without lots of bells and whistles, or a bunch of features, but no game.

I think Anet made the right choice.

Well some people do actually complain, but no one pays attention to them. lol

Plenty of stuff has happened since. Also plenty of nice guilds out there (including mine). I don’t want to make this a whole guild recruitment thing though.

A lot of the content is “alive”. The living story comes and goes, so that there’s usually different stuff to do each month. There’s new stuff coming on May 14th for example.

So just jump on in, the water’s fine.

Burnfall.9573:

To Vayne, I encourage you to reread my post

“There was plenty of complaining on Guild Wars 1 forums about favoritism of certain professions. Maybe you missed it”.

Obviously, with the introduction of ‘dual class system complaints of ’favoritism’. And ‘if you had missed it’- their interaction to the community helped them resolved it.

If gw2 were to introduce ‘dual-class’ system, wouldn’t people also complain of favoritism? Obviously yes. Imagine having a dual theif/ and a war/, a lot of people would certainly ‘raise hell’

And to your last comment of ‘And much of what Guild Wars 1 great, was also what made Guild Wars 1 unsustainable’.

What are you talking about?

Any former gw1 players will disclaim this.

By the way, I have a feeling you’re an Elitist, ‘Favorite’ class.

It’s obvious I didn’t ‘miss it’

‘In no means of disrespect’

I’m a former Guild Wars 1 player. I have 50/50 in my HoM and I have the GWAMM title. I played Guild Wars 1 for five years.

Some of what made Guild Wars 1 a great game was the build flexibility. This is also what made the game impossible to balance. It led to builds like sabway, dual 600 monks, discord builds, the ursan nonsense, perma-sins and several other debacles over the years, which then had to be nerfed. The addition of ritualists as a profession in the game made the game so easy, that most of the game, even in hard mode, could be easily done with heroes. My wife and I ran all of DOA with a six hero team. The very flexibility that made the game great, also caused a huge amount of problems.

There are several examples of how Guild Wars 1 was great, but for each great thing about it, someone else thought those things were crap. The addition of heroes is great for solo players, but group players endlessly complained about it, saying there was no reason for people to party anymore. Due to the introduction of heroes many people left the game.

Guild Wars 1 had a lot going for it but ultimately it was unsustainable because of some of the design decisions made by the devs. Why do you think they made different design decisions this time around?

Tachenon.5270:

Vayne.8563:

Go play something else and come back when there’s more content. It’s not an unreasonable thing to suggest.

That might work if the new content wasn’t, ya know, temporary.

Umm, why? You mean you can’t follow the game and come back and play temporary content?

Burnfall.9573:

Interesting title OP.

All I can tell you, gw2 has barely anything to do with gw1; everything you mentioned is correct concerning the comparison to the community, staff, developers etc..

Everything that made GW1 great – is being removed.

Gw2 has and will continue to separate itself from gw1 in every manner; what had worked well in gw1 is no longer in existence in gw2. The ideas, the passion and the mechanics are no longer viable in gw2, it’s quite obvious.

To be honest, I see gw2 as a New mmo in no relation to its ancestral roots.

Gw1 had never implemented ‘stealth’ mechanics, gw1 never practiced favoritism of certain classes, gw1 had never implemented a system of “Elitism”, the list goes on……….

And those made gw1 great and a fair player in the mmo world.

My encouragement to you OP is to see gw2 as a new mmo from ground-up and unfortunately accept it this way if you can.

“There is no going back”

There was plenty of complaining on Guild Wars 1 forums about favoritism of certain professions. Maybe you missed it.

And much of what Guild Wars 1 great, was also what made Guild Wars 1 unsustainable.

Im Mudbone.1437:

Every mini I have ever gotten are account bound and I have a few.

The ones bought from the cash shop as “special” pets are account bound. The 3 pack minis, which number far more than the special pets, are all free to trade.

Just type in mini in a search in the Marketplace and see for yourself.

The special minis don’t count toward the minipet achievement btw.

Behellagh.1468:

No by the dungeon. I’m have enough trouble noticing when someone tries to chat we me while playing and the chat window is on screen. I imagine I wouldn’t alt-tab back to the browser often enough to see if someone answered my request. It’s not like I have multiple screens at home so I can multitask a full screen game with a browser with all the useful sites running on the other.

I guess you never tried the site. Post on the site, don’t go back to it at all, and tell people to whisper you in game. You’ll get parties much faster.