Guild Wars 2

GuardianOMS.8067:

Has SBI and CD tried to dp Maguuma yet? If not, why? Seems like a smart thing to do.

Nope, it’s pretty stupid actually. On average Mag has more players than CD or SBI, so if SBI goes to attack Mag, CD can either attack Mag also and face resistance because Mag has more than enough players, or we can attack SBI and face no resistance because all of their players are attacking Mag. Since Mag keeps/towers and SBI keeps/towers are worth the same number of points, it makes sense to attack the easier target. At the same time, CD knows that SBI will also realize this, so it doesn’t make sense for us to attack Mag first either because we know that SBI will go through the same decision making process and choose to attack us over Mag.

Deathdom.8250:

I feel like this thread needs to be more active. So I found this ranking made by somebody from EBay in their matchup thread.
Maguuma – t3/4
Yaks Bend – t3/4
Ehmry Bay/SBI – t4/5
Borlis Pass – t5 strength (t4 population)
Crystal Desert – t5/6
Let us discuss this now.

Seems legit. I’m sure Borlis Pass would beat us, unfortunately they have never been in a tier high enough to fight us yet, so it remains highly speculative.

Murderin.8269:

GuardianOMS.8067:

Despite this matchup being the mother of all coverage imbalances, I’m having fun. I’ve been fighting outmanned when I play and though it’s annoying it’s not at painful as it used to be.

Murderin.8269:

I don’t hate the people, just the fact that our server is backwards and has no population during what should be the prime time.

If you don’t have a strong attachment to your server, playing on one that coincides with your play time might be best.

Probably the best idea.

The few good commanders we have gave up on this match already. Now we just have one that shouts random lines from 300 in all caps.

Haha, I know who you’re talking about :p.

I feel like we have an old married couple relationship with Maguuma.

Kodiack.2783:

Maguuma, Dragonbrand, Ebay, CD and now add IoJ. At one point or another they couldn’t compete in T4 and dropped. Came down here and rofl-stomped on what should be T6 .

CD has never been in T5, in fact we’ve never even played against BP. Unless you’re talking about happenings in an alternate universe of course.

Insignia.6345:

Hello again Mag/Sbi cant wait for another intense week. A lil off topic but am i the only one that would LOVE to see Cd vs. Sbi vs. Ebay? And think that mag/yaks is in a tier 4.5 so to speak? No hate, i love fighting you mag on of my fave servers to play against and sbi surprised us last week and almost took 2nd, look forward to trying to hold that spot against you guys again!

Nope, I want that match up as well. I miss killing all of Ebay’s “Elite” roaming squads. Also, I think it would be a pretty even match-up rather than SBI focusing CD because they want 2nd, CD focusing SBI because they want to keep second, and Mag attacking whoever they want whenever they want because they can.

ChapDev.7650:

Halo.8976:

I love this wonderful time before resets… http://imgur.com/a/s1Tfp

Hellstrof you just made my day.

For those who might wonder, the Flame Ram won the duel against the Veteran Guard.

Ohhhhhhhh, so flame ram is the counter to veteran guards. I’ve been wondering how to beat those.

dreztina.4820:

saiyr.3071:

dreztina.4820:

ParaldaWind.4523:

So, I kind of want to go back to T3… To any Maguuma players reading this, pretend I’m online and take some keeps.

Please no.

Seems unlikely this week given how long it took us to close the morning point gap yesterday. But if it makes you feel better, Dragonbrand was completely dominating NA prime time for the past few days, to give you a feel for how SoS is.

I know why people want to go back to T3, and I don’t like being on the winning server either, but despite the population difference, I got more good fights this week than I have in a very long time. I just don’t want to go back to fighting zerg servers with zero roamers. Mag will almost certainly go back the week after, but even just one more week of decent wvw would be very nice.

I agree the number of good fights this week was surprising given the population imbalance. I would say YB outnumbers us by the same margin as Mag, but there were few to any good fights I remember having with them.

Looks like were in for another week with the MaGrub.

Covenant.1238:

Had a blast with the 5v5 and 10v10 tonight [PYRO], glad we were finally able to get together. According to millenium we’ll be fighting again this next week so let’s do it again sometime?

Well, there is a 0.1 difference in the rating between Maguuma and YB, so I’m not sure we are still fighting Mag next week.

wish.3102:

Ironvos.9014:

If this does indeed happen and thieves start dropping dead everywhere cause they can’t chainstealth and can’t abuse culling anymore, i sure hope they wait about 6 months aswell before buffing the thief

That sounds like a good way to lose whatever percentage of your player base plays THF.

I would be fine with that.

Making revealed apply every time you come out of stealth is the greatest change to this game so far. That in addition to removing culling will dethrone the thief as the king of WvW. 6 months was a pretty good run for them though.

I would honestly just be happy if I had a Mortal Kombat voice say “FINISH HIM!” whenever I down somebody in PvP.

Pinko.2076:

Murderin.8269:

Insignia.6345:

Murderin.8269:

We are gonna end up in 3rd this week if people don’t stop zerging one map at a time on CD.

Hard to do when we cant even fill 1 map let alone multiple.

True. Hopefully we get a less lame matchup next week.

Sorry to say, but you’re getting us, yaks, or someone else from t3 til the end of time. Are you saying you prefer Yaks over us?

Not necessarily, trust me, I’ve been running Monte Carlo simulations on this stuff. Borlis Pass is taking the lead in Tier 5, and it’s only a matter of time before EB and DR lose motivation to play WvW and give BP massive point gain (+BP will gain lots of fair weather players). This launches BP into Tier 4, and the fair weather effect on SBI due to smashing Tier 5 will likely last long enough for them to overtake us soon, meaning CD will go to tier 5. That will make a CD/EB/DR match which will be extremely balanced, although they will likely still complain about night capping.

Hey Maguuma, you are defending the wrong tower.

ParaldaWind.4523:

Hey SBI and CD, you guys are pretty cool. You’ve both done really well considering you’re post exodus.

However, you should post on here more. It’s the closest to WvW I can get during the day.

I actually prefer fighting Maguuma to Yaks Bend as they have a habit of complaining about us night capping even as they have twice our score, which always makes me scratch my head a bit.

Volrath.1473:

Waffler.1257:

Hexin.5603:

Not true, even traited with gear for duration, thieves have a window open on CD’s. Often will leverage CnD on npc’s in the area not to use there utilities.

Here’s one of the first videos I found on Youtube by typing in perma stealth thief, please point out where the CD window is that you can see the thief to attack.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSbw8Cpy-3s

Video is outdated, stealth doesn’t stack like that anymore, d/p thieves are harmless if you died to one that you probably played bad. Plus to stop him from stealth all you had to do was get close to the smoking ring on the flor, one of the heart seeker will surely hit you and trigger reviled.

Which patch changed that? Most of the thieves I fight use this technique to stay in stealth indefinitely, including ones I’ve seen 1-2 days ago. And sure they won’t burst you down in a second or two like other thief builds, but in the wide open area of WvW you don’t need burst to kill another player when you can always stay just out of range and remain untargetable with stealth. I personally don’t die to them because I play a healing power guardian so there are very few things that can kill me, but I don’t waste my time trying to kill thieves either.

Otaur.9268:

Waffler.1257:

Thieves can stay invisible forever if they want, so you won’t ever kill one in a 1v1 or even a 2v1 unless they let you. I would just suggest to build your char to have lots of toughness, vitality, healing and run to a group of allies or group of npc guards if you see a thief. This will cause the thief to run away in search of easier targets.

This is the most flawed and absurd suggestion ever. No one class should force another to run full tank / with group just because they are in the area… How about fixing Thief, either by making Revealed debuff last 10seconds instead of 3 and some actual cooldowns.

I never said I think thieves are fine, just saying the best way to currently deal with them. Thieves are what they are, and if you go glass cannon on any other class except a thief and maybe a mesmer you will get smoked by a thief.

Hexin.5603:

Not true, even traited with gear for duration, thieves have a window open on CD’s. Often will leverage CnD on npc’s in the area not to use there utilities.

Here’s one of the first videos I found on Youtube by typing in perma stealth thief, please point out where the CD window is that you can see the thief to attack.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSbw8Cpy-3s

Thieves can stay invisible forever if they want, so you won’t ever kill one in a 1v1 or even a 2v1 unless they let you. I would just suggest to build your char to have lots of toughness, vitality, healing and run to a group of allies or group of npc guards if you see a thief. This will cause the thief to run away in search of easier targets.

This is pretty basic stuff.

I highly doubt 99% of WvW players know if either their allies or their enemies are wearing ascended gear or not, so any information you collect will likely be completely made up. When fighting someone else, a WvW player will know whether they win or lose, but player opinions on why they won or lost are due to a number of variables including: the other player’s skill level (subjective), their own skill level (very subjective), the other player having better/worse gear than they had, the other player being a higher/lower level than they were, the other player having a terrible/overpowered build, the other player playing an underpowered/overpowered class, etc. Ascended gear does have better stats than exotic so at the margin it will make a difference, but there will be very few instances where the extra stats will change the outcome of a fight.

Ebay hates me :’(.

santi.7516:

Maguuma is not even a half of what they want you guys to believe, don’t let them crush your morale. specially you CD, you’re one of the rare jewels of tier 4.

Am I a pretty jewel?

Sovereign.1093:

santi.7516:

It took ages for CD to take Lowlands against 6 pugs with a 50+ zerg lol, you guys needs more practice, and better commanders.

:3 It was only 15 of us who charged into lowlands.

You didn’t read the forum posting rule book? When posting about battles you lose, you must always take the number of defender you have and divide that by 3. Then you take the number of attackers the enemy has and multiply that by 5. Then you make a sentence with those numbers and talk about how pathetic they are.

geekanerd.4123:

I see diversity in WvW all the time. All the thieves and mesmers have different haricuts, armor, faces, and what not. I always take note of how diverse the character creator allows an individual to be whilst being kitten by a thief/mesmer/guardian zerg. I mean, after I’ve been stomped, not much else to do other than take in the toons trampling over my broken, sad little body.

That’s amazing that you can see the haircuts and faces of the thieves. I just hear dagger noises and see puffs of smoke. Occasionally I’ll see some assassin’s creed lookin mutha off in the distance running away.

Klaster.2605:

If a lot of people come we might get the queue bug. :P So maybe we shouldn’t ask people to come over.

This. I don’t want other servers infecting us with their queue bug.

Sovereign.1093:

Funny battles and finishing moves in WVW. Is fun, especially running in a party filled with guild mates, and good CD players.

I summon the power of the Crimson Lord of Moose.

It looks like you’re asking that moose to dance.

Anyone else see it?

The three highest ranked servers are currently Jade Quarry, Sea of Sorrows, and Sanctum of Rall. Whether these are the “best” servers depends on your criteria.

No queue bug on Crystal Desert either.

Chiolas.1326:

Superior Trebuchet – Additions
+Damage is displayed regardless of distance (should be added to the regular version as well)

I already see damage numbers if I do damage with a treb, even on far away locations (garrison -> bay)

Yep, you should always see damage numbers from trebs regardless of the range. If you don’t, it means you aren’t hitting anything.

ghtchill.7613:

Waffler.1257:

Hmm, everyone transfers to the top servers creating a few jam-packed servers and a whole lot of empty ones, and now you guys decide that Anet’s queue system is broken because it takes you forever to get into WvW. It’s not a coincidence, queues will happen when 80% of the WvW population are on 20% of the servers. I’m on CD and have no queues anywhere… ever.

Again. What people are saying here is that there were very long queues when the map was not full, or even close to full. I waited almost 2 hours to get into a BL only to find there weren’t many of us there at all. I tried other BLs and never did get in, while others were reporting that the map in those BLS were not full.

Put it this way. It was like lining up at a popular club watching the bouncer let 2 people in every half hour and then once finally in myself finding the club half empty. That’s what was happening. Definitely seems like a problem to me.

Every person I see complaining about long queues are in tiers 1-3. Where is your evidence that the map is not full? Here is a link from a post (https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Any-Tarnished-Coast-citizens-agree/first#post1334270) Habib made a few days ago when TC complained about the same problem, they see nothing on their end and I tend to trust their queries more than players’ anecdotal evidence.

Hmm, everyone transfers to the top servers creating a few jam-packed servers and a whole lot of empty ones, and now you guys decide that Anet’s queue system is broken because it takes you forever to get into WvW. It’s not a coincidence, queues will happen when 80% of the WvW population are on 20% of the servers. I’m on CD and have no queues anywhere… ever.

Interesting thing about the Glicko rating system is since it only accounts for the magnitude of a server winning within their tier, it’s possible that the best server would never reach the #1 spot. For instance, say that SoS, SoR, and JQ are so evenly matched that the score is dead even at the end of the week and will place them all in tier 5. Even though they would beat the servers in tiers 1-4, because they are stuck fighting each other, they will never be able to progress to higher tiers since their relative WvW performance is static. Although that scenario is extremely unlikely, I hope that some adjustment is made so that the next couple of months aren’t too painful.

Yeah, ratings reset was kind of an odd decision. While the tiers were messed up after everyone and their uncle transferred to a new server, I don’t think they were ruined enough to merit completely resetting the rating. Now for instance, based on prior match-ups it looks like Ebay will win by the largest margin making them the new #1 server, when realistically they should be in tier 4. The tier 1 servers meanwhile, which have the most 24/7 coverage and will end up with the closest scores, will be dropped to mid-tier giving us another month of one-sided matches.

If you want a legendary weapon you will have to participate in all aspects of the game, yes that includes PvP. I hate running dungeons, but that doesn’t mean Anet will change the game to give me insta-finish dungeon mode so that I can get the tokens I need.

I’m glad we have TC’s blessing, this match just wouldn’t be the same without it.

Neverwinter online looks like a terrible game, I can’t believe they think anyone is actually going to play it. If anything is going to take a chunk out of the GW2 player base, it will most likely be the Elder Scrolls online.

If you die next to the big loot chest, it should turn into an obese quaggan that just sits there laughing at you.

I want to face Maguuma, I need to sharpen my forum PvP skills and think they would make excellent practice. Unfortunately, it doesn’t look like we’ll be facing off anytime soon.

Altie.4571:

The fraps you posted there is not the issue that Anet fixed.

Anet installed a fix that gives credit if a player is DOWNED and exits the game. That ranger exited just before he was to be downed. It’s a way of alt f4 without the penalty it seems.

Now the OP said that his opponent was in a downed state. That could be a hack of sorts.

I thought it gives credit as long as the player is in combat and exits the game.

Liewec.2896:

put spikes on their keyboard so it hurts their face when they roll it across!
there!
d/d countered!

This made me lol.

I will say one thing about this match up, it has given me a greater appreciation for the exotic creature known as the Yak’s Bend WvW player. After hours of wading through seas of blue D/D eles and thieves, I finally manage to spot the elusive red YB player and stand still in awe. Then my memory is jogged, “Oh yeah” I think, “This is a match with three servers in it.” I prepare to take a screen shot of the Yak to give my fellow CD players as proof that they still exist, but before I can press the button, the Yak players is consumed by a sea of blue and danced upon like some piece of trash.

Haldunius.7864:

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

Arcadio.6875:

Dragonbrand doesn’t even get to have their own nickname.

Because we don’t need one. Everyone knows who we are and there’s no negative connotation involved.

I, personally, love that.

I think they should have a nickname. Something that references Rodney Dangerfield. Dangerbrand? Dragonrod?

If you look at their rating evolution http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/35/#history,
it looks kind of like a parabola. Maybe call them Parabolabrand?

1. You see a lot of elementalists because d/d eles are almost impossible to kill unless you have a group with a lot of CC, and they have really good mobility.
2. You see a lot of thieves because they also have really good mobility, can turn invisible, and can kill most players in 2 seconds.
3. You see a lot of mesmers because they have portal.
4. You see a lot of guardians because they are the only class that can survive thief burst with any kind of consistency, and thieves are everywhere in WvW.

Other classes can’t match the above classes for DPS, survivability, or utility so you don’t see them.

Ostricheggs.3742:

Basically what I’m trying to get at is that it’s too strong at the moment for how much time is invested in taking it. Either reduce how effective it is or increase the time it takes to cap it!

You know you can interrupt people capping buffs right? It will only take 5 seconds to cap if nobody is trying to stop you, in which case the other team is either making a strategic decision to ignore the buff or doesn’t know what’s going on and deserves to lose. Buffs can’t be too strong since each team knows where the buffs spawn, when they spawn, and what they do. If you think the buff will make you win the game then tell your whole team to stop holding points and get to the buff spawn to cap it.

saiyr.3071:

CHIPS.6018:

saiyr.3071:

39g? Your bounties put ours to shame

Psssh that’s only like $5 real money. Can’t even buy a hamburger with that. :P

I don’t remember gems getting you so much gold cough

He’s probably talking about hot GW2 gold, if ya know what I mean.

I don’t want your welfare weapons! I have my own thank you very much.

Judas.5432:

Waffler.1257:

Deathdom.8250:

FYI, make sure you screenshot it if you kill any Kaineng commander from RISE. There’s a 39g bounty right now for a certain someone from there.

Wow, time to load up GW2 and go commander hunting

Not so easy as you might think against a good commander. Doable but not just by roaming around in a small group hunting for an enemy commander. You need to lay traps, force engagements on your own terms, and corner their forces in unexpected ways.

A good RISE, CO, or WM commander (sorry for the guilds I’ve left out) will likely be keeping a solid view over the progress of any battle and already have a viable escape plan for those willing to listen to them. If things start to go sour, they will call for a regrouping and back away from the fight.

You will have to be Ender, seeking out the single queen Bugger amid the swarm of enemies ;-)

Well all the commanders I’ve seen so far are at the front of their zerg, so you just burst them down as they charge you and you get a dead commander. Only difference I’ve noticed between them and normal players is that they tend to run a lot more.