Guild Wars 2

Solandri.9640:

I didn’t have time to do a full gauntlet of tests. But the small sample I collected suggests they “fixed” the cat critical damage bug by simply lowering the normal damage range, rather than restoring the previous critical damage range.

Prior to the Feb patch, the cats’ Maul skill did:
- about 2x the damage of a regular hit on the first attack
- about 4x the damage of a regular hit on the second attack

After the Feb patch, Maul did:
- about 1.5x the damage of a regular hit on the first attack
- about 3.5x the damage of a regular hit on the second attack
Criticals were goofy though

The numbers I’m seeing for Maul after this patch are:
- about 1.25x the damage of a regular hit on the first attack
- about 2.5x the damage of a regular hit on the second attack

Looking over the data, it looks like the Feb critical “bug” was caused by the coder lowering the minimum damage in the skill’s range but not the maximum, then doing the opposite for the damage range on criticals. I dunno why they’d code normal and crit damage ranges separately, or even code damage ranges at all when you can just code a coefficient and a + / – 10% spread, but that’s the hypothesis the data I collected best matches.

i.e. They intended to nerf cat maul in February, they just botched it resulting in the critical damage bug we saw. And this patch they’ve nerfed it correctly.

Just to reiterate, it does not affect overall DPS that much, since Maul is on a 20 sec cooldown. But it seriously reduces the cat’s burst damage. And Anet seems to be on a roll trying to reduce burst damage of late.

Rofl…

So Guard Nerf and Cat Burst Nerf…
Gee wonder why they did that..

Emerge.9640:

Yep, all they doing is keep trading

Warhammer2

Except Warhammer was actually fun PvP wise despite the keep trading.

It also had the Scenario system which again, vastly superior to this game.

In fact there isn’t much in this game that Warhammer Online didn’t do vastly better.

Cept maybe the 3 sides GW2 has.

Archaon.6245:

Wanderer.5471:

Archaon.6245:

kaplis.7195:

Should this be acceptable? Especially when the ranger can build super tanky and remove all the risk that glass cannons should have.

Pets going backstab now? Can we please drop our glass thief a take a pet instead? It deals same dmg, survives more and can get stealthed ppl…oh, and we don’t need to revive him every 30 secs…you just aim and forget…accordingly with ranger’s high skill cap..

1. this is 1 ability on a 20 second CD, compared to the plethora of skills thieves have which do as much dmg
2. of course thieves are far more durable even with 30 in BM
3. Birds can’t stealth, one cat can for around 10% of the time, but can’t do such high bursts.
4. oh and a thief can’t be countered by running in a circle or casually dodging ~ every 5 seconds. I could go on…

This would probably sound weird to you…but…do you know that behind those pets there’s also a ranger spamming traps everywhere? I know that you can be as bad as you want and those pets can still kill stuff for you but, we’re talkin’ about a pet…wtf at the moment, after this patch, pets alone are better than warriors…thx god those terrible pew pew noobs (Even worse than hs spammers) have troubles with quickness nerf too…at least they did something about that bs spec..quickness and just let autoattack go 24/7….just….lol

Hmm..

Is this the Mythical 30 Skirmishing/30 Wilderness/30 Beastmaster with i’m guessing that was Greatsword/Sickem/3 Traps/Signet of the Hunt and/or Signet of the Wild

Cause Beastmaster build is different from Trap Build.

You got killed by a Beastmaster, judging by what you were hit for, I’m guessing you were glass cannon with zero toughness.

This patch honestly made PvP worse in this game..I didn’t think it was possible to reward the zerg playstyle even more…but Anet surprised me yet again.

Holland.9351:

The removal of culling from WvW is great. So I like this patch.

I never used any form of quickness so I can’t miss it, but I might give the greatsword a try now.

I still hope to see some longbow buffs because it’s still my favorite weapon because of 1500+ range and Barrage AoE. These changes would make me happy:
- Long Range shot(1) attack speed increased and projectile speed increased some more.
- Rapid Fire(2) can be stopped by using other skills.
- Point Blank Shot(4) range increased to 1200 (1500 traited). Causes a knockdown instead of knockback beyond the current max range.
- Barrage(5) cooldown decreased by 10 seconds.

Its great till you realize that it and other features added have resulted in just giant blob zergs running around, of which we can’t use half our damage in it because of how awful they are in zerg fights.

we end up basically needing to use Longbow for any decent AOE….

If you honestly want to farm though, simply do a Thief..equip shortbow, and shoot the poison field everywhere….Farm points all day long..

tagnut.8621:

Right now the game design favors forming up into massive melee blobs (T1 EU we’re seeing 100-150 man french blobs) and run at things mashing 1. Ability lag is so awful that any defense doesnt work and siege is ineffective. lost a fully upgraded homeland keep in <2min that way – then you take your blob and chain roll round every keep. The bigger the blob, the worse the ability lag of your opponent.

Game is officially broken.

This is because the game rewards mindless zerging as there is really no fear of being wiped except by a bigger Zerg.

If this game had DAOC type PvP, that zerg would be wiped in seconds by some random 8 man running by.

GW2 though is a poor E-sport game that does WvW poorly…but at least the maps are pretty.

I’ll point out another example of something that bugs me about the Ranger class.

Signets, and their use abilities.

Every class in the game has Signets I believe except Engineer’s….Every class with Signet’s when they use a Signet they get the benefit directly on themselves usually, or it does something to the enemy.

However we as a class whenever we use a Signet it only does something for our pet. We have to invest 30 points into our Power line to get the ability to have it work on us as well.

Now some might say “Well if it worked on both of us, It’d be sort of overpowered because its working on 2 people”

However..Take this into account.

Our classes damage has be lowered to make up for the fact that we do have a pet. So whenever you’re using a Signet without that talent, You’re basically using an ability that only has an effect on HALF your damage…You’re getting less bang for your buck basically then every other class.

Then also doesn’t take into account things like Recharge time, We have the longest recharge on our Signets compared to every other class.

So Signets are actually less effective on this class then most other classes.

Bas.7406:

Xsorus.2507:

Bas.7406:

Come to the Necro Xsorus! You know you want too :P.

If I still had time to play a lot, I would actually finish working on the Necro, as I wanted to Minion Necro video (Yes I’m a masochist)

I am actually going to do a few Minion videos, I will let you know when they are up. Minions are ridiculously powerful when specced right. I wiped out a glamour mes until you figured out how to shatter them all at the same time. Minions are my favorite utility, but they have the same issues that ranger pets do except with a slightly more delayed response time. ;p. However you do get essentially a permanent cripple.

I’ve actually wanted to see some good PvP videos of Minion Mancers, so if you do make some, please send me a link to it.. cause i actually do want to watch it.

Bas.7406:

Come to the Necro Xsorus! You know you want too :P.

If I still had time to play a lot, I would actually finish working on the Necro, as I wanted to Minion Necro video (Yes I’m a masochist)

Its not just the Quickness nerf, and honestly the Quickness Nerf doesn’t actually have much of an affect on me as I didn’t use it a whole lot in the first place.

however each patch I see them pecking away at the different features of the class while not doing a whole lot to improve it.

Look at the improvements we’ve gotten since the start of the year.

Look at the nerfs, Guard/Empathetic Bond/quickness…All 3 of those hurt our class in some way that out weighed what we received in return.

Hell the EB nerf alone was brutal…

Now I’d say if Jon had came in Feb and made his original statements, I might consider still playing ….

However Jon came last year..and nothing has come from it, only more crap rained down from up high.

Look at the Engineer Changes this patch…They received in this one patch then we’ve received in the entire time since release.

Now i’m happy for them…But if we’re considered the crappiest class by Jons standards..Why are we continuing to eat brutal nerfs to our class with new icons to show for it.

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Its also not hard to figure out why we were played so much.

Because this game had a HUGE bot problem at the start, and Rangers make the best bots quite honestly…

I won’t have a whole lot of free time in the future, and I probably won’t continue to play this game much if at all either.

I honestly can’t push myself into playing this class any longer…Just so much wrong with the class currently, and honestly….playing harder for less result is never fun in any game.

Our pet system is just put together in such a terrible way that honestly baffles me..Cause so many games have came out in the past few years with actual good pet systems. Yet this game releases honestly one of the poorest pet systems i’ve seen in an MMO to date. What makes it worse is the fact that large amounts of what utility we have has been tied to this pet system and we’re left with such a mediocre class.

The Devs know this, They’ve came onto this forum month’s ago and said they know we have problems, Hell they even outlined some of the problems.

Signets/Shouts/Spirits.

That was in what? November? What has been done for those lines since then?

Signets, We received speed increase on Signet of the Hunt, along with every other class with the same Signet.

None of our other Signets were touched, When Jon Peters made that post did he just mean Signet of the Hunt was terrible? Or He just knew we had signets and took a wild guess if they sucked or not?

Shouts, What has been improved on them? Guard was improved till it was gutted again last patch…. So that shout is back to being useless again…and while i’m sure some random guy will come into this thread and say “Well gee, I use Guard all the time..Its the most amazing ability ever for making my pet stand off in the corner so he doesn’t die to a random fart from the boss mob!”. The Vast majority of us dropped it when its only useful feature was removed.

Sick’Em was really the only other buff, and I really want to like Sick’em, but wasting a utility on a ability that is tied to my pet who’s lets be frank..Couldn’t catch a legless sloth… isn’t exactly the best thing ever. Throw in the fact that if you do anything..It bloody cancels the buff for your pet, making it worthless half the time.

Protect Me should just titled Kill half my DPS

Search and Rescue should just titled Please Res the NPC 2 feet to the left who’s going to die 3 seconds later

Spirits….Not only did they not improve spirits at all to be useful to anyone…They went a head and gutted Guardians version of Spirits at the same time..While talking about how they didn’t want to do that to another class a week before they did it…

What has really been improved in the past few month’s?

Some underwater abilities that most of us don’t use at all? Don’t get me wrong..Thank you for improving my ability to shoot for 200 damage a pop underwater instead of 50…But yea…. I don’t think that’d work.

I will give them a small amount of Credit on Greatsword being buffed, as they’ve actually tried to improve it each patch…But really all they’re doing is trying to bring it back up to where it was in Beta slowly…

If you love playing the ranger, Continue to play it, Don’t let my opinion of the class change it for you.

All I ask is for the love of god level up another toon to 80 and play it…Trust me when I say its an eye opener on how flawed this class is.

Simply look at the Engineer Changes, That was a huge update for them, that changed a lot of things..

Then look at what they did with our class which has been more nerfs then good over the past few months

Dakarius.3284:

This nerf is much bigger than most realize. It hits an entire trait line in the face.

Here’s what it affects for my balanced (10/30/30) build
-blind on stealth goes from 3s cd to 4s cd
-cd on healing in stealth goes from 3s to 4s.
-cd on bs 3 to 4s (huge dps nerf)
-cd on condition removal 3s to 4s

So I received nerfs to damage and survivability beyond just having more visability. Meanwhile instagib thieves remain untouched because they don’t use the survivability from the shadow arts trait line.

I play a thief, and if you think this is a huge nerf, you’re lying so you don’t get nerfed more.

You will not land stealth every 3 seconds on the dot everytime…Unless you’re chaining stealth over and over again with CnD which most didn’t.

You will not notice this change at all in actual WvW.

They Copped Out of actually making stealth require a semblance of skill and decided to go with this pathetic measure so they didn’t hurt the easiest of classes to play.

Some of the changes are alright, Basically Great Sword Changes..

the QZ chain is a nerf, and increasing the duration by 1 second doesn’t make it better (remember you can’t be healed while this is up, so lowering its burst and increasing its DPS while having a no heal debuff increased is not a buff)

I still see no changes to Signets/Shouts/Spirits to improve them..

I still see no fixes for certain pet lines….

In fact, We mostly received more nerfs this patch..

Every patch it seems they improve one of the things they originally didn’t talk about (GS) but turn around and nerf something major on the class that ends up hurting us worse.

The only problem I have with the build right now (and you can run it for 1v1 and it is funny) is the whole way Sick Em right now is really wonky.

If Sick Em actually didn’t drop when you used other abilities it would be much much better.

Ultravalefor.5038:

I’d like to note, just because I don’t think I saw this mentioned as I skimmed the post—you do not have to be in range of anything with the Greatsword 5 to apply the damage buff to the pet, use it at the air, pet still gets the buff.

Yeap, just make sure you use Sick Em last after everything else…Cause it’ll go away soon as you use another ability, which is silly.

Leo G.4501:

Now that does look funny, guess they aren’t paying attention to a cat mauling their legs off

But didn’t they recently update it so pets can’t scale walls?

Yea, which i’m super POed about… ruined a perfectly good spec grin

but you really only use Guard near keeps, you can actually just use Signet of the Hunt everywhere else with similar idea.

Just send your pet in and let him eat people… It’s really quite funny.

P/D thieves can hit number 3 ability and teleport out of it..

Winneh.2064:

Any chance to get a vid of this build in action?
Sounds incredibly interesting!

Terra Dactyl.2047:

Xsorus.2507:

Lensar.4920:

Xsorus.2507:

Anet just doesn’t understand the game they poorly tried to copy (daoc) despite all their hype of “Oh we loved DAOC”

A lot of the DAOC Realm Abilities became some core concepts in GW2 character design.

http://www.darkageofcamelot.com/content/realm-abilities

I agree that they’re not nearly as impactful and defining as DAOC’s were, but long gone are the days when designers could get away with that level of affect in an earned system like WvW Abilities.

Rofl, you realize the amount of abilities DAOC has now without taking into account RA’s….

Vastly more then Guild Wars 2.

The new WvW abilities coming are being done kitten to try and stop the amount of players who are just quitting the game out right….They threw together the system in a very short time…

What does the “amount” of abilities have to do with anything, aside from cluttering your UI and making class balance even more of a nightmare?

The whole class balance thing is a cop out.

I’ve watched MMO developers continue to dumb down their game, and reduce the amount of options on class diversity…Remove the ability to distinguish your class from another, Remove the ability to have real options with your class only to have the same balance issues as games that didn’t have this option.

GW2 has had balance issues, just like DAOC, and comparable.. the difference is DAOC had 40+ classes, and a vastly more complex PVP and character system.. making it flat out the better game.

Hell at this point, GW2 can’t even compare to Warhammer Online, which is is like DAOCs kitten little brother..

Lensar.4920:

Xsorus.2507:

Anet just doesn’t understand the game they poorly tried to copy (daoc) despite all their hype of “Oh we loved DAOC”

A lot of the DAOC Realm Abilities became some core concepts in GW2 character design.

http://www.darkageofcamelot.com/content/realm-abilities

I agree that they’re not nearly as impactful and defining as DAOC’s were, but long gone are the days when designers could get away with that level of affect in an earned system like WvW Abilities.

Rofl, you realize the amount of abilities DAOC has now without taking into account RA’s….

Vastly more then Guild Wars 2.

The new WvW abilities coming are being done kitten to try and stop the amount of players who are just quitting the game out right….They threw together the system in a very short time…

Signet of the Wild, you have it equipped right?

It will give you aggression…

Because pets were put into this game kitten?

The double nerf to Empathetic Bond nerfed us pretty hard…

It also killed any hope that the developers actually know how to fix the Ranger class.

Far as i’m concerned, this game is dead and buried and is just a stepping stone till another game comes along (ESO/CU).

Your abilities, along with theirs are not very good, and provoke zero reason to actually both to do World vs World…

Though you at least a better job at it.

Anet just doesn’t understand the game they poorly tried to copy (daoc) despite all their hype of “Oh we loved DAOC”

Just a quick comment

Complaining about a video having a level gap problem is pretty silly, when you can tell who is level 80, and who isn’t in the video.

What do you think that Green Up Arrow means..

kuora.5402:

Xsorus.2507:

kuora.5402:

Xsorus.2507:

lordkrall.7241:

Xsorus.2507:

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/31584/star-wars-the-old-republic/

2.56 Million Copies sold

(Remember, this is copies sold, Not Subscribers)

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/37350/guild-wars-2/

Hmm yes

I would not trust those sources, since GW2 have sold over 3 million copies and that was quite some time ago.
The number show there were closer to the number of copies sold BEFORE release.

Its the Asian Markets that are probably not that accurate (13% is rather low)

WoW is kind of the same way, you can’t really track its Asian numbers very well.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/star-wars-the-old-republic-sells-2m-has-17m-active-subs-6349578

http://www.inquisitr.com/331128/guild-wars-2-sales-break-two-million-mark/
(This link also gives the numbers sold on SWTOR as well, which is about right)

This is the recent numbers on breaking 3 Million

http://www.polygon.com/2013/1/15/3878496/guild-wars-2-has-sold-three-million-copies-since-launch

That was in January, They sold 2 Million Copies at the start which is about Comparable to SWTOR at the start..

They’ve not broken 4 Million Copies yet, which suggest they’re slowing down on sales…

Since they’ve not gotten a Monthly fee either… That’s not a good sign.

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http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/09/13/guild-wars-2-sells-over-two-million-units

That was in September, They announced in January they sold 3 Million Copies total.

So it had slightly better sales then SWTOR did, and didn’t get the monthly fee to go with it.

You’re very useless in this thread atm. If you don’t want to contribute, make your own thread advertising your googling skills.

Thank you for your amazing post…

Thank you. It’s just like weeding out drugs.

No, seriously….Thank you…your post was awe inspiring….

I mean its not often you can contribute nothing to OP, along with the discussion going on at the time in thread itself..I mean its absolutely breath taking..

You sir, deserve a round of applause.

clap clap clap

kuora.5402:

Xsorus.2507:

lordkrall.7241:

Xsorus.2507:

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/31584/star-wars-the-old-republic/

2.56 Million Copies sold

(Remember, this is copies sold, Not Subscribers)

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/37350/guild-wars-2/

Hmm yes

I would not trust those sources, since GW2 have sold over 3 million copies and that was quite some time ago.
The number show there were closer to the number of copies sold BEFORE release.

Its the Asian Markets that are probably not that accurate (13% is rather low)

WoW is kind of the same way, you can’t really track its Asian numbers very well.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/star-wars-the-old-republic-sells-2m-has-17m-active-subs-6349578

http://www.inquisitr.com/331128/guild-wars-2-sales-break-two-million-mark/
(This link also gives the numbers sold on SWTOR as well, which is about right)

This is the recent numbers on breaking 3 Million

http://www.polygon.com/2013/1/15/3878496/guild-wars-2-has-sold-three-million-copies-since-launch

That was in January, They sold 2 Million Copies at the start which is about Comparable to SWTOR at the start..

They’ve not broken 4 Million Copies yet, which suggest they’re slowing down on sales…

Since they’ve not gotten a Monthly fee either… That’s not a good sign.

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http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/09/13/guild-wars-2-sells-over-two-million-units

That was in September, They announced in January they sold 3 Million Copies total.

So it had slightly better sales then SWTOR did, and didn’t get the monthly fee to go with it.

You’re very useless in this thread atm. If you don’t want to contribute, make your own thread advertising your googling skills.

Thank you for your amazing post…

lordkrall.7241:

Xsorus.2507:

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/31584/star-wars-the-old-republic/

2.56 Million Copies sold

(Remember, this is copies sold, Not Subscribers)

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/37350/guild-wars-2/

Hmm yes

I would not trust those sources, since GW2 have sold over 3 million copies and that was quite some time ago.
The number show there were closer to the number of copies sold BEFORE release.

Its the Asian Markets that are probably not that accurate (13% is rather low)

WoW is kind of the same way, you can’t really track its Asian numbers very well.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/star-wars-the-old-republic-sells-2m-has-17m-active-subs-6349578

http://www.inquisitr.com/331128/guild-wars-2-sales-break-two-million-mark/
(This link also gives the numbers sold on SWTOR as well, which is about right)

This is the recent numbers on breaking 3 Million

http://www.polygon.com/2013/1/15/3878496/guild-wars-2-has-sold-three-million-copies-since-launch

That was in January, They sold 2 Million Copies at the start which is about Comparable to SWTOR at the start..

They’ve not broken 4 Million Copies yet, which suggest they’re slowing down on sales…

Since they’ve not gotten a Monthly fee either… That’s not a good sign.

edit

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/09/13/guild-wars-2-sells-over-two-million-units

That was in September, They announced in January they sold 3 Million Copies total.

So it had slightly better sales then SWTOR did, and didn’t get the monthly fee to go with it.

Ehh, is this thread missing all the posts for everyone?

edit

Ahh there it goes.

Vena.8436:

Xsorus.2507:

SWTOR almost sold 2 Million copies (hell it probably did)

Hell Warhammer Online almost sold that many copies,

Both those games had Subscription fee’s

a Buy to Play MMO selling 2 Million Copies is a let down.

You are a master of logical fallacy (and failing to fact check your numbers).

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/31584/star-wars-the-old-republic/

2.56 Million Copies sold

(Remember, this is copies sold, Not Subscribers)

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/37350/guild-wars-2/

Hmm yes

lordkrall.7241:

Xsorus.2507:

The fact that you think those abilities you listed will let you take 5 Supply camps at the same time is rather laughable.

Let me clear this up, I can solo a supply camp in almost a Minute on my Ranger…SOLO

Unless those abilities let you flat out instant kill and instant cap the camp…There is no way your group will ever take 5 supply camps in the time it takes a group to take 1 supply camp.

You completely missed the point.

My point was that if those five people used these upgrades to make possible for each of them to solo-cap a camp, they would do a much better and more productive job than the same five people just capping one camp in that time.

Those same 5 people could go solo a cap slightly slower then those 5 people who just spent all their points on useless Guard Damage tiers..Hell…There is a good chance that those 5 people might actually solo faster then the people with Guard Damage tiers depending on their specs and gear.

unless you magically think that not having those passives is showhow keeping players from soloing camps right now (I’ve not seen a single spec that can’t mow through a Supply camp so far)

oZii.2864:

Xsorus.2507:

chrisk.4320:

If they want people to play this game, They should of started Months ago at starting Small, at this point they can’t afford to do that.
I don’t think people grasp how badly this game would be doing if it was Subscription based.

The game is doing fine, but keep with the sensationalism (as these forums are great at).

This game isn’t doing as good as you think it is.

Rofl a game with no subscription fee that already sold over 2 million copies probably more, with new posts on reddit pretty daily with people saying they are new to the game. I think it is doing fine. There is no sub fee people leave and come back this isn’t WoW lol.

SWTOR almost sold 2 Million copies (hell it probably did)

Hell Warhammer Online almost sold that many copies,

Both those games had Subscription fee’s

a Buy to Play MMO selling 2 Million Copies is a let down.

lordkrall.7241:

Xsorus.2507:

if you can’t blow through a camp already incredibly fast with a small group, I don’t know what to tell you?

The only thing that keeps people from killing a camp right now, is that little Flame Buff that Camp Leader gets after the camps been taken recently.

If you buy those first 3 abilities, You’re only gimping yourself.

So how is a small group (lets say 5) taking a supply camp better than 5 people taking 5 supply camps at the same time?

The fact that you think those abilities you listed will let you take 5 Supply camps at the same time is rather laughable.

Let me clear this up, I can solo a supply camp in almost a Minute on my Ranger…SOLO

Unless those abilities let you flat out instant kill and instant cap the camp…There is no way your group will ever take 5 supply camps in the time it takes a group to take 1 supply camp.

Chicho Gosho.6507:

Xsorus.2507:

Sithaco.4673:

Man, people need to stop complaining about this. Gosh. This is awesome, new abilities, no culling. I don’t even know what the problem is with ‘zerging’. Please explain?

You mean new passives, and the passives you get are crap..

The first 3, simply won’t be bought, Cause you can already solo these camps with ease…

The Next 3 are the best to buy

the last 2 are iffy, I’d say Cannon use will not be bought, Simply because the Cannon is the first thing to go when defending a keep.

Ballista might be bought, who knows..

As for Zerging, people look down on it because it requires zero skill, and is already over rewarded in this game.

The first 3 things are exactly what small groups need. Kill the guards, get the supply camp fast and move to the next one. You just want to find something to whine about.

if you can’t blow through a camp already incredibly fast with a small group, I don’t know what to tell you?

The only thing that keeps people from killing a camp right now, is that little Flame Buff that Camp Leader gets after the camps been taken recently.

If you buy those first 3 abilities, You’re only gimping yourself.

Sithaco.4673:

Man, people need to stop complaining about this. Gosh. This is awesome, new abilities, no culling. I don’t even know what the problem is with ‘zerging’. Please explain?

You mean new passives, and the passives you get are crap..

The first 3, simply won’t be bought, Cause you can already solo these camps with ease…

The Next 3 are the best to buy

the last 2 are iffy, I’d say Cannon use will not be bought, Simply because the Cannon is the first thing to go when defending a keep.

Ballista might be bought, who knows..

As for Zerging, people look down on it because it requires zero skill, and is already over rewarded in this game.

Emerge.9640:

Xsorus.2507:

dreztina.4820:

God that is awful. The progression is fastest for zergers, the abilities are fully meant for zerging activities, and because I don’t do that stuff, I’m going to permanently have some nub title above my head while the worst zergers are going to get the epic high rank titles. And to top it off, because you get more points for people who die less and points aren’t split up, I’m going to have huge zergs chasing me around for the massive point bonus.

I hate you wvw team. I really, truly hate you.

Pretty much, Its amazing how hard Development teams fail when coming up with these things..

People have been asking for DAOC2 for years now…and every time a Developer is like “We can do that” and then they just fail so hard at it..

How hard is it to just copy the bloody game already..

Want to play some DAOC with us??

Couple of my friends have already been asking me to come back and play the Valkyrie (Or my Minstrel)

chrisk.4320:

If they want people to play this game, They should of started Months ago at starting Small, at this point they can’t afford to do that.
I don’t think people grasp how badly this game would be doing if it was Subscription based.

The game is doing fine, but keep with the sensationalism (as these forums are great at).

This game isn’t doing as good as you think it is.

chrisk.4320:

Leaderboards themselves are useless unless they have info that people actually want to see.
See Camelot Herald as an example of things like….
Things like Solo kill count, IRS, Rank for your class ect ect..

Disagree, and ArenaNet needs to start small. Advanced statistics could always come later. Baby steps yo.

If they want people to play this game, They should of started Months ago at starting Small, at this point they can’t afford to do that.

I don’t think people grasp how badly this game would be doing if it was Subscription based.

Leaderboards themselves are useless unless they have info that people actually want to see.

See Camelot Herald as an example of things like….

Things like Solo kill count, IRS, Rank for your class ect ect..

dreztina.4820:

God that is awful. The progression is fastest for zergers, the abilities are fully meant for zerging activities, and because I don’t do that stuff, I’m going to permanently have some nub title above my head while the worst zergers are going to get the epic high rank titles. And to top it off, because you get more points for people who die less and points aren’t split up, I’m going to have huge zergs chasing me around for the massive point bonus.

I hate you wvw team. I really, truly hate you.

Pretty much, Its amazing how hard Development teams fail when coming up with these things..

People have been asking for DAOC2 for years now…and every time a Developer is like “We can do that” and then they just fail so hard at it..

How hard is it to just copy the bloody game already..

Its going to be a failure… as it provides no real progression.

Having to take a massive DPS loss because of terrible PVE mechanics and pets is rather depressing…

Vv W.7821:

There’s a fine line between giving players an advantage over each other based on how long they’ve played, and making it so players new to WvW get destroyed before they can make a difference. Give it some time.

There is a fine line, Balancing it is the key…

The difference between Rank 1 and Rank 10 in DAOC was massive…

The difference between a Rank 5 and a Rank 10 wasn’t something that couldn’t be overcome (and past that it got even easier)

It took very little time to go from Rank 1 to Rank 5…compared to Rank 5 to Rank 10.

Was the Rank 1 person at a disadvantage in PvP?
Yes, But it should always be that way…Giving everyone a trophy for logging in makes for dull gameplay..

Tuluum.9638:

Xsorus.2507:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVcBe7xIJG8

Quality will improve in a bit, but yea…

That was with no Boon Duration by the way.

Im just going to take a stab in the dark and guess that is not WAI. Unless I am missing something.

I went into the game to test it as well, and sure enough, you can just keep spawning the foraged weapons even when the skill is on CD. If rangers ever get much attention from Anet, I have no doubt they will fix things like that before properly balancing the class!

The f2’s will display the cooldown when swapping, but it resets like always..

You can actually be a real kitten in PvP with this, since out of combat swapping is 1 second cooldown..and since having your pet attack someone actually doesn’t put you in combat, I can send my pet at you over and over again and swap them out all day long before you can kill it.

Boomstin.3460:

Indiana Jones was smart enough to not bring a pet with him.

You sure about that

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KrisHQ.4719:

Xsorus.2507:

Rofl, those abilities are a joke

Hmm. Could we have an explanation?
It’s difficult to give people passive abilites while not giving them an advantage to other people. I think these abilities look fine, i’ll still be able to 1v2 people even if they have grinded the karma-(and now wXP)express to get higher ranks.

Its not SPvP, If you start thinking that passive abilities you gain from rank in World vs World shouldn’t give you an advantage, You’re not really getting the concept.

Rank should give an advantage, and it should help in fights against players…DAOC did it this way, and if you’re going to copy a game, at least copy the good parts about it…

The whole kittenfooting around that Developers take now a days in these game mechanics is getting annoying very fast.

Quality will improve in a bit, but yea…

That was with no Boon Duration by the way.

You can get a Condition Damage Magic Find set..

Then use Axe/Torch or Sword/Torch.

Neb.4170:

Don’t you find bringing two Devourers to a boss fight severely hampering as far as DPS goes? I mean, sure, you don’t have to look after them, but they are also not doing very much…

Ranged pet damage is pretty bad, unfortunately.

Pretty much this..