Natures Ninja and Pain Inverter – Ranger PvP movies
http://www.twitch.tv/xsorovos
in all reality i glimpsed your vids a bit ,liked them you made some mean combos
do you have any Spvp footage? I would love to see spvp if you could show some
and add hints and tricks you feel a Ranger should know in pvp
, because when i tried to do spvp on my ranger i dont know the hell im doing opposed other classes
Any My Suggestions:
Tips in dealing with other classes
SpvpCheers,
Trond
Don’t really have any SPvP movies, they’d only be of the hot join ones if i did as well, so they wouldn’t be very good i imagine.
My Sig has Volume 1 and 2, and 3 is on youtube right now if you go through the info link on those video’s.
I don’t want to do another video that’s basically the same thing as the other 3.
I thought about just doing a video of me doing 1v1’s and losing (i’ve only been able to collect 1 video of that so far).
So I was thinking about trying new builds out, Maybe a Spirit Build 1v1 or something
Anyone have any experience with both of these elite skills. Skill descriptions say the 7 series is an attack golem while the D series is a defense golem. Is one better than the other? Is the D series more powerful overall due to it being a 30pt racial vs a 10pt class skill.
I watched videos and it’s tough to distinguish a difference.
They’re alright, but for Rangers only Pain Inverter is truly better then actual Class skills (though the Radiation Field one is good in groups in dungeons)
Now if you were an Engineer, Pain Inverter/and the Daze are the best ones (The Daze gives an AOE Pain Inverter in your tool belt)
Gah, now I got to figure out how to fit it in my build.
Remove culling, it’s better to be lagging and see the enemy then being slight less lagged and not being able to see enemies.
heh, and people wonder why I play Sword/Dagger and Axe/Torch
Not sure, but it seems they broke the animations for our birds with this patch. When it lands, it now gets a second pair of wings and looks stupid.
EDIT: Apparently all the animations are messed up for the birds now. Even in flight it has a second pair of wings.
The White Owl isn’t doing it, but the Raven is, I’m slightly annoyed by this grin
If i payed a monthly fee, I might be annoyed, but since I don’t.. i’m not..
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-FV-7-0-wEVt-p2ZDV-0;9-0K;3T9T;457A2;029BK;07W;1X7X7X7X72Vy
0/0/30/10/30
The idea is high condition damage while maintaining a good amount of regeneration and a high amount of vigor up time.
Any input is appreciated.
Thanks
Replace Warhorn with Torch, Throw Torch is a lot of damage… You might wanna consider the axe for Sword as well, Evade is nice, but Axe isn’t to bad for the weakness.
If you’re using Healing Power gear, replace Protect me with Signet of the Wild.
Does look like a powerful build, you hardly get scratched. I noticed you were hitting the same classes over and over, a lot of glass cannons in there, and by the looks of the players they either were crap to average, or didn’t know how to deal with your build. Hell, nobody dodged your first fireball, and nobody did any CD removal. The number of times I saw 1k confusion damages pop up that nobody reacted to was ridiculous. That’s probably the strongest thing you have going for you in that vid, knowledge :p
Your approach is all good, the video made me sad however :p
That’s pretty much what i run across while solo.
Usually a lot of glass cannon thieves.
55 ranger?
Invol + confusion is an evil combo for anyone stupid enough to not only attack with confusion but to try attacking someone who cant even take damage.
Though I have to admit even without that this build looks like a lot of fun. Great condition build with all that poison, bleeding, cripple, fire, and it goes without saying confusion. How effective is this build in long drawn out fights or back to back fights? I see in your video a lot of your kills are with you having less than 10 stack on your weapon which I take as you die a lot as well?
I died i think maybe 3 times that morning?
It takes me a while to build the stacks, because that morning i was going between the different maps trying to find 1v1 fights…a lot of zerging going on
Can you explain what’s going on in these attacks?
Dodging, me popping Pain Inverter, more dodging, throwing all my conditions, Dodging some more, Heal up, get tired of trying to stomp..just start beating people to death
pretty much the jest of my video’s ;o)
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Sorry about that.:(
man I so love your vids… Owning 1v1 and 1v2 with the kitteniest class on the field. Being unable to watch these makes me sad
You’re in Germany right?
I’ve still not figured out why it’s just Germany that can’t see it.
Footage taken from this morning
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I didn’t know ranged abilities didn’t work at close range. Someone go tell staff elementalists they’re hacking.
Bunkers are also about point control, I didn’t know that punishing people for being in a particular area (which traps do) was against the model of bunkering.
This all boils down to what I said previously. They are different bunker builds and they work differently, just because it isn’t the one that you use and play doesn’t make them less effective.
It’s mainly because to use traps you have to go up Skirmishing line, and you have to waste utility slots, which you need for SOTW and Lightning reflexes, you could probably fit one trap in at most….
Now a trap build might not be a bunker build completely, but it’s still bloody good for dropping on points during a fight…But I wouldn’t call it a bunker build….
too the guy who said condition thiefs wouldnt have an advantage vs ranger.. because cloak and dagger can be easily dodged… pets find it very hard to dodge it
so yeah a pretty safe infinite source of cloak and dagger. not to mention rangers condition removal is poor at best.
the real offensive classes for ranger to 1vs1 are confusion stacker, e.g condition engi’s and mesmers, condition thiefs have the advantage simply due to the rangers lack of reliable options against a kiting invisible person.. (no need to go into trap distance or stay conally infront when you can get free stealths from the pets.
Ehh, Rangers can remove all conditions every 10 seconds..
Just a hint… wont post a build because we want to win more paid tornis before other people will start to copy it (like we did ;-) was not our invention…)
Its at the momemt one od the strongest 1vs1 builds And one of the best team Fight builds out there… just a hint for teamfights… what is a healing char in competitove gw2 team ? …. yes its the quikness rez . who heals your downed teammate by 50% on 1sec…
Rangers from 0 to hero… in 1 day ;-)
Quickness every 15 seconds is nice true
yeap, Empathic Bond is absolutely amazing on all levels
My mesmer has no problem with these "bunker " ranger builds. I use alot of boon removal. Once they lose regen and protection, they’ze be squishy to me. Same applies to most bunker Ele and Guardians.
Bout the only boons we get are the Regen (which is nice, but won’t stop the build) and protection on dodge (which lasts 2 seconds, so yea)
excellent vid’s, very well played tbh.
Great to see solo players, especially when taking on more than 1 enemy and winning.who says rangers are kittened!?
Would love to know spec & item build.
Its listed under the youtube videos
It’s Apoth Gear
How in the world are people putting Ranger as a tough class to play? All I see is auto attack and ability spam all day long. Sure they have a difficult time succeeding given their under powered state, but that doesn’t necessitate it having a ‘high skill’ cap.
Engineer, Elementalist, and Necromancer require more sheer technical skills but each class can have its specific difficulties given a situation or build faced.
It’s because of how Shortbow and Longbow are Designed, They’re very simple to use.. and frankly require little thought.
Sword/Dagger with Axe/Torch though, Requires you to manage abilities and cooldowns, and constantly weapon swap.
The class is further increased in difficulty because you living relies completely on Dodging..Constantly….like all the time…While swapping your pet and managing your abilities list.
So it becomes a fairly difficult class to play correctly.
I however believe Elementalist probably requires a bit more skill, As you have more abilities you have to manage, granted I’ve not played one a whole lot….It might be extremely easy to learn once you develop the correct rotation.
The Easier classes to play have “combat” resets, aka if you kittenup, you can escape the fight..This includes the Mesmer/Thief.
Asura Melee Ranger World vs World Video (1vsX)
Volume 1
Volume 2
Hmm, Don’t use Shortbow, It’s not the greatest weapon.
our Melee/mid range weapons still remain our best setup in my opinion.
Thanks for all the reply’s and info. I tried my hand in WvW, I only have longbow and short bow, I don’t even own any other type of weapon because those are the only weapons I like to use. I’m a glass canon build and I did not have a good time in 1v1 in WvW. I just felt like I was picking away slowly while I was getting walloped for high damage. Then the only fight that I was starting to win 1v1 was a mez who took off doing while breaking the sound barrier! I found a zerg group and stormed a fort or a keep (1st time playing WvW so learning the map and idea behind it), and we took control of it which was nice
I’m just not sure if I was able to contribute as much as the other players there where because of my build…which is why I was looking on YouTube to see what I could do better.
Thanks again.
How to make Bow work is the question….
try this
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQJAVTjIV91VWOWsWCilCAFoWhJxUcIG9Uk+1XymeC;TMAA2WfM+A
Idea behind this build is simple, You want to use bows, You don’t want to get hit, and you want to keep your Opponent Locked down as much as possible.
For this setup, I’d probably use Knights Armor, or something similar to it, Basically Power/Precision/Defensive Stat (toughness or vit)
Put Sigil of Energy on both your bows, As it’ll give you 50% endurance each time you weapon swap, and you’re kind of short on Vigor with this build (only Lightning Reflex)
Anyway, how do you lock down the target is the question..and the answer is, Cripple…a whole buttload of cripple….
The way you do that is simple, Muddy Terrain, and your Spider Pets (also Shortbow)…With this setup your Spider Pets (Canyon and Forest Spider) apply cripple on their next 3 attacks and next 2 attacks, When you pet swap, these abilities are reset, So constantly being swapping your pets and letting them apply this cripple… ..With Malice Training from Marksmanship line, It increases the duration of this cripple by 50%, if your pet lands all 3 attacks for example that apply cripple, It’s 16 Seconds of Cripple… you can keep this up pretty much 100% of the time on the target (Though thieves I believe can remove it on dodge or stealth, forget which, that might only be immobilize)
A build like this might work fairly decently, you’d have to try it out and see if you like it, But if you’re wanting to use bows, I could see it working.
Shortbow is good if you want to zerg people down, or chase people..
1v1, Not the best weapon…as Condition Based it’s pretty awful (Power Based it’s good, but then Glass Cannon builds aren’t exactly amazing 1v1 for rangers) You won’t apply the bleed, The Poison is mediocre compared to Sword/Dagger Combo, The Evade Can’t Compete vs 2 Evades, the Cripples is about the Same as Dagger offhand (cept Dagger offhand applies your condition damage, not your crappy pets) but it does have the Daze, which is nice…
So it’s really up to you what you want to do..If you’re going to zerg surf, choose a Shortbow or Longbow …. you can’t really go wrong with either..
Personally when I zerg surf on my guy with Glass Cannon mode, I use Shortbow/Longbow combo…
When i solo, I run my main build…
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Why Axe/Torch as well? Because Torch Throw with Condition Build is absolutely brutal damage, and Bonfire is pretty decent as well.
Axe itself is alright, I mean it’s got the bleed and the bounces which is decent, But the main reason to use Axe is Winter’s Bite… I mean it’s a Chill+Weakness Combo, The Weakness itself is longer then the cooldown if I remember correctly with Rare Pizza. (i’d have to check that, not 100%) and Weakness can win you fights very easily in this game.
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Would be nice if they’d fix some of the pet bugs..
Ton of pets (like the lizard ones) are broken currently
You honestly don’t need to dodge roll that often with the sword. Especially in combination with a dagger. There are so many build in evades with the weapon skills that dodge rolling becomes secondary.
That being said, they could easily fix the sword auto attack chain by making dodge supersede the chain.
I agree almost with everything. I use sword and dagger and their evades are excellent. However what do you do on cooldown? Dodge is a necessary mechanic because of a few mechanics – aoe attacks mostly in my experience. I can time skills 2-4 to dodge devastating attacks from the foe I’m fighting and the foes nearby, but that’s not enough in many cases.
The second part I couldn’t agree with more. What’s so hard about making dodge override the chain? Can anyone think of another auto-attack chain that renders dodge unresponsive? If my ranger can’t voluntarily stop himself, he shouldn’t be able to be interrupted either. Rename the sword skill “rage” and make it grant stability.
I switch to Axe/Torch and start my Combo Chain again, before switching back to Sword/Dagger
According to the QQ…yes…But i just want to make a class thats ’’main’’ weapons would be bows becouse i’v always liked them. I just dont want to level ranger 80 too to realise im even less useful than my necro which i havent touched in weeks >_<
Mainly asking people who have an engineer too, becouse that’d be next in my list of chars im interested in, or are engineers just as worthless (havent put time to research that myself yet)
Ranger has a lot of broken abilities, and subpar talents, and subpar abilities…
Granted, you can do ok on them… I happen to believe our best weapons aren’t our Bows though…
If you really just want to use a bow, I recommend a thief….
Go to 5:57 in this video..
Tell me wtf was in my way to get me obstructed on my Torch Throw….I’m sure it’s the bird, but for that to be true, the bloody hit box would have to be way to big.
5. White Knights still trying to say/imply this class is good, balanced and not awful; especially in WvW
That’s because this class is good, balanced and not awful in WvW.
I agree many opponents in that video were clearly upgraded 80s or just bad tho. The thing is, people who needs to whine will find a way or another to beat down people who plays and enjoys ranger.
Agreed. And it doesn’t change the fact that he killed multiple opponents at the same time, even if they were up-leveled.
I have the rule of, If i’m going to include a video in one of my Movies, it has to have 1 level 80 in the fight….Otherwise it gets thrown in the recycle bin.
My first video included me stomping on 2 people at the start of one of the fights, think it was a Guardian and a Thief, I was going to throw that away till the Ranger/Guardian showed up and the Ranger was level 80 (Not that he was any good, I mean he killed himself with QZ+Crossfire off my Confusion) ..But it made it into my video for entirely that reason.
As for ranger being terrible, or balanced..Ranger class clearly has a ton of problems..With a ton of useless abilities.
It is honestly the worst class in the game at this point, and I have no doubt that I would absolutely wreck people probably easier with other classes…
However reason I ended up doing my movie was to show that you weren’t limited to just using bows… ..That Melee Ranger is viable…..When i get around to it, i’m going to try and do a video of me using Muddy Terrain over Pain Inverter for a video instead.. to show it’s even possible to play without the ability.
lets be honest here, the maps in this game for these matches are just awful..Boring and bland..
As much crap as SWTOR gets, Huttball is still probably the best PvP Map i’ve played in an MMO, followed by a couple of the Warhammer Online ones….(TSW El dorado map was also really well designed, just never popped)
Till they make the SPvP maps interesting and add a reason to actually do SPvP (Also another thing that keeps this game down..Warhammer Online,TSW,SWTOR all gave you something for doing it..hell even WoW did.. same with Rift… There really isn’t any reason for me to ever bother with SPvP in this game) no one will actually waste time with the game.
Elder Scrolls Online has already saw the writing on the wall, and are just going to flat out not have instance pvp in their game.
I don’t get what people are complaining about here. I fail to see what the problem is. Is it that the people he went against weren’t good enough to kill him? Well no kitten, that’s why it’s recorded. It shows Sol killing people. It’s a PvP video. What freaking MMORPG did you people play where everyone is equally skilled at everything. Sol obviously owned most of the people in the video and I see no reason on why you should complain about it.
The problem is:
1. More skill in a video = it’s generally better
2. The people he versed were all bad. IE not very skilled NOT HIM.
3. Sol’s OP implied he found this great effective way to play ranger
4. OP and several others are insulting when people say the people he versed were just plain bad.
5. White Knights still trying to say/imply this class is good, balanced and not awful; especially in WvW
Who’s implying number 5?
To be honest, there was little negative feedback in this thread. What people are trying to tell you Sol is that the players you versed were not very skilled. That does not reflect badly towards you, but in fact the players you versed in WvW. Your control over your Ranger was better than average to most, but those guys you versed were just plain bad.
30 seconds in the video watching that guardian getting faceplanted by your kiting tricks just made me question if that guardian knew what he was doing. Onwards I just see a couple of small skrim pvps where 2 people can’t even CC you properly, again makes me question what the hell they’re doing. So I just stopped there and had enough.
The people in this thread that gave feedback about the players you versed are doing you a favour of whats to expect from the worst of these players in comparison to the more competent ones out there. And trust me, there’s a BIG difference when you verse again’st a very skilled player. Those people you versed in this video, aren’t even close to the same level of competition to what most experienced PvP’ers are like in WvW.
That can be said about the majority of people in this game when it comes to PvP….I only see a few that are really good players…Some classes are more forgiving to bad players as well..Thieves for example….I’ll say honestly, 90% of them i fight, are just plain awful, yet i see them wrecking other bads..
Something is seriously wrong with a class forum when posting a video results in posters whining that you killed other people, and that if only you “played” another class you would of done so much better.
Seriously… I realize the ranger has “problems”…But this Butthurt attitude a lot of you guys take is just silly at best.
Almost all the feed back was uttly stupid. Its like there trolling me. Only people giving me feed back that isn’t being a twat, are people being positive.
I’ll listen when they start posting footage of there PvP, until then there words are meaning less, far as I know they unskilled forum warriors.
It’ll happen, I had a few trolls in my threads, not nearly as bad as yours.. but still trolls never the less.
Most of the comments I got were useful information, and frankly good questions, On why I did something, or why i chose to use such and such.
@Xsorus
Yea….. No.
It all comes down to player’s skill and how well he or she controls that class. I’m not being negative nor am I saying Sol is a bad Ranger.
This is the fact. It is the truth in all mmorpg when it comes to PvP.
WvW is not the place to determine ones best skill and ability in PvP simply because of one important factor. The player’s are not competing in the same skill level. It all ranges from bad to average to highly skilled players.
There is nothing silly about this statement. You just failed to see the simple logic.
You’ll never find someone in PvP that competes equally with you in skill level.
General Rule for PvP in MMO’s depending on how gear is factored is
Class – Skill – Gear (If Both are equal in gear) – Luck
If say, Class,Gear are the same, Skill will become a factor, and then luck.. It’s never Equal…
That’s a pipe dream.. Where you become better in PvP is overcoming disadvantages in 3 of those areas (all but luck) then if you fight more then 1 person at a time.. that’s when you truly test yourself.
WvW will never prove any worth of skill when it comes to PvP. Why? Player’s will range in terms of skill from terrible to mediocre to perfectly skilled.
To truly analyse ones skills and abilities when in control of a specific class verses another specific class, a Dueling system must be made that is determined in player’s skill level. That is if both players are in the same skill level, then the duel would be severely balanced, which would result in a great fight to watch.
WvW does not depict this idea. It is a zerg fest, meaning the more numbers you have, the better the chances to win. There is no skill involved in that situation.
Silliness at best.
A. No matter how even you think combat should be with a “dueling” system it’d still be governed by other things. Player Classes for example, Or my personal favorite..Sheer bloody luck.. "Oh look, I crit at the most opportune time.. and thus won the fight.. Not based off skill mind, But bloody luck of the dice. You will always have factors that come into play in any type of PvP game…
B. WvW as a zergfest is a cop out for bads who want an excuse for losing….. You want to test yourself in PvP, How about give yourself a chance to be Ajed while you’re in an intense fight with someone else.. .. We didn’t have a dueling system in DAOC for 8v8, and some of the best fights ever in that game was being Overwhelmed and coming out on top. I’ll happily take that over a “dueling” system any day of the week.
It’s a good vid (not a fan of the song though), although i would like to see how well you do without pain invert.
You can see from any of the fights in the video of people who didn’t die from Pain Inverter.
if you are using a pet like devourer or spider, one with a ranged attack and lets say you are meleeing.
well you know that annoying thing where monsters go invulnerable when u shoot them and they cant reach you. well now the monster is invulnerable because of your pet, despite you meleeing it.
and to make it worse. this is occuring UNDERWATER. where the enemy can always reach your pet.
so why is it doing this?i getting tired of vsing an underwater boss enemy and then my ranged pet will make them invulnerable. they heal and i sitting there swinging my spear cursing myself for HAVING a pet.
seriously can i PLEASE have an option to hide this pet till i WANT it to come out. not when i get in combat.
I’m pretty sure it’s just the water that does this, and it has nothing to do with Melee or Range
My Cat and Drake pets will cause for example, veteran Giant Jelly fish to go invulnerable…
It’s just underwater that does this, On land it doesn’t happen.
More importantly; is it still cool to like NIN? Will Reznor ever stop trying to be alternative, and be alternative?
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How dare you
Decided to change some skills around for round 3 since I don’t like using Moa Morph. But if you’re hanging around our keep area for the next match up I’d be more than happy for a rematch 1:1.
But again, insignia(s) for weapon/armour/accessory setup as well as runes would be much appreciated since this gives a better overview of your stats.
Axe/Torch, Sword/Dagger
Apothecary Gear (Healing Power/Toughness/Condition Damage)
Undead runes
Sigil of Geomancy/Sigil of Corruption.
Where i’ll be depends on the action, if it’s very zergy, I probably won’t go near it….That area was real nice this morning cause very little zerg fighting going on.
Was this a one vs one? cause I don’t recall dying 1v1 against anyone this morning (or yesterday that matter)
SoR human mesmer wearing the CM armour with Greatsword and sword/focus. There was a scaled 80 asura rifle warrior that’d rushed you after I told him to wait, so I went into assist him. You seemed pretty convinced to destroy me first though so I ended up shattering my clones for a distortion and Moa’d you. You didn’t even try to dodge it.
If it helps, our earlier match was up at Valley, when you were just strolling around inside the ruins. I had time warp up then which doesn’t respond well to retaliation + confusion.
Yea, that warrior Killshotted me while I was chasing you, I should of killed him first :o(
Yea I was pretty screwed at that point.. the MOA didn’t help either.
If you are the Blackgate ranger that was hanging around the SE area of Stonemist for a bit, then I have to say that fighting you was a pleasure and one of the 2 best fights I had in EB that day. I’ve never fought a ranger that went melee and stayed melee so congrats for trying something different =).
It certainly made it so much more satisfying when I returned, saw you patrolling the same area in front of the castle and defeated you. I waited around in case you came back, but you didn’t return for a rematch.
Just curious if you could list the insignia(s) you’re using on your armour/weapons/accessories. Thanks for the fun and hope to face you again.
Was this a one vs one? cause I don’t recall dying 1v1 against anyone this morning (or yesterday that matter)
Unless you’re the necro at the end, This is all the 1v1 videos I have from this morning..I had a second fight with that necro, and I have it recorded, but i ended up winning that fight..Just didn’t include it because it was basically the same as the first time.
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4. Are you suggesting I make a video of me killing Dolyaks/quaggrans/supply camps (Because I can do that…but it’d be awfully boring) Taking out Dolyaks isn’t actually that hard… I can solo Supply camps fairly easy as well.
That is what I am here for. I will be waiting.
I’ll try and accommodate ya next video ;o)
Nice work. You will be kicked out of the ranger club if you post positive things about your class though, it will destroy their image.
What are you talking about? This video is PROOF that Ranger is so bad.
- He fights only near home fort, which gives him entire list of stat buffs.
- It’s mostly 1 on 1 fights. No one says Ranger can’t beat another class 1 on 1. Especially not in WvW where you can outgear others. WvW is not about 1 on 1. Not even roaming in WvW. You can’t just pick few favorite fights that worked out well and put it on YouTube. That can make for a fun video but won’t make a profession any better.
- Ranger is bad at roaming. That’s why this video is all about fighting near the home fort. Because let’s say you run into enemy group of 3, or enemy zerg. What you gonna do? Die, that’s what. You’re not a mesmer or thief with stealth, you’re not ele with super speed.
- Usefulness in WvW. Where is it? Killing few enemy players near your home fort means nothing in WvW. It’s not like these players would take Stonemist or anything. Fighting dolyaks is useful, taking camps is useful, even killing veterans or taking quaggan power nodes. Or killing enemy players who are moving to besieged tower, and thus cutting their manpower. But ranger is poor here. And that’s the problem. You can’t fight dolyaks because you have to be in the open. They just don’t pass near the home fort wall like in this video. You can’t cut enemy man supply because what if you run into 3 enemies and not 1? How you gonna escape?
1. I fought near that are cause that’s where the action was at the time.. It’s a fairly high traffic area either way (I have a second video up as well without the “buffs”)
2. I try not to include video’s where there isn’t 1 level 80 present… I’ve gotten a slew of video’s where I murder some poor low level person only to delete it because it’s fairly useless to me. I also got a slew of video’s where I absolutely get wrecked horribly by huge zergs….
3. It’s mainly because that’s a high traffic area, But yes.. If you run into 3+ people, you’re pretty much screwed on a ranger…
4. Are you suggesting I make a video of me killing Dolyaks/quaggrans/supply camps (Because I can do that…but it’d be awfully boring) Taking out Dolyaks isn’t actually that hard… I can solo Supply camps fairly easy as well.
See!! Warriors are OP!! that’d why you couldn’t kill him AND the guardian in a 2v1 lol
Another great video though!! It makes me ask myself why i stopped using a raven, which was my pet of choice in Beta… Then again, so was drake and pig, but drakes don’t work…
I could of probably won that fight if I kept moving..He caught me though with that spin attack just barely.
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