Guild Wars 2

wish.1027:

>Dont say X is better than Y unless you have and understand the math that proves it

fixed*

Seem so…

RedSpectrum.1975:

>If we see any thread with the words “stealth” or “thiefs”, or the ever so lovely acronym “OP” in the title, we will automatically go into it with an unopened and ready-to-criticize mind

1k+ Hrs btw so no one better call me out >: D

I think your opinion is stupid.

1k hours on MY thief

I speak the truth though. I leveled my thief in under 2 weeks by doing everything. o.o

Serious troll is serious.

Kill everything. Gather everything. Craft everything. Do all events. Work on map completion.

… with our 1H Swords? Here are my skill ideas for Sword/Nothing.

3) Flash (3 Initiative)
Dash through your enemies at high speed while slashing them.

Damage: 346
Evade: 1/4s
Range: 900

4) Blade Dance (3 initiative x4)
Shadow step, slash, repeat.

NOTE: This is the 1-combo except:
Shadow Step Range: 200
Combo finisher is a powerful circular slash that does slightly more damage than Crippling Strike. Dirt also gets kicked up for added effect.

5) Drop Kick (5 initiative)
Gracefully slash in a circle and then kick your opponent away.

Sword Damage: 708
Kick: 149
Knockback: 300
Knockdown: 1s

Be sure to check out and comment on my rifle idea: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/EDIT-Rifles-4-thieves-pls/first

Vewen.8016:

This is confirmed as a bug and will be fixed sometime in the near future.

fixed*

I don’t care about precs OR legendaries.

Demonts.4593:

At this point they need to balance so many things we really can’t worry about 1 class. if all the other OP kitten gets nerfed down to a certain level then s/d needs to be brought to that level as well so its all balanced. However at the moment s/d is not OP compared to other stuff. Also, signet of agility is probably what they should nerf if they do nerf it.

Let’s just remove condition cleansing from thieves. kitten’em…

It is speculation but the rate difference is just too noticeably drastic. Before this update almost every other drop was a blue. After the update I am getting more trash than ever. That’s just me though.

Its per ini spent in while in the stance.

Pull out dem credit cards folks! :D

They did. Its its to make sure people don’t get 300% too fast.

cheshirefox.7026:

Zacchary.6183:

Conan.8046:

Funny you said that…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh5zjK7ITpQ

Too bad that kitten is from last year. Otherwise, I’de care.

Too bad your brain stopped developing at age 3. Otherwise, I’d care.
enjoy your lack of effort profession

Like you have room to talk. Enjoy your infinite mindless rotations.

Rovaeden.8546:

lots of fluff

No. I am pretty sure I am right on this one. You aren’t the first person to Ad Hominem and Straw-man through every comment that disagrees. You, like the rest of them, have no real basis to your arguments. You, like the rest of them, take things out of context and twist words to support your point. You, like the rest of them, don’t care what the larger chunk of the community shows you so long as you get your mounts.

This is the 7th mount topic I have been in where the OP offers the same deal, someone argues with the same points and everyone who disagrees gets shot down “because they are wrong”. No, I think I hit the nail on the head in the first sentence. It doesn’t matter what I say though because I am not agreeing with you. I don’t use that little bit of brainpower as you so simply put so of course I have no clue what I am talking about. [/sarcasm]

Here is what you don’t understand:

You guys are a very vocal and small minority and Anet isn’t going to change the game to support your whims.

Stop asking for something you are not going to get.

This is why stealth is OP.

TooBz.3065:

No. Ascended gear is boring to get. If they bore me I will complain. Don’t care if I never have to do it again.

I hate peas, if you make me eat peas I’ll fuss (especially if it’s a big heaping plateful). Even if you say it’s unlikely I’ll have to eat them again.

Some people like peas, that’s cool with me. Enjoy. Personally, I think that taste terrible.

I hate everything. Do you see me kittening about it?

kitten legendaries. That’s what I am doing.

Rovaeden.8546:

OMG THAT WOULD BE TERRIBLE!
Gamebreaking even! Oh the horror!

Seriously, guy… is that your best argument?

Every other MMO ever has had a system to circumvent that, and thats not even the point.

Better luck next time.

“because every other MMO has it”, “Because it would look cool” and “Your argument is weak” are not valid reasons to have mounts.

A good majority of the time, the reason why MMOs have mounts is because of a lack of travel. WoW would have a severe lack of means of travel if they did not have mounts and flying mounts at that. On the contrary, Runescape doesn’t have mounts because you can teleport to every major city with a spell.

GW2 does not have a travel problem, it has a lag problem that stems from the fact that they are using an outdated engine. Until they upgrade it, you are never going to see mounts. The server and people’s processors do not need more crap to process.

I like PVT for my s/x tanking build and I use Carrion (soon to be dire) for my condition build. Carrion is good for p/d but I normally carry d/d in the second set for bleeds and Dire is better for d/d.

No.

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xmtrcv.5236:

> Prefacing a complaint of how “overpowered” Thieves are, by stating you have a level 80 Thief, means nothing. If you know their strengths, then you should be well aware of their weaknesses.

Zacchary, how would someone know that the person they are arguing with has 1k+ hours on their Thief? Don’t you dare argue with me! xD

It was around 4am when I wrote that so I wasn’t running at full capacity.

Remove players from the game.

/problemsolved

I am going to compile a short list of guildelines you should know that will save you alot of pain and grief during your stay in the thief forums.

> Be sure you know wtf you are talking about before you post.
> Be sure you know wtf you are talking about before you reply.
> The harder you cry, the harder we troll.
> Please PLEASE don’t argue with people with 1k+ hours on their thief.
> We are not here to kiss your kitten . Do not post expecting us to agree.
> L2P actually has a meaning on these forums. See the 3rd link in my siggy.
> Asking and researching does wonders.
> If your thread gets sent here, it is subject to trolling.
> Zacchary puts pics/gifs on most of his posts.

If I think up anything else, I will surely add it. Post safely kids.

EDIT: Too lazy to edit. See >s down below.

It’s her fault.

Come to CD where its dredgehaunt every hour, on the hour.

“Credit Card Champion” for those who bought their legendaries.

the ice creme part isnt :3

Zephyrus.9680:

In my experience, reviving someone after the first down is a fraction of a second slower than stomping. If you start reviving right when the thief downs a player, the time it takes to CnD and stomp is actually too slow and the stomp will fail (happened literally thousands of times when I solo roam). I don’t think most players realize this though.

Second, Every class I can think of has multiple easy AoE/untargeted stuns and/or knock backs. Except ranger(?)

Assuming 2v2 (or 2v1), run to the downed player, stun, revive.

Or, if you have 2 revivers near you’ll win the race regardless of any other action.

If its 1v1 and you’re down, not even an argument.

Also, cheesecake is the only really good cake. Otherwise pie all the way.

I thought cheesecake was technically considered a pie…?

It’s inevitable.

Yup… its a portal.

SoloRift.8521:

That is the Norn dance, not the human dance.

:( That’s racist. Humans should be able to do the Carlton too!

Gutbuster.8745:

I like this thread, since Anet mentioned they were working on a way for all profs to use all weapons, got me thinking, so I was just brainstorming with a buddy of mine over the weekend about how I’d like a thief rifle bar to look like.

To the OP, you pretty much nailed it as mine is extremely similar. I would however change your #3 skill Shadow Retreat thieves already got that skill on sword #2.

My suggestion would be something more along the lines of:
Insert good name here
Targetted AoE
Shadowstep to target area call in a thief companion on spot of origin that mimics all your moves for 5 seconds.

That decoy if you will doesn’t do any damage and has the hp of a critter.

I also would just keep the weapon to 1200 range and not include the different range mechanics of #1.

I also prefer KeyLimPi’s suggestion to the stealth skill over your Ghillie Suit, Roll into Cover – .5 second cast time, 3/4 second evade into 3 second stealth. 5 initiative

I also have to disagree with most of Jamais’s post. As far as ‘sniper’ style goes there’s no prof more suitable then the thief, I find it falls perfect in line with a thief’s ability to re-position himself on the battlefield and various tactics employed.

Shotgun is the absolute opposite of what a thief should have IMO, in fact shotgun is an engineer weapon and I believe I read somewhere that engineers was supposed to have a shotgun (blatantly obvious if you look at their rifle bar as well) before Anet had a change of heart and didn’t include it, don’t quote me on that though.

Sometimes Snipers would bring a shotgun with them just incase they get attacking in close quarters. You do have some good ideas though.

Junkpile.7439:

Zacchary.6183:

Direwind.8409:

I have a thief, doesn’t mean I like playing it though. and there are some things you cant counter.

thief insane damage + nonstop stealth regen and chain blinding being one.

Warrior has insane damage, nonstop cleanse and chain CC. Does that mean I kitten about them?

Why would you kitten? Thief can’t lose against warrior so it’s kind of pointless.

Exactly.

Keyce.8137:

Zacchary.6183:

Every veteran thief should be used to getting hit by the nerf bat by now.

Only if you forget to dodge-roll-a-new-build. :P

Good thing I keep 3 main builds and 10 variants on hand in my utility bank.

Direwind.8409:

I have a thief, doesn’t mean I like playing it though. and there are some things you cant counter.

thief insane damage + nonstop stealth regen and chain blinding being one.

Warrior has insane damage, nonstop cleanse and chain CC. Does that mean I kitten about them?

He could at least wait until the others get locked first. :I

Every veteran thief should be used to getting hit by the nerf bat by now.

Oh look. Its direwind’s “nerf stealth” post again…

I don’t have any problems with this.

Haters gonna hate.

timmyf.1490:

Also, why the hell do you call it GREEN when it is clearly LIME or perhaps FRESH AVOCADO!? THIS IS KITTEN RIDICULOUS ANET!!!!

What about Sunrise Cherry? Why not Fall Leaves? ANET IS COLORIST!!!!!!@EQ

+1 because I hate flippers.

I see what you are saying even though you did describe what snipers do on a mission. :P

It runs against the spirit of the class which is infiltration, stealth and improvisation.

Snipers normally must find vantage points in enemy territory without getting caught. In congested terrain like forests, snipers will usually add the environment to their ghillie suit which tends to be very effective camo.

No. c:

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

if you kill yourself, your enemies get to rally. this is core game play mechanics and must not change.

I would rather leave it alone then, if thats the case.

Then they might as well just get rid of downed in WvW.

The point of this is to make the downed state less of a pain to deal with. Aside from the slow death and rapid rallies, being a total benefit to the enemy while in that state is what makes people hate it so much. Again if you are just going to die anyway, then what is the point of having a downed state?

And why would anyone want to help the enemy faster by killing themselves? Nobody would use it in WvW because almost nobody would let themselves get killed without taking others down with them. Turning suicide into an expedient boon for your enemy goes beyond common sense.

TL;DR: Then why have suicide or downed state in WvW in the first place?

Scootabuser.4915:

We already have stigmas that players make from research, spreadsheets, and experiance.

I know for a fact that many of them are just WRONG.

Why not add a Total Damage meter in game? The consequences of not having one have been worse, and classes have been downright excluded from content.

I know it will never happen though, because people don’t know the difference between Total Damage and DPS :/

Yeah lets give elitists access to more information they can’t understand so that they can draw bad conclusions and wrong assumptions against the people who are probably keeping them from dying.

Updated with a few trait ideas!

Serious.6940:

If thieves…

Lose all invisibility
No speed boosts
The 2 skill on dagger requires a target
No invisible finisher.

Then I’d agree to the rifle. Range as longbow on ranger.

Shall we agree to disagree?

This thread is about pie now. You are going off topic. :I

They are ending up at my local butcher and into my alfredo.