Guild Wars 2

I will probably be one of those die-hards while everyone else does this:

Thieves are for those who can handle the challenge.

Sir Vincent III.1286:

Zacchary.6183:

Nickeloneon.8714:

Zacchary.6183:

No. All of the facerollers believe “Warrior is best” and that anything > warrior = OP. Maths never lie.

Not sure if serious… or trolling….

Serious troll is serious. :I

It’s an obvious troll because Warrior is not the best, Guardian is — they are a walking, breathing, one man army of tank, heal, and DPS — a manifestation of the Holy Trinity.

Troll was directed at facerollers. I was still being serious though. Warriors imo require the least amount of thinking to use. My first alt was a warrior and I just stopped using it after lvl 25 because the “slap keyboard to win” style of gameplay was boring. At least with the guardian you have to put some thought into it.

I even used a build calc to see into my warrior’s future.

After that, I went back to my thief to max him out because trying to get an effective tanky non-stealth s/p build was more challenging and fun than searching for a more creative warrior build. The warrior is purely straightforward damage and buffing. The skills are mind-numbingly simple.

If you don’t know what I mean, roll a thief and then roll a warrior. You will see the difference.

Nickeloneon.8714:

Zacchary.6183:

No. All of the facerollers believe “Warrior is best” and that anything > warrior = OP. Maths never lie.

Not sure if serious… or trolling….

Serious troll is serious. :I

This doesn’t change the fact that I am afraid of 50% of the things that crawl upon that over-glorified sandbar.

I theenk da speling iz perfikt ahn Gild Worz 2.

But if everyone’s messages looked like that, then I would support this idea.

Chewablesleeptablet.3185:

Im Mudbone.1437:

Mirta.5029:

Im Mudbone.1437:

I do have to say this about farming, I love to farm, I farm for my guilds need as well as my own(it’s how I make my IGM). I never stay in one spot very long and I do stalk the dragons and other events daily, but, it just seems I must play my game the way ANET decides I must play it. Why?

because
A) it’s their game
B) like other games they did state that they’re against farming. Both Tera and Guild Wars 2 discourage farming.
Older MMOs allow it and free to play MMO force you to do it. By now there should be an MMO for everyone on the market and I’m sure that you should be able to find one that allows you to farm.

Name 1 thing that can be made in the game that does not REQUIRE crafting materials(which must be farmed)

salvage kit.

You still need to kill kittenloads of enemies to get junk gear to salvage.

Essence Snow.3194:

Keep the Peace on Southsun Cove
Inspector Ellen Kiel of the Lionguard has been tasked with restoring order to the island, but she can’t do it alone. In this all-new content, you’ll partner with Kiel to protect the settlements on Southsun Cove and uncover the source of the mysterious animal attacks!

This does not make me want to go back to Southsun.

They want you to buy the keys.

wookie.8934:

Zacchary.6183:

I just don’t want my class to be the sole owner of the Poopstain of the Month Trophy anymore. :c

I believe warriors still hold that title.

No. All of the facerollers believe “Warrior is best” and that anything > warrior = OP. Maths never lie.

I just don’t want my class to be the sole owner of the Poopstain of the Month Trophy anymore. :c

How about make more lvl 80 areas so all the maxed people aren’t corralled into Cursed Shore?

While they are at it they can change the directional buttons into Camera Movement buttons so I am not straining my mouse trying to keep my eyes on the target.

I am going to agree with the other replies. Probably would be a good idea to add Skinning Knife for wild game and such.

He is saying that Oakhearts become Log Nodes on death. It would definitely give killing more of a purpose.

Your idea is OP. I call for nerf.

Travlane.5948:

Dual.8953:

Teamkiller.4315:

Dual.8953:

Teamkiller.4315:

DanH.5879:

PVE
thief:
1.traps suck big time
2.venoms have to small range for sharing
3.burst is meh
4.dps is far behind a warrior
5.mobility is NOT so very good without 15 in acrobatics
6.let’s say that the lowest hp/med armor combo compensates with stealth to stay alive, but the new “dont drop agro on stealth mechanic make things difficult”
7.almost NO boons, no team support except stealth res
8.blindness ineffective at bosses, also 1/2 duration of vulnerability&weakness
9.shared initiative system on all weapons

warrior:
1.banners 600 range: 2 super boons up for everyone in party !
2.invulnerability
3.top dps
4.highest hp/heavy armor
5.good condition remover (remove 1 condition on shout+ Shake It Off!=2 on 1 skill, Mending-remove 2 conditions then heal etc.)-contrary to “low condition removal” stated by a-net
6.good bursts
7.boons like 3 might stacks and fury for everyone in party
8.mobility via rush and other skills
9.switching weapon sets you get fresh skills

This post is so insanely slanted it’s not even funny. I know you are being serious, but I can’t take you seriously.

Slanted or not, there’s definitely a reason thieves get turned down and warriors get demanded in PvE situations.

That’s because they’re the best PvE class there is?

Not just that. Thieves are turned down in favour of just about every other class but ranger. We are seen as having neither the dsp or survivability, and our support is considered niche at best.

here here! i 2nd. :P

3rd.

OP is wrong. People are complaining about stealth and the “lack-of-counter”.

Then play a thief so you can understand the general workings of stealth. After you know how thieves use stealth, adjust your gameplay and use situational awareness.

You can still hit a thief in stealth if you know what path they are going to take.

The sarcasm!! It burns!!!!

^ The pun is strong in that one.

Mirta.5029:

Zacchary.6183:

Firegoth.6427:

Dante.1508:

Firegoth.6427:

taomang.2183:

There is absolutely nothing legendary about Legendaries. By now a lot of people have them, and they aren’t even special or good looking.

You can say many things about legendaries, but how is:
*Shooting oversized unicorns
*Shooting confettis with irritating sounds
*Opening a window to the sky / abyss
*Covering yourself in chromatic skin
*Zapping everything around you
*Creating footsteps of all the above

Not special enough for you?

None of that is special in any way, it all pretty stupid actually.

Such a shame, I should start posting screens of all the times people told me how erotic my Sunrise is or “wth is that pistol? never seen anything like it!”
When was the last time you’ve read in party chat “oh wow look at that fiery sword”?

Crappy skins are crappy, it’s all about the effects! grrrrr

Just because every swing of the sword causes reality to crack open doesn’t mean that it puts my enemies that much closer to oblivion. I stopped trying to acquire Legendaries when did the math. I am not going to spend kittenloads of my time just to get something that is “pretty as kitten”.

this is not a game that would make you overpowered, just because you got something hard to get. I’m glad to work for something that crack reality open. You can go back to an older MMO that would allow you to one shot newbs.

I don’t care about one-shotting newbs. I care about practicality of content. If I have to waste a chunk of my life just to obtain something that is slightly more effective than an Exo with the same kind of stat boosts, then there is no point in even looking at it.

It takes a legendary amount of nolifing to get a legendary, a very pretty weapon with very pretty effects that shows my very pretty nolifing kitten. Exactly how appealing does that sound?

You will NEVER take away the Thief’s Poopstain of the Month trophy! It’s all we have left!

The gold can easily be replaced. Most of it has been. I think its just a failing system. This game has alot of improvement to be had so I wouldn’t be surprised if I was right about it.

My friend had 40g on his character. He had no use for it and sent 35g to another friend who was terribad at gold management. The message with the gold arrived but the gold was gone.

Anti-goldfarming mechanic kicked in and my friend lost 35g. :|

The same thing probably happened with OP. System detects a good amount of gold just instantly appear on his account where he immediately buys gear for his toon. System calls hax and he is left out in the cold.

Firegoth.6427:

Dante.1508:

Firegoth.6427:

taomang.2183:

There is absolutely nothing legendary about Legendaries. By now a lot of people have them, and they aren’t even special or good looking.

You can say many things about legendaries, but how is:
*Shooting oversized unicorns
*Shooting confettis with irritating sounds
*Opening a window to the sky / abyss
*Covering yourself in chromatic skin
*Zapping everything around you
*Creating footsteps of all the above

Not special enough for you?

None of that is special in any way, it all pretty stupid actually.

Such a shame, I should start posting screens of all the times people told me how erotic my Sunrise is or “wth is that pistol? never seen anything like it!”
When was the last time you’ve read in party chat “oh wow look at that fiery sword”?

Crappy skins are crappy, it’s all about the effects! grrrrr

Just because every swing of the sword causes reality to crack open doesn’t mean that it puts my enemies that much closer to oblivion. I stopped trying to acquire Legendaries when did the math. I am not going to spend kittenloads of my time just to get something that is “pretty as kitten”.

So it is possible to have 2 ascended gear equipped? Yay!

Because people want to faceroll onto the 1st page of the leaderboards.

Lets give everyone perma-stealth.

(cont.)

tl;dr Amg! Stahp swinging the MNB at everything! You are going to break the game!

This -> http://www.searchenginepeople.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/nerf-bat-video-game-3d-render.jpg

This is not the answer to everything. As powerful of a tool that it is, it can cause problems if not properly applied. Yes, it doesn’t hurt at first but repetitive use could cause irritation. Using it for every problem will only cause more problems. The ultimate goal you’ve set for yourselves will start becoming more distant and unreachable the more you use it.

I implore you… back up and see what you are doing before you take another swing! There is a kittenload of QQ on here but a good portion of that stems from bad and lazy players. Don’t listen to that and start bonking everything until something gets fixed!

Instead… read and consider some of my alternatives:

Mujen.5287:

Why are you writing in an out with capital letters?

For emphasis.

Adaneshade.2409:

Dear Devs,

Nerf Paper, Scissors is fine though.

Sincerely,
Rock

Even though I didn’t intend for this thread to sound that way, this was still hilarious. +1

Retrospek.4583:

Funny thing is that for this exact reason, is why I haven’t bought the mining pick. I love the pick, the animation on it is awesome, love the idea of having an endless pick…what I don’t like, is the fact that those of us who play multiple characters get “punished” for doing so. It’s not worth buying a pick for every character I have, but being soulbound, I won’t buy it either, sorry. I’m too much of an alt-a-holic to have it soulbound.

You don’t need to buy more picks when everything you mine can go into collections.

If this is about being able to manipulate the camera without using the mouse, I am all for it.

Frekittenofuman.5084:

Why are you bashing necro you idiot? I hate people like you wanting to be able to easily kill every class imaginable. Now that you can easily strip boon with your larcenous strike, you whine for more? /facepalm

You didn’t even care to understand my post. No matter, though. I explained it at face value before the actual post.

Take of some of the nerfs and stop kittening that the highest burst class is OP for being the highest burst class…. THEN we’ll talk.

If I was OP, I woulda gotten the kitten away from the clone and wailed at my target with some ranged weaponry.

Mattidore.3482:

Flissy.4093:

If you let a Mesmer keep up phantasms its your own fault. They make up for a Mesmers lacklustre damage.

Why don’t we remove a Necros condition when they get downed while we’re at it? Let’s destroy all the Engineers turrets & eliminate the Ranger’s pet too.

I see you forgot to mention warrior and guardian? What about their lackluster damage?

No class will ever beat Thief for Poopstain of the Month. My class doesn’t have anything else besides that T~T.

I don’t personally like the Karma Vendors. There is no difference between the gear they sell other than the Superior runes placed on them.

I hate how I am the only one wanting to do the temples and the only one doing the events to get to them. But “OMFG WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE” if the path to Arah isn’t open.

This is some random idea I came up with last night when I first saw this post.

Duelist

• Uses Swords, Greatswords, Daggers, and Pistols (offhand only)

• Swords and Daggers have different 1-5 abilities depending on which hand they are in or if they are wielded in both. It will make it have more skill choice with less weapons. Righties focus on debilitation. Lefties focus on takedowns. Dualies focus on raw DPS. Daggers can used as ranged weapons.

• Greatswords can be wielded in main hand only but it will be slow and your skills will be defensive with a few counters. A Greatsword in both hands focuses on AoE.

• The Duelist’s combat mechanic relies on Stances which can trigger devastating attacks if triggered or self-buffing shouts if ignored. This is meant to give the enemy the choice of taking the hit or letting the Duelist buff himself. Some Stances force a change of target for the enemy and locks targeting in hopes to shift aggro.

• This class has weak attack power but gets most of it’s power from Stances and the control they provide.

• Healing is done by more passive Stances.

Attack Power: Very Low
Stance Attack Power: High
Armor: Medium

Burnfall.9573:

Talking about Chronomancer being srapped, check this out., you’ll be Amazed

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/User:Amantis/Chronomancer

Many would’ve preferred that class than the Stealth thief which is tremendously breaking class balance in this game.

Obviously,

Amantis/Chronomancer “shadow” class would’ve been a Threat to the Thief “stealth” class if they were to implement it to gw2.

Necros and everything else are threats to the Thief right now.

Using the nerf bat on everything will not fix every problem. Anet needs to learn this.

TainoFuerte.8136:

Zacchary.6183:

Let’s remove stealth too! I mean its also OP right?
CRYFEST! READ ME NOW!

That thread is more about invisibility as a mechanic than a Thief thread.

Thieves that rely on invisibility as a crutch for their poor play feel addressed personally by the posters, of course.

Yeah, well if you expect us to play without stealth then you are pretty much telling us to up our game while making it easy for everyone else.

Secondly, it doesn’t matter if its about invisibility because they are already working on nerfing what makes a thief a thief. If I were to guess, this is the order of things that will be nerfed in the future on the thief (with explainations):

1. Stealth mechanic (because they can’t see them)
2. Dodging (too many dodges)
3. Shadowstepping (too many of this too)
4. S/D and S/P builds (because OP)
5. Caltrops (we only have two that I know of but the “on dodge” one can put up to 3 stacks of bleeding and cripple (~5s) for free, ;n; too much bleeding yo)
6. Initiative Regen (when Initiative whoring becomes OP)
7. Damage (why not…)
8. Venom trait (“OMFG permavenom!” will be the excuse even though venom isn’t as deadly as bleeding)
9. Scorpion Wire distance, damage and interrupt (Even though I am mostly PvE I use this to pull people from zergs or pull more threatening mobs from their groups. I love it. It will get nerfed to no damage, 50% distance (600) and no interrupt.)
10. Vitality and Toughness (when glass builds don’t cut it anymore and Thieves resort to upping their game and using more tanky builds)
11. Damage (because 3-4k is OP)

This is purely speculation and some ignorance.

Daecollo.9578:

Love the changes to flanking strike! Making our skills have combo’s and secondary effect will go a long way to improve the thief, I feel we are too reliant on spamming ‘1’ button for everything.

The Flurry on Pistol Whip needs to activate on hit instead of auto activating regardless of hit or miss.

Its annoying to have to break it’s stun by smashing the keyboard.

Dasorine.1964:

Zacchary.6183:

How about we just scrap the Thief class completely and see what other class is the next poopstain of the month…

Im betting mesmer or ele would be next, after they get removed who knows.. maybe guardian then open season.

I bet it’ll be necros.

How about we just scrap the Thief class completely and see what other class is the next poopstain of the month…

SupahSpankeh.8452:

See, that’s sort of what I mean. Fighting a mesmer, guardian, warrior, engineer, necro, ranger… all fun. Some harder than others, but they’re all fun.

Fighting a good thief is no fun at all. You keep having to hit nearest target to lock on, they’re blinking all over the place (the newer builds, I think it’s S/something, especially port-happy it seems) and it’s a chore.

It’s just annoying. Constantly fighting the GUI to keep the target locked, constantly having to re-apply conditions thanks to cleanse on stealth/port/whatever it is that’s doing it.

Everyone wouldn’t be resorting to constant stealth if you guys didn’t complain that the purposefully highest burst class was being the highest burst class. If you are having trouble with a good thief, then adapt and get better.

PROTIP: If you want to know how a thief plays pvp, then play as a thief.

Let’s remove stealth too! I mean its also OP right?
CRYFEST! READ ME NOW!

How about we scrap the legendary weapon idea since there really are not many of people who would want to master the entire game for 1 of its materials? I mean, there is no point to having one except to show everyone how much of a persistent nolife you are. The slight stat boost a Legendary gives over an Exotic is not worth the massive amount of trouble it takes to get it.

GW2 just came out.