Guild Wars 2

Can confirm lol guard running with 1200 toughness amulet got cc 1 shot by chrono, I dunno why in the world they do so much dmg. No other class I’ve come across can do so much dmg to me when I’m running 1200 toughness lol 1 shot seriously. Oh and if I happen to dodge that 1 shot Guess what chrono immediately able to go for another instakill. What’s up with the dmg.

NovaanVerdiano.6174:

Zach.2618:

NovaanVerdiano.6174:

Sublimatio.6981:

i literally feel like i can’t get gold from anywhere now. idk what to do

Meta event chain hype

also idk why but the fractal cypher boxes sold for like 20s+ yesterday on the tp, made 6 gold with them so it’s something
Gonna die in price anyway

I just sold mine for 45 silver and it was 80s somewhat about 2 hours ago haha apparently there’s something inside that many people want.

No, no. See, we’re dealing with RNG here, something that can give you lots of return if you’re lucky (who knows if the 5g book I pulled is the most worthwhile thing in there) and apparently you can get ascended recipes from those, so you can probably get other stuff too. That’s enough to make people roll on those things like mad, because gambling always makes people spend money in games. lol

Well all the better for me than haha I’d rather be the house supplying the stuff people to gamble:D

Wasabi Kitty.8247:

Zach.2618:

At least give us gold rewards from fractal, where’s the increase reward at? Everything seems to cost gold and I’ve been doing from 50 to 64 today I don’t see an increase in my gold lols ok maybe I got 1 or 2 ascended breathers to sell and the mini mew but where’s the gold?

The daily fractal achievements (to clear a specific fractal) give you keys to open the locked boxes you get at the end. Those boxes give you random stuff and junk items that can be vendored for 10s, 15s, or 1g. The achievements to clear 3 fractals of a certain level (1-20, 21-50, 51-100) work similar to the bouncy chests you would get at the end of fractals before the update. I’ve only done them once but I got a pristine relic, some +1 infusions, an ascended ring, and a junk item that vendors for 1 gold.

It seems like a bit of an increase in gold, though small. Maybe 10-15% more than before.

I had 70 boxes in the end and the keys I got from the dailies certainly weren’t enough to open the chest haha sure if you only have a few boxes to open you could use the keys the daily gave.. But if I wanna open my other boxes I gotta buy the keys myself lol. Unless I wait to play the daily Everyday to get keys I’m gonna eventually lose money. On the bright side I’m selling the chest on the tp now haha why spend 20 silver to open them when I can sell me for 40 silver

So I have been wondering over the past day how to reach fractal 100 without the expansion AR help. Right now I can only reach 65 as I only have 85 AR. I’d be willing to spend 150g to upgrade my rings and back piece to plus 10 infusions which would give me 100AR leading to 70. Now I’m at a lost as to how to get more AR? Another question I have is can I remove the infusions without HoT? I know HoT buyers have an item to remove infusions but I’m not sure where I can find one if I don’t have HoT. If I could find that item I could infuse the plus 10 infusions and upgrade them whoever I have enough plus 1 infusions. Just looking for other options, any ideas? I really like the fractals now but it seems to me that I’m unable to continue. If that is truly the case than sadly I wouldn’t be able to play anymore.

I think you need the expansion and mastery for that. :/ gonna quit gw2 for awhile until I can afford the expansion, no real reason to play anymore.

Legendary back piece collection

NovaanVerdiano.6174:

Sublimatio.6981:

i literally feel like i can’t get gold from anywhere now. idk what to do

Meta event chain hype

also idk why but the fractal cypher boxes sold for like 20s+ yesterday on the tp, made 6 gold with them so it’s something
Gonna die in price anyway

I just sold mine for 45 silver and it was 80s somewhat about 2 hours ago haha apparently there’s something inside that many people want.

PopeUrban.2578:

Basic economics guys.

Everybody’s income was lowered. Including SW due to the change in map rewards passing out far fewer shovels and guild upgrades actually removing shovels.

At the same time everybody’s resource gathering power was raised

It’s a crappy time of economic volitility, yes, but when the dust settles the result is more affordable mats and overall lower prices on everything. They’re deflating gold which means if you have a stockpile of it now it’s actually going up in value.

The numbers on the rewards went down, but the actual value of gold is going up. Revisit the TP in about a month and then see how the reward adjustments feel. if they worked the plan like it seems they’re looking to, you’ll be able to afford roughly as much stuff with 3 fractals worth of money and loot as you could before, but you almost might not have to buy as much stuff because you can more easily farm what you want from map rewards.

Also it doesn’t really make sense that they are actually working to increase the value of gold. I mean ascended salvage kits by the vendor is going at 20g. If what you say is tru and the value of gold goes up doesn’t it mean that just to salvage my ascended rings it’ll cost me a small fortune? Just to salvage a bunch of stuff.

PopeUrban.2578:

Basic economics guys.

Everybody’s income was lowered. Including SW due to the change in map rewards passing out far fewer shovels and guild upgrades actually removing shovels.

At the same time everybody’s resource gathering power was raised

It’s a crappy time of economic volitility, yes, but when the dust settles the result is more affordable mats and overall lower prices on everything. They’re deflating gold which means if you have a stockpile of it now it’s actually going up in value.

The numbers on the rewards went down, but the actual value of gold is going up. Revisit the TP in about a month and then see how the reward adjustments feel. if they worked the plan like it seems they’re looking to, you’ll be able to afford roughly as much stuff with 3 fractals worth of money and loot as you could before, but you almost might not have to buy as much stuff because you can more easily farm what you want from map rewards.

But technically I didn’t feel I got a single gold doing 50 to 64, from opening all the chest and selling the stuff. Got an ascended breather and the mini though. Other than that I didn’t feel like my gold count actually increased, if anything it might have decreased a little haha

I personally have no issues with the instabilities I found them amusing lols bouncing charrs on the ascalonian one and cliffside were amazingly fun. But yeah the rewards Anet, the AR, why so many walls and disadvantages to doing fractals? I wanna do more but can’t because of the AR.

Ok first off I’ve supported your ascended crafting system from the beginning and how it is recommended for raids. But now ascended cost 18 more elonian squares for a full set? Are you kidding me that’s like 18 days or 180 more gold. I myself already got my ascended armor but this change is seriously uncalled for, ascended crafting was decently challenging to get before now it is just gross. I feel so bad for those who need to craft them now. I’m sry all the people I argued against saying ascended was justified, I agree with you now, grind wars 2 to the max. Cost of everything has increased while methods of getting gold have decreased. Where’s the rewards you shifted from dungeons to fractals? I didn’t see any gold rewards in fractals only gold sinks.

Anyone know what the recipe is for getting the full set?:D

Skady.5916:

konnsky.6540:

_Captain Mai Trin Boss:

Fixed some bugs that allowed players to rejoin the fight against Mai Trin after logging out.
Fixed a bug that would allow Kiel to resurrect downed players outside of Mai Trin’s room._

(From HoT patch notes)

She actually still does resurrect players, you just cannot rejoin the fight anymore

You actually still can be rezzed and enter the fight, instead of the weird gate to reenter just go run around Ellen or talk to her whichever works and poof you will reappear inside. Everything still works:D only abit differently, dunno what they fixed lol

Zaron.1987:

Zach.2618:

kittenatiel.2874:

XYLUM.7286:

Considering here have been no new dungeons, or even paths, in YEARS, the only thing that kept the content interesting, aside from the small group size and ease of filling a party, was the loot, however sad and underwhelming it might have been, it was a stable source of a little income that could be acquired while doing the type of content that I enjoyed, with a small group of friends, on a daily basis.

I only commenting on this paragraph, because I didn’t read the rest, too long.

As you said Anet has not done anything with dungeons in years. That is a prime example that they are trying to phase out the content. That being said, if you enjoy GW2 then follow their game plan, instead of dungeons they are pushing fractals. They are a better experience than dunegons, more variety, better rewards, more group-coordination, etc. Fractals are just essential mini-dungeons. Now with fractal leaderboards and that they scale up to 100, fractals are a great medium.

I’d encourage you to take that small group of friends into fractals instead and work together as you scale up. It will be MUCH more rewarding when you guys get certain milestones like 30, 50, 80, and 100 fractal than completing an out of date dungeon.

I would love to do fractals sadly I don’t have HoT which is required to do it:c why Anet why!! Fractals was my love!

you can also do fractals without HoT but your reward is nothing but dont worry cause

We come from nothing, we are going back to nothing-In the end what have we lost? Nothing!’ -Monty Python-^^

Nooo I don’t really care about the reward, I just love fractals and would love to complete fractal 100 sadly without the mastery track I can enjoy the gameplay which requires high AR:c I’m so disheartened. Fractals are so fun sadly I can’t enjoy it.

kittenatiel.2874:

XYLUM.7286:

Considering here have been no new dungeons, or even paths, in YEARS, the only thing that kept the content interesting, aside from the small group size and ease of filling a party, was the loot, however sad and underwhelming it might have been, it was a stable source of a little income that could be acquired while doing the type of content that I enjoyed, with a small group of friends, on a daily basis.

I only commenting on this paragraph, because I didn’t read the rest, too long.

As you said Anet has not done anything with dungeons in years. That is a prime example that they are trying to phase out the content. That being said, if you enjoy GW2 then follow their game plan, instead of dungeons they are pushing fractals. They are a better experience than dunegons, more variety, better rewards, more group-coordination, etc. Fractals are just essential mini-dungeons. Now with fractal leaderboards and that they scale up to 100, fractals are a great medium.

I’d encourage you to take that small group of friends into fractals instead and work together as you scale up. It will be MUCH more rewarding when you guys get certain milestones like 30, 50, 80, and 100 fractal than completing an out of date dungeon.

I would love to do fractals sadly I don’t have HoT which is required to do it:c why Anet why!! Fractals was my love!

kittenatiel.2874:

vespers.1759:

It doesn’t take more than kindergarten logic to understand that a good expansion should leave the base game alone and instead offer new things to encourage players to buy.

Anet has apparently completely failed to understand this, as they have gone the route of kittening over players in a sad attempt to force them to buy.

Because Anet is a company that needs money in order to provide their employees with salaries. It is kindergarten logic that you are a consumer and consumers spend money to enjoy products/services.

Welcome to the world, if you are 16, go get a job. If you are younger than 16 and perfer to live under a rock, go play some other game. Complaining about having to spend money as a consumer is below kindergarten logic.

This expansion will provide entertainment for the next two years for $50. That is a laughable amount of bang for buck.

As someone who is going to buy HoT I also find this move by Anet very cheap. I mean the rewards were always there why lock it behind the expac? Even after I buy HoT I would still want people to play with, people who I could’ve played with but quit because they couldn’t play fotm without the expac. Fotm is so fun now too bad the system sucks.

XYLUM.7286:

Lobo Dela Noche.5127:

Sizer.3987:

So you spent what, a whole hour doing fractals and didnt get rewarded 20 gold from it? Shocking.

Flat gold gains throughout the entire game were nerfed. Going to take a few weeks for the economy to stabilize, and i know this isnt what people want to hear, but if you cant handle it go play a different game for a month and come back.

And in a month prices will be exactly as they are now. The only change will be that players won’t be running dungeons and fractals as much.

And one thing you left out… prices will remain the same, but players will no longer be able to make the gold to afford them… so quality of life in GW2 takes about a 66% nerf, that is a wonderful thank you gift for all of us that have supported this game since launch, purchased gem store goods and now their premium priced expansion.

I see people defending it the decision like they are some wizened sage that knows something that everyone else doesn’t, the reason for that, is they are too heavily invested either financially or emotionally, or both, to admit that the quality of life in GW2 has took a serious nose dive over the past several months, and there appears to be no end in sight.

A total let down to be honest.

Can’t agree with you more, atm I’m wondering how am I going to get more gold to continue crafting my ascended armor for my other toons. Also infusions. There’s like so many new gold sinks but not much gold sources.

It’s easier because if you look at the bosses they are lvl 80 now instead of 82:D so I Guess they do less dmg.

I was planning to buy the expansion but had to wait abit to get the money, thought I could do abit of fotm while I waited boy was I wrong. Seriously what is wrong with you Anet, you can’t just refurbish fotm and than lock it behind the expansion, it just feels wrong just on a feel level lol.

Yeap I agree fractal rewards are not much of an improvement, more like a deprovement.

At least give us gold rewards from fractal, where’s the increase reward at? Everything seems to cost gold and I’ve been doing from 50 to 64 today I don’t see an increase in my gold lols ok maybe I got 1 or 2 ascended breathers to sell and the mini mew but where’s the gold?

64 requires 86 AR and 65 requires 88. That’s where I’ve gotten to, will plan to get more AR by changing to plus 10 infusions.

Was I the only one who thought we would be able to climb fractals easier without HoT? I mean I don’t mind upgrading my rings and back piece to plus 10 infusions and spend a little bit of gold to get 100 AR but then what? If I don’t have the fractal mastery I can’t even do higher than the AR required:c I’m so disappointed in this. At least was hoping easier AR acquisition. On a side not fractals are much more fun now^^ just finished 64. But pls pls pls Anet for all the people who love fractals like I do pls make another route to get AR. The fractals are hard fun and challenging I wanna play it! I wanna get to 100! But I can’t because of not having the fractal mastery. At least make us be able to double infuse armor like rings that way I can spend gold to infuse them too.

Seriously though you can’t ask for a refund just because your expectations were dashed. I myself have also bought the infinite continue coin and I don’t really see a problem with it. When I bought it I used it no matter how Long or short I still used it for its intended purpose, Anet didn’t cheat me of anything because the coin did come to use and fulfilled its purpose at that moment I bought it. I don’t get why people are asking for such ridiculous refunds just because their expectations of SAB were not what they had hoped. That’s life guys, you made the decision to buy it for what it is, an infinite continue coin, you used it in SAB. What I see from people asking for a refund is just a greedy money grab attempt. I myself have played all the SABs and enjoyed them all.

I play a burn build and I gotta say it’s OP as kitten! Haha IMO it’ll definitely get nerfed, in the mean time imma just have fun with it. All you guys complaining about burn are missing the point, stop complaining about it! Use it! Haha use it while it lasts, it’s gonna get nerfed soon, and oh my burning is so fun. Pyromaniac.

Lol grow up. You bought a virtual product its you call your risk for doing so. If it wasn’t up to your expectation just suck it up. Don’t come whining onto the forums with smart kitten smack talk. Boohoo you can’t handle your money well or do your research on a product before buying it, boohoo give me a refund now. Just grow up. If you want a refund just send them a support ticket, no need to come to the forums with so much negativity. Just another whining thread of a baby.

I dunno about you but my rotation is a little diff and IMO is better in group fights. Healing turret bomb kit grenade kit ft mortar. I don’t really see the point of elixir gun just being used as a blast finisher/dmg source with 1 skill the 4th one. My rotation goes somewhat, before fight or enemies getting there, healing turret big ol bomb napalm ft2 orbital strike ft2 that would give my team 18 stacks of might from the get go. Grenade spam. Once healing turret goes off cool down, healing turret big ol Bomb (roughly the same cd time) bomb kit fire field, ft2 inside detonate turret. Boom another 9 might. Rinse and repeat add in rifle skills whoever off cooldown. 18 might with 9 might upkeep every 20 secs or so. That IMO is the highest group support/dps rotation. If we don’t have a might stacker already this will work great, if we do have a might stacker it will also help upkeep 25 might almost permanently. IMO engi is how you play it and what you do in diff situations, what you described is just a dps rotation. Engi is so much more than that. For instance if your team is in really bad shape you could blast water fields instead of fire or blast mortar poison field for the aoe weakness. It’s really versatile. Or you could just play sinister engi to answer your question. If engi is so mundane as how you described it to be than I’m sorry but you’re not really playing your engi right. I run my above mentioned rotation in fractals 50 Everyday with pugs and friends alike, it works out pretty well, at the end of the day it’s how you want to play the class @OP if you wanna use turrets if you can somehow find a way to make it work for you than use it lol

shion.2084:

Even in fast connection play, if your doing like a 3V3 and the area your trying to heal on is saturated with AOE and conditions this can happen. Basically it can happen to you on any ?V3 or more, and in limited cirucmstances less than that.

You see I don’t think condi cleanse of your fellows, even on point, would save your turret. So you basically have to run out of the thick of things in order to go heal… quite a disadvantage over how it use to be… and of course your healing blasts won’t help your teammates anymore….

Yeah that’s how I feel too:c maybe they could make the turret invuln for like 1sec or something so it would actually work as a healXD. I mean I don’t think when other players set down aoes all over the place their intention is to destroy enemy engi healing turrets. 1sec invuln on healing turret won’t really be a game changer as it doesn’t give any benefit other than being able to survive 1 Sec for the cleanse.

Guys if you look at the whole thread it is mostly just ohoni arguing against everyone else. Why is this thread still alive seriously, just let ohoni perceive it as taking grind to a whole new lvl who cares. Why are you trying to convince someone who obviously won’t be convinced.

Aww alright thanks for the infoXD man that sucks.

Function gyro should be able to travel to the bank/tp/merchant/mf whenever you’re in lions arch so you don’t have to move around. It’s is a function gyro after all, so pls make it function.

It’s only 4 clicks away, if you do it fast enough you could do it in 2 secs

Omg no pls, with so many condis around at least let me cleanse without dying from confusion.

In pve fractals 50 for example, I just use my engi net turret rifle net shot spam, linked with mortar chill aoe and chill grenades. Haha it usually works pretty well with some of the mobile bosses. Like mossman, or the 1st and last boss of the archdiviner, or the ice shaman dude at the end of the ice core fractal. It’s a pretty good soft cc class IMO for immobilising enemies you don’t want running around:D

Where are all these people coming from seriously. Lots of threads nowadays just taking a small change and assuming that the world is coming to an end and using more assumptions to back up your assumption. It’s like people who create this thread either have severe paranoia or come from the future. OP most of your points are just baseless assumptions that you create to support your argument, actually there is completely no link whatsoever with the title which is ‘being removed’ which I don’t think it is, and the ridiculous gear overhaul which you exaggerate about.

Ryan.9387:

It feels like a needless waste of time especially when refining stacks of materials.

How badly do you need, I mean if it takes THAT Long that it bothers you, you could always just go do something else while you let it run. Get a glass of water, take a shower, talk to your dog. If everything that is a ‘needless waste’ of time according to you than gw2 would become a very boring game with totally 0 immersion.

Starfall.6425:

I think there is a difference if something is OP or if something is currently strong and will change with the next meta-patches. I think burn is currently strong and I also see it getting nerfed next.. but I absolutely don’t see it as OP.

Even if my signature stated Guard I play more classes and don’t care if I face a burn guard. I know how to play it so I know what to expect.. if he is better he wins, if not I win.

I think OP was just using the term OP as currently strong as you say it. It’s just his way of defining OP. After all we don’t all have the same understanding of the term OP. In my book OP and currently strong is the same. Although we can’t all agree on term usage, at least we agree that burn will get a change lol.

Ahh yes my ping is usually quite high haha I’m in the same time zone as Aussie, I don’t really 1v3 per se, it’s more like when I suddenly get ganked and I wanna do a quick heal while running away haha my turret sometimes fail me in that regard.

I’m pretty sure burn in pvp will be nerfed in the patch they said they would do 2 weeks before the release of leagues. I mean whether you are able to counter burns or not you gotta admit it’s a pretty op condition in pvp. We can only wait and see, if burns are nerfed in the future that means OP was right. Well in my opinion it will be nerfed eventually. Condis as a whole will probably be nerfed before leagues. Who wants to see competitive pvp with condi spam and cleanse everywhere:/ it would probably be quite boring. I think Anet will balance it abit to bring back some diversity instead of condi meta.

Well in pvp everyone thinks they are better than you or at least try to be better than you. There will bound to be a lot of negativity. Many people play pvp to boost their ego/feel good at something, if they can’t do that obviously they would get upset lol. It’s just human nature.

Yeap sometimes my healing turret dies so fast after I place it down it’s ridiculous. This happens more so in pvp, you know the moment you get a kitten ton of dmg and conditions dumped onto you, you do a quick dodge and summon the awesome healing turret to heal and blast finisher it, the moment you place it down and use the heal it just explodes on its own without blasting in the water field. I dunno if it’s because of conditions dmg or what but the healing turret should at least be able to last until I spam shift 1 and than blast it. And yes I do know how to blast my healing turret almost instantly been playing engi for about 800 hours now. It’s just a pvp exclusive thing, healing turret dies so fast if you 1v3 or sometimes even 1v2.

Imagine the wings of the nevermore Raven stretching out and touching your opponent lol

Lol this is the most ridiculous complain I’ve ever heard. Anet adds new stuff to a class, complains about how nothing new is added to the ‘core’ class. Now what? Dragon hunter gets traps guardians get nothing, erm maybe because dragon hunters are guardians (‘core class’) that got something? It’s just the name of that something your core classes got.

Daedolon.4583:

Finally a Legendary pistol that looks great & suits perfect for my Engineer,
I just wish there was also a legendary rifle that suited the Engineer.
The Predator’s got a Scope and it’s looks great with Warrior class but
when used by the Engineer its held like a shotgun so looks rubbish, I hope the GW2 : HOT has a Legendary shotgun (side x side sawn off would be great )
.

I main engi and got the predator and it’s awesome:D I like to imagine I’m just so kitten like Rambo I can shoot a flaming sniper rifle without aiming and from the hip lols. If they were to create a shotgun rifle legendary I’d hope it will be a funny kind of weapon like quip haha I would like a diff style legendary for each weapon type 1 fun and 1 serious haha

quaniesan.8497:

what? no more toy-like designs for legendary weapons? I guess three years did grow someone up.

Well technically the staff was a rainbow staff which may not appeal to all, so they made a serious one this time. The quip was a funny one also that’s why they made a serious pistol this time. As for the axe it’s kinda still serious I dunno it’s neutral. We might be getting a toy like gs next since we already got 3 serious gs which appeal to serious lovers. We fun people need our toys too, or maybe a toy hammer or rifle. Or sword. Well all the original serious legendaries could be toy ones next. If they made them all serious I would be really unhappy because it would be lame.

Also growing up doesn’t mean you can’t enjoy the funny stuff.

I dunno if black would be the best choice, hmm maybe if every dyed purple as close to the Color of illusions as possible.

On second thought big characters would work too, make all 5 charr or norn mesmers scaled to the biggest and bulkiest size. Ofc choosing only either one. Have all 5 skin either the black of white wings to make the character look bigger haha. Epic confusion.

Random thought, get together 4 friends all of you create an asura Mesmer with similar names eg, li Mesmer Li and il Mesmer il and Li Mesmer il etc you get what I mean. Create them with exactly identical looks and gender. Go into game, and skin all of the 5 mesmers with the dullest looking armor you can find, all wearing the same armor ofc, dye all of the mesmers black from head to toe. If possible all 5 mesmers skin the purple misty gs, or other purple misty weapons of choice. To make it even better if possible all skin legendaries for maximum confusion. All 5 go into pvp and watch everyone get hurt in confusion. Ofc assuming decently skilled mesmers all of them are.

Gold just makes everything have a fixed value regardless or personal value because of the trading post which is obviously driven my the community. For example if gold didn’t exist player A could trade a spark precursor for maybe the minstrel. It’s all up to person how much something is worth to him if there was no gold. But because of gold we are all lead to follow every single item with a fixed value just because of the tp. It’s just an interesting thought, I’ve played games with no gold and only trading between players and it is fun, negotiating with other players on their goods. The problem of there being excess mats is not the fault of the game having no gold but instead of the game design itself which generates an excessive amount of mats. It’s like mat inflation, you need 250 mats to craft a legendary if they would make just maybe a T7 mat you would only need 1. And than reduce the T6 drop rate, and reduce the amount of T6 mats required to craft other stuff. It’s possible to not have so many mats but I guess the game is designed to make you feel as if you have a ton of loot. Would you rather have a ton of loot that has very Low value or just a few loot with higher value. Some mats in the game are just inflated too much, that’s why I think they are going to implement some changes to salvaging drop rates.

But at the end of the day I’m not serious guys, it’s just an interesting thought on what gw2 would be if it revolved around trade.

VictorTroska.3725:

Am I only one who dont mind missing out raids because I am in full Soldier’s Exotic gear even after playing three years on same character? Folks who claim that wearing top tier gear makes one more “skillful” than others and thus “worthy” of raids, I say; good for you. Keep grinding. Although having best gear indeed makes you worthy of raids and thus reap its rewards. I would suggest to break the illusion that Gear = Skill.

PS: Raids, like Fractals and Dungeons are just something I have no interest in. But for folks who like to work and update their gear, thumbs up.

But you CAN do raids in exotics:D you are welcomed in my party any day! As Long as you Rez me when I die and I Rez you when you die we can be friends!

DoctorDing.5890:

Zach.2618:

DresdenAllblack.1249:

I thought grinding was when you rubbed up against two strange girls in the club?!?

according to ohoni it is a grind because you only want what’s gonna happen at the end and not the process of buying them drinks. Life is such a grind.

I think you might be confusing grind with bump.

…boom….tish!

I’ve been told some feel better grinding than bumping lol. kitten we gotta stop this now, we’re gonna get infracted and banned from the forums.