Guild Wars 2

Let’s not compare the value of achievements gentlemen shall we? I don’t believe anyone here is claiming to be “the better player” so this discussion is pointless.
Maybe if you want to compete then the four of you should agree on a challenge with set parameters. This would be very interesting to watch since you are all very talented players

Actually I would be very happy to organize this is part of the Ascension Project.

haviz.1340:

Server, right? But judging by the attachment i’d say it’s NA.

You are too clever

haviz.1340:

And this is why this game goes downhill spectacularly fast.

They are working for scarlet

And you forgot the most important thing …

Is it me or anet put an “anet” tag on this thread without posting anything in it?

Behold the mighty elemental tanking mossman like a boss!

haviz.1340:

Did mossman learn how to swim? He’s becoming Chuck Norris with every patch.

Did you know that axes can fly through water like thin air?

Snowblind
-new camera (completely unnecessary)
-mobs in the run-by part are more numerous or more packed

But hey at least they didn’t break our class more! If you look at how broken this patch is you will come to think this is a huge success!!

Maybe they should get one tester?

Necroing this thread due to an unexpected turn in the story of Lingering Elements.

There is something I need to get out of my chest:

MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHrglbl..

Ok now I really died from laughter.
R.I.P Zelyhn – Elementocided

This is most impressive!

Enaretos is working on making a memorable video, many thanks to him!

We would like to add some script to the video: would the performers agree to give us some comments or anything you would like to add? We could do some interviews as well

Then this is not the guide you are looking for. Neko is doing a wonderful job at providing general information. As for me I focus mainly on what I play, because only then can I provide a high level of details.

durend.6237:

I just realized. Somewhere in there I remember them saying “agony will now only affect player controlled characters” to assure people their pets are safe.

RIP mesmer mimic/echo

So much for telling us that was something they were 100% cool with us doing.

Behold the mighty tank golem !!

Then I can’t wait to see Sandy become a cow
Oh well he did almost solo GL as a dolyak …

He didn’t say on which level he is doing it haha

Ok very nice!

Enaretos you feel like you can do some compilation? let’s meet up on ts and discuss ideas

Also I am not pleased by your antagonism and your arrogance.

Anierna.6918:

@ Zelyhn: that quote may indeed be sig-worthy

If you are going to quote me then quote me correctly

@Jeydra
I find a lot of truth in what you are saying, and it goes along with my philosophy. You understand that there is a difference between a build that can use LH efficiently and a build that must use LH to be efficient, don’t you?

Anierna, pretty much everything you say is right, but your approach to this forum is quite wrong.

DiogoSilva.7089:

Lingering elements will get fixed next (= tomorrow) patch, which is good news for eles who spec both in earth and arcana.

It is very bitter good news. Tomorrow I mourn.

Anierna arcane lightning gives 10% extra crit damage not 15%.

Mad Rasputin.7809:

No.

It is too easy to get dragonite ore as it is. Empyreal fragments are harder to get. Dungeons/Fractals are the main source of Empyreal. Don’t take one of them away.

The amount from Jumping puzzles and open world chests is laughable.

Dragonite ore is easily obtained by running a couple temples or world bosses. Guesting is your friend here.

I did world bosses to farm for my ascended dagger once.

Anicetus.1253:

Thats sadly true for WvW and PvP. In PvE especially staff elementalists got strong buffs and some are still coming. A bit confusing how they buff pve eles and nerf pvp eles when they should do the opposite (or well, at least buff pvp eles). :/

Staff and LH are strong in PvE in speedruns with optimal groups, but only in those situations, and only because they get carried by other classes.

Shout-out to all talented players:

Tomorrow fractals 50+ will be taken away from us. We have very little time to go there and show that content who’s the boss! Achieve anything you think is worthy of remembrance and post your video is this thread.

Tonight we dine in Fotm!

Sanderinoa.8065:

Zelyhn.8069:

I think Dub will be happy to take my place in the meantime.

where did you get this delusion that Dub does fractals?

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/elementalist/Please-fix-the-Ele-Profile-Description/first#post3256920

Here it is, sorry!
I will be able to do runs this evening, I think Dub will be happy to take my place in the meantime.

@Patrikan Habaton
Loved it!

@Enaretos
No precise idea at the moment, I am not skill in the art of making videos I am sure someone with such talent will be inspired!

I am started a topic about making a tribute video for fotm 80.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/livingworld/fractured/Tribute-Video-compilation/first
In the name of all the fun we had playing at this level let’s make this a real statement

Since high level fractals are going away tomorrow (and will probably return only in one year time, or never) wouldn’t it be awesome to have a video compilation of the best feats of skills achieved so far?

I am thinking of things like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V03lwZKW_k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owKbxqNPwn0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CndcoIwxAcs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYpAUwn_wfY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFkCvupAJQY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVHRanhbbiI

Also I encourage all elite players to rush and do similar challenges so we have more videos to add to this list. If I have missed some please post them here.

Can someone work on making such video compilation? Maybe add some commentaries, let’s make this tribute beautiful

The next patch will boost the Fresh Air D/F ! Can’t wait for it indeed

Edit: OP deleted his message

We are never “below 10% hp”, we are above 90% hp, or with 25% hp running away screaming for your lives, or dead.

Razor.6392:

Stopped reading at casting drake breath to benefit from bonus 10% damage from Air.

Lingering attunements doesn’t work that way.

Haha surely you have missed that I am waging a holy war with the devs about Lingering Elements because I wish they would make this trait as awesome as it should be

Anyway if you read everything before that you should know that I would not put more than 10 points in Arcana, so no Lingering Elements, instead we are using the ability to swap attunements during casts to benefit from the air bonuses while casting spells from other attunements.

I can not say. My personal conviction is that staff is not the best choice for fractals. If you want to use it anyway then hopefully an adept of this weapon will advise you

Then Anierna’s statement does not apply to you

Good luck leveling your ele, I am sure you will enjoy it !

When you say you are going to add more levels, is it going to be in November 2014 ?

CMstorm.8679:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fEAQFAWhImMbyx4gjDAhHEoQCiCWUeEzN1A-jwBB4fAkIAJfFRjtKsIasKGY6TER1eeFRrWKgIWGB-e

30/10/0/0/30 for my fire line, i’ll have Internal Fire(vi) the new Burning Fire trait(ii) and for now I just threw spell slinger as my master trait instead of the current Burning Fire and my GM is Pyromancers puissance.

this staff build will be for Pve and I think that with the buff to Arcane Retribution, it’ll be a decent setup as it offers a lot of might from runes, sigil, and glyph. And I might put blasting staff in for Arcane Mastery when the patch takes effect.

What kind of PvE do you play and with what kind of team mates?

ThiBash.5634:

Zelyhn.8069:

Truth be told, pretty much all staff builds are bad at the moment.

Either you just gave me a huge compliment (because I do pretty well with staff) or we just disagree.

Yes I am being a bit too harsh
We should have a more extensive and objective discussion on this!

Truth be told, pretty much all staff builds are bad at the moment.

Anicetus.1253:

Elementalist is the strongest profession on paper.

Strong on paper
Made of paper
All hail the paper dragon!

As a dps staff you must stay in fire, so in fact you virtually have only one attunement.
You must also stay within 600 range of your targets to trigger stone splinters, and you may have to stand within blast combo radius of your target (360) to benefit from your party’s boons.

Strontius.6478:

ughh why did you necro this thread? For a second I got excited and actually thought the devs were coming back to this forum to post again.
Q_Q

I had a mini heart attack

Alright I have some time to reply now. I am travelling and writing from a mobile device, sorry for the possible inconvenience.

If I understood you well Anierna you are saying that I should mention the fact that the D/F builds I talk about are generally less potent in terms of might stacking than S/x. You are saying that for speedruns it is more optimal to run builds dedicated to the lightning hammer.

I used to have a whole paragraph talking about the LH but I discarded it when I re-wrote my guide. Instead I expressed my gaming philosophy in the introduction and any cautious reader can then understand why I am not talking – and will not talk – about dedicated LH builds.

There are three reasons.

1) This is not a thread talking about speedrunning.
I understand that you wish to attract attention to your thread talking about “meta” builds for speedruns, I encourage you to develop it, but this is off-topic here.
The title mentions “advanced” PvE and I talk about “challenging content”. This may come as a shock to many but in my opinion the only thing challenging in a speedrun with an optimal team is skipping the mobs correctly. The fights last 30 seconds at most. Anyone interested in this boring type of gameplay can easily go on the Dungeon subforums and get all information they need (including my detailed talks about LH and staff).
Players wishing to do speedruns in optimal set ups are a minority and they are not my target audience.

2) The builds I mention are highly capable of performing in speedruns.
Yes I do use the LH, because with my build I can. Any of the builds you support are locked into one set up and this is simply limiting. Let’s face it: a speedrun build is worthless outside of a speedrun team, or in a challenging situation.
You are right that my builds stack a bit less might than speedrun builds, but my builds are so much more efficient in other ways. For example the combo of weak spot and fiery rush is incredibly strong and gives me value in speedruns. I have no dps numbers to give at the moment but I am quite confident that the dps potential of D/F is not far from that of dedicated LH builds, which leads me to my third reason.

3) I want to play an Elementalist, not a boring warrior gimmick.
I have lost enough brain cells doing optimal speedruns when I first started playing. Now I want to enjoy my time. D/F works really well in so many situations, it works with LH, and it is fun.

In conclusion I can do what you can’t do and I can do what you do almost just as well. To each his own!
By looking at the type of content that Anet is releasing I know my choices will pay off even more in the future.

@ Anierna and Zenith
You seem to have built up quite some anger!
If you would like to discuss the efficiency of the builds I advocate I kindly invite you to do this in my thread since it would be really off-topic here

I am afraid this is not going to be possible.
I have no footage from my previous runs, and I doubt my team is going to want to do high level fotm runs now that we know our personal reward levels will be reset to 30 and hard capped at 50 next week.

No thank you, sorry but I am confident with my numbers
If you would like to discuss the validity of my calculations, and what they imply, you can do this in my DPS calculator thread.

Paciunek.2496:

I think builds are the same as usual: 30 water, 30 arcana and 10 whatever for both weapons. December 10 patch maybe will bring some changes for eles.

Please no

I play fotm 70+ with an offensive build (30/30/0/0/10 zerker scholar D/F) and I am doing fine
But in fact I agree: Anierna’s “meta” builds are only good for specific speedruns, definitely not for PvE as a whole.

@Jeydra
In staff if you swap to water then your are locked out of fire for a long time, which dramatically reduces your dps.
The scepter’s sustained damage is very low. I have explained this in many threads in the past, if you need it I can explain it here again, otherwise the rotation calculator I will release in the near future will dispel any confusion.
Cleansing wave from the OH dagger has the same effects as healing ripple + the cleansing wave trait, except it is on a 40 second cooldown and with lengthy cast time.
It is true that mobility is an issue for D/F as it is, but as I always say all elementalists should learn to use all weapons and conjures and pick the set-up best suited for the situation, so one can easily swap weapons occasionally for better mobility. Anyway I find that I can keep up with most warriors by using a combination of perma-swiftness and lightning leap. Also as Haviz pointed out, if you know that you are going to to a run-by in combat then the FGS + One with air can solve all your problems.
The only way I face world bosses is in small committee: four or five players at most. In this kind of situation tagging the boss is not really the challenge anymore I like to play in melee because this is where the fun is. I play for fun! This is why I do not advise to run fire-staff builds or LH builds: they are boring and not efficient outside of speedruns.

@Hedonismbot
Thank you for your appreciation. Neko and I are driven by our will to help this profession’s community achieve more. We want elementalists to be better players. If our advice is useful we are very happy.
While we encourage everybody to stick to the play-style they like, we will always try to guide them to the most optimal way to achieve this.
This thread is, and will remain, about “advanced” PvE. What I mean by this is the type of content that challenges you at all times. This is especially true for fractals (even more so when they release all levels), most dungeons and a lot of world content if you are not in a zerg situation. My view is that D/F is the best set-up for this type of encounters, and I will keep talking mainly about this weapon.

Please do not hesitate to ask any question that you have, like Shadowfax did. I believe discussing is the best way to clarify any kind of matter

I soloed everything in the tower with ease using my build