Guild Wars 2

Ramoth.9064:

Zoltreez.6435:

Ramoth.9064:

Yeah sure, there’s barely a silver lining to VP getting nerfed, but even without it, at over 50%, its enough to pull off an RS4, RS5 and a couple auto chains of RS1 for good measure.

I’m talking PvP of course. You can still sponge burst attacks with shroud, even more than before if you pick up the new VP.

Its really not the end of the world.

Unless you are camping shroud of course, in which case LOL.

im 100% sure your not playing anykind of working Power build thats for freaking sure…
your those condi meta boys am i right ?

as a Power Reaper ALLOT of our dmg is in the form… ALLOT…

Ok, then I’m sure you’re setting because I’ve been playing power the last two seasons.

pocket ele ?

Ramoth.9064:

Yeah sure, there’s barely a silver lining to VP getting nerfed, but even without it, at over 50%, its enough to pull off an RS4, RS5 and a couple auto chains of RS1 for good measure.

I’m talking PvP of course. You can still sponge burst attacks with shroud, even more than before if you pick up the new VP.

Its really not the end of the world.

Unless you are camping shroud of course, in which case LOL.

im 100% sure your not playing anykind of working Power build thats for freaking sure…
your those condi meta boys am i right ?

as a Power Reaper ALLOT of our dmg is in the form… ALLOT…

Serenity.6135:

Ramoth.9064:

Sophie.6098:

WoW, Anet you really screwed up this one didn’t you, Like 5 seconds of shroud IF it doesn’t get ripped right away. Please explain to me how in WvW Necros get stabs now, and as a power necro why would you take my DPS state away?!?! Whoever thought of this needs to be fired right away, because clearly, THEY’RE STUPID!

It’s 4% per second…

In 5 seconds you’ve only lost 20%

That’s assuming you don’t use any skills or take any damage.

and ? its still bassicaly an indirect Buff to all the condi builds againts us….
its not like Condi is meta or anything am i right ? its a HUGE nerf…

Mea.5491:

When I saw the patch notes I literally cried. I absolutely hate this change, it’s horrible. I am beyond sad and disappointed… My build just feels weird and ruined. First time in many years I want to quit my Necro main. I honestly just lost all the motivation to play the expansion. I am utterly disgusted by this nerf.

What can i say ?

just came back to GW2 like a week ago to play my Power Reaper GS/Axe

and now they hit me in the face with this load of BS of a “Balance Patch”…….

Squee.7829:

vicious.5683:

Squee.7829:

I think at this point they’re used to seeing the overblown exaggerated “YOU KILLED MY CLASS FOREVER AND EVER AND EVERYTHING IS TERRIBLE!” responses that flood those forums with literally every skill change update. That is until people find out they can just kind of…adapt a little bit and nine times out of ten, they realize that nothing was “OMG RUINED” and quiet down again. Until the next skill update.

you say that because you clearly don’t have a clue of what a HUGE nerf necros received.

My primary character is a necromancer. My power build needs some work now, but my cond build and my lazy “let minions do all the work and make me durable” build are definitely not ruined. I noticed a change, and a drop in performance here and there, but for the next hour or so, I’m going to be seeing what changes I can make tomake it better, as I have with every update so far, and most likely find that I’m really no better off for this patch.

Probably. I mean, sure there’s a chance they really did mess up the class in a way that can’t be fixed. I don’t know yet, and it’s happened at least once before. But it’s not likely the case. Every single time skills change, people outcry the hour(s) after the update without even trying to see what they can do to improve things on their end. It’s nothing new.

there is nothing to Improve on the entire shroud ad the entire traitline got nerfed to the ground…

at this point it eguals as a nonexisting trait line…

and the only real sustain the necros have ( Shroud ) got nerfed with it to oblivion..

even tough we allready had sustain issues….

power necros just got gutted…

the only people that still be able to stay somewhat relevant are the Condi meta people… but even some of the condi builds got hit hard with this….

Necros are weak in both pve and pvp and not realy wanted… and they NERFED IT….

Kam.4092:

Iridi.8473:

Mark my words, scourge will be a terrible specialization.

You guys are being mega downers. There’s probably going to be another patch the day of Path of Fire launch.

that nerfs us even more ???

Cloud Windfoot Omega.7485:

this is what MOST profession subfoums looks like right now

not just necro

oh trust me non of them got gutted as hard as necros…..

Relwin.7569:

I wouldn’t rather say that devs are bad or so. I think they know what they do.

PFFFFFFFFFFFFF BAHAAHAAHAAAHAAHAAHAAHAHAHAHA…oh my back…

Serenity.6135:

Zoltreez.6435:

Fenrir Bartea.5917:

Agreed. This change is terrible for wvw. That extra time out of shroud destroys any counterplay to a daredevil or other fast class. In exchange for what? Some swiftness that does us absolutely zero good up against all the gap openers & closers on literally every other class. Laughable.

lets not forget how that swiftness will be converted to a Condition almost instantly XDDD

Also swiftness is pretty much useless in combat!

agree….

i don’t want to bloat the general discussion with all the wrong you did and how you ruined the entire necro as a whole…

so just check the necro forums……..and see for yourself…

Fenrir Bartea.5917:

Agreed. This change is terrible for wvw. That extra time out of shroud destroys any counterplay to a daredevil or other fast class. In exchange for what? Some swiftness that does us absolutely zero good up against all the gap openers & closers on literally every other class. Laughable.

lets not forget how that swiftness will be converted to a Condition almost instantly XDDD

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

jucep.2094:

no more Ticket cap , i just got 14 tickets on the first Diamond Chest after finishing diamond tier.

This is unintended. There is supposed to be a weekly ticket cap and we will be fixing this.

Devs be like: " Rewarding players for investing their time in our game ?! WE CANT HAVE THAT ! "

Tiresias.6473:

Could we just… bake in the cooldown reduction from Speed of Shadows and reduced Life Force decay from Vital Persistence to the baseline Shroud?

Please ArenaNet… you’re breaking my heart!

Serenity.6135:

vicious.5683:

Serenity.6135:

Shroud ends faster, and you have to wait longer to use it again…yea thanks anet.

Reduced survivability and same old (and lame) dps.

Lol what dps, you can just kite a necro, outlast their shroud and kill them before they even get to you.

i cant tell the amount of times i got killed by people that just run away from me while shooting me with ranged abilities to death….

but 1st jump on me with a burst that removes 80% of my shrouds HP….. then just kite till im dead…..

or just simply Knock me down and arround infinitely till both my HP and shroud is gone and im dead….

necros have sooooooo many issues and they nerf it THIS hard is laughable…..

dzeRnumbrd.6129:

This has to have been one of the worst patches for necros in my memory.

agree

We got gutted hard…..

LEAVE IT AS IT IS !!!!

Iridi.8473:

Mark my words, scourge will be a terrible specialization.

we somewhat allready know this…… but devs making sure that everything else with necro suck just as hard…

Devs managed to nerf both in PvE and PvP a class that had issues in both…

Devs pounding Necros into the Dirt……

yeah Gz…….realy……

I want my shroud Recharge Back T.T

At this speed nobody will play necro the time the expansion releases…

necro is turning into trash tier….

Lord Velar.1509:

Hesacon.8735:

They nerfed power necro and power reaper, both of whih relied on shroud.

i Wish they would rework one of the 3 traits into this :

while your Shroud is active you gain Protection every 2 sec…… or something…… ANYTHING…..

this nerfed BOTH our lacking PvE DPS

AND our Lacking sustain againts player tunneling…

GZ for nerfing BOTH stuff that necros have issues with…

just GZ……… necros will be Tunneled even harder now and will be easier to tunnel down….

Slowclap…….

Seriously just DO IT………

Revert it….. before even that small ammount of necro players that still play that forsaken nerfed to hell lacking Class Leave it to play other classes…..

Buff/rework the other 2 100% useless traits Instead of nerfing the only useful one in that row……

im waiting for the day when we have almost the entire MAP filled with zones from expansions…..

Tldr:

OP loves boring super repetative games that has no adventure and gets handholded in everything…..

i bet he also hates Witcher 3….

Stalvros.9217:

Don’t kill Balthazar in Tyria?
Go kill Balth somewhere else and let the erupt magic ‘erupt’ there?
I assume Balth has a ‘home’ somewhere….. interdimensional portal…..

he lives next to Khorne. he even has his own skull throne…..

HYPE for Necro changes…

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

Hydras.

Here’s one example: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Veteran_Fire_Hydra

They were found in the Crystal Desert long ago: https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Hydra_

Good luck.

talking about the litle things lol

what are those things XD

ZeftheWicked.3076:

8. You get to own hordes of enemies with cripple! The most fearsome condition of all will accompany you on just about any skillcast, fear the cripple!

this made me laugh XDDD

DO IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

my wallet begs for it…….

I heard they reworking the entire Spite trait line

And also some of the Reaper trait line to move it away from condi back to power where it originaly was intended to be.

sadly no specific infos about these yet…..

soooo Buffs Confirmed ? this alone got me hyped for the expansion lol

Power Reaper buffs changes in the traits and Spite tree rework confirmed to bring Reaper back in line as a Power build….

this alone got me hyped to hell….

no specific infos yet tough.

Also MOUNTS well animated MOUNTS with abilities and Dying freaken can color the MOUNTS !!!!!!!

those numbers on abilities and Traits are just broken….

the new spec needs a nerf all around almost everywhere lol

zealex.9410:

Ok if we kill another dragon the magic gets released and rip tyria. But balth will absorb said magic so why is it bad?

you realy want to give so much Power to a War and blood Hungry mad god of war ????

Too much boon and condi spam……

everyone is runing with stacked to the booth with every single existing Boon onthem and they can keep them up Permanently no matter how many times you removed them…..

Danikat.8537:

Even if someone is using the elite spec they’re also using 2 core specs. So they’re hardly forgotten or abandoned. Even if 100% of people were using elite specs they’d also be using the core specs alongside them.

And it will be the same when PoF is released because Anet have already said the new elite specs will only be able to go in the 3rd slot, so it will be one or the other, you can’t have both elite specs together.

and ? the core specs are nothing else in this case then just some Buffer for the Elite spec that you actualy use…..

Spec would sell anyway even if they would be equal because well they are new specs…with new gameplay…

how about buffing most of the useless Specs then ?

for casual PvE go with Shout Power Reaper…..

seriously EASIEST class ever with crazy self sustain and reeeeeealy good dmg….

you can literaly solo the entire HoT Map outside of bosses with it….

and its realy simple to use….

I want an expansion spec that focuses on the minions for Necro

and gives us some BIG meaty monsters that are good for zerg fights…….

yeah would be nice if necromancer in this game would be an actual necromancer…

at this point the original specs… not all of them but the good majority of them is just outright bad compared to the elite specs that we have now and is coming….

90% of people running elite specs…

the Meta is mostly elite specs…

and it seems like the original specs are totaly forgotten with barely any changes happening to them….

any news on this ?

I allready see it…… will be OP as hell…..

Its called EXPLORATION op……..

90% of the people started playing this game because of the freedom they have….

there is enough of Handholding super linear boring mmos out there you can go and play them instead its more your style it seems…

it has no immunities or blocks….

so atleast give us some MEANINGFUL Stability that litle stack we can get doesent worth crap…

the moment i try to do something on my Reaper im perma knocked arround like a freaken overusedkittendoll……..

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

Zoltreez.6435:

Hesacon.8735:

Both base necro and reaper will retain shroud. Scourge still uses the life force mechanic.

You will have 3 methods by which you can use your life force: Death Shroud, Reaper Shroud, or Sand Shroud. So really you’re gaining a new way to play.

oh so Shroud actualy stays but its more like a resource in the Exp ???

Life Force stays, but Shroud does not. The new F2-F5 skills cost Life Force to use.

ooooh thats actualy somewhat nice……

Brujeria.7536:

Ravezaar.4951:

We also may get Sigil barriers tho so have to see on them

Yeah, Sigils, Spite line will get a rework, and what i have seen from the core warrior changes i hope that we get many more stuff changed. Hopefully DM to include barrier.

What rework ?

who said that ?

INFOS LINKS NOW !!!!!!! pleeeeeeease….

Hesacon.8735:

Both base necro and reaper will retain shroud. Scourge still uses the life force mechanic.

You will have 3 methods by which you can use your life force: Death Shroud, Reaper Shroud, or Sand Shroud. So really you’re gaining a new way to play.

oh so Shroud actualy stays but its more like a resource in the Exp ???