Guild Wars 2

Justine.6351:

I went through and made it more staff oriented.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQFAWjEqQNLWyCusAVLWMEMmAworBA3VHrp1m31JoFcSSLJN-TlRFAB9pEsKlftt/oDAgHAwhq/kwFAIAACwMnZAwMn5Mn5MnZhAUMHA-w

I avoided making it glass by using celestial trinkets.
I left the weapon swap set out. You can use,
Longbow
Axe or sword with, torch or axe

If you want it to be glass mix it sinister and rampager stats.

Oh and I put provisioner food in it, that’s a wvw dispenser thing you can/should get.

justine you shouldn’t use the infusions in the editor because not everyone has the ascended atuned and infused. And also you need a lot of laurels to make them so whoch is hard timegated.

Fluffball.8307:

Justine.6351:

for the armor on a power druid you can make,

berserkers
marauders
celestial
zealots

Those 4 stat sets can be used in any power build with the weapons and trinkets defining the build overall.

Soldier’s is good as well for roaming in WvW. Like a double melee bruiser build.

maraurders are actually the way to go for power build. cheap to make also. Ranger need crit to make some damage otherwise the dps is too low.

Supreme.3164:

Longbow ranger doesn’t work?….

http://www.grabber.xyz/2016/06/guild-wars-2-epic-gameplay-druid-wvw-montage-crowd-control.NTI8nHmOpEx.html

The montage is nice and i like the music… But my god those were really really baddies… worst even the pugs from vizunah square server.

when you see a DH attacking with the LB at melee range all the time instead swap you know there is something wrong there.
The guy is not great either, that minute were he takes out the DH trapped in his roots using PBS was cringeworthy….

yeah i like the shamman thing.
The spec seems too weak and bland thou, weaker than the vanilla ranger which would makw it underisable. You could add more effects to the unity because
Why only affects the weapon?
couldn’t the ranger get other skills\effects when they join?

UmbraNoctis.1907:

PvE dps is meanigless for WvW/PvP and those tests compare PvE meta builds and not max dps builds (which isn’t the same in case of ranger).

it is a Representative idea of about max dps any class can pump. which in this case leave the ranger at the bottom. Actually that compare they actual max dps for ranger as other dude did a full chart with all possible builds and average dps of the best damage build was about 3k higher than what is shown,

In any case not that matters as the average hp pool is around 18k so more damage than that is not of any consequence. But gives you an idea of the damage pressure they can apply, a ranger can’t compete in pure dps to win against any other class.

Jana.6831:

You get the base power with soldiers. No ferocity, granted – you’d get that with valk – but you were the one crying that you would have to go full glass – soldier’s isn’t that much worse – I have 3 full zerker thieves (2 with runes of the pack, one with scholar), 2 valk/zerker (pack and hoelbrak) and 1 soldier’s/zerker (with rune of the pack) – they’re not that far apart. My main is valk/zerker with rune of the pack and it’s working fine – I can only dream about 2k+hits in a zerg (with some exceptions). Maybe thief should get more damage.

ETA: My thieves all have zerker trinkets. My ranger however is pretty much full soldier’s as far as I remember – and even he crits.

Your dps must be a l2p issue.
Dps from thieves should nerfed or their mobility + stealth reduced and that’s a fact. Actually i think all classes should have their damage balanced all across the board.

Dps comparison. Pets don’t increase much the dps because they can’t hit moving targets, like 1k or so, there is another testing chart around.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/4v76gq/qt_updated_guides_and_dps_benchmarks_for_all/

after this the facts:
Ranger is has the weakest dps in game.
Ranger lacks any form of effective AoE
When they nerfed the mobility and procs from the spirits ranger lost the support tp the team
When they nerfed the druid it lost it’s ability to reliably heal the team

So it is understandable the rangers are not wanted in wvw squads and druids aren’t well received.

I would ask to Anet to actually define the rol of the druid and the ranger in the game, because right now it’s just a mess.

• if the ranger is about positioning weapons should reward greatly that handicap. And all their skills should be designed to allow that movement or to get advantage of that strategical attack.

• If the druid is all about support and heal it should excel in that. Right now is kinda meh more than once my commanders asked for heals but my AF was depleted.

• If we are forced to have the pet system, make that system to at least work. Right now it is impossible to keep any pet alive in any group fight greater than 3. Condi span, Cc and any short of attack and they are dead. And pet dead makes a great nerf in our sustain and attack as many skills and traits are linked to them.

actually if Anet decide to revert the changes to lingering light and seeds of light the druid could have a place in a zerg as an insta healing and zerg sustain.

However right now the ranger\druid lacks damage, not only aoe, but bexause our pets dont evade, dont break stuns and dont clear conditions they simply instadie up to the look of an enemy zerg.

So it lacks damage and support. And the druids lacks some form of sustained healing for the zerg. So yeah, there should be discrimination to the ranger because it is not a class designed for anything else than 1v1.

Barry Moonfang.6897:

Zintrothen.1056:

Yes, playing a Druid will be tough this season unless the enemy team has no idea how to focus one. And with the ridiculously high CC from DH/Zerker combo, it’s hard to stay on point long enough to heal anyone.

Isn’t “Strength of the Pack!” able to mitigate some of this weakness? I haven’t played PvP this season yet though. The Stability from SotP should be able to counter warrior/DH to some extent.

Just activate SotP before engaging (or being engaged), hopefully the warrior/DH will blow their CC abilities. Keep stacking might with SotP and use “We Heal as One!” to get max might stacks + fury and start doing some real damage.

SotP is 60 Cd for 10 seconds stab\might\fury

i think for skirmish is better to equip more stunbreakers and entangle as elite. Rune of the surging or sunless have some nice synergy with that skill.

atheria.2837:

Dawdler.8521:

That’s pretty accurate for everything, although I dont really see druids zerg healing. Their utility simply sucks. An ele cleric will serve the zerg much, much better IMO. Most druid/rangers seem to go the selfish build route.

This is amazingly wrong. I have two druids, one is fully capable of being a commander, let alone being in the frontline.

And I do huge damage and not just a little healing.

Maybe if you played a druid and knew the builds you’d have a clearer idea of their utility and not dis a whole profession for no reason.

there is so much bullkitten in this quote i’m sure this dude doesn’t play wvw at all.

Druid is fine as roaming because of the mobility + heals. Not that you may kill anything but at least you don’t die… But definitely not the best.

Paavotar.3971:

How about we just make retaliation, resistance, quickness and protection not to stack duration. Make them replace the old boon IF it has longer duration than the one currently applied.

THIS simple and effective.

Jeknar.6184:

Jim Hunter.6821:

Rayya.2591:

why they allow rangers in wvw anyway ?
nobody like them
even rangers hate eachother

To kill thieves.

Pet swap for quickness unto RP+Bb F2 is glorious.

for baddies it is.

Swagger.1459:

Nobody is “fighting”. No need to be insulting.

Devs do read the forums and have info passed to them.

Yes, ranger/druid is not good in zergs, and you just went and said “3 and 4” are used occasionally. 4 is a pbaoe, and most Druids I see use 3 as a pbaoe, not aim it around… These changes make all skills on CA useful and are better suited for heal support during combat, not just the couple skills you mentioned.

You have to look at the way combat unfolds and how chaotic it is… CA falls apart in any movement based combat and there are reasons why you rarely ever see a heal specced outside of fractals and raids… Staff is okish, but CA is a design I would have left in the can.

It’s not just a problem with Druid healing either, heal support designs in this game are not good overall. Ele healing is most tolerable out of all heal capable builds, while Druid and Ventari are the most clunky and user unfriendly heal support designs I’ve ever encountered in any mmo…

yep caf4 is a pbaoe and that’s enough. CAF3 is perfect to heal the zerg and that’s because of the range, otherwise all skills would be exactly the same.

Were caf1 and caf2 fails is on the delay, not that is a clickfest (that is also annoying).
If caf1 would heal at the spot without the second delay it would work much better. Same for the caf2.

Could the skills be better designed? yes i agree, they could. But let’s be realistic, devs don’t read this forum or even their own post asking for opinions as they have proven a thousand times already. You must be new.

But if you are happy throwing away your ideas here, don’t let me interrupt you,.

Jerus.4350:

I was just discussing this with some guildies last night. The reason for the situation we agreed is only because druids are somewhat hard to find.

that can’t be right, in pve they are majority, and i know that because of the amount of PBSs i see in bloodstone fern.

It can be that players don’t like the role of simplistic buffbot but i’m pretty sure everyone has one druid for all the afk farming

Fluffball.8307:

anduriell.6280:

Yeap defintely 1200 is a must for sb and an increase in dps..

It’s not a must if they change the other skills. It’s a “anduriell wants”. We both agree SB sucks, but you want it to stay the same and just be buffed, I want it to be reworked.

ok you are right and i agree with you: it would be better if the SB could get some role so its skills get some definition.

But because im a simple person i’d contempt with simply increase the range and add more condi pressure to the weapon.

what would i like? For the shortbow to work more like a shotgun, the closer you are to the target the more useful(mind i’m saying useful not deadly) it becomes. Something that somehow applies to the poison voley.

But still the 1200 range unless it gets some crazy utilities or much better dps. We have the axe as a medium range condi weapon.

Fluffball.8307:

anduriell.6280:

You know lb range is 1500 the same as some ele skills or engi nades.

Engi nades are 900.

Regardless, my musing is based on condi being inherently more powerful in competitive than power is. Aside from the range and damage type, LB and SB have pretty comparable skills. They both have a hard CC and the both have some built in defense.

Berserker LB is just inherently weaker than dire SB because of how defensive you can go in condi gear. Even in PvP condi can be a little more defensive.

SB is barely a viable weapon right now, but I’m not sure added range is what I want to see from it. I like it as a medium range condi weapon, I’d just like to see some stronger utility or something change on it. Right now it’s just plain boring, terribly boring.

actually marauder set correct that in wvw as that set brings better stats and we can ignore armor stats as the crits don’t seem to be affected by armor.

in full dire with condi runes you could stack 6 bleeds from this attacks which could translate in 600 dps\tick. 900\tick if you go for the trait that increase bleed damage.
that plus 120 dps from the bow would make around 1k dps.

1120 DPS full dire still the LB in pure marauder would do so much better damage and have the same vitability.

LB is better weapon overall than thw SB

Lb has stealth when it works, knockback, a soft cc skill that can be used to delay and a minor ranged aoe and the burst all of it designed to work from max range.

You dont get that with SB. Also SB does a ~50% less dps and has worst range.

We have already axe at 900 wich is also hybrid as the sb and does better damage overall.

Yeap defintely 1200 is a must for sb and an increase in dps..

Fluffball.8307:

Would bleeding from the front plus 1200 range on the SB make LB obsolete in PvP/WvW though? And I do realize SB is basically made obsolete by the LB right now.

1200 range stacking bleed in dire gear sounds like fun.

You know lb range is 1500 the same as some ele skills or engi nades.

In any case if you go condi SB could be the substitute of LB as is originally was. The sb had the range of 1200 and someone at anet decided to nerf it because having two weapons one condi and other power having the same range was silly…

girls stop fighting, should i remind you Devs doesnt read this forums. Any suggestion here are ignored as ghey already proven in the past.

Yes the Druid\ranger is mostly completely trash in zergs other tjan ocasional CAF healing with CAF#3 and CAF#4.

Other than that i agree in changes in the staff.
ranged heals are good pbaoe is not. Also ranged heals is the main mechanic from pur astral form so it not an smart idea nerf that.

Definitely lingering light must go back to cast an astral wisp, as that was the viable choice for teamfights.

We need many things done in the ranger and the druid to make this class not to be used only to troll but well as i said: Anet don’t give a crap about the costumers here.

Jerus.4350:

So you want shortbow to have less potential DPS? That’s essentially what you’re suggesting. Pistol might do slightly more AE damage due to the 1 skill but Shortbow attacks faster stacking more bleeds and poison volley is best used in close melee range as all cone spreads are, just like splitblade.

As someone who mains Engi and plays a fair amount of condi Ranger, no thanks I like shortbow how it is.

i agree to soem degree, as the shortbow only needs 1200 range back and apply bleeds in crossfire withoutnthe need of flanking.

more conditions in other attacks like torment in SB#4 or confusion in SB#5 should be needed as the dps in that weapon is ridiculously low.

Also some superspeed and an actual leap in SB#3 so we can use it to evade instead the i don’t know what it that it does right now.

Swagger.1459:

I do understand, but we are talking about spvp where we capture and defend circles from players.

LB is an awful weapon for any serious spvp because you will be in pushed into melee a lot.

Your advice definitely works better in wvw, but doesn’t address the CC issues facing pvp (spvp and wvw) modes.

Don’t get upset, some ppl simply talk about other game modes although they never played it.

the nerf in druid sustain wasn’t that grave, 3 seconds in the NM GM.. The problem is every other single class got somehow buffed.

You have to think that after the nerf in the ranger and buffs in the rest of the classes we are the weak link. The free bag.

So they will gank on you or at least try. You have to show them you are not easily gankeable so they switch targets.

LB is a great suggestion. You have to think you are not a tank but now you have access to more mobility. Your priority here is survival so build with that in mind.

Probably they will try to lock you down and gank you. If you get stunned but nobody is dpsing you just wait it out, your pet is doing your work now. save the stunbreaks for when it’s really necessary.

Dont use glassy pets, my advise it smokescale and wolf because of the extra cc.

Do not get in the middle, dont wear GS. stay and range CCing and healing your party, while dpsing them with condis if possible.

Think that right now Anet put you in the free bags category. The druid is a class that is meant to play bunker as it doesn’t have any dps improvement over the ranger but Anet nerfed our tankiness (in healing and damage mitigation). So build in consequence.

yep another bullkitten QQ thread… op seriusly, devs dont read this forum, youll have better luck in reddit.

for raids druid is a buffbot. Go as you like as long as you can keep the GoL buff, spotter, spirit of frost and glyph of empowerment healthy.

Jim Hunter.6821:

Rayya.2591:

why they allow rangers in wvw anyway ?
nobody like them
even rangers hate eachother

To kill thieves.

not very effectively i might say. Well necro, ele or Trap Dh can deal with them much better, as the ranger only have RF and trust the thief is a baddie to be able to kill them.

People dont like rangers in zerg because they bring nothing. your damage is pretty low compared to other classes, your pet is useless in one medium size squad, and you lack any effective aoes as your barrage is crap.

Spec to druid and CC, put some healing in there, around 400-500 for the pretending, and keep playing the class as you are doing now. No need for the spotter thing.

You will be accepted (not desired as the tempest still is better constant heal). And if you know how to use the astral thing you may even help to save the commander’s butt from time to time.

• condi mesmers: the confusion buff was insane, too much passive condi application, the mesmer only needs to do nothing.

• perma-stealth thieves. Every single class in this game needs a trait or skill that can counter that in a effective manner (aoes, reveal, hard CCs). I still cant get whay there is a mechanic that allow someone to burst you dead while staying invisible.

• perma defy-the-pain warriors: the last buff just made that class silly. It’s 10 seconds inmmunity while they deal a ton of damage and after that they will use the shield and blocks that allow them to heal a ton with the signet.

• ultra bunker druids. Druids needs more viable builds than go for the classic bunker “let the pet do my job”.

SpellOfIniquity.1780:

It was supposed to be a constructive thread but knowing this community, I shouldn’t have expected anything other than complaints. QQ away I guess.

when the pvp aspect of this game is more or less balanced then you will have what you asked for. Until then is completely normal for the people to point out thw faults in the system.

The Game Slayer.7632:

Matt Stacey.7415:

Everyone welcome the newest troll to the ranger forums

Druids are over-performing a little bit. Everyone and their mom has one in wvw for roaming.

that’s false. the ones are exponientally growing like a plage are the cancerous permanent stealth daredevil builds. You can see too many now of those.

Pets should be independient from the ranger stats. They need buffs like sharing the boons and the cleanses from the ranger.

Because that’s the reason our pets dont last a second in wvw. They dont have access to our cleanses, they dont have access to our evades and if you dont go bunker they dont have access to our boons.

pet whould behave like this baseline:

• when the ranger evade the pet get evade frames.
• when the ranger use a cleanse the pet cleanse the same ammount of conditions as the ranger
• When the ranger gets boons those has to be transfer to the pet.

Because not being able i any way to cleanse the conditions or break their stuns is what keep them dead all the friking game

Is the buff enough or still is an mostly useless and underwhelming weapon? (With the exception of some support build no one actually use)

Link your full build and traits, effects and as much info as possible. It does not happen to me in wvw

And here we have the weekly nerf post.

It’s funny he ask for the Druids to use SB when in my experience that weapon is a destroyer of necros (and only necros).

In any case what he is saying is somehow what I pointed out: players don’t like be killed by an NPC driven completely by an AI.

I agree Rangers/Druid weapons should get a buff of plus 20% in all damage (base , condition and scaling) in all weapons. In exchange pets AI driven attacks are nerfed in a 66% so they do a dps similar to our actual staff. And f3 change to the utility attack the pet has, so we can control the canines knockdown or the moas healing screech. And all the pets get to hit the target relialibly (increase speed, increase range of melee attacks, increase protective speed)

because of the flowrish of the condi\ CC spam fest we are still locked into:

• BM line for shouts + rune of the soldier.
• WS and survival skills.

Any other real options for wvw i missed?

OGDeadHead.8326:

alain.1659:

Yes! And thanks for the beautiful auto attack button and the cool healing skill slot

?

What did I miss???

havent you seen it? you have the functionality to autoattack! And one slot for the healing skill!!

i really love the ability to be able to choose the pet you want. Thank you Anet for given me the optiom to cjoose my pet in a pet deppendient class!! \s

i cant understand what has to do budgets with balance changes.

The big chunk of the budget (understood as number of employees) is always needed for expanding the content, creating new assets and how Anet call it ‘new technologies’ which it isnt more than a programmer that make a new library to get new functionality.

that needs time and resources.

Having a couple of dudes just playing with skills stats (duration, cd, dmg…) shouldnt need much cash. With this i want to express that there is no excuse for a game badly balanced.

Even if the dude just hardcoded all the numbers there is no reason a couple of dudes couldnt actually balance the game right.

while the spirits are rooted in place they will be completely useless in any scenerario.

maybe raids, but water definitely is not one of the chosen.

Justine.6351:

I use it on condi longbow and use sigil of geomancy to proc the seeds. Its nice vs thieves.

does sigil of geomancy proc the seeds? the sigil just proc bleeds which i dont think count as direct damage. Doesnt the seeds need to proc to deal direct damage?

Tragic Positive.9356:

Actually,
It’s a nice place to vent. That’s about it. If you come and vent here, you are less likely to actually stop playing the game lowering their future income. It’s technically genius, isn’t —-it?

it is proven by studies that a venting mechanism works half way and the secondary effects are worse if the problem is not solved.

Bast Bow.2958:

Tragic Positive.9356:

I have to agree with @Kilrik here.

The most efficient build we got was nerfed, while stuff that no one used and probably no one will for e-sports were buffed.
We were nerfed in the actual picture.

I was talking about the statement Anduriell did we only got nerves. We did not only have nerves.
Since when can we say we only got nerves if only our personal or best builds got affected by all the tweaks anet did? Since when is that? So if there would be 10 buffs and 1 nerf, and my personal build only got affected by that 1 nerf, I can QQ in the official forums the ranger only got nerfs? If you could please explain that to me?

Furthermore, what all you bitter and salty ones think you will actually achieve by QQ-ing so much while there are also things that have improved? What has been improved in the last few months? A lot, I would say. And yes I also agree there are still things that can be improved.
You really think a dev-team would start listening to such a salty and bitter environment? The negativity towards the devs really amazes me. Would there be other ways to say what you think, like say in a constructive meaning or something, to point out what you think about the buffs and nerves? Or is this complete utter jibberish?

Dude I don’t know if you are genuinely obtuse or just pretending however I only have to say that this patch didn’t nerf my build but actually got the only buff we got. For your info I play with SB so I let you imagine your own movies now.

The point the rest of the people in this forum is trying to explain to you is what Alain explained so perfectly : We were waiting for a good meal but only got a nice and cool shirt. Shirt is cool but it is not what we need”

We do not need pets skills cd reduction, because it won’t do kitten if the pet can’t hit moving targets.

We need some absurd nonsensical nerfs reverted (seeds of life, range in S&R, Daze in Lunar Impact, range in SB, unbound spirits trait),, some improvements in existing mechanics (second profession Fx to have control over another pet skill, readjust effects in some traits that kept mechanics from the first beta, better control in sword#2 and GS#3) and some rework/redefinition in a lot of useless traits, trait lines and skills.

Me as a developer I could understand if they couldnt deliver that in this timeframe, but come on: what’s wrong to give back the 1200 range to the SB? To cleanse 2 conditions with SoL? To have a range of 1200 in S&R (people should remember it is not an instaress like other profession do)

The lack of any intention to apply anything the players asked for in the red post is what actually make me really annoyed. And blind white knights also.

Tragic Positive.9356:

I have to agree with @Kilrik here.

The most efficient build we got was nerfed, while stuff that no one used and probably no one will for e-sports were buffed.
We were nerfed in the actual picture.

I began to think I was the only one seeing that guys.

We have being nerfed, not as bad as in other patches but still. Understandable as there is actually nothing left to nerf.

I love the text wall in patch notes thou… A lot of crap about cd reductions in pet skills they can do in a couple of seconds just to look like they buffed something.

Next patch: we have listen the community!! ranger / Druid class will become an exclusive NPC profession from this patch. Actual Rangers players will be still be able to log in with that toon in an spectator mode and watch your character do its favorite things! Like feed the pet! Emotes! Walking around In lions arch!

Seriously thou, our dps is at the bottom of the barrel, other classes except ele got mostly buffs (warrior and guardian got dps and sustain buff, thief a dps buff, Mesmer a sustain buff…)

And although our nerfs have been mild because,again like the introduction of HoT, other classes got buffs, our nerfs are even more grave.

Oh come on guys, such a short patients you have… It’s only being 4 years!!! The earth took longer to form and nobody complained you see

Crapgame.6519:

I’ve used it in WvW – has its moments. Not sure it is a buff though. Well, glass half full / empty I guess. Any reduction in cool down is nice but that adjustment to protection

Sad panda.

Yep actually Anet just almost destroyed the bunker build. Not that really matters as there is not other choice when playing wvw, so we are in the conundrum of the bristle nerf. The pet is trash compared to the one before, but we still use it because is the only viable choice.

StickerHappy.8052:

USELESS THREAD

The biggest ranger feedback/rework thread only served 1 trait change which was enlargement.

I do not know bout you guys but I give up on the devs. So much potential of the game lost like falling sand, As fast as I pick it up, It runs away through my clutching hands.

Call me Elitist or Over Expecting, I do not care. All the changes in the notes can be done in 1 month. and yet we wait 4 months for it.

Sorry guys, we tried.

In this cases i hate to be right but i told you so. It is not the first time we do this, it takes nowhere.
Enlargement is a bugfix not a change. A passive trait should not mess with your gameplay or we could be the only pringaos that had that premium experience

they moslty applied nerfs again.

Archon.6480:

No legendary for you!

All joking aside, nice job with the thread. It seems the Devs were more concerned with too much survivability in PvP across the board. I think that was their target. Maybe next time we’ll get some of these. All is not lost!

FYI: The hunters call update was taken from one of these threads way back when. That exact feature was asked for.

you must be new here, however the sustain wasn’t compromised in any other class.

• ele heal less but more often.
• mesmer got a lot of new procs like protection.
• warrior can accumulate invulnerability.
• revenant will copy its conditions to enemies.
• thief will steal more boons.

• And all those classes got a DPS increase in some area except the ele.

• The ranger got nerf i sustain and DPS.

Jim Hunter.6821:

Razor.9872:

Jim Hunter.6821:

Razor.9872:

I believe it is working as intended. Allowing it to spike in functionality with piercing attacks or aoe attacks would be too much imo.

Wut…..

Applying aoe bleed with this skill would be too much. It is fine as-is.

You realize it’s only 6 bleeds right? It’s definitely not “fine as-is”, it’s still not worth the utility slot it takes up. Even on a crit bleed build I’m better off using QZ to apply extra bleeds because QZ has the versatility of being a stun break and a good escape tool.

This is why I suggested a while back that it needed something useful added to it, like making us unblockable for 5 seconds to counter all the projectile hate added to the game with HoT.

Excepting mediocre buffs like this as being “fine” in the same patch that gives us another bunch of nerfs is a big part of why rangers are in such a sad state. I’d love to be able to have a reasonable discussion with the dev’s but history has shown us that the only way to get through to anet is to make a big kittening deal out of their neglect, or have a popular streamer showcase what a kitten job they are doing.

Agreed. I dont know what is the idea of this dudes at anet but if they expect us to clap our ears of happiness because now we can save our pets names after 4 years instead at least balanced the things we are asking for… Well.

Just saying, but i think they are trying to check if we have the balls to say enough.

just pointing out:

• guardian got buffs everywhere.
• warrior got buffs to promote more braindead class mechanics.
• thief got buffs for the same reason.
• mesmer got buffs.
• revenant got buffs.

• ele being the top Dps got nerfs. Not really that big nerf only around 10% dps loss. Still top DPS like will always be. Buffs in healing and sustain.

• Ranger got nerfs. nerfs again and again.

Problem: while this nerfs hasn’t being like the hammer we are used to, still the other classes are buffed while the ranger is not. Which will make this class more and more useless, as we can see the druid is begining to be ignored in raids for the healing and now it’s just a buffbot (GoL, Frost, Spotter).

At least consider to apply this changes sonner than later, they are just number tweaking or bring back lost functionality and stop messing around with pet cds. Not that we don’t need more bit those should be easy enough to bring back or implement.

• Shortbow range back to 1200
• Shortbow’s crossfire apply bleed.
• Spirits unbound to bring the spirits back.
• revert the nerf to Seeds of life, to cleanse 2 condis.
• Revert the nerf to the range of S&R back to 1200. CD is fine.
• Revert the nerf to MoC.
• Revert the nerf to Lunar Impact daze duration. Cd is fine.
• Revert nerf in Axe richochet.

And stop messing around. Pets need another keybind to let the player have more control over the thing and being able to hit moving targets without the need to have quickness on them.

Ranger or Druid do not need a nerf in sustain without having first look upon damage output. This class is in the kitten bottom of the barrel and there is already a lot of documentation about it.

Stop making this class the perfect choice for farming bots and afkers and guys that want an ez afk mode for PvE.

Zenith.7301:

Archon.6480:

Zenith.7301:

Archon.6480:

Zenith.7301:

Archon.6480:

Zenith.7301:

I also don’t know what he means by burst, rangers have none of it outside rapidfire lol.

Max out might on you and your pet, swing away with sword, hit f2 on bb.

That’s not remotely burst. BB’s a godkitten long channel with obvious telegraph in a a meta full of reflects.

I consider burst windows to be no longer than 3 seconds and to be from skills that are hard to respond to.

BB’s channel finishes in the time it takes to complete a dodge roll. Same with smoke assualt.

Not really lol.

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Smoke_Assault

2 seconds.

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Spike_Barrage

2 seconds.

Where do you people pull this bullcrap from?

You are confusing cast time with channel time. What I said is true, you can completely dodge both of those skills.

These are channeled damage abilities! They don’t do the entirety of their damage until the channel is complete.

A single dodge won’t take up even half of the time this channel goes through.

zenit seriusly, play with the ranger.

both of those you can evade them with one dodge, beimg the smockeassault more difficult that the spike barrage.

That’s because rangers play with the trait from BM so those skills chanel for half.

in any case even with normal speed with one dodge you can take almost all the damage out, as the dodge last almost one second and those skills has 1 second something of damage chanelling, making those burst completely useles.

Other skills with longer evades would make even easier to nullify the damage.

yeh we got 10 secs reduction in QZ with the last small patch. It was needed, now the skill is more responsive if traited (6 secs quickness in 40 secs CD)

Still not really that great, spiders are still really underwhelming (rest of pets im afraid to test them)

This is a ranger subforum for threads related to ranger proffesion, not a general questions one.
Try here, i’m pretty sure you’ll have more luck: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/players

OMNIBUS.2913:

Ty Ty ty for finally doing this. The first thing I’m doing when I log in is naming all my pets!

Like kitten seriously? Did you necro kitten post a post from 2 years ago?

OGDeadHead.8326:

anduriell.6280:

Guys read the texts:

nerfed

Axe AA

Have yet to decide if I agree on this one…

Don’t take too long. Basically you are missing the return hit if there were 2 targets and that 40% extra will not make for it. Also you will get less might stacks when there are 2 targets or more.

Basically: when there is one target you will it 40% dmg. As soon as there are 2 you’ll be nerfed one full hit (40%40% <> 100%) and more importantly you will miss that extra might stack you benefit not only in power but in condi damage (axe 2 and axe 3)

Guys read the texts:

nerfed

Axe AA
Protective ward
Beastly warden
Shout Guard!

Practically they nerfed the ranger sustain. I guess they are not happy about Druid being a healer or something?

Justine.6351:

You have never roamed against an excellent shatter Mesmer, ever.

the thing is shatter is a one trick pony, it should only get you once.
Once you know how it works is like our ranger builds, that are easily countered. It is true of you got inside a shatter you are dead.

I find much more problematic a condi Mesmer with all that confusion that reach levels of the absurdity. That’s why power shatter is not that used and bunker condi chrono is the cancer cheesy build for mesmers.

I have to say: Thank you Irenio and Joel. This will be the joy of all the PvErs all around. Honestly this are good news

However forgive me if I’m a little bit salty because I hoped some more work on rangers archaic skills and some nonsensical nerfs.

In any case, even with all this salt we are secretly happy about that improvement.

Yep extremely dissapointing.
I don’t know if they really adressed the main problem with core pets: that can’t hit moving targets. While that isn’t addressed no amount of cd reduction will fix the pets.

Overall we received a lot of nerfs and bug fixes and none of the buffs or balances here the players asked for.

Really I don’t understand why the red post if later they don’t give a kitten.

alain.1659:

Ranger needs proper signet rework. There are millions of beautiful and cool things that can be done with signets and the trait related to them.

i was actually thinking about this, the actual trait is really really meh.

what about:

• Signets active CD reworked. 60 secs for one stunbreak and cleanse will probably kill your pet is not good enough.
• All signets actives and passives only affects the ranger and its pet. Thus SoR will only break stun and transfer the condis from the ranger to the pet. Thus a CD reduction also would be welcome.

• GM will make signet passives to affect up to 5 allies around the ranger.
• this GM could be moved to NM in place of invigorating bond.