Guild Wars 2

yeah, take your pick, variety vs balanced….

i always pick balanced match up, unless ANET introduce map cap reduction, only then they can reintroduce the “variety” match ups….

in the current state of WvW, variety means stomping or get stomped…..

2 situations will make nodes change location :

1. the map becomes empty, no one was on the map. when this happen, the nodes on the map reset its location to random new ones. always happen in low populated servers, and southsun cove.

2. the game has new patch.

due to factor number 1, i always look for nodes on bg/jq…

not sure about Dhuum, but i hope Palawa Joko and his Undead minions will make it to GW2…

lol, OP, whatever other players do in the Crab Toss arena, it is working as intended.

what do you expect ? free and easy win ?

yup, i’m spoiled too.

can’t go back to trinity.

can’t go back to the game where you have to stand still to cast skill either.

can’t go back to the game with traditional questing system.

i’m doomed.

yup.nerfed to only 7 levels. it was 10 levels previously.

so basically just an average of 10g an hour ?

you can make more that that by farming mats….

perverted asura !

upgrades are not lost. they stay on the server you left. GW2 has a weird system where the guild influence and upgrades are not accessible to members across servers.

if you transfer from a server, you have to rebuild all the upgrades on the new server. if you want the previous full upgrades on a server, you have to re-transfer to that server with that upgrades.

hopefully some times in the near future ANET will implement a system where guild upgrades are accessible across servers.

roll a warrior/guardian/necro…

they are OP in zerg fight….

voice comm over lay. don’t what to say if anet really ban the usage.

aye…? wrong section ?

use flawless snowflakes to create inscription for 6 type of exo, and then use t6 totem to create inscriptions for another 6 type of exo.

Arikyali.5804:

Crafting…not profitable….?

Okay, I guess you won’t be making mountains of gold with it, but you can still make some decent coin. Even if you don’t make money off of it, you can still save money by making all your own stuff.

….Especially since I managed to make 20g-40g this week from crafting alone >.>;

i make 30g a day selling material to people who crafts…..

balance MU > random MU anytime

balance MU > random MU

once you’re able to bring 7 heroes, it turns to a single player experience….

pay to win is when an item bought using cash shop currency only (gems in the case of GW2) give advantage to the purchaser when two player fight each other. name one item in Gem Store that give a player an advantage over other player when they fight other player who doesn’t use it.

converting gems to gold is not pay to win because gold is also obtainable in game. it is a convenience, because one can achieve his target faster than those who grind gold, still he doesn’t win against anything, since there is no race on who achieve fastest to begin with.

LordByron.8369:

azizul.8469:

LordByron.8369:

Guhracie.3419:

LordByron.8369:

Guhracie.3419:

Becka Williams.4978:

Guhracie.3419:

laokoko.7403:

An Siorai Tharian.4516:

Until you realize that you still need to do the time gated stuff to level up your crafting skills high enough to actually make the ascended equipment in the first place. Whether or not you can purchase the time gated mats off of the trading post you still have to get a crafting skill to a high enough level to actually make the ascended gear. And since the Ascended Gear is bound to you, you can’t simply have someone else craft it for you.

I’m pretty sure I can get to 500 crafting in a few hours if I have money. And if I dont’ it’ll take alot more than a few hours.

You still need to do “something” yourself, but with money it is much easier right?

Note: With MONEY. Gold. Easily accessible in-game.

Then WHY is it time gated? Please explain that.

First you’ll have to explain why the time-gating means the game is pay to win. Then we’ll see if I have enough context to provide an answer.

lets try:
one day
player A pays real money and get ascended weapons
Player B instead has to wait and craft it slowly in 1 month.

For 1 month player A is having advantage.

a month pass, player A and B are supposed to be on equal ground..
But Anet release Ascended armors taking 3 months

Player A buys them
Player B Waits some months.

Another 3 month of advantage of player A….
What will happen in 3 months? infusions….

This is the reason behind the trendmill we are seeying and the added grinding.

Now lets add that in NO WAY (with the ONLY small exception of market flipping) you can gain enough gold to be on par with player A.

Considering a reasonable amount of daily play….(i farm most dungeons daily………i still have to finish ascended weapons).

you will have to grind all our time and still won t be able to be on par….also we won t really “play the game”.

Player A cannot buy ascended. Your argument is invalid.

Player A can buy all GATED mats but few to get ascended

As said 2 days of farming against 36 per armorsets are P2W..

I d call your argument pointless.

Paying to have an unfair advantage is still P2W…bypassing 36 days of timegating and having to farm only 2 days (dragonite and the remaining T7).

You can do easily 5-700 dragonite per day…and most players have so much empyreal and bloodstones to trash it.

so basically finishing ascended faster is considered Pay-to-Win ? win against what ? there is no contest or competition who would finish their ascended first as far as i know, or am i missing any ?

Win against other players that won t be able to play fractal 50 for months
Win against players that will forever be one tier behind because as they slowly get on par, a new “tier” (infusion or whatever) get released….
Win of players who can “play the way they want” against other forced to “prepare to have fun” that they will never be able because they will run after “vertical progression”.

If the system was fair we would see time gating MANDATORY……

so basically there is a competition of who would get to fractal 50 fastest ?

LordByron.8369:

Guhracie.3419:

LordByron.8369:

Guhracie.3419:

Becka Williams.4978:

Guhracie.3419:

laokoko.7403:

An Siorai Tharian.4516:

Until you realize that you still need to do the time gated stuff to level up your crafting skills high enough to actually make the ascended equipment in the first place. Whether or not you can purchase the time gated mats off of the trading post you still have to get a crafting skill to a high enough level to actually make the ascended gear. And since the Ascended Gear is bound to you, you can’t simply have someone else craft it for you.

I’m pretty sure I can get to 500 crafting in a few hours if I have money. And if I dont’ it’ll take alot more than a few hours.

You still need to do “something” yourself, but with money it is much easier right?

Note: With MONEY. Gold. Easily accessible in-game.

Then WHY is it time gated? Please explain that.

First you’ll have to explain why the time-gating means the game is pay to win. Then we’ll see if I have enough context to provide an answer.

lets try:
one day
player A pays real money and get ascended weapons
Player B instead has to wait and craft it slowly in 1 month.

For 1 month player A is having advantage.

a month pass, player A and B are supposed to be on equal ground..
But Anet release Ascended armors taking 3 months

Player A buys them
Player B Waits some months.

Another 3 month of advantage of player A….
What will happen in 3 months? infusions….

This is the reason behind the trendmill we are seeying and the added grinding.

Now lets add that in NO WAY (with the ONLY small exception of market flipping) you can gain enough gold to be on par with player A.

Considering a reasonable amount of daily play….(i farm most dungeons daily………i still have to finish ascended weapons).

you will have to grind all our time and still won t be able to be on par….also we won t really “play the game”.

Player A cannot buy ascended. Your argument is invalid.

Player A can buy all GATED mats but few to get ascended

As said 2 days of farming against 36 per armorsets are P2W..

I d call your argument pointless.

Paying to have an unfair advantage is still P2W…bypassing 36 days of timegating and having to farm only 2 days (dragonite and the remaining T7).

You can do easily 5-700 dragonite per day…and most players have so much empyreal and bloodstones to trash it.

so basically finishing ascended faster is considered Pay-to-Win ? win against what ? there is no contest or competition who would finish their ascended first as far as i know, or am i missing any ?

and fyi, i never paid a single cents apart from the GW2 box, and i already got my Bolt and Kudzu. Pay-to-Win ?

err.. you can buy ascended weapon/armor ? i don’t think you could.

if you want to give example, pls be factual.

ok lets change the ascended to Legendaries.

player A buys gem, convert to gold, and purchase the Legendary.
player B work his sweat day and night farming everything and make his Legendary.

how does that make player A win against player B. win in terms of what ? both have their Legendary in the end.

LordByron.8369:

Ensio.8172:

Freeelancer.2860:

There are two definitions of p2w in this thread and that’s where the whole difference in opinion comes from

There is only one proper (as in, general) definition of “P2W”, and as has been shown again and again in this thread it does not apply to GW2.

The rest are attempts by people to twist the meaning to serve their purposes, basically calling the devs greedy when in fact, the business model of GW2 proves the complete opposite.

to tell the truth the common definition of P2W from internet suits 100% this game…

Then people started giving their personal view to deny it ……..but frankly we still need ANY link from a reliable source to give credit to their personal view…..

perhaps you can explain your version of the common definition of P2W that you think 100% suits this game, and give example pls.

searing flame – do damage to burnt foes. if foes are not burnt, they are set on fire.

laokoko.7403:

An Siorai Tharian.4516:

Until you realize that you still need to do the time gated stuff to level up your crafting skills high enough to actually make the ascended equipment in the first place. Whether or not you can purchase the time gated mats off of the trading post you still have to get a crafting skill to a high enough level to actually make the ascended gear. And since the Ascended Gear is bound to you, you can’t simply have someone else craft it for you.

I’m pretty sure I can get to 500 crafting in a few hours if I have money. And if I dont’ it’ll take alot more than a few hours.

You still need to do “something” yourself, but with money it is much easier right?

so what if i pay to get to 500 crafting within 1 minute. pay-to-win ? against what ? as far as i know there is no competition or contest who would get to lvl 500 crafting fastest….

people really need to understand the meaning of pay-to-win . ask yourself again, pay to win against what…. ? then you know whether the game is pay-to-win or not…

if the game start selling a crit potion usable in PvP, then it is a pay-to-win….

OP is actually referrring to Pay-to-Win beauty contest….

i don’t remember GW1 has any crafting in it and it was fun without it… weapon and upgrades you got are from drops.

Stooperdale.3560:

“oh i forgot to add that you can also get +10AR from weapon, making it total 70AR..”

That’s if you decide to under perform in fractals and use only one weapon. If you use all the weapons at your disposal it becomes an expensive way to get AR.

i do not understand what you mean. you can slot in +10AR into 2-handed weapon ( +5AR and another +5AR), or you can put +5AR each into main/off-hand, still giving you +10AR . what is so expensive about that ? just use the infusion you get from the fractal vendor, only cost 75 token….

anyway, that 70AR is if you’re using non-infused rings and backpack. if you use infused rings and backpack, add another +15AR to that, making it 85AR….. underperform in fractal 50?

actually it was from 20s to 9g….

thank god no more new patch until 21st Jan.

yeah this is exactly what i want, lesser frequency of LS… at least i can take current one slowly…

ANET, make this new frequency (1-month instead of 2-week) permanent pls…..

they are all just the red named (enemies) with different tags, no matter who you fight …

variety ? just a feeling…..

i don’t view it as punishment for late comer to the game, in fact it gives them a way to make more gold by creating demand for the wood logs.

Zaxares.5419:

azizul.8469:

why would anyone bother to make +6 ?

+5 each is not enough on 1 piece of back pack, 5 pieces of accessories and 6 pieces of armor ?

that’s already 60AR… not enough to beat 50 agony level in the lvl 50 fractal ?

You need 70 AR to not take any damage from Agony at level 50, I believe. But the main reason people are going higher is likely in preparation for Fractals level cap getting lifted in the future.

oh i forgot to add that you can also get +10AR from weapon, making it total 70AR..

but, well, if you talk about people preparing for the lift of fractal cap, then yes, i can understand…. but the cost is pretty scary to me….

why would anyone bother to make +6 ?

+5 each is not enough on 1 piece of back pack, 5 pieces of accessories and 6 pieces of armor ?

that’s already 60AR… not enough to beat 50 agony level in the lvl 50 fractal ?

play Runes of Magic and you’ll see what pay-to-win means…….

when identifying whether a game is pay2win, we need to actually understand the meaning of pay2win.

first of all the wordings itself, pay to win. win against what ? the common sense is that when we talk about pay to win, it is usually win against other player, i.e. in pvp, in GW2 case sPvP or WvW.

now, name an item in the game that you can buy from the gemstore, and not available in-game, that give you an advantage over other player if you have it in pvp. i don’t think i can name any, therefore GW2 is not a pay2win game.

if you pay-to-win beauty contest.. well that surely is… lol

okay off topic :

i always wonder why would anyone really bother to make +10AR infusion considering the price, since +5 on each ascended gear (accessories, armor,weapon) can already give you total at least 80AR and the highest fractal agony rating at the moment is 50 i believe….

on topic :

yeah the extractor price is very expensive in terms of gold conversion…..

Volt-Tron ops !

i like Guild Wars 2 simply because it is a Guild Wars franchise, it is casual, good business model, and they introduce new style of MMO. if i wanted to play game with trinity i would have gone back to LOTRO. they have good business model too.

however, there are features of other games that i would like to see in the game that could improve our experience. for example guild hall, guild management tool, proper auction house (not simply trading post), better monster fighting mechanics etc.

yeah…. i have this issue too.. pls ANET fix this…..

i doubt ANET currently working on any update for GM just yet.

what you could do is work with larger guild to unlock you guild missions. it works wonderfully.

oh hi there chieftain “the superb” snuffy.

i sent you pm.

by the way our next GM is on :

Date : Friday 20/12/2013
Time : 11pm (Kuala Lumpur Time, GMT+8)
Missions : Rush, Challenge, Puzzle. We do Bounty with our friend guild House of Bookah on the next day, Saturday.

EDIT :

added picture after another successful Guild Mission, this time with [HoB] from BG and [OTD] from FC

for you to unlock guild missions, you have to have guild influence and guild merit, and the unlocking are by stage. what this mean is that those guild missions are not unlocked concurrently, they are unlocked one after another. for better explanation read this : http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Guild_mission

people do guild mission usually to get the guild commendation, although some are doing if for the sake of enjoying game content. if your guild just started building those upgrades, try working with a larger guild who already have the guild missions unlocked and join their event to get those commendation, and try to get them to join your guild misison as you slowly unlock them.

for example : my guild has already unlocked all the guild missions, and currently in collaboration with another guild in terms of doing guild missions. since they already have their guild bounty and guild track unlocked what we usually do is do their guild bounty and track to help them gain merit to unlock more guild missions for their guild, and then do our guild rush, challenge and puzzle with them so that they can get the commendations too. this may or may not involve cross-guild membership.

my guild merit is currently overflowing every time we complete the guild mission, it would be good if we can convert them into some sort of consumable so that we can donate merit to another guild.

what are these thread of lesser this lesser that etc ? uh….

if you don’t like karma train, just roam with your buddies….

i feel you…. CD has undergone 5 meltdown…. not many WvW focused guild left… people gave up too easily….

OP, can i have what you’re smoking ?

just beg them to claim a supply camp.. lol

Jayne.9251:

SpellOfIniquity.1780:

MiLkZz.4789:

Prysin.8542:

well, now that it has been made public, with evidence, it should be patched. This is blatantly an abuse of the game design.

No it ain’t, there are destructible walls at that side only reachable through that rout. So it ain’t a bug, it is a feature.

Speaking of not so obvious things you can destroy, the bridge in Durios can be destroyed. Although I have no idea what advantage that would provide since it’s behind the lord.

Isn’t that where the mortar spawns?

i would think so , just like the Lake tower (southeast of borderlands)

err.. nope……….

most people I know who didn’t click with GW2 are mostly people who :
1. likes traditional MMO with trinity and cluttering UI.
2. are FPS lover.
3. expects expansion even though GW2 give them free DLC fortnightly.
4. don’t stay with a game for too long. they move from one game to another very fast.

i don’t think it’s an exploit…

working as intended, to get people to spend their money….