Guild Wars 2

Donari.5237:

I treasure the time I was escorting a Sylvari Warden NPC, I don’t recall if it was in a PS or in the world. He was acting all noble and valiant. Then he shouted “You asked for this!” and charged at right angles off the path to attack a non-aggro boar.

I guess he hates swine.

Lol…that’s hilarious

Sakri.7234:

bhagwad.4281:

Off topic, but you don’t use signet of rage etc on Tyre? Otherwise it would be more than 30 secs…

I use full zerker warrior 30-30-0-10-0 with gs and axe/mace, and Healing Signet, For Great Justice, Signet of Might, Shake it Off and Signet of Rage. I use Signet of Rage in only every other match. I charge in with gs 5, use gs 2, then switch to axe/mace, and hit mace 4, mace 5 and finish with axe autoattack. Sometimes I get downed but I can finish him from there. I also use prec/critdmg food. Shake it Off I use to remove crippled after match to get out of combat and heal. Gambits are crippled, burning and no dodge. I make about 20g per hour if no one interferes with my farming.

Ah. I was trying to squeeze frailty in as well . Risky…

Sakri.7234:

This is the first time in GW2 that other players are a hindrance in the game. When I farm Tyre Ragemaw with 30 sec rotation with my warrior, even one other player at the same arena ruins the farm. Anet should have made queen’s gauntlet a personal instance. I have loved it in this game that other players have not hampered my gameplay but this time Anet failed in their goal to avoid that. I hope they learn from this. I don’t like hating it when I see other players.

Off topic, but you don’t use signet of rage etc on Tyre? Otherwise it would be more than 30 secs…

The Boz.2038:

Not really dialogue, but I love it when my character exclaims “Ah, refreshing!” after taking a huge hammer to the face (which triggers regeneration). I bet the mobs fecaliate their pants at that moment. “I… dude… I just smacked her with this huge hammer, sqare in the face, and she said it was refreshing! Bother this nonsense, I quit!”

“Fecaliate” – I thought this was a new word till I checked Google and it wasn’t. Still…it should be one!

Manoa.5897:

TheOneNOnlyGeneralBama.9586:

Now you understand why i don’t like rezzing people who die , i jump in and start farming Dunwell 15 seconds later 3-4 guys pop up and start loitering , more times than not they queue …and it takes them days to die or (rarely) kill the boss chosen.

Queen’s Gauntlet…totally bringing out the best qualities in the GW2 community.

It’s probably inevitable. When it started out people were much nicer and more polite. But when you design the game in such a way that helping others hinders your own goals, it’s hardly surprising that people don’t cooperate.

Sakri.7234:

This is the first time in GW2 that other players are a hindrance in the game. When I farm Tyre Ragemaw with 30 sec rotation with my warrior, even one other player at the same arena ruins the farm. Anet should have made queen’s gauntlet a personal instance. I have loved it in this game that other players have not hampered my gameplay but this time Anet failed in their goal to avoid that. I hope they learn from this. I don’t like hating it when I see other players.

I hear you and face the same problem with Ragemaw. Here’s a douchy solution. Just enter the arena and wait for your skills to recharge. He won’t attack till you do.

Sometimes a player or an NPC will shout something out that I can’t understand and just make up whatever it sounds like. For example, when an ele switches her attunement she sometimes shouts:

“Feel Grenth’s Icy Embrace!”. Which I hear as:

“Feel the Brits Icy Embrace!”

Or a Sylvari will pronounce:

“This Rose has Thorns. Here they Are!” Which I always heard as (idiotically and ungrammatically)

“This Rows has Thorns. Here They Are!”

Any such examples from your own experience?

Agreed. For the past few days I’ve given up dungeon runs, boss events, and even dailies to farm the gauntlet since it gives orders of magnitude more gold than any other activity in the game. I thought I’d do my daily today and the usually full Fire Elemental boss event was almost empty. He normally goes down in less than 30 seconds, but today it was different.

I’m willing to bet everyone’s at the crown pavilion farming. Not a good thing at all.

Manoa.5897:

CETheLucid.3964:

Yeah, and the snowflake exploit wasn’t an exploit either.

Don’t forget the karma weapons exploit that totally wasn’t an exploit. It was totally the devs’ fault for putting it in the game like that! Those who took advantage were totally just playing it as the devs implemented! (yeah right)

The low price of karma weapons at that time was clearly an oversight. I’m yet to see any indication that the developers have made some mistake here despite having patched the gauntlet twice.

CETheLucid.3964:

Yeah, and the snowflake exploit wasn’t an exploit either.

Hyper inflation due to being ‘forced to farm because it’s so profitable halp me i cant stop’ isn’t going to destroy the economy or be looked at as a malicious attempt to that end.

Neeeevaaaar.

You’re saying that Anet doesn’t intend for people to farm the event like this right? Despite putting in obscene rewards, no downtime between matches, and no diminishing returns.

Just out of curiosity, what exactly do you think their intentions are? I’m just following the game it’s meant to be played. By Anet. Why they made such choices is beyond me.

Also I assure you I have no interest in crashing the economy “malicious” or otherwise. I just want to make myself rich without exploiting the game. The health of the economy is hardly my concern.

Excalibur.9748:

bhagwad.4281:

Excalibur.9748:

Really disappointed in ANET they let this drag on for too long without penalizing the exploiters and no compensation for people who didn’t attempt to exploit this.

What exploiters? There was no coding bug, no oversight in Deadeye’s mechanics, no taking advantage of bugged skills, environment or whatever. Everything was done as intended.

I think everyone automatically know what exploit means. Farming the gauntlet isn’t one.

If you’re getting gold a LOT faster with 1 particular method, it’s pretty obvious it was not intended. If you keep taking advantage of it then yea that makes you an exploiter. What you’re supposed to do is to report it to the devs and stop taking advantage of said exploit.

The oversight is how easy it is to farm gold at crown pavillion as a whole. All the bosses except for liadri is…a joke. Only liadri farming should be able to generate this amount of gold.

The devs are well aware of gauntlet farming. That’s why they nerfed Subject 7’s drops. Now while I agree that it shouldn’t be possible to make so much gold, Anet obviously disagrees with me since they merely changed Deadeye’s mechanics instead of nerfing his drops.

And now I’m farming Ragemaw. Once more making a lot of gold. Also, the forums are full of this so it’s not as if Anet needs to be told anything. All of this is intended.

I agree it shouldn’t be intended because it trivializes all other content. But it is what it is. Only Anet knows when they purposely designed it this way.

Excalibur.9748:

Really disappointed in ANET they let this drag on for too long without penalizing the exploiters and no compensation for people who didn’t attempt to exploit this.

What exploiters? There was no coding bug, no oversight in Deadeye’s mechanics, no taking advantage of bugged skills, environment or whatever. Everything was done as intended.

I think everyone automatically know what exploit means. Farming the gauntlet isn’t one.

Kain Francois.4328:

Why nerf him? In my experience, you don’t make much more money than 10g/hour, which is the average of barracuda farm and (what was) CoF P1.

Unlike the Cursed Shore Ember farm, Deadeye doesn’t interfere with normal gameplay whatsoever.

The amount people make from this farm is grossly exaggerated because you pay 20s per 5 tickets.

Those costs are already taken into consideration. Farming him once every minute with 5 gambits = 60s gross. 6 tickets cost 24s. That’s 60-24 = 36s profit per minute which is 21g per hour. Not counting the additional possible drops like lodestones.

And there are some professions who can kill him twice in one minute making a profit of 40g per hour. Without having to deal with contested servers, queuing up with others and relying entirely on your own leisure and skill.

It was broken. Everyone knew it. Even now it’s broken since some professions can still farm him with ease. Personally I’m moving onto Ragemaw at 16g profit per hour.

Let CoF try and match that!

Levetty.1279:

bhagwad.4281:

Zen.2450:

PokerTuna.6170:

You didn’t have to take your time. Your choice, not our problem.

What a flippant response.

I’m with the OP. I hate how they release content, then nerf it after seeing x-event done in a way THEY didn’t want it done, thus allowing the content locusts to get their big rewards, and the casuals who enjoy the game for the game get left out in the dark.

Whatever happened to good QC, or just the whole “play your way” philosophy? It wasn’t a bug used to farm Deadeye, just good player intelligence against predictable AI. It should have been left alone.

I farmed Deadeye as much as the next guy. But…come on. 20g an hour for no skill? Something simply had to be done.

If it was about farming then they would have nerfed the reward just like subject 7.

That’s what they should have done. But in any case, making 20g an hour trivializes all the other challenging content in the game. Why run Arah with a measly 3g at the end of an hour long run? Not to mention the perfect team you need to put together etc?

It was just waaaaay too imbalanced. Of course, now I’ve moved on to farming Ragemaw at 16g an hour. That’s still a hell of a lot more than I would get doing anything else!

Zen.2450:

PokerTuna.6170:

You didn’t have to take your time. Your choice, not our problem.

What a flippant response.

I’m with the OP. I hate how they release content, then nerf it after seeing x-event done in a way THEY didn’t want it done, thus allowing the content locusts to get their big rewards, and the casuals who enjoy the game for the game get left out in the dark.

Whatever happened to good QC, or just the whole “play your way” philosophy? It wasn’t a bug used to farm Deadeye, just good player intelligence against predictable AI. It should have been left alone.

I farmed Deadeye as much as the next guy. But…come on. 20g an hour for no skill? Something simply had to be done.

Thing is…I’ve already moved on to farming Tyre Ragemaw. I can do it easily with 4 gambits (trying for 5) once every minute giving me ~ 40s per minute with the ornate watchboxes.

Not as good as Deadeye back in the day, but still gives me 16g an hour. That’s 6 times more profitable than perfect dungeon runs with a perfect dungeon group that knows exactly what they’re doing.

Bovinity.8610:

Oh hey, this is still going.

One day our society will get over “OMG BOOBS” I hope.

I also hope that one day all you great crusaders will focus on a topic of actual merit, instead of “OMG BOOBS”.

But I know “OMG BOOBS” is an easy target. The low-hanging fruit. Easy to scandalize, easy to sensationalize, not too hard to think about, not too many details. Just find some boobs, any boobs, anywhere, point at them and freak out.

I’m looking forward to the community’s reaction when Anet brings out models with massive pricks.

Shemsu.8721:

You wouldnt. You cant reward dueling, or people will just take turns losing in order to attain rewards. Especially with the gambit system. Not to mention this has already been put in game, custom pvp servers, feel free to purchase one and set up your very own duel instance

That’s a good point. Match fixing would come into play. But custom PvP servers don’t earn you gold at all – in fact, they cost money.

Ennzo.6874:

well we have pvp anyways

I’d like to make some gold along the way too

I think the gauntlet is a great idea. But as long as we have NPC bosses at the lower tiers (I doubt anyone is farming Liadri!), players will learn the patterns and find ways to defeat them quickly for obscene amounts of gold.

So instead of that, why not have dueling between players? If you want to test skill, that is real skill. And no way you an duel an even half decent player with crippled, exhausted, frailty, burning and crowd favorite.

DeWolfe.2174:

So wait a second, I played the game all night long in WvW. Lucky if I made 1-2 gold. Yet, people are farming this and already have 800 gold???? So while the rest of us are trying to enjoy a portion of the game, Anet’s allowing the economy to suffer from hyper inflation?

…GG…

I agree. It’s pretty insane the way Anet is allowing people to get so much gold for too little work. Feel bad for those in the other parts of the game. Made around 80g in two days. So profitable. But I’d rather be doing something else and I would if the payouts from the gauntlet weren’t this good.

Thorgalkun.4753:

If I get this right, Dunwell rewards has a chance at Charged Lodestone, if its intended this will lower the price of Charged Lodestone while the first farmer basically gets the first hand at gaining the most gold out of it.
However I doubt its intended because this also affect easy access to gem meaning Anet will receive less money.
Will some players be punished for exploiting this? So far all Iv seen is attempt at fixing it, the damage is done already, if they are afraid at punishing players their MMO could quickly go downhill…

Punished for what? Farmers are making use of the intended mechanics and not exploiting some programming bug. That’s like punishing people for running CoF p1 over and over.

Shiren.9532:

This is why GW2 needs to make rewards account bound and obtained from specific content instead of making gold rule everything. All the people running dungeons for 20-90 minutes a path are competing with people who are making double digits in that time. The OP is a fool and I have no sympathy for him, but the “gold rules all” design of the game is a rot that plagues the rewards side of the game. We need more things like dungeon tokens or fractal weapons and less gold.

When gold is the only relevant currency, players feel pressured to play in the most profitable areas of the game (the OP takes this to new levels) and players who choose fun over profit are being punished for their choice. That’s wrong.

I love this idea. This will allow me to enjoy various aspects of the game and not be concerned that something else is more efficient. For example, right now I can buy my way to a legendary either by purchasing most of the crafting components, or just getting it off the TP if I’m really rich.

This makes gold acquisition the common denominator of all activities and everything is measured by that yardstick. If for example lodestones and cores etc were account bound, that would mean I can run the dungeons without bothering about whether or not it’s the most optimal thing to do. I can just have fun. But with the current system as it is today, my efficient and wealth maximizing nature simply insists that I need to get the max amount of gold.

I don’t think I’m alone in this either.

So I second the notion of a lot more account bound items. Here’s hoping!

P.S: Now that I think about it, it’s possible that Anet deliberately created the gold system to make people buy gems and hence increase their revenue source. If true, I can’t really blame them. But it is what it is…

koolmutt.9827:

Is this guy serious? I’m sorry but it seems this guy is just flooding the forums with all his troll threads.

He made a thread asking for deadeye to be nerfed, and then made a huge thread thanking anet for nerfing deadeye so he can ‘move on to other aspects of the game’.

And now he’s made a new thread asking for advice and builds on how to efficiently farm it again. I’m sorry I never personally call anyone out on the forums like this, but there’s something intrinsically wrong with this person.

It seems that there’s a genuine difficulty in understanding the motivations of farmers and people like. In good faith, I’ll try and explain:

1. I always do the most profitable thing in the game
2. I would prefer the most profitable activity to be fun
3. Hence I was complaining that farming Deadeye was boring
4. But since there are still builds allowing him to be farmed I have to do it (Refer 1)

Is this really so difficult to understand? If so, please let me know and I’ll try and explain.

Instead of that I’m being called a troll etc etc. Why?

KingClash.3186:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/livingworld/jubilee/Nerf-Deadeye-It-s-Boring-now/first#post2622495

Omg you cannot be serious you are the guy that was begging for it to be nerfed, practically crying because you wanted to stop. And here you are…

No one give this troll advice for the love sanity.

/thread

Unfortunately it still might be possible to farm him so I have to try because it’ll likely be profitable. It would have been awesome if it was impossible. But since there’s a chance I need to maximize my gold regardless of the fact that I find it boring.

I don’t understand why this concept is so incomprehensible to some.

Now that he aggros as soon as you enter, some builds need changing.

As a warrior, I need some way to quickly and safely close the gap. WW with GS seems good unless a mine gets in the way which happens annoyingly often. Sword 2 doesn’t protect against the bombs. Also there’s no time to immediately build adrenaline with heal so have to do it a bit before out of combat which makes it go down a bit.

So any ideas for new builds not just for the warrior, but for other classes as well?

I was suspicious as soon as GW2 updated. Entered with just one gambit instead of five, and sure enough deadeye now pull aggro from all around the arena. I think he also teleports more often.

Yaay! Now I can finally go back to doing more interesting stuff. At least I milked it for all it was worth. Got 80g in the past two days.

DoctorOverlord.8620:

bhagwad.4281:

Yeah. Starry night by Van Gogh really got people worked up. All that controversial content.

Picking examples as a counter argument only works when there no other examples that are actually relevant.

Warning artistic statue nudity in links (GASP think about the CHILDREN!)

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/town-sculpture-david-put-pants-article-1.1257671
http://www.kvue.com/news/Naked-Aphrodite-stirs-SAMA-ad-controversy-175709981.html

These are from about 10 seconds of Google searching. I’m sure there are plenty more examples of great works of art that have sparked controversy, in the past or today.

In this case, all I need is one example to disprove the parent’s hypothesis that (and I quote) “Good art is always controversial.”

Note the “always” part of the assertion. And see how just one counter example blows the argument to shreds.

A Massive Headache.1879:

bhagwad, you’re blaming arena net for your lack of self control, that’s why the analogy was so great, it just went over your head.

Self control? Really? Since when does being rational equate to lack of self control?

Fallout.1798:

bhagwad.4281:

MauricioCezar.2673:

Er… and why remove this farm? I mean, I’m too weak to farm this way, but I don’t see anything bad on it. A giant mass of people are farming events just below, nerf it too?

Well.. Its a event, its temporary. Let the guys do whatever they want, I don’t believe this is marked as cheat for Anet. They are simply good enough to make money out of it. If I could be good enough, I would try it too.

The thing is…I can make 12 times more profit farming Deadeye than I can running dungeons with a perfect group (which you rarely get). As a result I have done nothing but farm him for the past 2 days (before that Subject 7) since I feel I’m wasting my time anywhere else in the game. Plus for this I just need to depend on myself without having to wait for people to join up, no diminishing returns etc.

The Deadeye farm is trivializing all other content in the game. It’s fairly obvious why it’s broken and something needs to be done about it. I started yesterday with 151g. Now I have 230g, which is pretty obscene any which way you consider it.

You make it sound like you are FORCED to farm kill Deadeye, over and over again. Last I checked you are not forced against your will to do this gauntlet. And if you are not having fun farming this Deadeye gauntlet, then you might find it better to find some other way(s) to make your money, while still enjoying it.

It’s like this. Making gold than others is my primary purpose for playing to start with. Gold with which I can buy stuff to show off etc. It’s a bonus if the content is fun – and I admit I’d far rather prefer to play fun stuff rather than boring stuff assuming there’s no big difference in the amount of gold acquired.

If say farming Deadeye was just 10% more effective than running dungeons which I find fun, then there’s no question in my mind which one I would do.

But with the former being 1200% more effective than the latter…it’s a no brainer. Also given the fact that it’s time limited content in its current form means that the optimal solution is to farm it as much as possible while the gravy train lasts. As a rational person looking to maximize profit, I really don’t see another wealth maximizing solution.

Maybe trading on the TP, but it’s not a science and I don’t think it anywhere near as profitable as Deadeye.

You may say that right now there is just one dominant solution in playing the game. The only variance is how fast Deadeye can be killed. I can do him exactly once every minute with 5 gambits earning 60 silver gross or 40 silver profit every sixty seconds. I’ve heard some thief builds can kill him twice in one minute. In which case, that is the dominant solution. There is no other method in the game that gives you so much money so quickly.

Hence killing Deadeye is pretty much the only rational thing to do. But it’s definitely boring and so it’ll be nice if that option was removed so I can go back to dungeons etc. But as long as that avenue exists….it’s a no brainer isn’t it?

timgod.9456:

The thing is…I can eat 12 more meals at McDonalds in the time I could cook my own food with a perfect pantry (which rarely happens). As a result I have done nothing but eat McDonalds for the past 2 days (before that Wendy’s) since I feel I’m wasting my time eating anything else. Plus for this I just need to depend on myself without having to wait for ovens to pre-heat, water to boil etc.

McDonalds is trivializing all other food in the world. It’s fairly obvious why I’m fat and something needs to be done about it. I started yesterday at 151 lbs. Now I am 230, which is pretty obscene any which way you consider it.

The difference of course is that more gold always > less gold whereas eating more not always > eating less.

Ergo, false analogy.

MauricioCezar.2673:

Er… and why remove this farm? I mean, I’m too weak to farm this way, but I don’t see anything bad on it. A giant mass of people are farming events just below, nerf it too?

Well.. Its a event, its temporary. Let the guys do whatever they want, I don’t believe this is marked as cheat for Anet. They are simply good enough to make money out of it. If I could be good enough, I would try it too.

The thing is…I can make 12 times more profit farming Deadeye than I can running dungeons with a perfect group (which you rarely get). As a result I have done nothing but farm him for the past 2 days (before that Subject 7) since I feel I’m wasting my time anywhere else in the game. Plus for this I just need to depend on myself without having to wait for people to join up, no diminishing returns etc.

The Deadeye farm is trivializing all other content in the game. It’s fairly obvious why it’s broken and something needs to be done about it. I started yesterday with 151g. Now I have 230g, which is pretty obscene any which way you consider it.

Evolut.2398:

No matter how many people farm deadeye or how fast, gold will still be deflating due to the cof p1 nerf… However I do believe they have noticed and are working on a method of diminishing returns for the gauntlet instead of just implementing another hotfix here, causing everyone to hop on the next most efficient farmlet boss.

Actually where it not for the Subject 7 nerf, I would never have moved onto Deadeye at all. He’s soooo much easier even allowing me to take on 5 full gambits instead of just 4.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Good art is always controversial. It’s purpose is to get reactions and start discussions. Whoever came up with the design is an absolute genius.

Yeah. Starry night by Van Gogh really got people worked up. All that controversial content.

Darkbattlemage.9612:

Escthiil.3210:

How this can explode into 10 pages of discussion eludes me. :U

Because there a lot of people who need to take more cold showers or start listening to the logical nature of their brains more often.

Honestly, the people who need to take cold showers are those complaining about others objecting to the watchknights.

If you read the thread you’ll see far more heated reactions from people getting all worked about the OP’s original post than those agreeing with him/her.

Excursion.9752:

bhagwad would you mind sharing your build (traits,utilities,weps) ?

Full zerker armor with mango pie for regen. As far as I recall, traits included deceptive evasion, 25 in inspiration for 15% additional phantasm damage, 10 in domination for another 15%, focus skill reflects and recharge, pistol recharge and range traits. Those were the important ones.

Utilities I had were feedback, blink and decoy. Mass invisibility for an elite and mirror for healing.

Broadicea.8294:

Excalibur.9748:

It’s called inflation guys.

Gold will be devalued if he doesn’t get nerfed.

Oh, how much inflation have we experienced then? What goods are you including in your basket when you calculate your consumer price index?

The price of ectos is usually a good barometer.

If endure pain is activated and my health then drops below 25% say from burning, does the new endure pain stack with the old one? If not, does it replace the first or get ignored entirely?

This is important cause I’m trying to squeeze in the frailty gambit for deadeye farming making it 5 gambits overall. Right now taking frailty means I can die if he starts off shooting before my mace tremor can knock him down.

Wayfinder.8452:

We all need a new design direction…

Sorry, couldn’t help it…

This would have been freaking awesome! Why couldn’t the watchknights have been like that if they wanted them to be scary and yet “feminine”?

Vol.5241:

Regarding centaur runes..

if you feel bad about having perma swiftness…a lot of people (including me) used their excess speed boosters

I wish I’d thought of that before. I have a boatload of those things lying around. Dammit!

Wethospu.6437:

Watch this http://youtu.be/KYAjo4ZZXLo and you can feel happy about yourself.

I can attest that it’s not as easy as it looks!

I heard the devs saying that anyone who beats Liadri is a “Very good player”. I beat her after much torture till I finally decided to try my mesmer, but feel I did so in a cheesy way.

I had centaur runes with mirror heal and a focus. So perma swiftness. It counteracted cripple. I just spammed phantasms keeping the target locked on Liadri in phase 2 while running my kitten off. I kid you not – I never even saw her in the second part! I was so busy running. I never had to stop.

Phantasms don’t require you to be facing your opponent when you spawn them so I cast them on the run. Randomly I would use feedback on her without really seeing if it had an effect or not. I was too busy running to check.

Also since I’m not doing damage directly, weakness was irrelevant. My phantasms on low cooldowns did that for me.

I never even had to dodge since I made sure to always run into the AoE areas just as they detonated. I had just one job – run. And I did it well. I had blink slotted in my bar, but never used it even once.

My armor was low so I ate mango pie beforehand to keep it up during phase 1. Also reflects kept her auto attacks in check.

So…I want to feel good about killing her and to think I’m a “Very good player”. But after seeing so many people struggle and seeing my own struggles before I finally beat her with a mesmer (still after lots of tries though), my question remains.

Was that kind of…you know…cheating?

ProxyDamage.9826:

There are several words to describe people who complain about doing something they don’t have to do, but do anyways despite not enjoying it.

I’ll let you guess. Hint: None of them are positive.

What can I say? I take this game seriously. Gotta get as much gold as possible. But if possible I’d also like to have some fun. Hence the humble request to Anet to nerf this guy’s drops or something.

Please nerf Deadeye. It’s getting horribly boring killing him over and over again the whole day. But since it’s so obscenely profitable at 20g per hour, there’s simply no other activity that I can do.

I want to go back to dungeons etc. But as long as Deadeye keeps rewarding me with vast amounts of wealth I’m forced to do only that. After all…that’s why we play right? To get rich?

P.S: This is not sarcasm. I’m serious!

Should include phantasm mesmers in this since they really rule in 1v1s.

When I showed it to my wife, she thought I’d captured her and Liadri was now doomed to follow me around like my slave.

I like that way of looking at it.

Oh yes I do. She deserves it after what she put me through.

Bovinity.8610:

It’ll suffice to say that no one – male or female – that I know thought “Sex” when seeing the big clockwork battle robots.

Exactly and this is why game designers need to start treating their audience like mature people instead of wrongly assuming that we’ll have this puerile reaction.

HumaCarrionEater.8254:

We’re not all going to beat it and that’s a good thing. Something challenging in PVE is awesome to me. Yes there are bugs and imo things need to be changed, (tickets? kitten tickets.) so the gauntlet isn’t a blatant cash sink. But the fights, bugs and camera aside? Awesome! Not everything should be a snap for every single player to get if we’re just talking vanity items. I think the mini is the perfect reward. It gives you some bragging rights but hey if you can’t get it, it will in no way hurt your gaming experience.

If everything already is a snap for every single player, we would all be wielding multiple legendaries.

Move Liadri to the heart of the mists, remove broken armor etc, and give everyone the gear and traits they want….just like in PvP. I guarantee you that lots of complaints would just vanish.

DarksunG.9537:

bhagwad.4281:

The mere existence of players who got it in the first or second try does not negate the fact that there’s a connection.

I didn’t say there wasn’t a connection, I said there is no “direct causal link”. Having more money does not cause victory like buying a precursor. And if you can achieve victory the 1st time around then the CAUSE of victory is skill not money. Money makes up for failure.

Also funny to note that the tickets drop off mobs, chests, and you get 6 for free.

Actually if we can establish that a person has x% chance of winning a fight (with liadri that would be low), then money would be a direct enabler allowing the person to get more tries and thereby get the win.