Hey all,
Im back to GW2 after more than 1.5 years.. Nice to be back ^^
But, I must ask.. whaaats up with the thiefs?
They are mostly a joke in 1vs1 in WvW..
They are no longer competitive! Are thiefs patched to death?
My experience over the last days and the twitch streams that I have seen, make the thief to a joke..I play myself no thief.. but, why do the devs destroy such a fine class?
I miss the nice old 1vs1 battles against thieves!
Arenanet.. bad jobI thought you guys are different from the other MMO Devs..
So long
That sounds like such a practiced and telegraphed story to help the class out… Sorry my fellow thief-mate, if it doesn’t work on us, it won’t work on them…
On the off chance that you’re genuinely sad and worried about the thief class, thanks for your concern but we stopped believing in anyone but our own gameplay perfection to be somewhat potent, at this point.
That elite skill was probably one of the strongest things ever conceived and the best part it, it didn’t even do any damage directly, now THAT was a powerful thief elite.
I wouldn’t mind reveal being an issue if we had a REAL active stealth mechanism like the one Caithe has for the Elite skill.
It essentially reminds me of Rogue’s in WoW with the “Shadowdance”. Essentially the same mechanic.
Well, one can hope, right? Feels like that’s all thieves do this days We’ve become from the masters of stealth to masters of prayer and hope.
Amen.
If you’re in dire need of Spirit Shard, I would assume its worth but otherwise, that +1 level to an alt or simply the convenience is much better value. You can potentially use 10 per week to get a free Black Lion Key as well…
Spirit Shards are also farmable through some mobs (with low rate) so I’d say keep your Tomes for potential use later on
Bliss is absolutely right on all points. Except maybe laptop cooling pad. Ive never needed or used one. I just want to add that I have played GW2 on a lot of computers of varying quality. The component i recommend you focus on is the CPU. GW2 is very CPU heavy. Even on low graphics, Ive had terrible framerates when i had a great graphic card but a mediocre CPU.
When i played with the opposite situation, Great CPU/integrated graphics card, it was a much better experience. I could have medium quality and still have decent framerates in zerg situations.
Thanks I’ve been gaming on laptops since forever… needless to say its been a love/hate relationship. Mostly love when you buy a fresh one and it goes smooth for the first few years and you get to enjoy things like LAN parties with friends and take your gaming anywhere… But there’s always double sides to a coin
For the cooling pad, I have to say if you haven’t tried one yet you definitely should! Good cooling pads reduce heating in between 5-10 degrees Celsius. It really depends on the quality of the pad, the ventilation holes of your laptop. Some laptops have bad “architecture”, ventilation UNDER the laptop instead of back side, and without a cooling pad or structure to elevate the laptop, believe me, it falls short on cooling. Hence getting a pad solves a lot of the problem + cool it additionally.
Here are some examples:
http://heavy.com/tech/2015/03/best-laptop-cooling-pad-cooler-fan-accessories/
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One thing that really changes the ergonomy of a gaming environment is the height of your desk and chair and their position relative to each other.
Basically, you want to sit as low as not having to bend your wrists but as high as avoiding permanent contact with the desk itself.
Second, many pro-league professional players who play for extensive hours (10+), position their keyboards slightly off-set. I’ve actually started doing the same without even knowing its “a thing” because it felt natural to me. Turns out, placing the keyboard straight is actually straining hands. What you do is you slightly shift the left side of the keyboard up. This will cause WASD keys to be slanted and your left hand is completely straight and not strained. Try it — you’ll see what I mean.
Naturally the method above takes a while getting used to cause then you have to slightly shift where every key is and if you type without looking like I do, it causes a little frustration over the upcoming weeks
For the mouse you have to make sure you have the right size. There are certain ways to “grip” the mouse and first you gotta identify which type of grip you are narutally accustomed to. After this, find a mouse for your practical use (MMO mouse if you find you’re running out of comfortable keybinds / regular mouse if you are set with your binds and like ergonomy more than function) and stick to it.
The important thing after setting your gaming gear right is to stick with it and run the mile. You’d be amazed how much you improve with that particular set of gear given you practice long enough. Once you’re comfortable with your setup you’ll notice you can game for longer hours without feeling any pain.
Good luck o/
He actually thinks thieves have sustain like other classes. LOL.
You dont have sustain but you have stealth + regen with stealth+ condi remove with stealth and best mobility in the game with decent damage. You cant have all =)
But wait i can’t gain stealth because engi and other classes have revealed spells
I can’t regen w/o stealth and frankly that regen is quite low and won#t save me from all the dmg flying around.
Condi removal….yeah about that one…. 3 sec stealth to remove 1 condi…. engis on average apply like 5 different condis…. i have to sit 15 sec in stealth to clear them……
Thieves have best vertical mobility but by no means “best” mobility….
Define decent dmg? Are we talking about 3k backstabs (because this is normal, 7-9k backstabs require might stacks, executioner, vuln stacks and squishy target)?
Have it all? Oh rly? Thief is ONLY class in this game right now that has to trade off dmg for CC, has to trade off defensives for mobility, has to trade off CC for dmg because of initiative and the way stealth works. NO OTHER CLASS DOES. Do you see thieves spamming stuns and doing high dmg and having multiple defensives with ports? NO.
Unless there is some secret build that can do it. Please show me.^nailed it dude!
It has to be ignorance or just trolling by Babylon.8972… It would be the same if steal disables F1-F5 from engie. And after complaining that this would be op cause loss of survivalbilty and dmg, I would answer: “hey, you can still block, knockback and use your elite… You can’t have it all”
This is actually something I’ve suggested in the PvP forum under one of the topics:
Successful Steal: Shuts down opponent “F skills” for 4-6 seconds.
Its only fair, am i right?
Wow, this is the second post I read from you (I just read the F4 implementation) and I’m again impressed by how much potential it has despite having a trolling attitude to it
Um, I would like to enhance on this idea and propose F3 being a toggle that can’t be used along with F4 (stealth toggle) if those 2 systems are implemented. So if you choose to stealth, you lose your sustain which makes perfect sense.
Furthermore, toggling the F3 skill will continuously drain 10 endurance per 3 seconds to prevent leaving the toggle on, like you suggested. However, how about instead of granting “perma weakness” to everyone else, it could lower the endurance cost of dodge by 50% and cleanse 1 condition per 3 seconds (just like shadow rejuvenation).
This would be far easier to implement, synergizes with Daredevil and evasive thief playstyle, AND greatly benefit the long-forgotten Pistol mainhand builds.
5/10.
I will explain why I’ve graded it this low.
1) The implementation is very kitten a technical perspective. It is possible, don’t get me wrong, but they’d never implement a work-around this complex, affecting multiple classes at once.
2) The idea immediately creates the notion of difference between classes. Almost as if “classism” Don’t tell me you don’t already see posts on forum/reddit saying how thieves have real stealth while mesmers or other classes have the “useless” stealth. It will affect the community negatively.
3) The idea solves the problem for only 1 weapon set. I especially don’t like how you’ve mentioned “Ghost Stealth” will be attained through “blasts – finishers” which immediately says go D/P or go home. You know stacking stealth through Shortbow is never a thing unless out of combat.
4) After playing for so many years without any movement speed restriction in stealth I really don’t want to go back to “WoW-style stealth” where you’re punished for being invisible.
Overall, good & constructive effort to solve the reveal problem, but unfortunately, not enough in my humble opinion.
The only suggestion I can have for the whole reveal fiasco is to reduce the reveal to 2-3 seconds. 6 is incredibly long as it is. Ripping off stealth is already a huge counterplay, and not letting them gain for another 6 seconds is just ridiculous.
I would also like to see such reveals on a much longer cooldowns (60 + seconds) considering our utility stealth skills are on a relatively long cooldown and it wouldn’t be fair if they could counter it every single time we use one.
I already believe our “initiative-generated stealths” SHOULDN’T be countered that easily. We’re literally spending ~10 initiative to keep ourselves stealthed for 5-6 seconds. We trade our resource of damage/evade/debuffs (anything that initiative grants us) for stealthing ourselves.
I don’t know…. they are really fudging up Thief boys… I feel cheated and sad for investing this much time on a class that lingers on the border of being completely unplayable – unfun.
T_T