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Guardian 1h Sword - Needs Love

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fast attack, teleport and ranged protection

They all have rolls..

Also saying hammer is the best weapon is sort of silly

How is that silly? I can make that argument all day, every day. Burstiest weapon we’ve got, 3 forms of CC, auto-attack chain that procs a Protection symbol. Mighty Blow is a medium range leap that hits harder than anything else a Guardian has (burst-wise) and is an instant cast blast finisher (arguably the best blast finisher in the game). Very, very easy argument to make.

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Guardian 1h Sword - Needs Love

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Binding Blades happens to be the most valuable weapon skill you have as a Guardian so I would not say Hammer is the best weapon.

1H Sword has a very good DPS but can unleash its potential only on single targets. It has an AoE Blind with a fairly low cd which is not something you find on lot of weapons. And btw, Blind is a strong condition even though ineffective on champs and legendaries.

And about the magic effect, it reflects projectiles.

There still are specific mobs I use the 1HSword against but not too much. This weapon, yet balanced, stays in the shadows of more suitable weapons given the situation. Or just because of its lack of utility (after all we are talking about Guardian).

I’m pretty sure that your opinion on Binding Blades is purely subjective. Very good skill for sure, but best…I don’t know about that.

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3/1 - JQ/SoR/BG

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So…I heard on the internet that BG and SoR don’t like eachother. Anyone confirm/deny?

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struggling to maintain high crit and hp

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Well…you have to be willing to compromise. You can’t have both really high HP and really high crit rate. I run Knights armor with a mix of Valkyrie and Knights trinkets (further mixed and matched jewels) and Berzerker weapons (currently Hammer/GS). I’ve got around 55% crit and 62% crit damage (buffed w/ food), +3K armor, and around 16.3K HP. I run a 0/5/30/30/5 AH build and have absolutely no issue with survival. On top of that, I dish out quite alot of damage with high crit and the burstiness of Hammer (Mighty Blow), mixed with the great sustained from constantly critting Whirling Wrath. You have to take into account all the additional tools for survival, that you posses as a Guardian (specced properly). In my opinion and experience, a properly built Guardian really doesn’t HAVE to have alot of HP to lean on…the survivability is built in through traits and utility skills.

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3/1 - JQ/SoR/BG

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They were on SBI from what I understand…i’ve only recently joined them. Good group of dudes, got some nice havoc squad stuff going on. Speaking of which, good fights to the other small groups out and about this past weekend.

I dunno you’d have to check with them. Maybe they were on SBI before, but they were definitely on BG up until the free transfer deadline where they moved to JQ. I saw them around sometimes, but they never got involved in the wvw community website as far as I know. They were probably feeling the server out and decided to hang their hat elsewhere. They picked up some words or praise from JQ and SoS players as great skirmishers back when BG was in T1 in January.

Anyhoo, the guild name still cracks me up. Yeah I’m easily amused, but that’s a good thing sometimes.

Fair enough, like I said…i’ve only recently joined. Like this past weekend. And yeah, I can see where they got a reputation for being solid skirmishers. We were steamrolling groups of 8-10 with our 4-5 on a fairly regular basis. Tough finding small skirmishes out there amongst the zergs though, lol. You have to have so much situational awareness and be on top of your group positioning to succeed. I enjoy and appreciate the challenge.

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3/1 - JQ/SoR/BG

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I’m gonna go out on a limb and assume this is English. Either way, can anyone translate this? My gut tells me he’s chest thumping, but surely not considering how illiterate this post is.

I miss your guild being on Blackgate. My favorite guild name and tag in GW2 by a wide margin.

They were on SBI from what I understand…i’ve only recently joined them. Good group of dudes, got some nice havoc squad stuff going on. Speaking of which, good fights to the other small groups out and about this past weekend.

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3/1 - JQ/SoR/BG

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JQ starts out the thread after feeling they will instantly win. Starts to lose and morale drops. Proceed to the forums to start riots and massive rage. Come on seriously…

I think most of us are okay with a tight match. Of course, i’m sure there are QQing outliers.

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cute sbi rejects cant even win on their rivals server , didnt even get to 5 wins in a row , got some dem legends right there i tell you what

I’m gonna go out on a limb and assume this is English. Either way, can anyone translate this? My gut tells me he’s chest thumping, but surely not considering how illiterate this post is.

I can translate it for you.

“Ich möchte diesen Teppich nicht kaufen. Außerdem ist mein Schlauchboot voller Aale und will Liebe mit mir machen, wie damals auf sbi. Niemand spielt mit mir, ich geh jetzt in den Keller weinen”.

Now it makes much more sense.

I’ll have to go ahead and take your word for it.

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3/1 - JQ/SoR/BG

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cute sbi rejects cant even win on their rivals server , didnt even get to 5 wins in a row , got some dem legends right there i tell you what

I’m gonna go out on a limb and assume this is English. Either way, can anyone translate this? My gut tells me he’s chest thumping, but surely not considering how illiterate this post is.

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I would have been able to take the video a lot more serious if there wasn’t so much swearing. The profanity, to me, changed the video from ‘motivational’ to ‘comical’.

My thoughts exactly. If you are going to record a motivational speech, you will come across a lot more intelligent without the profanity. You didn’t see MLK saying kitten this or kitten that now did you? Video didn’t last 2 minutes for me because I thought about some wow troll trying to get me pumped up to fight.

Indirectly comparing a Martin Luther King Jr. speech to some random rant by a videogame nerd…priceless. /facepalm

Equal rights is basically the same as WvW, right? Right?

I shall unite with my hated foe in this facepalm!

IT SHALL BE THE DOUBLE FACEPALM OF UNITY.

Upvoted for this brief pause to /facepalm in the warm glow of epic fail!

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I would have been able to take the video a lot more serious if there wasn’t so much swearing. The profanity, to me, changed the video from ‘motivational’ to ‘comical’.

My thoughts exactly. If you are going to record a motivational speech, you will come across a lot more intelligent without the profanity. You didn’t see MLK saying kitten this or kitten that now did you? Video didn’t last 2 minutes for me because I thought about some wow troll trying to get me pumped up to fight.

Indirectly comparing a Martin Luther King Jr. speech to some random rant by a videogame nerd…priceless. /facepalm

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Consider Transferring to Kaineng

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it seems that Kaineng weakest link is in the NA coverage… we have few guilds covering for NA primetime, but just a few more would be nice

as well as this a recruitment thread, i would like to also make a call-to-arm especially to Kaineng PVE NA community…. come join your brethren in WvW… join CO/TL if you need guidance…

hum hum SoR strongest point is their na coverage.

just a hint nothing else:D gl

But wouldn’t SoR moving to Kaineng render the “Serious Business Speech” null and void??? Afterall, no server in the history of the universe and all parallel universes has had the kind of community SoR has. I heard it on the internet, it must be true…YMMV.

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So is SOS destined for T8?

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Haha i remember when Henge of Denravi used to say that same stuff about stability.

Um…you mean for three or so weeks after launch? HoD didn’t last long at all…JQ has been in Tier 1 since launch (minus two weeks). Not even a comparison to be honest.

Not that I disagree with you on the difference between HoD and JQ,

But assuming that your server’s WvW population is stable is a huuuuuuge mistake. This is the same for every server in the game. I cannot count the times I’ve seen guilds on various servers talk about how loyal they are and how much server pride they have, only to bandwagon off the server to the next project three weeks later.

There is nothing “special” about JQ other than the fact that they have kept themselves from going through any really bad rough patches that actually test the commitment of their guilds.

Well…we’ve been through some rough patches, including an exodus of a few notable guilds within the first month or so of launch. But yes, I agree that alot of WvW guilds seem to be very fickle. Thus far however, the core guilds on JQ have remained completely loyal ( I speak of those that started on JQ at launch).

Anyway, as to the topic at hand. No way SoS drops all the way to T8, my guess would be T3-T4 as a few other posters have guessed. They’re being far to competative in T2 to expect a drastic plummet.

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So is SOS destined for T8?

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Haha i remember when Henge of Denravi used to say that same stuff about stability.

Um…you mean for three or so weeks after launch? HoD didn’t last long at all…JQ has been in Tier 1 since launch (minus two weeks). Not even a comparison to be honest.

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3/1 - JQ/SoR/BG

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Note: I took this without permission because I did not have the chance to ask the original poster MousePVP.

Sounds like serious business being discussed there.

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Do Illusions have X-Ray vision?

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Well the reason I came on the forums is because it doesn’t seem logical for them to be able to instantly aggro you when you’re nowhere near them, have no sight of you and the player has no clue you’re there. I don’t know why people get so negative when a genuine question / comment is raised.

Sorry if you felt I jumped down your throat. It’s just that these forums get inundated with players crying for nerfs. I apologize if you weren’t here to complain.

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Do Illusions have X-Ray vision?

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Mechanically of course, that would hurt us quite a bit in 1vX scenarios. The chaos created by clone spam has saved me many times.

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As long as they aren’t hitting you while in stealth…I don’t see a problem. And clones ARE technically pets, regardless of how disposable they may be. I’d suggest, if they start attacking you as soon as you exit your stealth, you may want to adjust accordingly. OR…you could come on to the forums and complain about it.

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Fix iLeap CD

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Yeah, it is very frustrating and MH Sword takes a hit as the result. It’s a shame when you have to adjust your playstyle to accommodate glitchy mechanics (which i’ve had to do). There must be SOME way to fix or improve the way this skill acts.

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Fix iLeap CD

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but it would fix it, the pathing problems won’t get fixed anyways… and if they would let the clone teleport it would at least work 100% of the time.

I like this idea alot. This would make me very happy. I can’t tell you how many times i’ve “whiffed” because of pathing.

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Huge Mesmer Bugs this patch

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What are you even arguing about?

People putting words into my mouth…..I never once said it wasnt a bug, I wouldn’t class it as a hugh bug, defiantly not bigger than the stealth bug.

It’s more centralized around a growing trend of responses that seem to display this attitude. To be fair I don’t see where you explicitly say this, but the implication is that because the bug isn’t affecting your play style it’s not, as you say, a “real issue”.

It affects other people’s play style and it’s obviously a bug, so yes…this is an issue.

It’s because I never explicitly said it and the OP replied to my first post with a fake quote that I never said so I defended myself against his response.

Sorry, didn’t know he edited the quoted post. Fair enough.

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Spike in full bunker popularity?

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So bunker builds are popular because quickly popping a stun breaker is too hard even in a balanced build? Ok… I can see that… sadly…

Its not the popping of a stun breaker… Its using those stun breakers to avoid the damage… But the perpetrator can just reset and do it again while your stun breaks are on cd.

This is why whenever I see a Thief open up on my D/D Ele I just pop my Mist Form > Lightning Flash and RTL away and never come back. Fighting a thief is pointless, a bad one will stealth, keep resetting the fight or just down right run away when things don’t go their way. A good thief will probably do the same thing, so far in WvW you can’t really tell the difference because 99% of what I said is a normal encounter with a thief. Don’t get me wrong, I will fight any other class, but fighting a thief(in WvW anyways, not PvP) is the equivalent of banging your head against a wall.

I find it funny that some one complains about a thief being able to disengage from a fight… and then tell how they are able to do it themselves.

/facepalm

How about letting people enjoy the game the way they want and not worrying about it? There’s alot of damage flying around out there, some people just appreciate the increased survivability. Myself, I play my Mesmer full-on GC shatter. I can honestly say that this “issue” that you’ve brought to the forums, has never bothered me a single bit. It may also help to not be quite so condescending in your replies to people.

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Fix iLeap CD

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How about they fix iLeap altogether? It’s been finicky since BWE.

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Huge Mesmer Bugs this patch

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Your argument is flawed and short sighted. And you are clearly fighting scrubs.

Care to point out how its flawed ? In the clip I link they are scrubs, thats one clip…..

Seems like there are a few people out there that think not wanting to put up with bugs is a negative thing. Why?

If this is aimed at me could you please point out where I said not wanting to put up with a bug is negative ? Read my first post in this thread……I stand by what I said in it.

Clones are not a way to stay hidden amongst them indefinatly. Anyone who is not a scrub in WvW wouldn’t have to look at your clones to check for weapons as they will quickly pick up on the real mesmer.

So I stand by my closing statement that it caused no real issue.

What are you even arguing about? It’s clearly a bug. Why shouldn’t anyone who plays this class want this fixed? I fool good players with clones all the time.

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Huge Mesmer Bugs this patch

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Yeah, it truly is getting a bit tiresome having to QA these patches. I mean I get it that these games are very complicated, but come on. iLeap is SO important for a melee Mesmer to lockdown an opponent, I really, really wish they’d just fix the pathing and all the other related issues. I’ve run Sword MH since BWE 2, and Mesmer is my main, i’ve very nearly perfected the gameplay…and skill number 3 STILL tricks me from time-to-time, lol. And please, for the love of all that’s holy, let us know that the lack of a cripple is a bug and not yet another ninja nerf.

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Spike in full bunker popularity?

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bunker mes? there is no such thing as a bunker build for mesmers… is “bunker” just your shorthand for any class you have trouble defeating?

Even a cursory glance in the Mesmer forums will reveal the existence, and in fact viability, of bunker Mesmers. I’d go so far as to say a Mesmer bunker is amongst the best bunker professions in the game.

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I hope not! But honestly the iLeap swap combo happens so fast now that a lot of people haven’t noticed it… I do wish they would stop ninja nerfing us while advertising all the improvements that are in the patch.

Yeah, happens super fast, when everything works out…but that cripple is pretty big. At least for my playstyle. iLeap has always been (since BWE) pretty finicky…getting hung up on seemingly benign terrain, not firing off at all (when I would have SWORN I was in range), and just overall a pain to work around. IF the cripple has been nerfed, it’d be pretty annoying.

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Is the iLeap thing a bug, or intended? Did they nerf iLeap and just “forget” to put it in patch notes? Referring to the cripple…

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Don't be a wimp - Transfer to FC

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I would honestly support anet making transfers free to T8 servers with an uncompetitive matchup to help you guys out some.

You should transfer to FC…I heard it takes 20+ people from JQ to kill you. LOL! You’d be unstoppable there!

The individual skill level on JQ was very low last time BG was on T1… I had no problem handling equal or even slightly higher numbers while we were there.

Since you came use your irony (and brag about your server) i’ll take that chance to jab you. But i’ll gladly delete this post if you remove yours. (To not polute the thread).

It was a sarcastic post aimed at the person I quoted, and did not involve you in the least. I never bragged about my server, why would you be so sensitive about this? I’m sure you’re as amazing as you claim to be. I’ve found that people who make such claims ALWAYS live up to them. LOL.

P.S. I’m not under some sort of illusion that the best players are in the top tiers. I understand what wins WvW in GW2, and i’m positive there are many quality players in the lower tiers. Don’t be so quick to jump to conclusions next time.

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Don't be a wimp - Transfer to FC

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I would honestly support anet making transfers free to T8 servers with an uncompetitive matchup to help you guys out some.

You should transfer to FC…I heard it takes 20+ people from JQ to kill you. LOL! You’d be unstoppable there!

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new title video : hb goes t1 bis and hope not to drop in 3 weeks again after being stacked

In retrospect…pretty funny. LMAO.

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Free gems (1 time only) to transfer servers.

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Why exactly would they do this? To throw turmoil back into the brackets? I believe WvW is about as stable/fair as it’s going to get…for better or worse.

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I am sorry, of course you are right. I can think of no guild on JQ that would jump ship simply because the server is not doing as well as it once had.

My apologizes sir!

I can, every guild that recently transferred over for starters.

I could be way off, but i’m fairly certain he was being sarcastic.

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Welcome to T1 wvwvw.. I mean Jade Quarry!

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Amazing what JQ can do when playing against NPCs. Seriously outstanding.

See you next week, “champs”.

Yeah I mean, SoR and SoS they so tired of getting steamrolled by JQ they just stopped playing WvW. You wonder why they always complain about not fielding enough numbers. Its because they know they aint got no chance in hell so why even log into WvW when playing against JQ.

It must be nice not knowing a thing about what SoS internal politics was like from your position, and then deciding to post about it here.

Again, see you next week.

I think I know what happened. I’m thinking ‘some’ people couldn’t handle losing and lacked the intestinal fortitude to even bother fighting back, and instead went the easier, softer way and hopped to BG. But hey, i could be way off. Either way, looking forward to crushing you and your server next week. Maybe this time we can get your guild to quit the game, instead of just the server, lol.

Do you have the slightest idea how much damage your server is doing to this game?

You can tell JQ does not care, hell they would recruit more if they got the chance.

Do you somehow believe that PvE doesn’t pay the bills for Anet? WvW is a very small fraction of GW2 in terms of playerbase. Do you really believe that Jade Quarry, a single server in the game, is ‘damaging’ the game by winning decidedly? Is the sky, in fact falling?

That is funny coming from a JQ player which is predominantly WvW. Actually WvW is what keeps alot of people in the game and makes most of ANet money. The WvW is the only place that builds server and guilds reputation, hence the bragging rights and people pay gold to transfer not for PvE but for WvW.
Needless to say any imbalance in the WvW is bad for both winners and losers as it affects their gameplay. Winning without challenge aka PvDooring and getting stomped all the time at the other end it is a game breaker, people lose interest after a while and eventually move on.

Right, but you cannot blame a server of gamers for flawed game design…that’s just ridiculous. Wouldn’t you agree?

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Is it really ‘winning’ when there is no risk of ‘losing’?

I know what I’d call it. But that would get me banned.

Just hope you guys don’t go blind.

Yes, it still counts as winning. The most points ‘win’ the match. Almost positive that’s how it works.

So maybe Anet should institute a handicap system, say like in golf, for WvW and even things out.

BTW does the hair you guys are growing on your palms get itchy?

I’ll be sure to write a letter to Anet requesting a formal apology for allowing the highest score to win the match in WvW. Let me guess, you think everyone should receive a trophy?

I guess what I’m questioning is how can anyone on JQ feel any sense of accomplishment, when other than stacking your server, you haven’t really accomplished anything to remotely feel proud of? At least over the past couple of weeks. Before the stacking, who knows you might actually have been as skilled as has been implied.

It’s really akin to… I better not go there.

Are we talking about actual real life pride in a video game? Because lets be honest, it really is kind of frivolous in the grand scheme of things. You seem to blame JQ for Anet’s WvW mechanics, why is that? JQ is winning within the constraints of the games mechanics…what’s the problem?

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And yet here are all the BG’ers opening their mouths in a thread that doesn’t concern them.

Please hurry up and come to T1 so we can send you right back down again. You guys do well as a spectator server.

Hahah it actually does kind of concern Blackgate if you keep talking about the server we are in and throwing out false accusations of what you think our server has been doing (the 2k gold thing you said and supposedly we’re talking trash to JQ?)

If you don’t want us to be involved in the thread then quit involving us in the thread so we don’t have to get involved in the thread, big bird.

Check a couple of pages back. Your forum warriors invaded the thread. I’m not making this up. And it seems to me that the only thing they’ve done is chest thump before your server has even made it back up to Tier 1, lol.

I just checked, I don’t see it, maybe you can link it

I wasn’t replying to you. Check the quoted post. The persons’ name is attached to it. >.>

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Verdict is still out on Blackgate and how they will fare in T1. JQ is proven, BG is not…yet. Not to mention, with all the recent transfers Blackgates’ identity has changed. We shall see I suppose. But I would warn against chest thumping before your server has even won a single match in T1. Like, ever.

BG has never done poorly in T1.

They were proving to be at least as strong as the current servers but were pushed out by SOR fighting a dead server.

BG fared well before all of this. BG will only fare better now.

I wouldn’t warn anyone against chest thumping.

Every server “chest thumps” and thats half the reason i read these threads. some people are getting way too aggravated by folks being proud/excited they are doing well in a game and making a post about it.

I say post away if you’re proud. Thats what forums are for.

Well, if you’ll reread my post, you’ll note that I never stated that BG ‘did poorly’ in T1. I said they’ve never ‘won’ a Tier 1 match…because they haven’t. And about the chest thumping, it’s generally better to chest thump when you’re actually winning, than chest thumping while you’re still playing in the Minor Leagues. Just saying, copy/paste can be a cold, cruel mistress, lol.

BG is playing in the minor leagues? I think Blackgate record versus one of your opponents is well documented, and I guess if your going to call Kaineng minor league, maybe you should look closer at your own matchup. It’s a good thing BG is doing all the chest thumping around here………snicker

See, this is the thing…chest thumping is much better when you’re winning. We’re winning. And yes, Tier 2 is the minors. How many times has a server dominated Tier 2, come into Tier 1 full of you know what and vinegar, and gotten steamrolled in 3rd place? I’ll give you a hint…alot. It’s happened alot of times. I’m sorry if these facts hurt your feelings, that isn’t my intent.

So BG is winning against 2 servers and your winning against 1.65 servers……..ok, got it.

Well, 1.65 Tier 1 servers, you got that? Tier 1 is a COMPLETELY different beast from Tier 2. I thought you’d have figured that out by now. Are you still using a result in Tier 2 as some sort of prediction of future success in Tier 1? Really?

We were in T1, JQ never, ever attacked SoS, they hid in their keeps until BG went on no coverage for 4-6 hours and then took all the PvDoor they could……it was impressive and I really felt like I was being Culled by the best, while we weren’t there, that is!

Okay then, so we can agree that lack of coverage won’t be your excuse this time around, right?

I don’t think coverage was an excuse last time, we didn’t have it, not much you can do about it, but I know it wasn’t JQ that was in your words “steamrolling” BG, it was SoS, JQ just hid and played for second or ran up and waited for a good SoS/BG battle and then scraped up the leftovers, T1 was so boring I think I died about 1/2 as much as I have in T2 because in T2 people actually battle constantly,open field, keeps, towers, camps, water, everywhere. But I’m sure you’re much more fierce now that you have won T1 a couple times so I’ll be sure to be scared and hide in keeps and towers all day like you did while we were in T1

Out of curiosity, what was the final score in the last match BG played in Tier 1 prior to being sent back to T2? I’m pretty sure it’d count as being ‘steamrolled’ by JQ. I’m sorry you haven’t won Tier 1.

How many times have you won T1, how many weeks have you been there, actually the last match against JQ for some odd reason a bunch of the BG guilds wanted to stop fighting because of some reset reason, they clearly had second in the bag, not sure why they all took Tuesday-Friday off, made zero sense to me. Second isn’t that bad is it, you were stuck there for decades weren’t you?

JQ has won first 7 times. So, in overall 1st place count we have JQ 7 and BG 0. Noone ever said 2nd place in Tier 1 is bad. Did I say that? I’m just suggesting that you put your money where your mouth is. Because, as you can see, JQ has done exactly that.

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Posted by: crewthief.8649

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And yet here are all the BG’ers opening their mouths in a thread that doesn’t concern them.

Please hurry up and come to T1 so we can send you right back down again. You guys do well as a spectator server.

Hahah it actually does kind of concern Blackgate if you keep talking about the server we are in and throwing out false accusations of what you think our server has been doing (the 2k gold thing you said and supposedly we’re talking trash to JQ?)

If you don’t want us to be involved in the thread then quit involving us in the thread so we don’t have to get involved in the thread, big bird.

Check a couple of pages back. Your forum warriors invaded the thread. I’m not making this up. And it seems to me that the only thing they’ve done is chest thump before your server has even made it back up to Tier 1, lol.

Not seeing any chest thumping, just seeing these two guys crewchief and kryyyg talking trash, anyways hope you guys have fun in T1, according to mos millenium your having a really tough competition right now. See you soon fellers.

Yeah, it’s nerve-wrackingly close. Looks the same in Tier 2, must be brutal fighting for every single tick like that.

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And yet here are all the BG’ers opening their mouths in a thread that doesn’t concern them.

Please hurry up and come to T1 so we can send you right back down again. You guys do well as a spectator server.

Hahah it actually does kind of concern Blackgate if you keep talking about the server we are in and throwing out false accusations of what you think our server has been doing (the 2k gold thing you said and supposedly we’re talking trash to JQ?)

If you don’t want us to be involved in the thread then quit involving us in the thread so we don’t have to get involved in the thread, big bird.

Check a couple of pages back. Your forum warriors invaded the thread. I’m not making this up. And it seems to me that the only thing they’ve done is chest thump before your server has even made it back up to Tier 1, lol.

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Is it really ‘winning’ when there is no risk of ‘losing’?

I know what I’d call it. But that would get me banned.

Just hope you guys don’t go blind.

Yes, it still counts as winning. The most points ‘win’ the match. Almost positive that’s how it works.

So maybe Anet should institute a handicap system, say like in golf, for WvW and even things out.

BTW does the hair you guys are growing on your palms get itchy?

I’ll be sure to write a letter to Anet requesting a formal apology for allowing the highest score to win the match in WvW. Let me guess, you think everyone should receive a trophy?

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Posted by: crewthief.8649

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Verdict is still out on Blackgate and how they will fare in T1. JQ is proven, BG is not…yet. Not to mention, with all the recent transfers Blackgates’ identity has changed. We shall see I suppose. But I would warn against chest thumping before your server has even won a single match in T1. Like, ever.

BG has never done poorly in T1.

They were proving to be at least as strong as the current servers but were pushed out by SOR fighting a dead server.

BG fared well before all of this. BG will only fare better now.

I wouldn’t warn anyone against chest thumping.

Every server “chest thumps” and thats half the reason i read these threads. some people are getting way too aggravated by folks being proud/excited they are doing well in a game and making a post about it.

I say post away if you’re proud. Thats what forums are for.

Well, if you’ll reread my post, you’ll note that I never stated that BG ‘did poorly’ in T1. I said they’ve never ‘won’ a Tier 1 match…because they haven’t. And about the chest thumping, it’s generally better to chest thump when you’re actually winning, than chest thumping while you’re still playing in the Minor Leagues. Just saying, copy/paste can be a cold, cruel mistress, lol.

BG is playing in the minor leagues? I think Blackgate record versus one of your opponents is well documented, and I guess if your going to call Kaineng minor league, maybe you should look closer at your own matchup. It’s a good thing BG is doing all the chest thumping around here………snicker

See, this is the thing…chest thumping is much better when you’re winning. We’re winning. And yes, Tier 2 is the minors. How many times has a server dominated Tier 2, come into Tier 1 full of you know what and vinegar, and gotten steamrolled in 3rd place? I’ll give you a hint…alot. It’s happened alot of times. I’m sorry if these facts hurt your feelings, that isn’t my intent.

So BG is winning against 2 servers and your winning against 1.65 servers……..ok, got it.

Well, 1.65 Tier 1 servers, you got that? Tier 1 is a COMPLETELY different beast from Tier 2. I thought you’d have figured that out by now. Are you still using a result in Tier 2 as some sort of prediction of future success in Tier 1? Really?

We were in T1, JQ never, ever attacked SoS, they hid in their keeps until BG went on no coverage for 4-6 hours and then took all the PvDoor they could……it was impressive and I really felt like I was being Culled by the best, while we weren’t there, that is!

Okay then, so we can agree that lack of coverage won’t be your excuse this time around, right?

I don’t think coverage was an excuse last time, we didn’t have it, not much you can do about it, but I know it wasn’t JQ that was in your words “steamrolling” BG, it was SoS, JQ just hid and played for second or ran up and waited for a good SoS/BG battle and then scraped up the leftovers, T1 was so boring I think I died about 1/2 as much as I have in T2 because in T2 people actually battle constantly,open field, keeps, towers, camps, water, everywhere. But I’m sure you’re much more fierce now that you have won T1 a couple times so I’ll be sure to be scared and hide in keeps and towers all day like you did while we were in T1

Out of curiosity, what was the final score in the last match BG played in Tier 1 prior to being sent back to T2? I’m pretty sure it’d count as being ‘steamrolled’ by JQ. I’m sorry you haven’t won Tier 1.

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Why is BG spamming the SOS/JQ/SOR thread?

No clue, but as a fellow player on BG, I wish it would stop (hint hint). Also, to be clear, BG isn’t spamming anything. It’s one or two people that happen to play on BG.

Yeah, pretty much this. It’s only a couple of BG peeps that i’ve seen. It’ll be a good match. And if we win, those two BG peeps won’t make a peep on these forums, lol.

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Is it really ‘winning’ when there is no risk of ‘losing’?

I know what I’d call it. But that would get me banned.

Just hope you guys don’t go blind.

Yes, it still counts as winning. The most points ‘win’ the match. Almost positive that’s how it works.

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Why is BG spamming the SOS/JQ/SOR thread?

They got a couple of guilds, dominating Tier 2 currently, and their forum warriors are out in force. I guess.

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Verdict is still out on Blackgate and how they will fare in T1. JQ is proven, BG is not…yet. Not to mention, with all the recent transfers Blackgates’ identity has changed. We shall see I suppose. But I would warn against chest thumping before your server has even won a single match in T1. Like, ever.

BG has never done poorly in T1.

They were proving to be at least as strong as the current servers but were pushed out by SOR fighting a dead server.

BG fared well before all of this. BG will only fare better now.

I wouldn’t warn anyone against chest thumping.

Every server “chest thumps” and thats half the reason i read these threads. some people are getting way too aggravated by folks being proud/excited they are doing well in a game and making a post about it.

I say post away if you’re proud. Thats what forums are for.

Well, if you’ll reread my post, you’ll note that I never stated that BG ‘did poorly’ in T1. I said they’ve never ‘won’ a Tier 1 match…because they haven’t. And about the chest thumping, it’s generally better to chest thump when you’re actually winning, than chest thumping while you’re still playing in the Minor Leagues. Just saying, copy/paste can be a cold, cruel mistress, lol.

BG is playing in the minor leagues? I think Blackgate record versus one of your opponents is well documented, and I guess if your going to call Kaineng minor league, maybe you should look closer at your own matchup. It’s a good thing BG is doing all the chest thumping around here………snicker

See, this is the thing…chest thumping is much better when you’re winning. We’re winning. And yes, Tier 2 is the minors. How many times has a server dominated Tier 2, come into Tier 1 full of you know what and vinegar, and gotten steamrolled in 3rd place? I’ll give you a hint…alot. It’s happened alot of times. I’m sorry if these facts hurt your feelings, that isn’t my intent.

So BG is winning against 2 servers and your winning against 1.65 servers……..ok, got it.

Well, 1.65 Tier 1 servers, you got that? Tier 1 is a COMPLETELY different beast from Tier 2. I thought you’d have figured that out by now. Are you still using a result in Tier 2 as some sort of prediction of future success in Tier 1? Really?

We were in T1, JQ never, ever attacked SoS, they hid in their keeps until BG went on no coverage for 4-6 hours and then took all the PvDoor they could……it was impressive and I really felt like I was being Culled by the best, while we weren’t there, that is!

Okay then, so we can agree that lack of coverage won’t be your excuse this time around, right?

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Posted by: crewthief.8649

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Verdict is still out on Blackgate and how they will fare in T1. JQ is proven, BG is not…yet. Not to mention, with all the recent transfers Blackgates’ identity has changed. We shall see I suppose. But I would warn against chest thumping before your server has even won a single match in T1. Like, ever.

Who in Blackgate has chest thumped and what is it JQ has proven? That they can play for second or third for months, I think Blackgate has proven they play to win even when massively out numbered as they were while in T1. Blackgate has played for first for months, so what is it you’re handing advice to Blackgate about…….finally winning something after months by crawling, and begging to others to stack your server. People came to Blackgate of their own free will

Yes free will but I’m sure the 2000 gold you guys paid to each guild had nothing to do with it. People actually came to JQ before free transfers were closed for our community, the fact that we are #1 just shows how well we work together.

I really hope you BG are ready to play in the big leagues not get pushed out after a couple weeks like you have historically because you guys reek of arrogance.

BG the “pay to win” server. I won’t lie, it’s going to be quite embarrassing if you guys don’t put up a good fight considering you went through considerable length and EXPENSE to try and become competitive.

who got paid 2k in gold? FoE and AGG said no one paid them so who paid who. People came to JQ because you were T1 and if I recall Red Guard was there not to mention to went around begging..errr , recruiting, people are actually paying to come to Blackgate, who’s paying to come to JQ? What’s really going to be embarresing is if JQ loses considering BG and SoRs past and knowing they will fight each other, maybe JQ can play their patented sit back and only attack the weak during non coverage periods like they did the last time BG was in T1

Well, with your comments, you better hope BG wins, lol. Something about your mouth writing checks that something else can’t cash comes to mind. Get out of Tier 2 and maybe you can be involved in a T1 match thread next week. Maybe.

I didn’t say anything you’re the one trash talking about beating an old foe I don’t remember ever losing to, and a server that lost 7 powerful guilds, congrats! Oh we’re coming to T1, no maybe about it. Try a rebuttal of points sometime instead of We’re the almighty powerful world league JQ and you’re in lowly T2 babble, maybe post some more screens of 4 waypoints against no one

SoR is quite a bit different now from the SoR you guys fought a while back. Didn’t you get the memo? They’re a very solid server. But underestimate them if you will…and even better, underestimate JQ. Again, when you’ve actually won Tier 1, the bluster will possibly have some validity to it…until then, it’s just nonsense to be honest.

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Verdict is still out on Blackgate and how they will fare in T1. JQ is proven, BG is not…yet. Not to mention, with all the recent transfers Blackgates’ identity has changed. We shall see I suppose. But I would warn against chest thumping before your server has even won a single match in T1. Like, ever.

BG has never done poorly in T1.

They were proving to be at least as strong as the current servers but were pushed out by SOR fighting a dead server.

BG fared well before all of this. BG will only fare better now.

I wouldn’t warn anyone against chest thumping.

Every server “chest thumps” and thats half the reason i read these threads. some people are getting way too aggravated by folks being proud/excited they are doing well in a game and making a post about it.

I say post away if you’re proud. Thats what forums are for.

Well, if you’ll reread my post, you’ll note that I never stated that BG ‘did poorly’ in T1. I said they’ve never ‘won’ a Tier 1 match…because they haven’t. And about the chest thumping, it’s generally better to chest thump when you’re actually winning, than chest thumping while you’re still playing in the Minor Leagues. Just saying, copy/paste can be a cold, cruel mistress, lol.

BG is playing in the minor leagues? I think Blackgate record versus one of your opponents is well documented, and I guess if your going to call Kaineng minor league, maybe you should look closer at your own matchup. It’s a good thing BG is doing all the chest thumping around here………snicker

See, this is the thing…chest thumping is much better when you’re winning. We’re winning. And yes, Tier 2 is the minors. How many times has a server dominated Tier 2, come into Tier 1 full of you know what and vinegar, and gotten steamrolled in 3rd place? I’ll give you a hint…alot. It’s happened alot of times. I’m sorry if these facts hurt your feelings, that isn’t my intent.

So BG is winning against 2 servers and your winning against 1.65 servers……..ok, got it.

Well, 1.65 Tier 1 servers, you got that? Tier 1 is a COMPLETELY different beast from Tier 2. I thought you’d have figured that out by now. Are you still using a result in Tier 2 as some sort of prediction of future success in Tier 1? Really?

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Verdict is still out on Blackgate and how they will fare in T1. JQ is proven, BG is not…yet. Not to mention, with all the recent transfers Blackgates’ identity has changed. We shall see I suppose. But I would warn against chest thumping before your server has even won a single match in T1. Like, ever.

BG has never done poorly in T1.

They were proving to be at least as strong as the current servers but were pushed out by SOR fighting a dead server.

BG fared well before all of this. BG will only fare better now.

I wouldn’t warn anyone against chest thumping.

Every server “chest thumps” and thats half the reason i read these threads. some people are getting way too aggravated by folks being proud/excited they are doing well in a game and making a post about it.

I say post away if you’re proud. Thats what forums are for.

Well, if you’ll reread my post, you’ll note that I never stated that BG ‘did poorly’ in T1. I said they’ve never ‘won’ a Tier 1 match…because they haven’t. And about the chest thumping, it’s generally better to chest thump when you’re actually winning, than chest thumping while you’re still playing in the Minor Leagues. Just saying, copy/paste can be a cold, cruel mistress, lol.

BG is playing in the minor leagues? I think Blackgate record versus one of your opponents is well documented, and I guess if your going to call Kaineng minor league, maybe you should look closer at your own matchup. It’s a good thing BG is doing all the chest thumping around here………snicker

See, this is the thing…chest thumping is much better when you’re winning. We’re winning. And yes, Tier 2 is the minors. How many times has a server dominated Tier 2, come into Tier 1 full of you know what and vinegar, and gotten steamrolled in 3rd place? I’ll give you a hint…alot. It’s happened alot of times. I’m sorry if these facts hurt your feelings, that isn’t my intent.

Well that and the fact that historically BG has a habit of talking a lot of smack when they are winning in T2, then coming to T1 and then getting just wrecked.

They’re one of the servers in my example…I just didn’t come out and say it, lol.

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crewthief.8649

Verdict is still out on Blackgate and how they will fare in T1. JQ is proven, BG is not…yet. Not to mention, with all the recent transfers Blackgates’ identity has changed. We shall see I suppose. But I would warn against chest thumping before your server has even won a single match in T1. Like, ever.

BG has never done poorly in T1.

They were proving to be at least as strong as the current servers but were pushed out by SOR fighting a dead server.

BG fared well before all of this. BG will only fare better now.

I wouldn’t warn anyone against chest thumping.

Every server “chest thumps” and thats half the reason i read these threads. some people are getting way too aggravated by folks being proud/excited they are doing well in a game and making a post about it.

I say post away if you’re proud. Thats what forums are for.

Well, if you’ll reread my post, you’ll note that I never stated that BG ‘did poorly’ in T1. I said they’ve never ‘won’ a Tier 1 match…because they haven’t. And about the chest thumping, it’s generally better to chest thump when you’re actually winning, than chest thumping while you’re still playing in the Minor Leagues. Just saying, copy/paste can be a cold, cruel mistress, lol.

BG is playing in the minor leagues? I think Blackgate record versus one of your opponents is well documented, and I guess if your going to call Kaineng minor league, maybe you should look closer at your own matchup. It’s a good thing BG is doing all the chest thumping around here………snicker

See, this is the thing…chest thumping is much better when you’re winning. We’re winning. And yes, Tier 2 is the minors. How many times has a server dominated Tier 2, come into Tier 1 full of you know what and vinegar, and gotten steamrolled in 3rd place? I’ll give you a hint…alot. It’s happened alot of times. I’m sorry if these facts hurt your feelings, that isn’t my intent.

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Amazing what JQ can do when playing against NPCs. Seriously outstanding.

See you next week, “champs”.

Yeah I mean, SoR and SoS they so tired of getting steamrolled by JQ they just stopped playing WvW. You wonder why they always complain about not fielding enough numbers. Its because they know they aint got no chance in hell so why even log into WvW when playing against JQ.

It must be nice not knowing a thing about what SoS internal politics was like from your position, and then deciding to post about it here.

Again, see you next week.

I think I know what happened. I’m thinking ‘some’ people couldn’t handle losing and lacked the intestinal fortitude to even bother fighting back, and instead went the easier, softer way and hopped to BG. But hey, i could be way off. Either way, looking forward to crushing you and your server next week. Maybe this time we can get your guild to quit the game, instead of just the server, lol.

Do you have the slightest idea how much damage your server is doing to this game?

You can tell JQ does not care, hell they would recruit more if they got the chance.

Do you somehow believe that PvE doesn’t pay the bills for Anet? WvW is a very small fraction of GW2 in terms of playerbase. Do you really believe that Jade Quarry, a single server in the game, is ‘damaging’ the game by winning decidedly? Is the sky, in fact falling?

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