comparing a foul with ddos,comparing basketball with a gw2 match, sayin a legit firewall would have prevented a ddos – I don’t even know where I should start
You dont assume the best case scenario if you say the condition warrior would get bursted to 50% hp within 10 seconds.
Thats a pathetic assumption and would only happen against people below garbage
Hands down,nobody needs to wonder that the games seem so sluggish if nearly all of the involved players show their ’ I actually don’t care about this game-attitude’ that openly to viewers. Not to mention, that it wasn’t that exciting to watch in the past anyways.
I logged out of twitch after the second game because I couldn’t resist it any longer.
I don’t need to say something to your
“shield-thief” and “illusion-thief” – that’s basically the only funny thing – your name even made it to twitch chat, that’s something I guess
fivedawgs the guy who gets carried by venom share thiefs and who lost against a weaponless druid.the guy who knows less than nerdkitten and jon snow combined -maybe this forum clown is Zeffiro88 on NA account, dont know
Saying you burst the warrior within 10 seconds to 50% is just ridiculous. I can kite, I can dodge, I can block, I can do whatever I want at the start – this isn’t pve where I have to tank your gretasword- rush, whirlwind,eviscerate, arcing slice or what not so. Even with rampage you wouldn’t get me to 50% in 10 seconds…..
Fivedawgs, you asked a forum poster above if he could explain why he disagreed with you. I then helpfully responded why he probably disagreed with you. That’s all.
Ye thank you, appreciated. His post was so wrong and laughable at the same time, I just couldn’t answer anything to him at this time.
Are you kitten ing stupid or what?? Do the minions look like the necro?? Are you missing brain cells or what??
Hard words for somebody who is talking about ‘illusion thiefs’ , ’ shield thiefs’ and who considers venom share thief viable.
So, my argument about build diversity is still valid.
Ye it is. The build diversity for thief is nearly the best in game with the well known illusion thief, perma evade thief, shield thief and venom share thief.
I think you forgot the trap thief and the perma stealth thief, tho.
Why?
Only mesmers and warriors use it – warrior doesn’t seem too strong with it at all and with reference to mesmer it’s not the amulet which is the root of the problem.
What’s the point then to say that the power warrior and the condition warrior have both access to adrenal health and cleansing irse ,while in fact it’s only the condition warrior.
Especally in a 1v1 power warrior is in a disadvantage because in a 1v1 he has so much less access to adrenal health and cleansing irse. Conditon warrior is superior in pretty much every aspect at the moment.
Maximum Condi Negation Power Condi Cleanse with Bursts (3 per burst)
Maximum Healing for both
Adrenal Health x3
You just assume that the powerwarrior is getting at the same way access to cleansing irse and adrenal health like the condition warrior which simply will not be the case if your opponent plays properly.
Mercenary should win easily against power warrior if you play properly simply because you get free adrenalin heal with bow while power warrior does not get it
Saying that druid would survive even without weapons is laughable and just proves that you dont even Know how the astral mechanic works. You get astral with attacks and healing so staff is important. Without you will even lose 1v1s against scrappers
Plague sending ( trait of plague signet ) is passive. Once you reach the condition threshold it automatically happens. You don’t have to do anything to make it happen.
You have to do a crit for the plague trait, so it is according to your strict and weird logic also active, but keep trying you are cute – and just you know I’m not misinterpreting a poem or something I interpret a broad term.
You have to ACTIVATE AND HIT with f1 to get the regen.
Prettttttttttty sure there’s nothing passive about it, you’re literally ACTIVATING a skill to get the bonus that comes from the effect.
Just like you have to ACTIVATE EP for it to give you the effect.
You don’t get Adrenal Health by not doing anything.
Ya’ll trollin, have to be.
I didn’t deny that you actively have to do sth for it. Not sure if you even read my post.
As I said, for the necro transfer trait you also have to do ACTIVELY a critical attack and the scrapper had to get ACTIVELY superspeed and swiftness for his heal-trait – still everyone – me included- considers this passive and not active.
Idk what’s so hard to understand that there are people outside who don’t consider everything active only because you have to press one botton for it.
A trait that heals you for 15 seconds about 500hp each second passively for using one skill once is in my opinion more passive than active – deal with it that there are opinions which are different from yours.
“Passive” by definition in the context that Anet uses it in defining abilities is not up for varying “opinions”. You’re clearly wrong about this. Calling it your opinion doesn’t give you a pass.
Terms relating to characteristics are always interpretable.
And I still consider traits that require minimal actions for a massive output rather passive than active . I’m just saying what everyone else said to other class-traits (rapid regeneraton, plague sig-trait, etc) – they are all ‘active’ by definition.
Bump, someone lol’ed at my post and I would appreciate it if I could get an answer back.
Thanks.
I also ‘lol’ at your post. I mean we all know that ranked wasn’t competitive but it was still more competitive than playing matches with and against backpedaling norn-roleplayers who want to do their daily on the guild’s ‘pvp-day’. 9 out of 10 matches I face the same dumb people I would have faced in emerald/amber
We need ranked matches and a decent leaderboard that goes on off-season, which people are demanding since years.
I also really really liked the idea to introduce a 2v2 queue which is similar to the ‘random arena’ of gw1 – just in a 2v2 setting
because people playing with thief now was such a surprise
Considering pros were rating thief C tier, or at about 6th place…yea..
Considering everyone said right after the balance patch that thief might be the 5th spot and considering it was clear that every team with a thief main was going to try out thief/rev…… no…
Legend Ross Biddle same lvl like top 3 mesmers ingame confirmed – only untouchable malferian is superior
Ross Biddle is also better than rom with his well known valkserker build, which will be meta soon
ye it is indeed boring af. I just refuse to play with 30k ap-norn-guardian-roleplayers who backpaddel to death on skyhammer and who just want to do their pve dailies
Idk. It just says a lot about NA if a person is considered the best NA revenant ,allthough he was/is pretty inactive and even spent barely any time on this class in comparison to other NA revenants.
Ross Biddle, the legend, the creator of valkserker, the one and only,the meta-shifter and slayer of chronomancers, proofed again how strong he is in pvp, how great he is in theorey crafting and how warrior has to be played. His genius ideas will change the meta again ! Be aware!
He defeated a chronomancer…. a random chronomancer….in an unranked match…. with warrior…. OMG!
Lol, funny you didn’t even watch his video and yet you are giving an opinion on the subject. To correct you he did say the MM was good, and I quote " that’s how a ladder I supposed to work"
I guess now he is crying cause the ladder is so advocated for, didn’t keep as many player as he wanted from attaining legendary. But I’ll add more to the quote once i’ll have time
Worth a watch, what do you guys think? is the system favoring higher MMR players or are we all just refusing to admit we aren’t as good as we think?
I ll advise you to check his video.
I saw it live and nothing of this is changing anything of what I did say.
Maybe you should watch it again because it seems you clearly didn’t understand what he was saying. Otherwise you wouldn’t have written something like this
Sorry but I lmao at the bolded statement. So, is this the same Helseth who said people could carry their game, or the dude who tediously denied MMR hell, or the guy who believed that your teammates could, in no way. Impact the outcome of a game.
Wow funny how opinions are changing.
Well, I am fearing for your wellbeing Dominika. Because 1 min into the video, the Lord Helseth saI’d and I quote " I play every gane with a carry mindset" and , paraphrasing what he said " you have to carry every game if you want to win".
maybe check the context and not only 2 sentences that you are refering to your “qq I can’t get past Ruby cos mmr-hell and it’s impossible to carry” He never changed his opinion on that. He is refering to the 5v5 as a whole in general, comparing it with solo games where the outcome is determined by himself 100% – he is not addressing your qq-problem of season 2.
Those are two pairs of shoes.
Lol, funny you didn’t even watch his video and yet you are giving an opinion on the subject. To correct you he did say the MM was good, and I quote " that’s how a ladder I supposed to work"
I guess now he is crying cause the ladder is so advocated for, didn’t keep as many player as he wanted from attaining legendary. But I’ll add more to the quote once i’ll have time
Worth a watch, what do you guys think? is the system favoring higher MMR players or are we all just refusing to admit we aren’t as good as we think?
I ll advise you to check his video.
I saw it live and nothing of this is changing anything of what I did say.
Maybe you should watch it again because it seems you clearly didn’t understand what he was saying. Otherwise you wouldn’t have written something like this
Sorry but I lmao at the bolded statement. So, is this the same Helseth who said people could carry their game, or the dude who tediously denied MMR hell, or the guy who believed that your teammates could, in no way. Impact the outcome of a game.
Wow funny how opinions are changing.
Helseth never said that the matchmaking is good or anything on the contrary he said right at the start that legendary has pretty much 0 Prestige because everyone is able to become it easily while in other games only about 2% are able to reach the ‘prestige satate’. And exactly that is the reason why he made fun of those guys who claimed being stucked in ruby not being able to reach legendary. Simply because it was super easy if you are at least
decent.
So he never made any contradiction. He thinks that the matchmaking is bad but because of another reason,which people dont seem to understand
We are talking about a 5th spot not about replacing an ele, a druid, a revenant or a mesmer which is used in the meta comp anyways.
But ye burn warrior is probably the better alternative than shoutbow, it was just an example, tho.
Then stop saying warrior is not used in top tier pvp if the people do not know it yet.
lol
i know a thing is going to used in top tier if i see it, that’s the problem, there’s no stack rule, let’s say, rev, ele, mes, druid are going to be in the team, we can argue about druid, but there’s still necro, scraper, thief, dh that can take the last spot..and like seriously, what role a warrior can do better then these 4 classes? no roles
just because anet improved it’s survive by some, doesn’t make it a team wanted material, unless there’s some secret build that i don’t know of, which i seriously doubt, because the last patch changed nothing but improved some survive
You can say that it is used when you see it and you can say that it is not used when you dont see it in teams in the future . And since people are trying it out currently you cant make any statement yet. It is simply too early.
Shoutbow is as tanky as druid atm and provides also much better support than other classes you could take as 5th spot while burn warrior is a good alternative to scrapper and reaper.Those teams that dont have a thief main are trying warrior therefore.
exactly, i’m glad all the low end players enjoying the new warrior, but anet just doesnt get it. unless anyone prove me wrong with high end game play, until then warrior will be missing in pro league for the third season
wow.
Just that you know a lot of teams are trying out warrior in scrims at the moment because of the non stacking rule.
So pls stop calling others low end players and stop talking about high end gameplay if you have in fact no idea about what is going on. Its way too early to judge about the viability of warrior currently
If druid and ele gets nerfed for season 4, warrior will overtake the support role with shoutbow easily since it is not that much worse than druid and ele with reference to sustain and support. So in season 5 warrior will get adjusted then, I guess.
We have an IMMENSE potential to be part of the meta where we can bring support and dps, but, Tactics, is trash, shouts are trash, and banners are trash.
Ehh the old shoutbow with cleric and with the new adrenalin-trait is with reference to sustain and support only SLIGHTLY worse than ele and druid. And if anet would have nerfed both classes as they did with scrapper and reaper, this warrior build would have been meta 100%. Every top tier warrior is trying out those builds atm.
But ok. If Furajir says tactic traitline and shouts are trash so it has to be.
Now here we are, post patch, 3.5 years later and look at us, still garbo
Seems like he never has heard anything about hammbow or shoutbow meta, even Rampage warriors have been meta to a certain extent. Warrior kind of was meta since hs/cl-buff till HoT, mate.
No it is not wrong, it is my decision to consider sth. passive. And a trait that provides passive 7,5k heal over 15 seconds for a minimal action is in my eyes passive not active.
This isn’t science where I say 1+1 is not 2.
I think we are all aware even basic math eludes you. You can argue the differences between the two until you’re blue in the face.
For example, if I actively punch you in the face, and knock your teeth out, the active action is me punching you, the result is you missing teeth and drinking through a straw. There is always an effect resulting from an action.
I’m glad we can finally conclude this.
Ye and if you push the button for autopilot in your car you also actively drive simpley because you actively pushed the button for autopilot.
It just seems too hard for you to understand simple relations and context and you are unable to hold an easy discussion. But according to your previous forum posts I’m not even wondering about non sense posts like this.
You still didn’t reply anything to the fact that people on the one hand say that the necro and scrapper trait is passive 100% but on the other hand you say the warrior trait would be active – allthough it is the same design. The scrapper trait even got nerfed because so many people complained about this trait being too strong for a passive trait. So all people and anet are stupid for considering traits like that passive?
You just insist it would be active gameplay and everyone who thinks otherwise is dumb of course.
No it is not wrong, it is my decision to consider sth. passive. And a trait that provides passive 7,5k heal over 15 seconds for a minimal action is in my eyes passive not active.
This isn’t science where I say 1+1 is not 2.
Another one who didn’t read.
If you consider the warrior trait, the scrapper trait and the necro trait active then feel free to do it.
I don’t.
I consider a trait that provides a huge passive effect for a minimal action passive not active. I don’t consider something active only because you had to press a botton for it.
Just deal with it that there are people who don’t consider it active, what’s so hard on that?
When people said that the necromancer trait and scrapper trait were passive nobody replied that according to some definition of the word ‘passive’ it actually would be active – who cares…
I didn’t deny that you actively have to do sth for it. Not sure if you even read my post.
As I said, for the necro transfer trait you also have to do ACTIVELY a critical attack and the scrapper had to get ACTIVELY superspeed and swiftness for his heal-trait – still everyone – me included- considers this passive and not active.
Idk what’s so hard to understand that there are people outside who don’t consider everything active only because you have to press one botton for it.
A trait that heals you for 15 seconds about 500hp each second passively for using one skill once is in my opinion more passive than active – deal with it that there are opinions which are different from yours.
You ACTIVELY have to hit with an attack to PASSIVELY get the damage from it. I ACTIVELY use my heal skill to PASSIVELY get 10k plus change in healing. I ACTIVELY turn on the game to PASSIVELY play it. Everybody agrees with this, me included.
Idk what’s so hard to understand that there are people outside who don’t consider that what they’re trying to describe as passive is actually called a “heal over time” which has nothing to do with being an active out passive skill even if you get all that benefit over 15s.
A trait that heals you for 15 seconds about 500hp each second passively for using one skill once is in my opinion more getting a benefit over time than being incorrectly termed “passive” – deal with it that there is terminology which is likely more accepted than yours.
I did understand it the first time why you think it is active, I’m not disabled or something. You guys just don’t read.
The Scrapper has to get ACTIVELY swiftness and superspeed for his heal trait and the Necromancer has to make ACTIVELY a critical attack for his transfer trait.
EVERYBODY complained about those traits because it is a bad passive design.
And I am one of those persons who consider these traits rather passive than active because they provide a huge passive effect for a minimal action.
It is fine that you think otherwise ,everyone is allowed to have his own opinion about things. This isn’t science or something where only one result is correct.
So feel free to call the warrior trait a good active desing but then are the other traits which everyone complained about also active and not passive.
I would really appreciate it if you guys would read because then I am not in the need to repeat myself dozen of times.
Yes the mesmer build with a low cd phase retreat, one stunbreaker, random blocks,random evades and distortion is as vulnerable to cc as no other class.
Let’s play a game. Which skills are passive and which ones are active.
Ready kiddos?
Natural Vigor: 20% Endurance Regeneration
vs.
Thick Skin: Bonus toughness above hp threshold
vs.
Adrenal Health: Hitting an enemy with F1 in order to activate a regen effect.
Take your time. I know it’s hard.
They are all passive imo.
EVERYONE also considered the scrapper heal-trait passive allthough you had to do actively something for it. Just accept that there are people with different opinions.
Take your time. I know it’s hard to read before typing full of anger.
You don’t get to change the definition of a word just because you don’t agree with the actual one.
Again, how would you give War better sustain via traits without tying it to Bursts?
I don’t really care about any definition you may have found on wiki or somewhere else. I just replied to you because imo this trait is as passive as other traits that are considered passive by the big crowd.
That’s all well and good, but opinions can be wrong. Just because you state something is an opinion, it doesn’t mean you can’t be factually wrong. I can say that water freezes at 50 degrees Celsius, but stating that it’s just my opinion doesn’t somehow make my argument even remotely worthy of consideration. You guys are arguing over a definition. This isn’t opinion based. There’s no grey area. Is this a trait that triggers due to player input? Yes, so it’s not passive.
Well as I said you can consider it passive or active its up to you. But then has the scrapper trait and the necro transfer trait also to be considered active.
But people complained exactly about those traits for being passive and the warrior trait is from the design basically exactly the same -thats all I did say.
