Guild Wars 2

VideoGamermike.5813:

Alreayd made an edit to the dodge. But you guys are unintentionally not helping. this is the first dungeon in the game, and we have to keep track of an animation that lasts 2 seconds, time our dodges to it perfectly, or reflect, all with no warning of it. That’s a lot easier said than done, especially for someone not trained to notice that.

How are we unintentionally not helping? Everything that has been said in this thread is legit advice.

This entire game is about recognizing enemy animations and dodging it. Dungeons are exactly the place where this should be prevalent. You are saying that the game is hard because you are inexperienced. This has been true for everyone at one point. There is one solution: get experienced.

VideoGamermike.5813:

Then please Jzaku, enlighten me what we could have done. Please inform me how, in the veyr first dungeon, we could have resisted this guy pulling our entire party to oen spot and killing us in one whirl of his blade.

You realize this game has a dodge button, right?

VideoGamermike.5813:

dutch, we had a full veteran on our team who couldn’t give us any advice on what to do. the only inexperienced one was me. But please, explain how that lieutenant was ‘easy’, he killed our ENTIRE PARTY in one shot, every battle. the gravelings killed me if I fought them more than 3 to 1, heck, our lvl 80 guy was killed by 2 young bugs, and an elite bug.

Serious though, what could we have done? we tried every strategy I could find on the wiki and a google search, nothing worked even when we executed it perfectly.

A full veteran that couldn’t give any advice? Sounds like a contradiction to me. If a lvl 80 can’t kill 2 hatchlings and an elite graveling then he is just plain bad at the game.

The thing about Kholer is, he has a pull attack which deals great amounts of damage. This attack has a very long windup. You will see him holding back his sword and his hands will start glowing. After ~1.5 seconds you have to dodge to avoid the pull. This way you will avoid all damage from him. Now he just became one of the easiest bosses out there (especially with tanky gear).

It sounds like you just had an inexperienced/bad party. AC is considered one of the easiest dungeons by the people who run all dungeons often and many people even solo it.

In the future consider bringing elementalists for conjured weapons (FGS/Icebow) which are very strong against burrows.

Stacking in the corner for spider queen is actually a good tactic, because she will not use her poison field if everyone stays in melee (which deals huge amounts of damage). You can still dodge her attacks, if you are having trouble make sure to dodge the bite (she moves her body back and then lunges forward) and have condition removal ready for when she does her immobilize spray.

Skipping Kholer is not an exploit, he is an optional boss and you can skip him by just simply walking past him.

DonQuack.9025:

I dont trust my pug teams to be good. I do trust them to do the bare minimum. Or rather I trust them to enjoy being carried by myself or other ele’s.

@above

I have yet to EVER need the Kholer waypoint. EVER. I mean once past him there is no need to go back… Maybe its cuz I am ele. Unless I play poorly It is impossible to mess up anything but the the King.

In p1 you can use the wp after the burrow event, in p2 after the trap event. It saves time on walking and that time cancels out the time needed to kill Kholer.

Dalanor.5387:

haviz.1340:

Yaki.9563:

And you’re wanting them to dodge? Fact is, you can kill all the bosses in AC wearing berserkers gear and not pressing anything but autoattack, without dropping below 100% energy. Kholer should be required as he seems to be the only remotely challenging boss, though I’m sure eventually someone would find an exploit and claim it’s legit then everyone would just autoattack stacking next to a certain pillar, or down a couple steps, or on top of a certain rock.

kitten running through the trash is more of a PUG killer than the actual bosses. You actually have to have stability or keep up with your group while moving.

You have to show me those pro moves.

Seconded this request. Or just an excuse why you are unable to do it.

Please make a video showing you and your party members doing nothing but autoattacking spider queen. Thanks!

Lian Olsam.9541:

i see for everycontent “lf full zerker” and it works better then other…. why someone should chose one class or another? only for a different mode to do dps… there is no other differences… i’d like to see MORE differences, atm it’s a game for kids, i dont understand how is possible do u like play in a corner and skip contents in every dungeon… where is the fun? where is the mechanics? where is the differences between classes? boon and cc it’s a joke if at the end everyone have to do the same stuff…. just chose the best dps in the game and run the dungeon… they destory trinity, i love that, but now we are all dps and it sucks…. but the most important things is the mechanism… we dont have any different mechanism, its all about corners, max dps, skip mobs, and repeat…. like o told other games give a purpose to any classes, and dungeon “force” player to play smarter with different gear and different roles, a ranged one can really range some guys and make easyer the life of melee, “tricky” classes like thief and mesmer should be protected when other defend him to trick some machine etc etc…. i’m asking a deeper game, atm it’s a hack’n’slash and it was suppose to be a mmorpg

Last boss was done by Wethospu pre patch already, just not the rest.

Esreyr.6304:

noobgood.8762:

Esreyr.6304:

I can think of exploits such as the group getting to the last boss then splinting into different groups to sell the run. I’m not sure this would be a huge problem or what a cure for this would be.

So people who sell paths could reproduce the same instance over and over again? What is this I don’t even.

Thanks for echoing the problem which I identified in my own post. So helpful.
I brought it up for a discussion; not to sneak it under the radar.

Maybe it isn’t even a problem. Maybe all those Arah dungeon runs would drop from 6-8 gold to 1 gold if everyone can become an instance owner.

I do think my suggestion has some merit; but with flaws. Discus.

It wouldn’t even be about selling anymore then… just pick a path with the easiest last boss, form a party of 5, go to the last boss, kick 1 guy, 4 man the last boss, collect 26s + other stuff, leave dungeon, invite kicked guy back into party, enter instance, kick 1 guy, finish last boss, etc etc etc. Basically an infinite loop of rewards.

No Pulse.2967:

CptAurellian.9537:

Nick.6972:

Easiest and laziest fix to AI: if AoE -> move out of AoE.

So the boss is pretty much supposed to be perma-dodging, since almost any attack in this game is AoE?

Not dodging, just moving. They could even copypasta it from centaurs or something.

So every boss would turn into ‘run around in circles and spam 1 till he dies’?

Wow, nice work. Definitely thought this wasn’t possible solo.

Could you explain the tactic you used at the traps? I think it has something to do with Detha not being in her usual spot which makes the event not fail, but I’m not sure.

“You would think that out of all the people me, Dontain, WoodenPotatoes and MattVisual are least likely to get hacked because we are popular youtubers that give free promotion for the game and help the community.”

Does he really think those hackers from China target specific people? Or does he think ArenaNet hacked his email, changed his GW2 pass, then deleted his characters and then aided him in the recovery of his account over multiple weeks? What the hell…

No Pulse.2967:

haviz.1340:

SkylightMoon.1980:

People have kind of missed the point of the post and started thinknig its about builds and what not when it was really about “The same stacking strategies or mob skipping is the majority of paths. Pretty much the average dungeon nowadays is pulling the last boss into the middle of the wall so he doesnt hit you and then pressing 1 while you afk.”

Which bosses behave like that?

The champion knight in TA.

Which is clearly bugged as he stops attacking altogether, it’s not just that he can’t hit you. Any other boss pulled this way doesn’t stop attacking (see pretty much every dungeon in the game). The only valid example I can think of is the Ooze in Arah p1.

Syn Sity.5826:

Instabilities seem more like an extra nuisance than extra challenge. They just need to make some piece of content where the punishment for failure is actually failure.

Yes, that’s what I’d love to see as well. Right now most of the challenge in GW2 can be negated by just bashing your face into it until you get lucky and get it done. Especially now with no armor repair costs. If wiping meant getting kicked out, things would be a lot harder (ofcourse rewards will have to be compensated).

Absolute fastest is something we’ll probably never find out, there’s always little things you can speed up by changing up your team comp/tactics. In GW1 they are now getting close to maximum speed and that game has been out for like 8 years (although there were meta resets ofcourse, like in gw2). http://www.gwscr.com is your best bet for now, it shows the currently fastest times ever achieved for dungeons/fractals/other records (solo’s and stuff).

Trahearne?

Molch.2078:

You can use the watchwork portals, too. But then you need, well, watchwork portals :P

Yeah I used to do that, but it was a pain crafting them every time and it had a cost, obviously.

I had only seen videos using either shoutheal with clerics or bear form before… if that isn’t the case: my bad.

Hey guys, since we get free retraits now I decided to mess around a bit and I managed to do orbs solo without bear form or clerics armor!

Check it out: http://www.twitch.tv/dutchiezz/c/4084121

Today I soloed Arah p3 and was selling it over the LFG. I did not use any exploits, it was completely legit. After receiving gold from 3 players and waiting for the 4th, someone joined my party and merged it with another group in the LFG, destroying my instance, my daily reward and the gold I would have made from selling the path all gone. About an hour of work reduced to nothing.

This has been going on for ages, people griefing and exploiting other players with the LFG system. We have seen devs acknowledging and discussing this before but there is still no sign of a fix. What gives, Anet? Do you like your players to waste hours of work because some guy decided it would be fun to kick you out of your instance? And this doesn’t even affect sellers only. Countless of regular players looking for “one more at second boss” have been kicked out of their instance for no good reason.

There have been plenty of video’s showcasing how it works but here is mine from 10 minutes ago just to make sure you know what I’m talking about: http://www.twitch.tv/dutchiezz/c/4058748

When I do p2 on mesmer I activate the patrol after Abom so they start walking, then step back, wait for them to stop and just walk by with stealth and they don’t teleport to you.

wo omg so pro i hope to git as gud as u 1 day!! plz teach mastur’!!1 i pay! 5g!

How can you ping gear after exiting to desktop?

I mentioned dragonite in fractals in the CDI and Chris said twice he liked the idea and he suggested it to the rewards team. Still having (probably misplaced) hope that this will make it through.

Cool idea, never gonna happen.

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CureForLiving.5360:

Well in general I’m against anything that’s leads to exclusion and elitism, but even I have to admit that when the description says 80 it’s a bit unnerving to see some low levels in there… I guess this makes me a bad person

This makes you a person who expects other people to have the ability to read.

It’s a good idea, and with anti-griefing in place it would be a perfect system, but it’s never gonna happen because Anet hates dungeons.

noobgood.8762:

Never again world bosses in small coordinated groups! Embrace the megaserver system!

“Hey Colin, what should we do in the next patch to kitten over elitist zerker noobs even more?”
“Nerf crit damage! That’ll show em!”
“Sounds good but it’s not really enough… what do they like?”
“…min-maxing? Ascended gear?”
“That’s right! And what do they hate…”
“Zerging content with nobrain 1111 spam and 5 FPS!”
“Why don’t we just make that required to get ascended gear! That’ll drive all those elitist scumbag exploiting raging gear checking death-of-the-game zerker players away!”

tbh worst scrub eu

IvanTheGrey.2941:

Solo’d Lupi for the first time yesterday. Danced around my apartment irl.

Gratz
I remember my first solo, felt epic when I finally killed him after 3 days of dying!

Rumpo.7832:

So I was buying arah story the other day, then this happened…

Check the bottom of the previous page scrub

I have on my warrior 3 ascended greatswords and 3 ascended axes, with force/night/undead slaying. Offhand has accuracy or energy. This covers me in pretty much every case (if it is day, I do lose out on 5% damage because I do not have slaying sigils but there are just too many enemy types). My other characters all have force/undead or force/night, depending on which dungeons I use them for. It’s not really optimal but it’s the most reasonable thing you can do.

P.S.: If you are really getting kicked for not running the correct sigil I don’t think you would want to play with the people in that group anyway (speaking about dungeon groups, I don’t know how it is in organized WvW/PvP/whatever you can think of).

dlonie.6547:

Casmurro.9046:

ANet is always trying to fix arah. They closed some jumping puzzles, fixed some safe spots on alphard, then buffed alphard, then added some instant reset zones on alphard, they buffed brie, and so on.

They still need to fix the underwater exploit, at least the one from AC p1 got fixed.

Or just make the required bosses actually um… required. Aside from p2 with a blink and a snorkel, that would fix all the other skips.

nvm, too hard. Just keep adding walls that we can jump over.

Yeah, let’s go with that.

I don’t think you can kill lupi from underwater so that would put an end to path 2 exploiting.

Just pugged a level 18 fractals cuz bored. It’s amazing how easy that is when you can complete grawl shaman with 2 cleric guards and a literal 1200 range longbow/bear bearbow.

How could they possibly not be safe to use?

Are you NA or EU? I will be running p4 at reset on EU.

Swagger.1459:

DigitalKirin.9714:

Thank you, ANet, for finally addressing this hot-button topic. I know it’s been on the minds of many players how unfair this situation is, and I’m glad you’re finally delivering a justly deserved nerf. Don’t let naysayers deter you.

Seriously, it boggles the mind how long these people have dominated the scene. Some people may say, “This is an undeserved nerf!” Or they may say, “We’ll keep going, nerf or not!” But you, ANet, say, “Nay, the nerfing’s just begun!”

After all, abusing the mechanics of the game this way… it’s practically – dare I say it? – an exploit. And oh how they exploit. Can you imagine how new players feel when they come across these elitists? Oh! The shouting, the gnashing of teeth. Saying what to kill and what not to kill? What ever happened to playing how you want? Yes, these exploiters have had their heyday. And now it’s time to move on. So thank you, ANet, for bringing this welcome change and a fresh breath of balance.

Now we can get back to playing the game as intended. For fun. Just how I know you want it to be played, ANet. Killing everything in our path and not just leapfrogging from one prizebag of HPs to the next. Thank you for fixing these Champ Train exploits.

I don’t care either way, but using the the word exploit is pretty lol worthy.

It’s pretty lol worthy when that word is used to describe the use of berserker gear in dungeons but that happens all the time too.

Bots solo arah? Did I read that right?

I’m sorry, what is your point exactly?

Seabreeze.8437:

I was confused about the OP’s intent as well. Go figure.

That was the point of the entire post.

Cries Of Sorrow.5864:

Watch out guys! It’s badarka’s troll account again!!

obscure

but i’ll allow it

They haven’t fixed it. There is something wonky with changing fractals while the owner is outside which transfers instance ownership or something, I’m not sure on the details.

IvanTheGrey.2941:

will ignore dungeons even more

Is that even possible?

Natsu Dragneel.1625:

feels lower, I really couldn’t give any numbers, but it definitely feels lower.

Also, the dredge rate seems way higher.

5 dredge in the last 7 days, I’m seriously crying.

Dredge chance did get higher with the new tier system.

Right right right.

I still don’t know what build to take for solo lvl 50 mai.

You can still sell me story dungeons any time guys!!

Yep it’s bugged. No way to get it (unless the bug bugs I guess).