Had a frustrating night. Between the FA thief abusing C&D on our EB keep to keep it contested all night, the eles clearing Mendon’s siege by jumping to glitchy spots on the wall, and FA players spamming /laugh and jumping on corpses in a most unsportsmanlike way, I can safely say this is the least fun WvW match I’ve encountered (and I was on henge for a while). I’ll see the rest of ’ya Yaks on the next reset night.
Yeah this thief was doing the same thing to DB the night(for me) before for a good 4-5 hours. So I went and contested the FA keep and SM WP. I could only manage that for 1/2 an hour before I got bored. If I am on and this is happening to us again in DB do not plan to use your WP’s in Eternal FA. I’ll exploit the wall c&d as well…
Magic word there is EXPLOIT.
Contesting a Keep is hardly anything. Any class can do it and it’s a legitimate strategy to block fast reinforcements. Whether it’s a thief or not it doesn’t matter, anyone just has to tap on the gate to contest it for 2.5mins.
You want a true exploit? How about explaining how you guys are able to shoot arrow carts from all the way outside the Keep? Killed 2 of my superior arrow carts so I had to place it farther away.
This happens on a daily basis from DB as well. But you don’t hear anyone from us whining about it.
Do you really think I’m complaining about contesting the WP? Doing this is key to a lot of strategies. I was referring to cloak and dagger on the walls being an exploit(since the devs. have said it was one) this issue is a moot point since the update anyways.
It would be nice if there was an option in the player “report” function for exploiter’s/hackers. all i can choose now are bad names, abusive language, botting, scamming(what ??? implement a p2p trade function) and selling gold.
is this thread made once a day?
I like the 25 person swords. Thanks Anet. Just wanted my opinion in here. It encourages defense and breaks up the karma train.
This Stone Mist cap goes out to Vegan Tofu from Blood Pact. Sorry you weren’t here for it.
You really think IOJ played well that week? (I was there, and some members of my guild were pulling 14 hour shifts) I think you may be seeing the past through rose colored glasses.
ND went to SOS from IOJ. They were instrumental in IOJ being as high a tier as they were for so long. They were the key that got IOJ to T1 that 1 week IOJ got face rolled. Wherever ND went that new home is much stronger for it.
I have missed ND for quite some time since my guild moved from IOJ. I loved my morning karma train to lvl my alts.
Arrows from Arrow carts arc over walls.(or through ceilings, there is a hint in there for you)
L2P
I’d say fix the c/d wall exploit and make the 10 minute afk timeout have no workaround when you are dead. I personally have no problem sitting on a mesmer’s body for 10 minutes. But once the 10 minutes are up and the body is still there I get really annoyed.
As far as a thief/mesmer combo simply hiding in a keep while still alive, I say GG, sweep better.
I like stealthing around the supply depots and npc’s. I also like using siege that is build to cloak and dagger. I never use walls to cloak. Good thieves dont have to.
“The fact so many thieves are horrible at PvE is proof that this class is really not all that great”
this is stupid. My bleed/life drain tanky build is almost unkillable in pve.
I see plenty of everything but Necromancers and Engineers.
6 out of 8. Not perfect, but decent.
You sir are not fighting FA. Try portal bombing them and see what happens when you get 15 wells stacked on your assault before you even exit the portal.
:*(
I would be happy if FA went to tier 2 but I am afraid we are stuck with them for a while. But even if they move up and TC moved down to join us it will be pretty much the same deal. Same goes for you guys, if you move down to tier 4 you will dominate and the match will get stale. Both DB and Mag are in a pretty crappy spot. Overpowered servers above us and underpowered below.
Do what we did. Join forces and create Maguumabrand.
last week we tried to coordinate a push on FA bl with the goons, you know, to add to our ppt and reduce FA, maybe make the match competitive. The goons decided to go to the forums here and say how appalled they were at the thought. It also doesn’t help when we do try pushing FA bl that the goons decide to camp the hole in the wall of FA bay preventing us from running supply, or reinforcing.
I am not saying that magoomba and FA are in cahoots, just that the goons are vultures.
:P
edit: I think magoomba will roll t4. You guys are too good for T4 but IMO not dedicated enough for T3
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I play for the thrill. Im the d/d thief surfing the rear of your zerg trying not to drown while picking off those who get hurt by my teammates you have tunnel vision on.
slice slice slice you’re dead.
I heard home was the only place to access the internet.
ya i heard that to and then had to deal with pings of over 2k……
Frontier communications can bite me
A bunch of MAG wants to go down a tier…so they can have smaller fights, even though you are going to end up rolling over Tier 4 if you drop.
I doubt it. Mag has no idea how to win.
History doesn’t reflect that. Mag destroyed Yaks the last time they played. I can only imagine that if Mag drops, Yaks will go up…and Mag will be stuck with the servers that lost badly to Yaks….a server that couldn’t reach 100k the last time they played against Mag.
Eh, that was Mag 2.0. We’re more like Mag 1.5 now.
Edit: score update?
How bad was your exodus when free transfers were finished?
DBs (being represented by Blood Pact) early morning 15 golem rush did not work on FA. Oh, and it has a funny ending.
What were those golems doing in the middle of the field? Why didn’t they waypoint away when they saw you enter the field? I understand you had stealth, but you didn’t the whole time. Why come from the road?
Where are the Mesmers ?
LOL " Why didn’t they waypoint away when they saw you enter the field?"
culling
“Where are the Mesmers”
I think the last mesmer in the portal chain was the last bag you picked up in the video from where you ran over him. :o
Let us refocus on the op topic. This is about WvW, not sPvP or solo roaming. If you are solo roaming condition/survivability builds are great, I loved my bleed/lifedrain tank build on my thief. I could 1v2 and 1v3 pretty easily unless they had an abundance of cleanses(guardian) Especially in lower tiers people run less cleanses in WvW when roaming.
BUT, when actually playing with more than 1 party of people condition builds handicap your teams DPS. (random cleanses i mentioned above)
Score update please
Thanks!
On a side note, does anyone know why when my name was quoted it says kitten.3178 instead of my real name?
I can answer this. your account name is a racial slur for jewish people. Are you really not aware of this?
I would like to compliment Eviana, a new commander on DB who was an instrumental piece in the puzzle that was the defense of the hills last night from that assault in DBBL. S/he was coordinating supply runs and pushing against those FA invaders on the outer wall trying to treb our inner. good try FA.[BT]
<3 from the thief who was dancing between your red circles on the outer wall.
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So this permastealth has been around for at least 3 months that I have known of. His technique could use a little improvement. Staying inside towers is easy with cloak and dagger and initiative regen on stealth. just keep hitting workers or other players or siege and always be on the move. Then you save your CD’s on shadow refuge and smoke bomb to rez the mesmer.
Also Evalana, I believe we do have the right to complain about them here if we want to (with evidence). You try spending a lot of gold on upgrades to have those losers snipe fully upgraded stuff, or destroy all your superior siege.
There should be nothing wrong pointing it out with evidence on here.
im beating the mods. you dont have that right buddy.
“Also, if you witness suspected behavior in game that could be violations of the in-game Rules of Conduct, please do not post these reports on the forum, as we’ll have to remove them. Any in-game misbehavior should be reported via the in-game report tool or through the ticketing system to our Customer Support Team with all required details such as screenshots, videos etc… Both methods will help.”
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/WvW-sub-forum-rules-reminder
pvp.2758 has a good solution steepledhat…..
In the F&F update you changed the skin of the mystic spike dagger. I want it back to its old skin. The new one has a blue tinge to the weapon and blue lightning effects, but I made mine because of the red lightning and color scheme. I could have found an easier and cheaper(100 skill points and 60 mystic coins for the pair) way of getting the blue version of this if I even wanted it, which I dont.
This has made my condition build unplayable :P
(I know this is all a little ridiculous, but I liked the daggers I chose to make)
Isn’t that the Drgn who would spam for people on all servers from inside wvw?
yes it is
white damage>condition damage in WVW. In WVW when running condition damage and your enemy is with a group that has a guardian or warrior or ele or engineer(lol) or necro and they are within visible distance, your target will probably cleanse those conditions by accident. There are so many ways to cleanse in a group the you shouldnt have any conditions on you TBH most of the time.
You cant cleanse white damage.
is blarrgh on FA?…or totn and big lady?…
Blrrgh is on FA. Hel (formerly Totn) is now on SoR.
thank you
is blarrgh on FA?…or totn and big lady?…
With the Thief Clusterbomb, the travel speed is so slow that unless you are dropping it on top of you the enemy has moved on already not even needing to dodge roll…
Please speed up the travel time if you are going to nerf the damage…
I’ve been having a lot of fun battling Dragonbrand this week. They seem like an honorable group. I haven’t seen any of them using hacks or exploits like other competitors.
I am going to keep this vague so i do not get another infraction, I posted a screen shot of an opposing server’s player hacked into one of our towers to this thread. It was removed quickly and i got an infraction for server assassination.
This better not get me another infraction.
So you are saying all us thieves who use stealth are cheaters(even if we dont go d/d) because Anet cant fix their problems? Same with mesmers and their portals? You mention portals and culling(stealth) and in the next paragraph you bring up speed and damage hacks. These are 2 different subjects entirely. One is bad coding and the other is intentional hax.
“turtle balls”… are great tactics with small groups, but only when combined with good movement and using high ground. You only have to turtle for a few seconds to stack boons then you can spread out and spread out the damage from aoe. the counter to this with the big turtle ball is to always focus fire by calling targets. If the larger turtle ball is not doing this your smaller group can wipe them with your own focus fire or stall them for a while. Stalling and enemy helps stop their momentum, and if 5-10 players can stall a 30+ person zerg at a 5 point supply camp for even a few minutes it can be the difference between successfully defending another point or losing it.
But this isn’t really what you are asking. I read your question more as, How does an unorganized group(even if it is larger) defeat a smaller enemy group that uses tactics and synergies and strategies without siege? The answer to that question is, you, don’t
So we all hate when both opposing servers focus on ours. It sucks. But the reality is, the only team who should be the focus of a double team is the first place server. If the 3rd place team sneaks a soft tower or supply camp in eternal or caps their corner of your borderland for 20 PPT at the timer that is not an assault or double team, its point management. Same goes for the 2nd place capping a few soft targets of their own from third. I see a lot of complaining about this. I’m kinda sick of it.
They ported to their keep in their BL to supply up. Then they built them right outside the spawn in the target BL and ported them to wp to hide their numbers.
I also hear they move single file for the same reason…
p/p thieves only have 2-3 stealths available to them right meow… You were probably blinded by number 5 and projectile combos.
You also realize that the mesmer is one of those classes you are complaining about, right?
Thank you for the kind words Noice. I didnt want to single any of the longtime guilds out for fear of offending by omission
I am going to go out on that limb and also include [KD] on the new additions list to the server.
Ehmry Bay is looking for new talent to join us in WvW.
Recently Ehmry Bay has had an influx of like minded WvW dedicated guilds transfer to help enhance coverage in WvW. With the welcoming attitude and cooperation from the established community the possibilities are endless for what levels this server can attain as evidenced by the decimation this week of our opponents. The population cap is still open, and the time is now, for guilds to bring their whole group over and truly be part of building a competitive top tier server.
The infrastructure is already here for Ehmry Bay to elevate itself to higher level’s of competition, the only missing piece is a few more WvW dedicated guilds to populate the assorted battlegrounds. You are welcome to visit the Ehmry Bay Forum at http://www.ehmry.com/ . Ehmry Bay also sports a public teamspeak server for coordination as well as offering any guild which chooses to use it a private channel.
Coverage over multiple time zones is what we are building now. We currently have a good coverage base ranging from Brazilian prime time through East and West coast NA prime time, through Oceanic prime time, as well as the starting of Euro coverage. This gives us an unprecedented chance to close up the gaps we face and make a true run for top tier competition. This addition of new organized guilds to a truly welcoming server would only make your game experience that much more enjoyable.
For more information about Ehmry Bay or about transferring your guild and coordinating in WvW feel free to contact myself in game or Grimaldi.8532. If you are looking to Raid in WvW 4 times a week in a strategic and coordinated manner, and outside of those times always have a guild presence in WvW, please visit Blood Pact’s website at http://bpgw2.enjin.com/recruitment .
Eithinan[BP]
Squad Leader
Dragon Battalion
