Guild Wars 2

Marijan.4175:

Would you like to explain why it’s bad for WvW? I think how well a specific kind of gear performs in WvW is dependend on the situation, but I doubt that you could be more versatile than with this gear.

Builds for WvW aren’t about getting the most versatile stats, but about getting stats that strengthen the build that you are currently using to its full potential. This gear does not do that for every known build that i know of, and in essence, while being “versatile”, is more of a jack of all trades but master of known.

TL;DR – it’s just not good. You give up too much.

Welcome to the puzzle. This is my domain and I thank Anet for giving me a hefty boost in heavy bags last week and continuing into this week. I hope you bring numbers, because I have been having such a great farm this week.

Get rid o the hobo sacks or redesign them!

Ya, other then farming, it’s pretty kittenty.

AntiGw.9367:

Everyone got some achievement points they didn’t have earlier. No need to be spiteful about it.

I didn’t. Still sitting at 4830.

This gear is bad for WvW,. I would be interested in this just to have some damage and also have some magic find, but overall not on my list of priorities.

Yes there would be fewer server. I would say the population would be cut down by 30% or so, leaving a lot of servers at medium/high.

Katzyn.9703:

The TC who was zoom hacking in EB’s NW tower and Hills is absolutely pathetic. I should have suicided so I could get a good look at your guild and report you.

All servers do this. Technically it is not a hack, it’s taking advantage of certain viewing angles in windowed and tri-screen monitor setups. To report something for what anet has knowingly allowed and has done nothing to change certainly would tell you that they do not care, no?

So filing a report would be filing a false report, which could be bad for you…

For WvW based guilds, 100% rep is a must. Most WvW guilds that don’t require full rep decay, as members tend to stop participating in that guild, and spend more time in other guilds. Exceptions are made for bank guilds.

Finally something to do other then EB JP. I found a nice spot on EB where I can sit and relax, and and look for the endangered Kaineg species. Kaineg watching is a hobby of mine.

I am so hung over after last night. Leading the late night mag crew was probably fun. Wish I could remember most of it.

Making money the maguuma way.

This week has been very fun, and very profitable!

Middzz.1490:

I dont think any server has guilds that focus SOLELY on WvW.

I don’t think you have a good understanding of all the major WvW guilds on TC. Talk to TSL or ZN and ask them if they PvE. You might hear the sound of them throwing up after asking that question.

It’s fine, get some healing power if you want to buff up the hp per tick. It’s meant as a HoT. Your main heal is meant as a direct heal.

MrSilver.5269:

I for one am already looking forward to next week. I’d love to get another crack at one of the Tier 1 servers so that we can have some competition. The thing that I am most proud about TC is that we don’t quit and whine on the forums when we are outclassed by better servers. We just dust ourselves off, regroup, and get back out there.

I REALLY miss the days when there were three servers going at it all week long and the final score wasn’t decided until the last hours of the match. Since the new match-up system, with the exception of one week, TC has been paired with lesser competition that just can’t put up a fight, and it is killing many people’s motivation to play.

Please Arena net, give us JQ just to see how we do!!!!

I think a JQ/BG/TC would be optimal for TC.

fadswaffer.5140:

Calvin go back to your own thread geez man.

Probably got left behind on the latest bandwagon and is now trying to find what server he is supposed to be on.

what kind of crap box are you playing on?

Had a lot of fun in the puzzle today. Interesting to see it from Mags POV.

The QQ about the puzzle is funny.

You will not get free badges, and you will not get free siege.

If you are a PvE’er that sucks at PvP, tough cookies.

If you call yourself a PvP’er, you shouldn’t be complaining. If you were on the server that was camping, you should be grateful that they are stopping people from getting potentially free rams/AC’s/ballista’s/treb/golems.

Kaimick.5109:

I Just portaled my entier guild to the top of the Jumping puzzle, as of 2:05 PST. It still works I would like to see this Moderator post and or statement syaing it is a bannable offense, cause if so then they should remove the ability to work in there.

Honestly it just sounds like some PvE’er that wanted the Event Cache ( that you didn’t need anyhow ) and got farmed.

Also no it does not add to the Map population of EB that is why they made it seperate from EB, and you have to reque once you go into the JP.

I’ve been seeing a lot of this lately. There are plenty of other cache’s that a PvE’er can reach with no effort. Sorry something takes a little work in this game.

This matchup thread is one of the best we’ve ever had this early in the week.

10/10 would read again.

This matchup thread is one of the best we’ve ever had this early in the week.

10/10 would read again.

This will be an interesting week. Although after some reading, Sea of Sorrows does seem to a proper name for the server.

Don’t take this week so seriously. Take time to review tactics, run some small scale groups, and just have fun.

Chin up SoS, it’ll get better sooner or later.

Anyone who spams unload on someone without looking at their boons and checking for retal deserves to die.

Furiousbeard.7602:

That’s so awful you guys.

You are already completely pounding us in to the dirt and then stuff like that happens to add insult to injury.

Then we get spawn camped on top of it.

Really shameful. I was looking forward to this match-up and now its complete garbage in my mind. The apology from you guys doesn’t make up for the other 30 players that enjoyed the reward and essentially gloated.

I hope you enjoy the rest of the week. At this point there really isn’t much left for you guys to prove.

In case you want to see it from our side, I’ll be posting the video for you shortly.

GG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPle7wHtF6c

It looks like he glitched into the tower, but he also instantly ran back up the stairs and out from inner based on the video you posted. I was in a raid taking that keep of yours the other day. We were attacking the water gate, and some how while I was melee’ing the door I glitched through. I also did what this guy did and ran up the small flights of stairs and jumped out. Not sure if all doors are bugged, or just that keep. Glitching through gates happens, and it isn’t always intentional.

And even though Odinzu was leading the zerg at that time of the video, he made the right choice in not participating and condemning the spawn camp. Even without a commander tome up, there will always be people that group up and do stuff like this. It’s not like I haven’t seen FA do the same thing in our past matches. So while I understand it sucks, at that point, instead of feeding them, the eb group could have hoped maps and the trolls would have gone back under the bridge.

Hickeroar.9734:

Silke.1695:

iCryptik.1496:

I’m getting an uptick of hate messages from FA in /p.

Keep it coming, I love the laughs.

Do you need a re-supply of grumblecakes to send to your admirers Cryptic?
“Say it with cookies, fresh from the Tarnished Coast Ovens, with Luffs!”

This sounds like a much better solution….

Keep a supply of cookies and just mail one to trolls when they party add you. :P

But I want to keep all the cookies to myself! I’ll let them have the yak poo poo platter.

I’m getting an uptick of hate messages from FA in /p.

Keep it coming, I love the laughs.

The change was needed to balance class roles in dungeons. Warriors are still extremely viable. If you think otherwise, I doubt any sort of common sense reasoning will work on explaining balance to you.

Hey, I’m currently getting locked out on gem purchases. I tried on my credit card, and that didn’t work. I then tried on my debit card and that didn’t work. I purchased gems a few days ago ankitten ot sure why it’s not letting me purchase gems >.<

Thanks for any help.

Because they want to make money.

The armor is for looks, so really, it’s just a vanity item.

Raven.9603:

complain about anytime stealth constantly on the forums, less Anet get complacent and think CnD or BP+HS are acceptable to the community at large.

limit the amount of incombat stealth Anet /shakes fist.

IMO a better solution is to make a thief a thin silhouette that you can see but can’t target when he gets just outside of backstab range.

Or, if you’re pro like I’ve seen a few people do and also do myself, watch your combat log, it shows when you hit the thief

I don’t know what armor/build you’re using, that could be one issue. What weapons are you using? That could be another.Are you time you’re shouts together to get the most out of your boons? Are you using Tome of Courage or Renewed Focus? Are you watching for his blind fields?

These are some of the things you need to think about. Feel free to send me a PM and I can answer any questions you may have.

Yarrr, KN lads, why so many o’ ye be runnin from fights? I be finding so many o’ ye out ’n ’da open ’n ye run back ’ta ye keeps ’wit yer tell between ye legs.

FA, I be enjoying ‘da fights. Glad ’ta be fightin a server ’wit players that don’t be runnin from a fight.

Alas, the theories that RE be spyin on KN. That be makin me laugh quit o’ bit. We be havin sentries ‘ta be following ’yer movements. Besides, it be not hard ’ta find ye, since there be so few o’ ye lads.

I know, but I also know that they said that a while ago. Still not sure why, after several updates, they haven’t added in the last few sets of stats they are missing.

My guardian build involves magi rings and accessories. I finally saved up some laurels and went to go purchase an item with magi stats and…well, there isn’t any.

I wonder why we don’t have an ascended item for every exotic stat combo available.

I’m so haaaaaaaaaaaaaaapy.

Yar, I can’t wait ‘ta get in tonight ’wit ye landlubbers ’n scalliwags! I be waitin ’fer a matchup ’wit FA, and we ’dun be gettin ’r ol’ friends KN too? ’Dis be a good week!

grave of hearts.7830:

Sigh cryptic show some effort
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D3vD9Yht6I

Wake me up when you refine your trolling style

I saw these at the store on sale and picked a few up for ya.

Had some fun fighting KoMe this week. You guys keep coming no matter what.

grave of hearts.7830:

Usagi.4835:

grave of hearts.7830:

Usagi.4835:

grave of hearts.7830:

Your server (tc) spawncamped 12 defenders with 150 people so the other 150 get veloka,if the active commander that momment didnt had a simple drop of shame to call them back then its too late to make them feel shame now.
You noticed the long silence from SoS over the past hours on this forum,that is our answer on what we are thinking about TC.

Yes, because TC is comprised of only 150 people. You can keep picking at straws trying to come up with ways to paint TC out to be the ‘big bad server’ you believe it is.

Nobody asked for this matchup; yeah, you’re frustrated but to try and smear TC because of it is pretty sad. Especially when it’s on multiple occasions from the same number of posters. I’ve been in EB and all of the other maps. And it is not a coordinated attempt to spawn camp. It is people taking your keep and then pushing you back to spawn and then moving onto the next objective.

This is getting soooo old. Most boring, overmilked discussion ever.

Imagine if it was a coordinated attempt,you would had siege hitting directly the spawn……oh wait…..isnt that a treb hitting the spawn?
Naw must had been my imagination along with the catas and carts.
Also didnt know there was another objective since tc had been holding the entire eb since yesterday.
And if you think i am sad for saying the facts,what does your “we didnt ask for this matchup but we are fing you up because you cant do anything about it” excuse makes you look like?
If you want to stop the TC bashing for what they do,better stop locking horns with me and start talking sense to your teammates.
Also if you had readed the first posts mentioning the spawncamp,you would had noticed its not me pointing on them but TC.
Now if you dont mind,back off.

Please show me exactly where somebody said “We didn’t ask for this matchup but we are kittening you up because you can’t do anything about it.” I’m genuinely curious as to where you got this nugget of information. Oh right, must have been your imagination.

I was in EB today and I didn’t see that so I can’t verify whether or not it didn’t happen. I don’t think I’ve ever come across someone so vocal about it as you… And it’s a bit much to expect me to just talk it out with everyone else on the map and expect them to listen. I don’t believe it has happened but if it has, you should probably find some guild tags and ask to speak to the relevant guild officers.

And I’m not going to try and negotiate with you because that’s a pretty immature stance to take; it’s a two-way street. Respect comes from both parties. I don’t need to kowtow to your demands in the hopes that you’ll stop being snarky about TC.

You’re perfectly welcome to do whatever you like though, as am I, so please don’t try and tell me what to do.

The treb is still there,the carts are still there the catapult is still there.
You can go see for yourself.
Its not today,its been since yesterday.
And honestly there is nothing left to be done,it just shouldnt had happened in the manner it happened.
I find it pointless to sit and contact all guilds hoping they will put a leash on theyr morons,that is a wasted effort when they didnt had told them to behave beforehand.
As far between me and you i dont like your way of justifying everything with a “we didnt choose this” while your server capitalises on it.
It was a poor choice of words,and it irritated me a lot.
And you used it again while we were faceing tsym,which makes it look like you are using it way too frequently.
I am who i am and i speak my mind without sugar coating my words,and if you want respect try to understand me first.
I wouldnt bash anyone if he wasnt asking for a bashing beforehand.
And i wouldnt tell you to back off if i didnt feel like you jumped on me picking a fight when you didnt know what was going on.
Here is a souvenir from EP and NPA attitude,not to mention that 20 seconds later and while we were pretty much nearly dead from the carting we get hit by a 25+ mixed zerg.
This is what you are defending,so dont blame me when i raise my voice.
Lets continue this another time,hopefully in a more calmer way.

Otaur.9268:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

You are mistaken. Thieves can still be damaged while in stealth. As for going invisible, we just do it for fun when you’re downed.

Be honest… You do it so the downed player cannot target you to use their skills.

That is also a reason, kind of like when guardians pop stability and/or aegis, or warriors pop battle stance and/or endure pain, or ele mistform, yadayada.

Warriors are ok at group support but have great CC and damage. Guardians are the best group support, have ok CC, and good damage. It really depends on your play style.

Forzani.2584:

UnknownFreak.2805:

If that happens… thief profession is 100% dead.

Promise ?

I’m sure there would be no tears spilled by any people that don’t play Thieves.

Most of the QQ comes from bads. Those that have been around for a while and know what they’re doing can easily dispatch a thief.

Although, if this next patch takes away the stunbreaker from shadowstep, that will be a bit of a game changer.

Sunflowers.1729:

iCryptik.1496:

Well I would agree stealth would be op if thieves had access to regeneration, protection, stability, retaliation, confusion…

Oh wait, they don’t.

If stealth was taken away from thieves, what you would have is a class without any defensive capabilities.

And if you took stealth away and gave them most of the boons that i mentioned, and gave them a pet, then you would have a ranger…

Toning stealth down doesn’t mean completely removing it.

Look at this way – how many zerker Guardians/Eles/Engis/Rangers/Necros do you see? If these defensive buffs helped as much as stealth, they would all be running berserker gear too.

Look on the Guardian forums at the zerker build by Stunningstyles. Even he admits that it is bad for taking on multiple opponents. Yet Yishis routinely does so in zerker gear.

In other words, the fact that most Thieves are able to run zerker gear, shows that stealth is by far the best defensive mechanic (equal only to Mesmer clones and invulnerability, and coincidentally they are the only other class that routinely runs full zerker). Edit: Stealth and high mobility.

And if people argue that “well zerker Thieves explode in team fights”, guess what? Zerker everything explodes in zergs. Do you really think a zerker staff Ele stands in the middle of the hammer pain-train and absorbs everything with his ‘OP heals?’. No, they stand far away and hope not to get hit.

I still see a lot of people running zerker gear. It has it’s time and place. I’ve been wrecked by warriors and 100 lulz, shatter mesmers, nade spam engi’s, and the like. All classes have viable glass builds, but thats just it, they’re glass. Thief is no exception to anyone else. Thieves are easily shattered and broken.

The reason why glass thieves can get away in zerker gear is not wholly to do with stealth, but that a lot of people still don’t know how to deal with stealth. Once people learn the concept, it’s easy pickings from there.

My favorite glass class to roam with after my thief is my necro, and i win the majority of my fights on my glass thieves.

My next character that I plan on going glass with for roaming is my D/D ele. I’ve seen glass ele’s just tear though thieves and bunkers in a 1v1 situation.

sostronk.8167:

iCryptik.1496:

Well I would agree stealth would be op if thieves had access to regeneration, protection, stability, retaliation, confusion…

Oh wait, they don’t.

If stealth was taken away from thieves, what you would have is a class without any defensive capabilities.

And if you took stealth away and gave them most of the boons that i mentioned, and gave them a pet, then you would have a ranger…

Actually, not to disagree with you, but thiefs have access to all of these. To give some examples, dagger storm gives stability and reflection. Combo field with a steal gives confusion. You can get passive regen from stealthing. Stealing from a Mesmer gives you every boon in the game etc etc.

The problem is, most classes have these worked in with their utilities, a thief does not. Regen in stealth? Sure, anything is better then nothing, but the regen you get from the trait is lower then the regen most classes get in their utilities. Depending on what class your up against, you can steal something good like a necro fear, or something terrible like an ele’s ice shard.

Daggerstorm does give stability, but does not give it to you outside of using the skill. The reflection is pretty weak aspect of the elite as most classes can switch to melee and your easily set up to be killed. Unless I’m doing group play, I never run daggerstorm, and I get a good laugh at the enemy thief that daggerstorms while I dig my dagger in his back.

TL;DR: The examples you gave aren’t great examples of having buffs active in regular thief play. More then likely, you won’t be able to get most of the boons that i mentioned.

Edit: Although, if your lucky and steal from a ranger, doing two heartseekers in the tree water field is always nice :]

Valin.4527:

First they need to give us the ability to mute horn sounds…then they can work on this function for you.

…and why the heck is this in BLTC forums?

Moving while blowing is a better priority. the sound this is just QQ that can be handled by turning your sound down.

slingblade.1437:

Remove the coin cost from upgrades. Hundreds of supply is enough of a cost already.

Replace it with karma.

Sunflowers.1729:

iCryptik.1496:

Well I would agree stealth would be op if thieves had access to regeneration, protection, stability, retaliation, confusion…

Oh wait, they don’t.

If stealth was taken away from thieves, what you would have is a class without any defensive capabilities.

And if you took stealth away and gave them most of the boons that i mentioned, and gave them a pet, then you would have a ranger…

Toning stealth down doesn’t mean completely removing it.

Look at this way – how many zerker Guardians/Eles/Engis/Rangers/Necros do you see? If these defensive buffs helped as much as stealth, they would all be running berserker gear too.

Look on the Guardian forums at the zerker build by Stunningstyles. Even he admits that it is bad for taking on multiple opponents. Yet Yishis routinely does so in zerker gear.

In other words, the fact that most Thieves are able to run zerker gear, shows that stealth is by far the best defensive mechanic (equal only to Mesmer clones and invulnerability, and coincidentally they are the only other class that routinely runs full zerker). Edit: Stealth and high mobility.

And if people argue that “well zerker Thieves explode in team fights”, guess what? Zerker everything explodes in zergs. Do you really think a zerker staff Ele stands in the middle of the hammer pain-train and absorbs everything with his ‘OP heals?’. No, they stand far away and hope not to get hit.

I guess to each his own. I have 8 80’s, and one of almost every class except for engi. All my characters have multiple armor sets. Now, depending on their build/gear, depends on whether or not I have an issue. Several other classes can run glass cannon as well. DD Ele, 100B warrior, Hammer warriors, even some guardian, and necro builds as well.

All classes can run zerker. Are thieves pretty efficient at it? Sure. But I could say the same for D/D ele’s. I run some defensive gear on my thief (valk armor). In the amount of time i’ve gone up against a full glass thief, I win 90% of the time, with the rare occasion of him getting the jump on me first by me kitten around and not paying attention.

Anti-Stealth food would be op, as it is the thieves only main source of both offensive and defensive capabilities. IMO condi reduction food is too high as well and hurts condi based classes, which is why for the most part condi damage is broken.

Most of the players I’ve encountered that are angry about stealth are those that don’t know anything about it. Stealth is pretty easy to overcome, it’s the mobility of the escape abilities that get ya.

Well I would agree stealth would be op if thieves had access to regeneration, protection, stability, retaliation, confusion…

Oh wait, they don’t.

If stealth was taken away from thieves, what you would have is a class without any defensive capabilities.

And if you took stealth away and gave them most of the boons that i mentioned, and gave them a pet, then you would have a ranger…

There are two reasons why thieves stealth stomp.

1. To hide from down state CC and damage. We don’t have stability to keep us from being CC’d by a necro’s fear, warriors hammer, etc.

2. To mitigate damage and/or regen health. Most builds revolve around being in stealth to regen health. Thieves don’t have ready access to boons such as protection, regen, etc. so going into stealth helps us to regen some of our help and mitigate some potential damage by hiding us from any rezzers.

On one hand, I get why people are annoyed. In the same token, I believe people who spend 800 gems on an item shouldn’t be “banned” or get in trouble for playing the horn wherever they want.

If it really bothers you that badly, turn the sound down, or just find another spot in LA to hang out for the next two weeks. The horn blowers will have had their fun by then.

Sunreva.8714:

Auri El.1032:

Funny, I saw your little group myself. You were eager to fight the 3 of us up there while you had 5 down there. Rather than letting anyone close enough to actually make it an even fight, you and your fellows would just bum rush them.

Is that your opinion of a good fight?

Edit: I would be glad to do a 1v1, no reason to worry when we don’t have a Zerg right?

I’ve never seen an even numbered TC group voluntarily engage our group of roamers.

From my experience, when our roaming group encounters and equally matched TC group, the Tower Campers (TC) group BLOWS every cool down they have to RUN away from us, and hide in the nearest tower or keep.

I wasn’t involved in the incident that Sardine is talking about, but his screenshots clearly show his group has only 4 people (look at the squad + minimap), and your tower has at least that amount (possibly more that aren’t visible due to the walls). And yet, TC is hiding behind walls. Sigh.

Our engagements have consistently shown that most TC doesn’t appear to be interested in fair fights, and they’ll simply hide in safe zones until they get at least 3x more people.

Aye, ’n I be havin ’da same experiences with CD and SoS. That must mean that ’dat all anecdotal evidence must be true then lubber? Maybe all servers be havin turncoats?