it sounds like the typical 1x GPU lock here. Grab CPU-Z, GPU-Z, and Coretemp and with GW2 running in a window take screenshots of those applications. GPU-Z we need the main screen and the sensor tab.
GT660 should be more then enough for this game. if your 660 is failing check to see if there is still warranty on it. If so RMA it.
The CPU is going to be the weak link, so tell us what you have and we can go from there.
As for a laptop, budget is key here. you can get something older and used for about 450~ that will do very well or you can spend 1.4k on something new that will give the best performance for a laptop.
Nope. Even if GW2 used 100% of your GPU’s resources and pegged the processor at 100% – it still shouldn’t overheat. Personally, I would replace the thermal grease on your graphics card processor.
You’re Ignoring the fact they’ve stated other games run the GPU at cool. Guild wars should not be using more GPU resources than Witcher on Ultra as stated by the OP. I’m not assuming you said this, but If the processor maxes out, the GPU will not take the rest of the load, they both have individual properties, while the CPU focuses on rendering files while the GPU processes its memory to display graphics.
Edit: This is more something a dev should respond to, the topic is getting derailed. The main question is that GW2 should not be using all the resources.
If this was a problem a Dev had to address, then a lot of ppl would be having this issue. And that’s just not the case.
Quick and dirty, the OP can delete GW2.dat and download a fresh copy of the game for the slight chance that something got corrupted during the download/install.
I’d consider myself a bit computer savvy but i was looking for something a bit less… ambitious, plus for what i’ve seen that motherboard alone is like 80% of my 175€ estimate, and the idea is to stay within a 150€ budget.
Although the question is whether pouring that ~150€ into my pc will get a noticeable bump in performance?
edit: or if in fact is better to save up some more and go for the 300€ + solution right away.
that is always the issue with budget builds, you need to cut corners to save.
The nice thing about getting a decent motherboard now is you can pop in a i7-4690K over clock it to 4.6ghz and get 150%+ performance over your G3258 later on.
where if you buy a cheap motherboard now, you may not be able to do that down the road.
My honest opinion is to do some serious research on your motherboard. Look at everything, including the VRM/Mofset power design as that will be the determining factor of the quality of the board (the more phased power, usually the more expensive the board). If you do plan to OC you want nothing less then 6+1 phased power. Also more power phases means your CPU runs smoother too (wont pull as much voltage when it ramps up/down and it will idle at lower voltages as well).
for 175€ with motherboard included, while keeping my AMD Radeon HD 6670 and my Sata 7200rpm HDD.
With that 3 parts upgrade, will i see a significant boost in performance on GW2, at least enough to get out of the 5fps in world bosses and unplayable WvW? Or will it be so insignificant that i mind as well hold tight for a better upgrade?
Eventually i’m thinking on improving to a i5/7 down the road, considering that the board will be able to handle it.
Thanks in advance for your attention and help.
yes and no. the Dual cores are limited to 2 threads. You will get the ‘best’ performance out of either an i5 or i7. So areas like Zergs (WvW World Bosses) will have the low FPS at 18-24, while open world content should give you 80+ FPS.
BUT, since it seems you are on a budget, I would suggest a G3258 and a decent z97 motherboard with a Hyper 212evo and overclock the G3258 to 4.2-4.6Ghz. That will give you the best bang for the buck for that price range.
Note: Crossfire regardless of space will always heat up faster than single GPU.
Now noticing you have a 280X crossfire, AMD is still adjusting the video cards to work in crossfire mode sufficiently. If you haven’t done so, I would recommend updating your drivers into the 15.4BETA Drives on the AMD site. Using old drivers with a new SERIES or GENERATION of video cards can cause them to use more resources than needed which may be your case.
Recommended Action with the Hardware: Close browsers that use hardware acceleration and NPAPI software when using. AMD is at fault for this one, When hardware accelerated browsers are on, AMD tends to split it’s crossfire resources which is not good causing drivers to crash.
Ensure you’ve reset any voltage settings in your mother board if you’ve changed them from a previous videocard, and readjust them to function in crossfire.
Guild wars suggested specs only allow for the game to be Playable at a minimum of 30 fps on recommended settings. (shouldn’t be a problem there)
I suggest playing in Full screen rather than window full screen, it will set some programs to Idle and prevent resources from pooling away.
I have a crossfire build 7870’s and they function perfectly (while being awfully close to each other). They don’t run at full and manage to run the game smoothly.
Edit: They hit a Max of 45C.
The 280x is actually a 7970 re-badged. Its not new, its going on 3 years old now and soon going to be retired in the AMD drivers as it is (when they drop the 7000 series, the 260x, 270/270x, and 280/280x are all going by-by for support since they are all recycled 7000 series hardware). so no, AMD is not ‘still’ working on Crossfire for GCN 1.0 cards.
This is a hardware issue, sure it could be a voltage issue but since voltages are pretty regulated its probably more a thermal paste issue.
as long as the OP is on 14.12 drivers, upgrading drivers at this point (even to Beta) wont make much of a difference since all optimizations are only being done to GCN 1.1+ cards in preparation for the 300 series which launches very soon.
Yeah, I know it’s pretty darn old. It’s all we have at this point, and saving for a new PC is going slow due to billing and all. I’m not familiar with overclocking (my CCC comes with Overdrive) and I’m afraid I might mess something up if I tried. Are there any repercussions?
as i said in my reply, you can damage laptop components easier by overclocking then you can on desktop components.
but IMHO, for Llano running at 2.2-2.4ghz on every core that should be well with in the safety standards of any laptop with those chips. Just download CoreTemp, CPU-Z, Prime95, and K10Stat. Plug in the values in the top section of the text file that I provided, kick up Coretemp and CPU-Z to verify core clock ratings and temps, then run Prime95.
If you do not hardlock pay close attention to the CPU temps. You want them as close to 70c’s as possible. Even if that means dropping down to 2.0ghz on every core. That will give you room to OC your GPU with MSI Afterburner if you want to go that route next.
Once you get it stable with no hardlocks/reboots, run Prime95 for 30-45mins to verify temps and to ensure system stability. I have applied OC settings to 20 different Llano chips (A4-A8’s) and every chip was stable using my 2.2ghz clock settings on every stepping. So I feel your chip will act the same.
Cooling of my PC is not an issue (I build PC’s as a job, got more fans and airflow than needed) – I can Play Crisis 3, BF4, GTAV, Tera, WoW, WoT, CS:GO, on highest settings… kitten I even played Witcher 3 on Ultra and my GPUs barely scratch 70 C. And in GW2 I can’t look at a wall on lowest settings (yes, I have just tried to limit my view to a single wall, and nothing else), because in minutes my GPU reaches 100 C and my PC shuts down.
What the hell is wrong with this game ?
I’ll bet you its the thermal paste on the GPU more then anything else. And the fact the Mining doesnt overheat the GPU and GW2 does means absolutely nothing.
I would replace the Paste with IC7 compound as its been said, Overheating is always a hardware issue.
Your Laptop is very old. On low settings with stock clocks and such you should be getting 18-24FPS at best.
Aside from Upgrading to a new laptop, you can download a program called K10Stat to overclock the CPU, and another program called MSI Afterburner to overclock the 6520G. But be warned, overclocking can damage laptop components easier then desktop ones. So you need to watch your CPU/APU’s temps if you do go that route.
I once had a HP DV6z-6c00 that had the same APU + 7690M in it. Stock out of the box the best I was able to get on medium settings was between 24-28FPS at 1366×768. After overclocking the CPU side of the APU to 2.4ghz (and undervolting to reduce heat) I was getting 45-55FPS. But that was using the 7690M instead of the 6520G. with the 6520G doing the same the best I could ever get was 40FPS (10% overclock on the 6520G btw), just overclocking the CPU the best I could get was 30FPS. That was also pulling between 76C-83C for temps.
But in reality, with out overclocking, you really should be looking at a newer laptop.
Edit here are my notes on using K10stat for overclocking the Mobile Llano APUs. The chart below works on any Llano APU that is not already clocked at 2.0ghz base
Edit had to attach it as a Text file since the forums dumped the formatting.
disable best texture filtering, as that is probably hurting your performance the most.
but as I see it your getting 51FPS with a Dual core first gen i3 and what looks like a R7 260? Your Cores on the CPU are at 74%, and that is what would be holding you back the most over all. game updates or otherwise. It looks really normal for your hardware setup.
Edit Also disable that frame limiter. It doesnt work correctly. You are far better off just using vSync against your 60Hz Monitor. That will give you more performance as well.
About 3-4 weeks ago I suffered a sudden huge fps drop after a patch was released (went from 40-50 fps in open pve to 10-20). I thought it was the game’s fault but apparently I was the only one with the issue. So I reinstalled different versions of GPU drivers but nothing worked. As last resort I performed a scandisk and to my surprise it fixed the fps drop.
Same thing happened with today’s patch. Same fps drop, fixed again with a scandisk.
Is there an explanation for this? This HDD is only 2 years old, by the way. From Speccy everything looks fine.
Hard drive is fine, SMART shows no errors and only a little over a year of powered on Time.
The issue is probably GPU specific. Throw up screenshots of CPU-Z and GPU-Z, as well as Coretemp, while GW2 is running in a window.
Also include the ingame settings. Its possible a setting was changed on patch that is eating your FPS that you did not have enabled before.
True enough, and now windows 10(which directX12 will be exclusive to) has it’s own slew of issues. Worse yet Microsoft is planning to charge a subscription instead of a flat charge. That combined with the technical challenge of implementing DirectX12 into existing architecture its rather unlikely GW2 will be seeing DirectX12 in the near future.
I mean it would be really cool to actually pull 60FPS in WvW zerg fights with high-end hardware and would solve most of the performance issues the game has. I’m using the Windows 10 Beta and the thing has a very Alpha feel to it. I have no idea on why they plan on releasing it this summer considering how unstable the operating system is.
Full of miss information.
Windows10 is not going to be a subscription, the OS AFTER Windows10 is going to be. Windows10 is actually quite stable, sure drivers are lagging behind a bit still but what do you expect for a preview release. I have had more Crashes in Windows8 and 8.1 then I have had in 10 so far. Though I am currently Running 7 on my main system.
The report said that Windows would be offered as a paid subscription service and Windows 10 users will not be able to freely upgrade to the operating system when it is released. With Microsoft still working on Windows 10, its Windows successor will not be launched anytime in the near future.
but in the mean time, drop reflections to Sky/Terrain, disable FXAA, set Shadows to High, Character limit to High, and then repost those GPU-Z screenshots.
Thanks for the reply. GPU-Z reports PCI-E 3.0 x16 @ 16 3.0. I’ve got a 600W power supply with no other onboard cards, 1 DVD drive, and 1 SATA drive (not SSD, but that shouldn’t affect frame rate).
I’ve checked with a guild mate who happens to have the same card and a slightly slower CPU than I have, and he’s getting over 50FPS with the same test I’m using. (Standing in the grove at night, casting a spell, and flailing the camera around madly).
where going to need screenshots, CPU-Z, GPU-Z (main tab and Sensors tab) and Core temp All open while GW2 is running in a window.
Looks like a good grahpics card, but it seems like your CPU is bottlenecking (slows down the performance of your graphics card) since it is only at 36% load while running a game like GW2. You can try another massive game like GW2 and post same pictures with it and let us see what results you get.
Edit: and get a more updated version of “core temp” since it lacks features , ie v1.0
This screenshot pretty much tells us what we need to know about his system;
as you can see, a single core is at 87% while the rest are 70%+. As we know this game favors single core performance due to how they use DX9 here. He is getting low FPS and his CPU is already so highly utilized, but his GPU is only at 60%. (in another screenshot he verified that the GPU is linked at x16 version 2 spec)
I am willing to also bet that the in game settings in this screenshot are on ultra-High across the board.
Only options are to overclock, buy into Intel, or lower in game settings and deal with 30FPS~.
Sorry squishy, I will give you that info once I’ve finished re installing the game.
Friends were tossing around the idea that because I transferred my Guildwars 2 file from my old PC to an external and then to my new PC that may have caused some issues.
SO if the problem is still going on once the game is up and running (god help me and my horrid back woods DSL internet /wrist) I will GLADLY post the information you need!
The issue is that they decided to do vector based math on the CPU instead of the GPU for wide area dynamic content (Player generated movement and attacks, things that cannt be predicted) . DX9 aside, that is the MAIN issue with this game.
and that is the only reason AMD is a huge step behind Intel due to the IPC differences between what AMD currently has and what Intel currently released. (basically FX = Core2 9000 series era, Phenom II = i5 gen1 era).
all the other babble is not needed here. As GW2 will probably never see DX11 or 12 for that matter in the coming year. But! Anet might surprise us all.
Are you having such low fps only in Dry Drop/Silverwastes, LA, zerguing, bos fights… or it’s the same in empty maps, discovering the world, dungeons…?
Most of pve map are kinda stable ~35-40 FPS
PvP hurts below 30 FPS.
Some places like that one i love in Dry Top causes drop, even if there are just like 5 ppl around.
Boss fights is ofc one big joke. Maw ~10 FPS.
So far the only reason i visit www is for daily badges spender.
So Edge of Mists start place ~35 FPS.
what if you reduce your ingame settings to low, do you see better frame rates in SW/Drytop? And by low I mean everything (high res textures, and character models too!)
I’ve posted comparison on previous page, but i see no problem on reposting it.
ah thats right, I remember seeing that. What about overclocking that CPU?
I’m not considering that at all. The point is the same. I bought pc, wasted lot of money on it. And while other game works fine gw2 Chokes in la with 3 ppl next to the mystic forge.
There got to be other way than wasting more $ on upgrading already fine pc.
If your not running the stock cooler, overclock. That is the best answer for you now. Other then swapping the CPU/MB over to Intel.
300 players on screen turns any cpu into a bottleneck. I found that lowering max characters displayed helps with this.
OP’s Issue: *I play this game in massive WvW threesomes with around 50 FPS but with Effect LODs being turned on (reduces blooming+particle effects of CCs)
If I turn Effect LOD off I get down to 20 FPS in the same fights. What could be the problem here?*
While what you say is 100% true, the issue he is asking about is LOD settings.
I run GW2 on GTX970+i74790k with 600W PSU, 500 GB Samsung HDD, 60 Hz monitor and Z97-K Asus motherboard.
All of my settings are set to low except for shaders which are put on high+my CPU is OC’d up to 4.6 ghz, tempratuares are fine.
I play this game in massive WvW threesomes with around 50 FPS but with Effect LODs being turned on (reduces blooming+particle effects of CCs)
If I turn Effect LOD off I get down to 20 FPS in the same fights. What could be the problem here?
//Krisi
EDIT: A friend of mine told me that running the game on an SSD might help…?
The biggest question – Do you see that FPS drop between IN and OUT of combat? LOD also affects aura’s and weapon effects too (Fiery, Chaos, Shadow effects…ect), so when you do get into combat its just that much worse as you are also rendering all the AOE and non-AOE special effects.
The other question, when you drop the FPS when LOD disabled, what is the Memory usage on your 970? use GPU-Z to figure that out if you don’t already know.
If you are jumping past the 2.5GB or 3.5GB (depending on which 970 you have) that could also be part of the reason. The 970’s are notorious for having issues when using that 512MB of ram that was partitioned out.
Ive read multiple forums and suff about it, and when it comes to AMD, the game pulls more from the CPU than GPU like it should.
Your GPU is at 2x, it needs to be at 16×. Move it to the closest slot to the CPU (as already suggested).
the Phenom II 965 is going to be the fastest Single threaded CPU AMD has to offer. So you will be ‘comparable’ to a first gen i5/i7 for this game.
On my laptop (i7 920xm + HD5870M) I can pull 60FPS just about anywhere as long as the ingame settings are optimal. So after you get the GPU fixed, it should show 16x and not 2x in GPU-Z’s Bus section, Post your in game settings so we can make recommendations.
This just started (I haven’t tested this since before the last patch), but when you are running windowed Fullscreen mode and you hotkey swap from spanned to eyefinity mode GW2 crashes to desktop. If you switch from Eyefinity to Spanned mode, the game does not crash.
I am running 3 1600×900 monitors, eyefinity resolution of 5040×900.
Its more of a minor annoyance, but this didn’t happen in the past (at least before the last patch)
Crash Log is attached at Txt (too long to post in a single post).
Something is going on with my system I think, I was getting over 100fps yesterday in WvW on low settings during one session. Then during a later session it had dropped to 15fps again and there was no high density fighting going on, just me roaming during off-peak.
When it dropped low during this session I exited the program and restarted my PC and got a VGA Bios error (Long beep followed by two short beeps). This PC is on it’s second GPU; the original build had a GTX580 in it and used to get the same VGA Bios error on occasion after a hard lock up.
First Screenshot is in Lions Arch with my PvE settings; fps doesn’t seem bad today so I might update the thread if the performance drops and I don’t get a hard lock or force restart.
with the settings you are using, that is expected performance for areas like Lions Arch and such.
If you are getting FPS drops like that in places such as WvW then its PROBABLY a thermal issue. CPU getting to hot and throttling back. You can veirfy this with programs like Coretemp, as that will display your CPU temps. If so, gotta clean out the CPU cooler, replace the thermal Paste, possibly replace Cooling FANs…ect.
thank’s for the reply i’ll just try other games if i will get higher fps. since i got this laptop with free witcher 3.
The issue might be the 512MB partitioned vRAM on the 970m. Grab GPU-Z, like suggested, using its sensors tab verify the Utilization (should NOT be 3% or less), and the vRAM that is used (typically GW2 will use less then 1GB vram, but ive seen it use 2GB with ALL the options turned on).
If you are in the 2.5GB vRAM usage area then that’s probably the issue. the 970’s are notorious for having performance issues when more then 2.5GB of vRAM is in use. And that could simply be the case here.
Are you having such low fps only in Dry Drop/Silverwastes, LA, zerguing, bos fights… or it’s the same in empty maps, discovering the world, dungeons…?
Most of pve map are kinda stable ~35-40 FPS
PvP hurts below 30 FPS.
Some places like that one i love in Dry Top causes drop, even if there are just like 5 ppl around.
Boss fights is ofc one big joke. Maw ~10 FPS.
So far the only reason i visit www is for daily badges spender.
So Edge of Mists start place ~35 FPS.
what if you reduce your ingame settings to low, do you see better frame rates in SW/Drytop? And by low I mean everything (high res textures, and character models too!)
I’ve posted comparison on previous page, but i see no problem on reposting it.
post a picture of GPU-z
Figure id save time, these are his screens from a couple pages back
Are you having such low fps only in Dry Drop/Silverwastes, LA, zerguing, bos fights… or it’s the same in empty maps, discovering the world, dungeons…?
Most of pve map are kinda stable ~35-40 FPS
PvP hurts below 30 FPS.
Some places like that one i love in Dry Top causes drop, even if there are just like 5 ppl around.
Boss fights is ofc one big joke. Maw ~10 FPS.
So far the only reason i visit www is for daily badges spender.
So Edge of Mists start place ~35 FPS.
what if you reduce your ingame settings to low, do you see better frame rates in SW/Drytop? And by low I mean everything (high res textures, and character models too!)
I’ve posted comparison on previous page, but i see no problem on reposting it.
ah thats right, I remember seeing that. What about overclocking that CPU?
guys thanks for debating this with me, I will definately get Intel down the road but for now I have what I have. I wish I would have known about this earlier…Honestly never had a program limit me so much because of my processor. AMD has always served me well over the years. but anyhow u guys the bulls vs the cavs are on nba dot come for free. playoffs baby~
Your cpu aint the issue ( It could use an OC though,theyre Made to OC.. )despite what people are making you believe here,they All got intels,most never used an AMD at all and all talk based on what they read online,and not from actual experience.I used to rock a fx 8120 at 4.6 ghz,Fps 100+ in most areas game nearly maxed out.Dont make yourself waste money when it isn’t necessary,something else is holding your fps back most likely,might also just be because you’re running it on stock.Besides you people should support AMD some more…if AMD ceases to exist or stop making cpu’s alltogether…Intel will kitten us from left to right and the prices will be insane
Btw: Turn off Vsync and put resolution to Full…do not play in windowed mode since it can lower your fps Drastically.
Except for the fact I was on AMD before going to Intel (Haswell). I had my system using an AM3+ Motherboard with a Phenom II 965 x4 then upgraded to a FX8350 (Thinking more Cores = more Performance). Top FPS at the time was 65FPS with a 7850. Played on that for a long time (Not just GW2 other games too) then Decided to build another box for other stuff, and tested GW2 on it and was completely surprised at the results.
The other box was a G3220 and a HD7790. In open world (Queensdale for example) 90-100FPS using the same settings on my FX8350. Low Character limit, No high res textures/character models, Medium Shadows, No FXAA, and Sky Reflections. Everything else was on High+Supersample. Sure zerg content (World bosses + WvW) was still low 18-20FPS, but the open world+Dungeon performance surprised the hell out of me.
that is why I ultimately moved to Intel and dropped AMD for my compute. Now I play on a i7-4790K+295x2, and get well above 100FPS on max settings (Reflections are still on Sky and no FXAA). My wife’s system is a i5-4670K+280x, and she also gets well above 100FPS+ with the same settings…because this game prefers single core performance over multi-threaded. Both CPUs are clocked at 4.6ghz.
Are you having such low fps only in Dry Drop/Silverwastes, LA, zerguing, bos fights… or it’s the same in empty maps, discovering the world, dungeons…?
Most of pve map are kinda stable ~35-40 FPS
PvP hurts below 30 FPS.
Some places like that one i love in Dry Top causes drop, even if there are just like 5 ppl around.
Boss fights is ofc one big joke. Maw ~10 FPS.
So far the only reason i visit www is for daily badges spender.
So Edge of Mists start place ~35 FPS.
what if you reduce your ingame settings to low, do you see better frame rates in SW/Drytop? And by low I mean everything (high res textures, and character models too!)
guys thanks for debating this with me, I will definately get Intel down the road but for now I have what I have. I wish I would have known about this earlier…Honestly never had a program limit me so much because of my processor. AMD has always served me well over the years. but anyhow u guys the bulls vs the cavs are on nba dot come for free. playoffs baby~
This is a really good review compared to bulldozer and the upcoming AMD Zen cores. explains why the FX series is soo slow compared to Intel (think on Intel like the Zen Diagram in the article, itll help make more sense out of it)
In my eyes this is the only game i have problems with out of 150 games. If they want to be Intel fanboys let them but there is no excuse. In my eyes they did the job half right. Left me in the dust. Does not feel good. I am not upgrading when 99% of my other games run perfect
You have 150 that have sub-par requirements to run. GW2 needs a lot of resources from the cpu. While you can still play GW2 decently, you can’t get great performance without upgrading your budget AMD chip to an Intel one. The price difference is shown in the quality.
now I got people on here telling me what freaking game I own, I have lots of games Crysis 3 , bioshock infinate , Battlefields , Flight Sim X, Witcher series , Arkham City, Skyrim, The Secret World, Civ5, Starcraft 2, etc etc etc… Arma2/3. Gw2 just runs bad, fluctuates fps drastically.
Im done here there is nothing more to say. You want to ignore me go ahead. Im not on here for my health. Trying to make AMD users have a better experience. There is no excuse when thousands of other companies can make an AMD chip run good but this game cannot. good day.
The issue comes down to single core performance. AMD is about 65% behind Intel in single core performance. its just fact. Nothing that Anet can really do about that right now.
OK I am still sold that this game needs optimized. Here is yet another image (with same setting as the first image) but with an overclocked 960. Remember guys I am standing in a very demanding spot in the game yet there is nobody around me. Now compare this to the second image I posted where I was NOT standing in a demanding spot and with higher settings. The game fluctuates fps way to much for my liking and I ask Arena Net to Please fix this issue.
Its your weak FX8370’s single core performance that’s giving you the limiting 55FPS. its not the game or its engine (not really). The game relies on single core performance over muli-threading performance.
Here is an example – my G3258 + HD5770 (screenshot) that’s right a dual core Haswell clocked at 4ghz, and a older HD5770 gets better FPS then your FX8370+GTX960, why do you think that is?
you do not get better fps, the first and third images were from standing in demanding areas.
Now, using those SAME settings go back to your other areas :-)
You are using settings that push your CPU too hard to maintain performance.
why can’t you understand this the first and third images I was standing at are demanding spots in the game!!!!… WHY DONT U GO BACK THERE AND STAND THERE AND SEE WTF HAPPENS
for one, dont have that system anymore…i gave it to my nephew, for another why should I? your the one with issues.
and your screenshots from before are using different ingame settings then what your last one did (the one that you mirrored my settings from).
You need to use my settings and go back to redo your screenshots. As its going to prove to you that your pushing your FX8370 to hard to keep up with DX9 API thread.
OK I am still sold that this game needs optimized. Here is yet another image (with same setting as the first image) but with an overclocked 960. Remember guys I am standing in a very demanding spot in the game yet there is nobody around me. Now compare this to the second image I posted where I was NOT standing in a demanding spot and with higher settings. The game fluctuates fps way to much for my liking and I ask Arena Net to Please fix this issue.
Its your weak FX8370’s single core performance that’s giving you the limiting 55FPS. its not the game or its engine (not really). The game relies on single core performance over muli-threading performance.
Here is an example – my G3258 + HD5770 (screenshot) that’s right a dual core Haswell clocked at 4ghz, and a older HD5770 gets better FPS then your FX8370+GTX960, why do you think that is?
you do not get better fps, the first and third images were from standing in demanding areas.
Now, using those SAME settings go back to your other areas :-)
You are using settings that push your CPU too hard to maintain performance.
SEE this is proof , perfect example why Arena net needs to fix their stuff. Totally leaving us AMD users in the dust. Thanks for clarifying this for Arena Net. They need to realize that not everyone uses Intel. Once again this is the only game I have performance problems with out of 150 games. Everything from flight sims to fps shooters all run wonderfully.
I can’t honestly tell if your trolling or just that uninformed.
OK I am still sold that this game needs optimized. Here is yet another image (with same setting as the first image) but with an overclocked 960. Remember guys I am standing in a very demanding spot in the game yet there is nobody around me. Now compare this to the second image I posted where I was NOT standing in a demanding spot and with higher settings. The game fluctuates fps way to much for my liking and I ask Arena Net to Please fix this issue.
Its your weak FX8370’s single core performance that’s giving you the limiting 55FPS. its not the game or its engine (not really). The game relies on single core performance over muli-threading performance.
Here is an example – my G3258 + HD5770 (screenshot) that’s right a dual core Haswell clocked at 4ghz, and a older HD5770 gets better FPS then your FX8370+GTX960, why do you think that is?
you were right, CPU throttles back but I don’t think it’s because of the temp. From what I see at least.
thanks,
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Its due to temps, you are pushing 60c on a max 70c socket. 62c is the max you should ever see and your right up against it. You WANT that fx8320 to run at 55c or less.
also, Temp senors on AMD are not 100% accurate. there is a 8-12c discrepancy between real temps and what is usually detected via API calls (coretemp in this case). so chances are you are hitting throttling temps.
I would tear into the cooler and make sure there is no matted up dust and the like. maybe replace the stock cooler with something bigger/better? (Hyper 212evo would be perfect here since you are not overclocking)
I should not have been on the ‘ragged edge’ as my voltages, wattages, and temperatures were well within safety and power ranges of the mobo, psu, and cpu. However that does not rule out undervoltages and everything is on a single rail, so if I have more stability issues, I will start to monitor that. Thanks Dodgy!
What about your 12v rails on the PSU. Do you have multiple rails and do you know their amps? Also, are you splitting the GPUs between Rails or are they on the same rail?
I would not take a 960, I would take an AMD GPU like a 280x or 290 over that. as they have come down in price and offer far better performance then that neutered 960.
Hyper 212 has a limit against Haswell of 1.2v. If you are unlucky and cant push your i5 to 4.6ghz at 1.2v that hyper 212 is not going to be a good choice. You will be seeing temps in the mid 70’s using high end fans with a push/pull config. DH15, GNSS, or even a H110i would be a far better choice.
as for your old system, do what was suggested. Dust it out. You may still want to upgrade, but if you can get your old system stable…sell it to pad the costs of the new system. Maybe it can afford you some serious upgrade room (like going i7-5820K on x99 instead of 4690K on z97)
Your GPU is linked at x4 version 1.1, you need to make sure the GPU is in the closest PCIE slot to the CPU and that its linked at either x8 or x16 version 2 or version 3 (dont remember what spec the 6970 is)
I have updated my NIC drivers to the latest version from TPlink’s website. It has not helped. I have captured a screen shot of my performance monitor during a disconnect and it looks like all Wifi connectivity cuts out for a period. I am able to play normally for 30 minuets to an hour then there is a sudden disconnect.
Any other suggestions?
wireless interference is a pain to track. Download InSSIDer and let that monitor your WAP (and area WAPs) and see what happens when you drop. See if your WAP goes gray, or if your SSID gets a mirror (2 different MAC addresses listed). That will be the first thing to look for.
Things like Microwave Ovens will knock out 2.4ghz wireless, so it could be as simple as something like that as well.
We know how gw2 hates amd but this solves nothing. So we still fight here and keep w8ing for some official answer WHEN are they going to fix it.
I was just about to bump thread but it’s getting alive. I like it.
So. Proggres status:
- Installed latest beta Radeon drivers.
- All possible latest windows updates.
Aaaaannnd…. Nothing.
While Dragon Age FPS is kinda more stable now during combat.
So either I’m still opened for new ideas and official answer when is this going to be fixed.
you could try setting gw2 affinity in task manager to use only cores 0 2 4 so that its not using the combined FPU
i am doubting this issue is graphics card related if graphics settings change nothing its a cpu bottleneck
I’ve tried this on very beginning.
And it gives = nothing.
Still thank You for idea.
Its your CPU. The FX line is slow for single threaded applications. and you have a FX6300 (its more of a tri core then a six core). The only choice is to over clock the CPU (as close to 5Ghz as you can), upgrade the CPU to a FX8370 (again overclock as close to 5ghz as you can), or upgrade to an Intel CPU (even a G3220 will beat the FX line in singled threaded performance 2:1).
Look for updated wireless drivers. You are taking a 10Mb/s and 13ms latency hit while streaming, and it could be the driver stack interfering with GW2 while Netflix is streaming.
