Guardian : weakest = shield,
most overrated =greatsword,
best = hammer and staff
Everything arenanet ever did for mesmers was creating two builds or so that are quite easy to play but are so vulnerable at some points they don’t satisfy when it gets serious. The real problems for mesmers aren’t getting looked at. I don’t think the profession gets a lot of affection from the developpers.
yeah we get nothing at all.they took gw1 mes and put all the gw1 mesmer skills into 1 condition called confusion and then they nerfed it to the ground. now we are stuck with no wvw raid builds, a ton of bugs, no attention, get useless gm traits like 1k healing power(what a joke), we got put into the role of a weaker hitting thief with less armor and power, we are 1v1 only now, have ai only, that has been bugged foe ages, f1-f4 is useless without ip…etc. but no attention from devs ever!they fix some bugs but wont help us to get anything for wvw…i feel so stuck with my mesmer!
still the best class for spvp and one of the top roamers when i play spvp with mesmer i can beat a lot people almost effortlessly and i dont even know the skills well
ill keep playing and exposing the game for creating the most annoying class ever
simple play memser in spvp and warrior in the rest of the game best of both worlds
go queensdale or try guesting some other server
a lot people lvl up in wvw aswell
i usually cast it on people that fight others its has insane range aswell
@ OP
If we are talking about PvP then it’s just a L2P issue.
In some guilds you are not even allowed to take a Mesmer in tPvP in the same way you can’t play a Ranger in most serious WvW guilds outside of roaming.If you are talking about WvW it’s also a L2P issue
Let’s be honest shout Guardians can’t solo kill any good roamer build played by … a decent player. It’s simply too slow this as nothing to do with stealth or clones :
Warrior ~unkillable -> fight reset if you get the upper hand.
Engineers ~unkillable -> fight reset if you get the upper hand.
Theif ~unkillable -> fight reset if you get the upper hand.
Ele ~unkillable -> fight reset if you get the upper hand.
Mesmer ~unkillable -> fight reset if you get the upper hand.
But anyway you can’t get the upper hand.Finally,
Mesmers are too powerful in certain situations but people use the l2p card to cover there opness and even if i dont usually use a strict 1vs1 build (i use shouts instead of meditations most time) i still deserve a chance to fight back than getting steamrolled by a class that its full of dirty tactics.
Really ? I was under the illusion Ranger had no place in organized WvW group. And also, Engineers, Thieves, Mesmer got marginal roles while the meta is 80% Warriors + Guardians.
+ Guardians have the best PvP bunker/support builds.
Thank you. Now I know guardians “are too powerful in certain situations”.
The time to nerf them as come.
if you have something to point out about nerfing guardian be my guest, blobing in wvw is broken anyway, but still i cant troll whole groups kill almost anyone that passes by and never die myself .
btw mesmer is the top class for snaring people into blobs in wvw.
at the end i must roll a mesmer and start frustrating people, it will send out a clearer message for the game.
perma daze, confusions and damage that will eventually wear you down even if they play a survival build ,
also dissappearing and spawning clones all the time, real gods of space and clowns at the same time.what is the theory behind this irritating class?
i think they are gamebreaking beyond limits and in need of big changes especially at their cc, they should be able to confuse you visually not having you perma stunned confused with stacks of bleeds .
sorry for my english
And lol confusion on perma stun is pointless even if they could manage it. Good luck fighting someone in 1v1 or 2v1 with a survival build on guard you will be mocked, out maneuvered, outdamaged and out played. Stick with your team/zerg and leave 1v1 for people with builds made for it, then wipe your tears (not an insult i assume you are focusing too kitten trying to tell the difference in-between the clone and the real one… hint it is the one with all the buffs and dodging) and learn how other classes work.
Your english is just fine to be honest.
i was meaning if mesmer plays a survival they are still unkillable and what changes if you find the real one? you are already dead from debuffs cc and they can dissapear again and this can continue endlessly until they kill you , im not getting outplayed i dont even have a proper chance to play.
the find the real one is getting old so better find a new excuse, even if you find the real one there escaping and counter abilities are limitless.
mesmers are too powerful in certain situations but people use the l2p card to cover there opness and even if i dont usually use a strict 1vs1 build (i use shouts instead of meditations most time) i still deserve a chance to fight back than getting steamrolled by a class that its full of dirty tactics.
maybe that why warriors need to be op to sum with mesmers ridiculousness ,
maybe all classes should be at warrior levels.
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well thats great news ^^ i loved crafting and now its going to be even better .
hello i have just read that ascended gear will be account bound that means my existing gear can be used to another character ?
i want to craft a tanky hammer for wvw and i want to know if i can pass it to another character later on.
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What Necromancer even has access to 10 minions? And seriously, if you’re having issues with MM necro, that’s a l2p issue.
really? show me videos of your guardian beating a mm necro.
dont get me wrong but why did they give 10 pets to necromancer and make them almost impossible to beat with most classes?
same goes for mesmers but atleast they have to put a little more effort.
seems the more pets your class have the most powerful it is.
Dont know if this was a bad guardian but i never lost more then 3k hp
Just look at your footage, it’s hilarious how easy and effective the condition Mesmer build is.
All you do is spam weapon skills and all your utilities as soon as they are available, dodge roll whenever, sometimes to avoid damage but it doesn’t matter as dodging summons a clone which applies condi’s on death.
You just spam skills and dodges while backpeddling and it works!
Passive condi application from clones and passive healing from the signet.After just 8 seconds into the fight most of your weapon skill and utilities are on cooldown…
So easy, the state of this game. No risk vs reward for some professions and their builds.
You’re the kind of boring Mesmer that’s a joke to 1v1 in WvW, as soon as you get threatened you just stealth and run away to reset, again no risk vs reward.
+Stun breaking teleport on a weapon skill >.<
a lot mesmers will say that its l2p issue for the guardian
two thiefs killed me today and started jumping on my corpse, thats the psychology of an average thief
Unfortunately the Thief class is one of the classes that holds in high competition and rivalry with other Thieves. You want to be the best there is. That’s the mind set of a Thief. And you are never satisfied until you get your name across.
i play guardian not a thief hehe
i logged now and it seems fixed , keep it up and delete this threat if you want to.
mesmer will always be the top pvp class
hello i play since launch and i have never met so much glitches and lag in this game
skills freeze in wvw
skills freeze in spvp
just died in skyhammer instantly for no reason
porting back to places in wvw again for no reason
also a lot of other people expirience similar issues
what is going on there is some serious issue with servers the game is falling apart
two thiefs killed me today and started jumping on my corpse, thats the psychology of an average thief
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free to play games make more money than sub based i dont mind spending 10 euros now and then for the game but being forced to pay will make me stop playing
a way to punish fotm rerollers?
i support.FOTM rerollers shine a harsher light on in game imbalances. Without them, the devs will take a little longer to fix broken specs.
still having people running op builds for so long time its unacceptable atleast they will get reduced, what worst than having 2 hambow warriors at same spot? having 3.
Dude that’s how MMOs works, they will always be imbalanced, if you seek balance play an fps/moba not a casuals oriented mmo like gw2.
Meaning WoW patching every couple of months will remain more balanced than GW2 at every 6-9 months.
wow when i was playing had terrible balance remember cata frost mage? lol
tome of wrath is useful when karma train in wvw to give quickness and might to allies to break doors a bit quicker
if you have it traited you can cast quickness twice
hello i try various builds in spvp and the class im having major issues with are mesmers they are extremely frustrating to me.
every time to capture point he will end up having his own way, do you have any advice or recomended build how to beat them?
lets say that next patch the game is still unbalanced and 1-2 classes dominate will it take 6 months again to try and balance the game out?
No.
Your more or less asking for ppl to play the way you want and not let them have the freedom to chose how they play.It goes both ways you know. In games I love playing a healer. Can’t do that here.
roll a cleric guardian and you can heal very well in wvw
its all about gathering most people and bombing .
sight on sight fight? avoid it.
you started a one vs one fight and your opponent fights back? run back to your zerk.
i started doing spvp more lately its simply better and at least needs a sort of skill and thinking.
seeing a guardian running anything in wvw than renewed focus?
i change it sometimes out of boredom but its always a bad move since besides immunity i loose elite cooldown aegis regen on my allies
there is no reason to run anything else in wvw than renewed focus
reduce their power and reduce the cooldown aswell , tomes are very fun to play with but the cooldown is brutal .
its pretty obvious that since launch every guardian runs renewed focus even if you have nerfed the immunity duration
pls investigate a way to make tomes viable either way i dont see renewed focus coming back to 3 seconds
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yes because i have played for a year it would be different after 5 seconds of fighting with a mesmer around , torment, stacks of bleed, confusion and daze, seems legit..
If you come with these arguments, don’t expect people to take you seriously.
Every profession has its strengths and its weaknesses, just learn to deal with them. Mesmers are not harder than any other profession.
PD: Thank god you didn’t start playing at game release. Back then, mesmers were stronger than now.
what exactly is the weakness of mesmer in spvp?
So just from reading the OPs responses, I’m going to make a guess that he’s been playing for less than 3 months.
OP, you are an extremely inexperienced player. This is why mesmer confuse you so badly. As you continue to play and get better, you’ll be able to understand how mesmers work and how to play against them. Until then, I recommend that you refrain from crying about losing on the forums, as you’ll just get trolled because your inexperience shows through rather clearly.
yes because i have played for a year it would be different after 5 seconds of fighting with a mesmer around , torment, stacks of bleed, confusion and daze, seems legit..
You haven’t faced good thieves, bunker engies, hambow warriors, and condition necro’s yet then if a ’’CC’’ mesmer already breaks your mood. Anyway, seems like you lack stunbreakers. Any class can stunlock anyone without stunbreakers.
Something totally off topic, but mesmer CC is pretty poor designed. But yeah, so are the ‘’interrupt/lockdown’’ traits for mesmer. Guess they compensate.
thief can troll aswell but not so good at spvp and tbh id rather face engi or hambow warrior than than a mesmer, at spvp they are pure nightmare to deal with
If you’re being confused visually there’s something wrong with how you’re playing.
no im not confused all the time the real problem is either the cc or the debuffs that come from i try also to target them but they dissapear again
Hah! Thank you for the laugh!
i dont know man i tried to express my thoughts for them in best way possible,
gw2 is a great game but the trolling some classes are able to do is unbelivable
its like mesmers where made just to break your mood
perma daze, confusions and damage that will eventually wear you down even if they play a survival build ,
also dissappearing and spawning clones all the time, real gods of space and clowns at the same time.
what is the theory behind this irritating class?
i think they are gamebreaking beyond limits and in need of big changes especially at their cc, they should be able to confuse you visually not having you perma stunned confused with stacks of bleeds .
sorry for my english
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a way to punish fotm rerollers?
i support.
maxed magic find and you dont want to kill stuff?
i hate mounts i dont want mounts
MM necro is a reason to even stop playing the game, the most poor designed class in an mmo ever having 10 pets around him that are tanky and make damage i see them standing at capture points and almost no one approaches them, spirit ranger is ok in comparison with them.
and this might be personal or because im a guardian but i absolutely hate mesmers.Interrupt Moa mesmer shuts that down. But it is stupid when you have to fight cheesy specs with even cheesier specs.
well at the end of the day pvp means business , i started playing cheesy build my self sometimes but then i get bored and switch to something more balanced lol
MM necro is a reason to even stop playing the game, the most poor designed class in an mmo ever having 10 pets around him that are tanky and make damage i see them standing at capture points and almost no one approaches them, spirit ranger is ok in comparison with them.
and this might be personal or because im a guardian but i absolutely hate mesmers.
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i love using heals at jormag just saying
wish we had similar encounters where healer is king
but its the top tiers that benefit from it, its not like you can choose your opponent
I’ve been between T6-T8 for the past 13 months, and I haven’t heard about skill lag… It’s a issue that affect only the servers that field up mega blobs (T1-T2, and maybe T3).
There are free transfer to T5 T7 and T8… It’s your choice to stay where there is skill lag instead of moving out of it.
so i have to leave my mid tier server because im facing T3 blob?
why do you think our skills show an old man with white beard?
cause guardians are old men .
I posted in another thread about skill lag and that thread seems to have been deleted. It really ticks me off that threads are getting deleted about this issue. It needs to be addressed!
Stop stacking on top tiers and you won’t have skill lag… Problem solved.
Move on…
but its the top tiers that benefit from it its not like you can choose your opponent
its fine just missing some toughness sometimes but i have learned to be careful ,i get a lot kills in wvw with my staff and when i see good openings i use sword
maybe its not the best but im happy with it
but if you think that you can be a frontliner with it go for something else sentinel/knight/soldier/clerics will always be better for clashing
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its not so much about class but the amount of people, surely frontliners will be warriors and guardians on both sides but the server with the most people will surely win since player skills become unusable and surprisingly autoattack seems to still work, even stomping does not work you see the animation and nothing happens after ..
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hello there is it just me or blob servers just win by bringing massive amount of people lag the server to the point where you cant use any skill besides autoattack and take keeps in this way?
so if i dont want to play the game just join a blob and autoattack?
why is this game benefiting zerk so much?
cant imagine how awesome an asura would sound doing the /chicken
I don’t understand at all how a nerf to critical damage is a buff to healing signet at all, when all other classes’ heals are not affected at all.
because healing signet is superior to any other heal in the game
id like to see them have a chance to proc while hitting rather than be like pets that expire, isnt this a good idea?
not only its going to be effective it will be cool also
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with the crit damage reduction it might turn out to be a buff