it shows the rank of the class :
warriors are the best class so they have the best armor and best hp thats why they added them the best mobility and very good damage and condition cleansing and traits that automatically work on their own like half autopilot mode
i dont like other games i played every mmo you can imagine, maybe i will do jumping puzzles till the wvw resets and i hope they add rewards to spvp soon..
what to do when you are bored?
i did dungeons i have to wait two more days to craft my celestial helmet.
wvw is getting smacked by a spanish blob.
spvp has no rewards at the moment.
when is new patch coming out?
im really starting to get bored….
hello im thinking to change the skin of my sword to something smaller because my character is not of big size and big greatsword doesnt look good on me,
do smaller swords have smaller hitbox or is the reach the same with a longer sword?
you can simply not use it, but sometimes i wish i had more durability since my guardian is celestial and i get massive damage when i have to listen to wvw commanders .
i will occasionally use it since im not full bunker.
Theives are pretty much supposed to take you on and kill you if you are a straggler in WvW. And they do.
On the other hand, they are more or less useless in a large group and at best modestly useful in a small group fight.
The way to avoid thieves is to simply never travel alone in WvW.
Seems balanced to me.
even if so there should always be a chance for them to be defeated , i dont get this thing that they can reset a fight whenever they want and come back at you.
building your class selfishly should not mean a guaranteed win.
And Warrior? They cannot do the same?
not since launch , but yes warriors are monsters at the moment.
Theives are pretty much supposed to take you on and kill you if you are a straggler in WvW. And they do.
On the other hand, they are more or less useless in a large group and at best modestly useful in a small group fight.
The way to avoid thieves is to simply never travel alone in WvW.
Seems balanced to me.
even if so there should always be a chance for them to be defeated , i dont get this thing that they can reset a fight whenever they want and come back at you.
building your class selfishly should not mean a guaranteed win.
hello im a guy that crafts his ascended armor and weapons but i still have many stacks of empyrial fragments and bloodstone dust shall i keep all of them or shall i throw some away ?
will they have any other use in the future ?
it sounds logical since it will offer a bit to active gameplay
i find mace to be useful in spvp where the pressure is granted with traited symbols
but i would never use it in an out of it for any reason at the moment
i hope new patch gives guardian something different ..
since there is almost not a single guardian that does not use stand your ground why cant we have the choice to have it as trait than always and forever have a slot kept for it?
as a shout guardian the only shout that i can occasionally not use is save yourselves the other two seem mandatory .
and then you wonder why no one uses signets or spirit weapons , its because at the time its impossible.
spvp is different because fights are close and you have to complete objectives and cannot capture points in stealth
Yeah they are. And one promotes brainless zerging while the other you have to think a little bit when you’re fighting. Basically get some fresh air in sPvP, then come back to WvW and see how that thief fairs then.
i dont loose by all the thiefs in the game in wvw but the fact that they can stealth and reastelth until they win and having no chance to die makes them completely broken
“No chance”, no there is a chance… against people that can decently PvP.
i had thiefs that chased me on my guardian for literally 5 minuets either they killed me or no one died because they are impossible to kill
Did you purposely run into them? I mean if you have such problems… if you see them from a distance try to keep away from them (take another route). I’m guessing you “can’t” kill them because you think they’re OP right? You know they’re OP? This has nothing to do with your own skill level does it? Or the self imposed limit of “I can’t kill them because their OP so i shouldn’t even try”, what’s the point of trying right? Gets you nowhere in life.
“or no one died”, well great! What more do you want, they trolled you a bit on your way to your zerg and neither of you died, you made it to your zerg…. cool.
By the way… your post is beating a 2-year-old dead horse… that’s now turning into pulp from all the beating it gets on (semi-)daily basis. Thank you for making post 9,573 of “thieves OP – nerf or rework them”.
yes guys when speaking about someones class problems its always a l2p issue
thiefs / rogues in lineage 2 have not so much access to stealth and are still one of the top pvp classes
and even in wow that has terrible pvp rogues cant abuse stealth over and over and over again
If they rework stealth and compensate with better performance out of it, sure.
Literally in WvW thieves are good at roaming, they suck at zerging. Immortals, unkillable, invincible (often confused with invisible), no… try playing sPvP (even just hot join) for a few weeks instead of WvW, it should improve your overall PvP’ing skills, considering WvW rewards mindless zerging vs sPvP where you have to think a bit. Very good single damage, yeah… but that’s about it.
Is it okay for a class that only has one use? (that’s probably a bigger issue…)
Also, everyone else, please notice this is coming from a WvW perspective…
spvp is different because fights are close and you have to complete objectives and cannot capture points in stealth
i dont loose by all the thiefs in the game in wvw but the fact that they can stealth and reastelth until they win and having no chance to die makes them completely broken
i have never played a game that rogue/thief class can keep resetting the fight anytime they feel like
i had thiefs that chased me on my guardian for literally 5 minuets either they killed me or no one died because they are impossible to kill
seriously is it ok for the game to have a class that can chase you for 5 minuets in wvw , having all odds to kill you and having no chance to die is considered ok?
i know you will say that thiefs are not good in a zerk but you think its ok for the player that tries to find his team to have to fight someone in the road that has no chance to die and only kill you?
maybe reduce the stealth abuse and make thiefs perform better out of it?
why did you design them to be immortals i cant understand this and the funny thing is that they make very good damage aswell .
@Alri
A lot of living story maps and mechanisms are being turned into FotM. Not to mention GW2 has quite a lot to offer for that 60 dollers you paid for it. They’re even producing new content monthly, called “Living story”, free of charge.
Also, I’m fairly sure they’re not putting all the resources into living story, they got different development teams working on different parts of the game afaik.
we have seen a lot of living story and not much about classes lately, maybe im wrong but i get the idea that the game gives too much emphasis on living story than other parts of the game .
im putting a lot hopes on next balance patch atleast.
i said the dungeons are doable without being a zerker.
The dungeons are “doable” naked, in a 0/0/0/0/0 build or maybe even under both conditions (didn’t bother to look whether there is a video about that). So “doable” is hardly an argument for any kind of build.
im sure the threat creator did not ask if he can do dungeons with no traits or while being without armor so take your bitterness and sarcasm somewhere else
i use greatsword/ rifle and i still feel extremely powerful ,
never tried hammer but it seems i wont bother with it.
i rolled this warrior 3 days ago and i play better than with my guardian that i play since launch.
too bad valour has nothing for damage modifiers, which make much more difference than crit dmg. also, wow, 2 paths of arah!! good job, those paths are really hard and I’ve never seen zerkers do it well.
to OP – for survivability run hammer build (15/x/0/20/x) for perma protection and larger HP pool and if really necessary some knight’s gear.
did i compare my self with a zerker ?
i said the dungeons are doable without being a zerker.
even a guy like me that does not bother much with dungeons completed them.
so he can run non zerker if he wants to.
he will save the time of others ressing him in pugs aswell.
i completed every dungeon (all of them pugs) i entered till now and fractals till lvl 20(stopped doing them a long time ago because i got my asceneded back) with mostly exotic clerics gear and full valor full honor traits and knight greatsword .
did also two paths of arah.
dont roll guardian unless you want to do team pvp with friends that know what they do or be a part of a zerk.
only reason i didnt roll a warrior yet is because i did not figure out what race and name i will be.
personally guardian is not the class that i imagined them to be
when i saw warriors base health my jaw dropped to the floor and realized how much time i have wasted on this crippled class.
and i wont roll a warrior for its power but because i like mele combat.
and to people that say that HP doesnt matter it will always matter on classes that lack mobilty and have almost no cc like guardian
I felt the same as you, until I remembered which was the class that I liked the most in Dragon Age: arcane warrior.
Then i remembered how I loved tough characters with low health.
i have played lineage 2 and there was no heavy class that had the health of a robe class
anyway i made the wrong choice, you live you learn .
dont roll guardian unless you want to do team pvp with friends that know what they do or be a part of a zerk.
only reason i didnt roll a warrior yet is because i did not figure out what race and name i will be.
personally guardian is not the class that i imagined them to be
when i saw warriors base health my jaw dropped to the floor and realized how much time i have wasted on this crippled class.
and i wont roll a warrior for its power but because i like mele combat.
and to people that say that HP doesnt matter it will always matter on classes that lack mobilty and have almost no cc like guardian
Mace is always dismissed as a defensive weapon, It’s one of the best burst weapons we have. Mace/Torch has incredible spike damage, however this is for PvP/WvW. If you’re talking about PvE, you’re just better off going with sword. For the most part if you want sustain dps go sword, if you want burst go mace. Again this is for PvP/WvW.
i like sword for wvw for its extra mobilty but i never tried mace
mace is a static weapon with very slow swings it brings some support in dungeons and spvp but thats all.
sword has nice mobilty and more damage and its a weapon that will want to use mmore often than a mace
Beta is a testing phase … obviously you haven’t learned that the fact they changed it to lower HP after testing means it had an unintended impact to the game.
im not sayin its an issue its just that class took a different path we are mostly an enchanter class than anything else
we started as a tanky class and had the same HP as warrior but they nerfed us to the point that we are an enchanter class except if you go full bunker
Unless I’m mistaken, we were never in the same HP category as the warrior. If we were, it was at best only a few months at release or it’s because warriors got a buff to HP. That’s not really relevant anyways because anyone that identifies HP as a problem for Guardians in the game doesn’t understand the class in the first place.
HP is not a problem in SPvP but that being said, Guardian isn’t exactly a faceroll class either.
the fotm rerollers are killing the game and Anet doesnt do anything about it
Why should anet do something about people actually using a pvp build
It take max 2 minutes to reroll in this game there is no reason why you would use a build where you lose every time.
so we should all use warrior in pvp its bright clear now
You’ve been slashing and hacking your way through charr, mole-men, and aether-soldiers for the past week and now you’re having a moral dilemma about killing the chick that routinely drops orbital nukes on peaceful cities?
Personally, I felt like a pretty big kitten ed hero these last couple of events~
if i had a choice i really did not want her to die because she was a very interesting character she could stay alive and mess with both good and evil guys.
but i cant beat a ranger in a duel how im i supposed to be the one that killed her?
and why are lore characters so useless?
Rox: “i dont have to do anything” ehhm ok
I’m kinda shocked that being the main heroes means our characters are forced to commit murder on a beaten and defenseless enemy. I’d have preferred to capture her.
I wouldn’t call someone who keeps throwing and endless supply of bombs at you defenseless
they confirmed to her that they would kill her and then she started throwing bombs
