I made a similar suggestion, but it got merged into an over 9000 comment thread. Just sell ascended armor at the dungeon token vendors, 10k per piece.
The exact same thing just happened to 3 of us trying to sell Arah path 4. One of us got a whisper from a certain person who is known for destroying instances, but unfortunately I cannot name and shame. They “warned” us that we cannot sell p4 at 15g, I noticed another group was selling at 18g at the time. A few minutes later, someone joined our party, and merged us with another party selling path 2. So our instance was destroyed by some random person, and we could do absolutely nothing about it. We got another whisper saying “I warned you last week that you can only sell at the agreed upon 18gold for path 4 only”. Not only were we not even selling last week, but what the actual kitten is that? So now there’s one person who decides what price we can sell for? And if you don’t comply with the “agreed upon” rate they destroy your instance. Honestly so angry that Anet can allow such a stupid bug to persist for so long. I don’t even think they are doing anything about it. It’s just safer to stick to the LFG website because you are completely vulnerable due to ANYONE being able to destroy the instance YOU created. Please tell me how genius this merge option is.
It’s the seller mafia.
There is no shame in using someone else’s build. It’s simply math.
Odds are they had high might, high vuln, fury and banners. 75-80k hits is pretty high, so they must’ve been pretty buffed. They may have more ascended than you, their scholar runes were possibly proccing where maybe yours don’t as much. They have the extra 10% from their gs since yours is equipped with bloodlust. There’s a good number of modifiers they probably have over you.
Edit – And like Neko said, always use proper rotations. That is very important for dps output.
Edit 2 – I just noticed you said you mostly pug. You will never see those kind of numbers in a pug.
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You’re watching vids of organized runs. There is usually 25 bloodlust stacks, 25 mights stacks, 25 vuln stacks, fury, strength and discipline banners, possibly frost spirit and spotter.
TIP: Get rid of the bloodlust on your greatsword. Make yourself a GS with Night sigil and one with force, or a few with enemy specific sigils. Make an axe and mace with bloodlust on each. You’ll stack twice as fast, then swap in your dps axe/mace after you max stacks.
the reason the only way to acquire ascended by crafting and not tokens is because it is supposed to be hard…
Crafting isn’t hard, unless you mean hard to stay awake.
It is hard i mean it need time, you need time to farm the ascended material and the gold you need to do it, exept if you are from the ones that play 24/7 so you probably can make ascended weapon in 2-3 days….
It would take plenty of time to buy an ascended piece with 10k dungeon tokens as well. I’m just asking for more methods than just crafting.
I hate merge.
Deadeyes. Technicians.
Dodging after 2s and stability is like top notch pro? In p2 after the first fail at the end mobs fight eachother.
They aren’t fighting each other by time you get back there if you died. I’m talking about the more difficult section after the boat, not the easy part before the boat, although you can just use the boat and skip it anyway, but that takes longer yet. That run is more difficult than anything in p3, plus p2 is longer.
the reason the only way to acquire ascended by crafting and not tokens is because it is supposed to be hard…
Crafting isn’t hard, unless you mean hard to stay awake.
Ok 10k for one piece might be pushing it….
Less would be cool too. Just more options please! Crafting is killing my soul.
What about dungeon tokens, badges of honor, pristine fractal relics etc? Even if it’s like 10k dungeon tokens for 1 piece, that would be awesome. Make it so!
Staff guards are in for a treat tomorrow. No spoilers plz
…It will prove you wrong
Yo. What’s up?
Seems like you missed the thread he made about it: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/Lupi-Staff-Guardian-Solo/first#post3300991
He missed the memo, staff/staff guard is the new meta.
Obal has a ton of great guardian vids.
dps guardian in general
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/guardian/Guide-DPS-Guardian-for-PVE
Obal also did a number of ranger in 48 fractal vids quite a while back. Not really a guide, more a proof that ranger weren’t utterly worthless I guess. I’m too lazy to search for them though they’re probably on his channel.
Here are video guides to dungeons albeit old.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/Video-Guides-To-all-Explorable-Mode-Dungeons
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All the bosses are fun to deal with except probably Gigantus Lupicus.
Lupi is the most fun boss, although we have to solo, duo and take sub-optimal groups to make it interesting at this point.
Be just tanky enough to stay alive. You can swap in zerk gear for your knights as you get better and learn the content, boss animations etc better. The more dps you can muster, the more you’re helping your team, especially with guardian since you can still have all the support your team needs for fractals while running dps. You could try a hammer dps build, you’ll still get pretty good numbers and have perma protection.
Content is much easier when the whole team is zerk, but you can run full on dps in pugs if you’re experienced enough. Looking for like minded friends is a good idea for your sanity. When tanky groups extend battles for so long, the zerker is bound to suffer, and none of them care that you’re doing half the damage yourself. They only care if they see you’re falling more often then they are, scrub zerker.
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They’re probably just sick of completely terrible players, newbies, people who can’t read and/or idiots.
You should try pugging AC p1 once in a while. No guild members or friends.
Haha, yeah. Funny how it’s easier to drag bad pugs through arah than AC. I had three players with less than 900 AP and one with 1500 AP for Arah p2 last night, only the 1500 guy had run arah before. Sure it took about 45 mins, but I’m not sure I could have completed any AC path with them.
If the leader DC’s or go’s offline he no longer is party leader and it does not effect the remaining members of the group. The person who opens fractals can even leave the instance to repair now as long as they don’t change the character they are using. Are you sure your not being kicked?
I thought this too, but I (party leader) tried to switch to my alt during a fractal and my party got kicked out of the dungeon. They were not happy, and neither was I.
That’s what he said. You can’t switch characters if you’re the instance owner, this results in a dungeon kick. Zerotwo is saying the instance owner can leave the instance or go offline and the instance and party will stay intact, which is true.
Although he did say if the party leader goes offline, they’re no longer the party leader. I’m pretty sure that person remains party leader (instance owner).
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I think the op is saying he wants the game to become pay2win. He wants to add stat gear to the gem shop which currently has gear that does not affect game play. He wants to add gear that affects game play, thus making it a pay2win game. Amirite?
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Anyone will take those leaderboards seriously?
About as seriously as the achievement leader board.
So basically it’s still a ripoff to infuse back pieces before the patch?
Greatsword damage (does not apply to FGS) does 50% less damage. Bye wars/guards =).
I wonder if instabilities will apply to ranger pets. Could bearbows be the new meta?
That could be good actually. Bad warriors and guards could learn they shouldn’t be camping greatsword for dps in the first place. Would barely affect good warriors and guards though.
A Warrior with a GS is not bad, a warrior with ONLY a GS is bad.
I said warriors camping greatsword.
I find both to be pretty kittenty because the might only lasts for a very short time, but VoJ might is less terrible IMO because it doesn’t require you to swap to a weak weaponset (especially if you are in combat).
Also, don’t forget that Gandalf actually had a 1H sword mainhand, and only really used his staff for utility and helping his party skip bosses. He didn’t camp staff while fighting.
Gandalf is an elitist exploiter!
Yuck, why are they moving these to this forum. It’s still a dungeon.
According to someone I ran arah path 1 with, buffing your party with 12 might every 20 seconds is better than actually dealing damage yourself. He said he likes to play efficiently and called me annoying.
Empower swap to hammer or GS. Do damage for 20s. Swam to staff Empower switch back to main do damage, swap etc etc.
How hard is that? lol
Because you’re stuck on useless staff in battle for 10 seconds. It’s much more efficient to use blast finishers for might. Much longer duration and you don’t have to sit on a useless weapon.
Very nice!
Fast!
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Did some arah runs with all four newbs last night. One group was 4 guardians and a necro (I will only go with 4 new people on guardian). We get to lupi and I tell them about the stack range method. We start and two of them start auto attacking with staff. Rest assured it was a long lupi fight considering they were all support as well. Kind of fun though since it seemed surreal.
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You guys went to school? You invested your time to get certain degree? New curriculum introduced and they told you your degree no longer valid?
That’s the type of equity wiped make people upset. Real life & in game.
If you don’t understand this principle, I don’t have anything more to say.That sort of stuff happens in real life too. You either learn the new content to refresh your degree/certification or you find a new line of work. So here you either learn the new mechanics they’re adding in at level 30 or you find another game/part of gw2 to play.
O rly!? In real life all your old degrees get deleted as if they never happened?
they dont delete them, it just doesnt give you any access to anything of value for having it. lets say you got certified in windows 95, thats pretty useless these days. In general your degree is only an entry point now, and you are expected to periodically upgrade it via either experience or further studies.
lets say you learned cadkey in college, now they use autodesk, unless you kept up, yur left behind.
Exactly. Just like we periodically upgraded our fractal level. If we didn’t keep up, we got left behind. Sorry, but older degrees don’t get deleted. Do you not list old degrees on a resume? You do. You even list degrees not associated with the job most of the time.
It would simply be pure axe. Axe/mace axe/warhorn, barely a change in dps. Guardians would be sword auto. Loss of gs wouldn’t be that bad, especially in an organized setting because now there’d be even more might from blast finishers.
I figured it would be axe/mace & axe/horn. But I thought the 100b and whirlwhind (against a wall) would be a significant lose in dps. Oh well.
How about melee weapons 50% less damage lol. Or it could be like the mesmer GS, you do more damage the further away you are.
Now you’re talking. Good god I hope they don’t do something like that…
Greatsword damage (does not apply to FGS) does 50% less damage. Bye wars/guards =).
I wonder if instabilities will apply to ranger pets. Could bearbows be the new meta?
That could be good actually. Bad warriors and guards could learn they shouldn’t be camping greatsword for dps in the first place. Would barely affect good warriors and guards though.
It would screw with warrior rotation. I don’t know what the new rotation would be though. 100b and whirlwind was a big part of the deeps.
As far as guardians go, I’m not very familiar with them.
It would simply be pure axe. Axe/mace axe/warhorn, barely a change in dps (dps gain in some situations). Guardians would be sword auto. Loss of gs wouldn’t be that bad, especially in an organized setting because now there’d be even more might from blast finishers.
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You guys went to school? You invested your time to get certain degree? New curriculum introduced and they told you your degree no longer valid?
That’s the type of equity wiped make people upset. Real life & in game.
If you don’t understand this principle, I don’t have anything more to say.That sort of stuff happens in real life too. You either learn the new content to refresh your degree/certification or you find a new line of work. So here you either learn the new mechanics they’re adding in at level 30 or you find another game/part of gw2 to play.
O rly!? In real life all your old degrees get deleted as if they never happened?
Greatsword damage (does not apply to FGS) does 50% less damage. Bye wars/guards =).
I wonder if instabilities will apply to ranger pets. Could bearbows be the new meta?
That could be good actually. Bad warriors and guards could learn they shouldn’t be camping greatsword for dps in the first place. Would barely affect good warriors and guards though.
There’s lots of videos of dungeons being solo’d, especially Arah p2.
I usually just use 10/30/0/5/25 because that’s what I regularly run with and hopping in Arah p2 solo is usually spur of the moment because I’m bored. I don’t do it as often as many people though. I should look into changing it up for solo, I’ll see what other people are using.
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Hes referring to you actually listening to good advice. Many people turn a blind eye and refuse to accept that clerics or w/e is not as helpful to a team as dps. So basically you have restored the faith we have in humanity.
not quite, the best compo for any dungeon is 4 dps and a support-ish, why? well most bosses are killed via stack and smash, but if all 5 players are squishy and have no protection/healing it has high chances of failing, just think about CoF path 1 1st boss, CoE Subject alpha, SE path 3 last boss… you can argue that all those bosses can be survived by dodging, but lets be realists here, not much people, specially those that play glass canon, know the trick to survive dodging and you know, GW2’s philosophy is to avoid specialization, never play a full tank, healer or dps
You’ve never actually seen full zerk runs have you. It is not gw2’s philosophy to avoid specialization, the philosophy is supposed to be play how you want. In this context with the trinity gone, it is not only possible, but most effective to run with a full zerk team.
You couldn’t have given a worse example to argue your point. Everyone that has done CoE a handful of times know how to dodge the Alpha aoe. A high dps team will kill his final version in ~15 seconds and the earlier versions will be killed sometimes before he even does an aoe. I’ve been in lower dps groups where the fight goes slower and people start running out of vigor to dodge his aoe. This fight is a prime example of the supremacy of a full dps team.
Check out the dps guardian sticky and the fractal 48 guide by obal. You won’t get those kind of runs with support guardian.
I have 120 pristine relics, do you really think that Anet will give us other uses for them? I would be sitting on a gold mine if that was the case.
That would depend how they implement the currency exchange. If they let you exchange your pristine relics for other ascended items (Amulets, earrings, ascended weapon components, etc.), which are of course account bound or soulbound, I do not see what the harm would be. In fact, it would make sense.
You should be able to buy ascended related gear with pristine relics from the BUY 4373.
They could be used for recipes, buying fractal skins or even just converting them to regular fractal relics.
I can’t help but think something will happen with pristines and rings in the future. It just seems so unfinished as it is now.
Very nice!
15/chars
Run in starter areas and get newbs. They often need help learning the game and sometimes have no friends. Be their friend and show them the game and you’ll gain their loyalty.
Because reading is exactly like doing.
The guide would be a good supplement at least. The guide shows newbs how the content works and even fractal pros can learn good strategies.
Anet please! I can’t bring myself to vendor these rings for fear of them being useful later. A definitive answer would be great!
I’ve received nothing but kindness and help from the “elitists”.
I started last Halloween. Despite previously playing 2 console games competitively, this was my fist pc game and I was overwhelmed to say the least. I was a keyboard turner for probably 2 months. I joined a guild where everyone wore PVT armor, so I did the same thinking they must know what they’re talking about.
My guild hated dungeons. But dungeons were what I wanted to do. So when I finally talked them into doing dungeons with me, I found out why they hated them so much. We did AC exp and it was a nightmare. That’s when I started visiting this forum and saw basically the opposite of what my guild was preaching. I thought a full dps team couldn’t work for sure, but then I saw the DnT videos and was amazed. I was even more amazed when I first saw Weth’s lupi solo. I was surprised how everyone here openly shared their builds and strategies. So I adopted the builds and strategies and pugged, and pugged and pugged and improved. Then the first time obal taught me how to run Arah, it was awesome to see someone who knew how to play and wasn’t just pressing random skills as they came off cd whilst running around like a chicken with their head cut off (pretty much all pugs back in December).
Fast forward to today. I’m in 2 elite guilds, have solo’d lupi and I’m in a couple record runs. All thanks to the “elitists” in this forum, otherwise I’d still be running 30 minute AC’s and probably never do Arah.
Yeah, definitely not my cup of tea. I’m mostly just looking for some sort of use for these items. Even if I can just craft the runes and sell them, that’s something…
Shards are used to craft the new runes
Awesome, thank you!
I was really thinking that when the big fractal update finally hit, something would be done about these items. The whole concept still seems so unfinished with these loose ends.
Shards, globs and vials are all useless after a certain point. It only seems logical that these items be used in more ascended recipes.
Rings have been piling up in peoples banks and will continue to do so. Why are these unsalvageable when the previous bis gear could be salvaged. We all know how things get changed up, many of us would hate to vendor all our rings only to find out they can be salvaged in the future. A definitive answer on this would be nice, so we can finally just vendor them if nothing will be changed about them.
Pristine fractal relics another useless item after a certain point. Any chance these will be used in recipes or purchasing of other items in the future?
Love how they’re still calling it infinite.
I see a lot of “I am special snowflake! I demand I be recognized!” going on.
1. This is a game, not a job. If you “WORKED” for it, that is on you.
2. Play the game for fun. If it is no longer fun, don’t play.
3. High level fractals WAS its own reward.
4. The fun you had, you had. No one can take that away from you.
So would it be cool to reset the entire game? Many things have changed since beta and early adopters have an unfair advantage from TP trading to Achievement Leaderboards. So they really should just reset the whole game and no one should care that they need to start over and all that playtime is erased, because they can’t take away the fun we had.
LFG atm ingame allow to look up to lvl 49 fom.
I have 2 level 50 fom character both with infused backpack (2 on mesmer, 1 on thief).
Now anet it’s going to rollback my 2 char to level 30 and to take me off infusion from the 3 backpack that ive paid 250 ecto each.
750 ecto on actual trademill cost are like 240 gold.
this is really easy anet, i’m not interested at all about what your great game designers think or not, a software house cant take off what players earned playing in legit way so if this will be the patch you have to gave me back 240gold\750 ecto or you will lose a customer and you’ll gain an angry nerd spamming on mmo forum xD
i’m sorry i dont want to QQ but it’s unacceptable you take me off something i paid 750 ecto.
It seems technically we aren’t losing the AR. It’s just in a different spot now. It seems we did far overpay for it though as now we’ll get the AR just from playing fractals and not buying with ecto.
When you infused your back piece for the extra +5AR, you did so because you needed/wanted the extra AR to advance in fractals. And this was one of the few ways to do so.
You knew at that time that eventually new ways to get AR would come out. The addition of ascended weapons led to an easier/cheaper source of +5AR than infusing a back piece. The future release of ascended armor will do the same.
You will not be losing your +5AR, and if obtaining a new +5AR infusion ends up being cheaper than what it cost you initially than that is the cost of being an early adopter.
You knew that the cost of that extra +5AR was very high initially, you knew that other methods of increasing your AR would eventually be released, and you are not losing anything.
You missed the point. If you read the op, you’ll see that people were unclear what was happening with the infusions slots. And early adopter?? Do you realize how long those recipes have been available? Since the beginning of fractals…
I’m pretty sure they introduced these recipes when they introduced fractals last November. And it was not a secret, they did announce early on that there will be more ways to obtain AR in the future. They’ve just taken their sweet time with it.
Exactly, so I really don’t see how we’re early adopters considering the recipes have been available for a year.
When you infused your back piece for the extra +5AR, you did so because you needed/wanted the extra AR to advance in fractals. And this was one of the few ways to do so.
You knew at that time that eventually new ways to get AR would come out. The addition of ascended weapons led to an easier/cheaper source of +5AR than infusing a back piece. The future release of ascended armor will do the same.
You will not be losing your +5AR, and if obtaining a new +5AR infusion ends up being cheaper than what it cost you initially than that is the cost of being an early adopter.
You knew that the cost of that extra +5AR was very high initially, you knew that other methods of increasing your AR would eventually be released, and you are not losing anything.
You missed the point. If you read the op, you’ll see that people were unclear what was happening with the infusions slots. And early adopter?? Do you realize how long those recipes have been available? Since the beginning of fractals…
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Lot of people with reading problems here.
All INFUSED backpieces and rings will have a second infusion slot (already slotted with a +5 AR infusion) instead of the native +5 AR.
Does it cost 250 ectos to put a +5 in the infusion slot for uninfused back pieces?
people who transmuted their legendarys got off the hook when ascended weapons came out …
Not really. They spent transmutation crystals that they otherwise wouldn’t have had to spend.

