I’m often very surprised how many women play this game. This is my first pc game however. I come from competitive console fps and fighter games, in which women seem very few and far between.
I’d totally play this story modes with all cutscenes, killing all enemies and totally accepting that I have 0 experience in dungeons and no desire to be super competitive.
I had the idea that such players didn’t exist, but it seems I’m wrong.
I think most people are like that early on. The first time I did each dungeon, I watched all cut scenes. I also wasn’t a fan of trash skipping, mostly because I didn’t realize how easy it is to stay alive once you know what to expect. After you’ve played all dungeons numerous times, it becomes more about efficiency.
Early on, exploring and surviving the dungeon was fun. Now I find being as fast and efficient as possible to be fun. Neither is wrong, just different outlooks. Being as transparent as possible in the lfg will help players group with like minded people.
Only Laharl has that godly patience. After playing the game this long.
Haha, taking new people is pretty fun for me. Guild runs are awesome and all, but lupi always dies in under a minute and there’s never a danger of dying. With new people I’m at risk of dying and I can’t control lupi. Just makes the fight a little more interesting.
The swipe is a pretty easy dodge, maybe you have lag or something. How do you do with the kick in p1? You have to whirlwind a tad early because it has a slight delay.
Generally I don’t whirlwind for the phase 2 aoe, I just dodge back and sword block as I walk back to him. Whirlwind is fine for solo, but it’s a little more dangerous when 5 manning because of more aoe’s, so you’re timing has to be good.
BALANCE PVE professions…..
Just to start with something
There is some truth in this statement, however I want to remind you that you can not balance the lack of skill. Eles are great damage dealers already , however a lot of ele players run horrible builds for dungeons (aurashare for example) with horrible gearsets (celestial would be godly compared to it), even if you buff eles, those people wont go. Same goes for rangers, they can deal very decent dps, however 99% are longbow camping. Now of course some things can be balanced out, for example how necros bring very little use to your party, but tbh there needs to be a way to really show players how much of an anchor they really are for their groups. (inb4 a quadrillion h4t3r5 show up).
Sword is only good for single target melee boss kill or cluster target mob fights.
Lots of people complaint or are affraid of ranger for nothing. I run jaguard longbow/axe-horn with zerker armor and ive never been kicked out of a group for my class or my spec because i actualy get thing done. However i always offer to use any class amonst my list of 7 (because i play ranger warrior necro ele guardian thief and mesmer) when it comes to a more specialised group with specific needs (aka speedclear wich i rarely join by lack of interest), I didnt down the priestess of dwayna with my ranger but with a specialy prepared full zerk warrior spec i made for the occasion its all a mather of adaptation because a class may be good in a dungeon and fail utherly in another. For most dungeon i wont bother joining speed clear group because ive got little interest into getting thing done quickly i just want to get it done so ill just take my zerk beast mastery ranger in any instance or fractal i want done when im bored (because ranger and necro are actualy quite of fun altrought maybe you guys have forgot after all this time spamming the same rotation or button mashing constantly the same thing on a single class) and i do get bored realy quick when constantly playing the same class over and over so i prety much class switch every instance i do.
Just because im running ranger doesnt mean im mind closed ive been testing every single build i run on dummies in spvp and taking asking around advice or looking other build used by player before i use them in dungeons and theres always an actual logic behind my trait/weapon choice so its not like im actualy ’’testing’’ random stuff in dungeons if im actualy using a longbow on a ranger its because i tested the damage and approved the results. Im aware of one handed sword dps but im also aware that the weapon itself doesnt fit the spec (i made that spec in mind to deal as many critical hit within the smallest amount of time possible in order to stack pet might)
This is always a step toward a maximised effectiveness and polyvalance and not a choice of actual playstyle.
If every single player used their head more and created and tested their build themselves beforehand working tirelessly for the best playstyle/effectiveness wed likely get better players in general and we wouldnt need to be constantly be worried about if a guy is using a very bad build or not. Can you realy pretend after testing it out your build isnt a total failure if the result wasnt satisfying?
Note: I dont join party i make my own i like to keep control of who i want in or out so im always the one to open the dungeon and i keep a friend or two with me for a quick kick when a guy is just behing outright lame or just wont take a hint when i try to explain him how the dungeon work. Damage effiency isnt competance, i dont care if your a zerk warrior or a staff guardian if you actualy are a problem because you have a bad attitude or just dont wanna learn the place playing the ‘’i know everything but i actualy know nothing’’ act you likely gunna get a quick kick the moment this becomes a burden to the team progression. Theres a lot of reason i would kick a player out but the class and spec isnt amonst them as long as you can be helpful.
You’re a detriment to every pug you enter and you don’t even realize it. I don’t kick based on class (unless we asked for a specific class of course), but I would kick based on build.
I’d rather keep a person who is new to the dungeon but who has a good build over a “pro” with a horrible build like yours. At least the person with the good build right up front demonstrates a willingness to bring peak effectiveness to the team instead of saying I do what I want, screw the team
Yeah he wasn’t only doing it to Arah sellers he was merging parties together for anyone doing Arah. Heitred.5729 is the person who has been doing this forawhile. Don’t care if you aren’t supposed to say peoples names. He was also going into parties who were telling people not to post through the lfg and changing their descriptions so people couldn’t advertise to others to not post.
Yeah, the guy does this pretty much every minute he’s on. I ran a few people through Arah p4 the other, they said he and a friend kicked them at the end of a previous p4, blocked them and sold the path (the issue came up because he joined the lfg at the beginning). So he kicks sellers all day long and kicks pugs and sells himself. He’s been doing this for quite a while now and hasn’t been banned.
There are different builds for a reason. Tanks guardians, DPS guardians, etc. are all useful have have their own uses. Just because someone uses full clerics doesn’t mean that their bad. It means that they’re going for support instead of dps. Why don’t we appreciate the variation that the guardian can do. Your cup of team may be DPS guard, but it is not everyone’s tea. Other people may like coffee better, so they go support. (I’m not calling any type of guardian a certain substance, but just a different flavor.) Some people have different ideas about the guardian, and should be allowed to mess with their own builds until they have what they want exactly in a build. Instead of elite zerg or selfish cleric, why don’t we go with dps and support. I hope that i at least tried to argue for build diversity, and won it with some people.
I felt the same way when I first started. But once you realize the nature of pve in this game, you realize how useless and bad for your team non-dps builds are. Dps guardian still has all the support needed for any pve content in the game. Until there are drastic changes, full dps groups will always fair better than balanced.
Even though best dps is the fastest way to get through content because anet made all classes heal themselves and 99.99999% of pve is stupid easy. Everyone has a way to play where it makes it fun for them. I guess that is the point of what I’m trying to say. If the game is not fun, then why play at all. So if you find a more support build more fun then I understand why you do so. I know some people will disagree with me, but honestly have fun with your class. Don’t make it a trudge for yourself to play a certain way because it the most dps way.
I don’t necessarily find a support build to be fun. I find being useful to my team to be fun. When I started I thought being mainly support was useful. Eventually, as I learned the game, I found that is not at all true. So I switched to dps while providing the right kind of support. I find that being peak usefulness to my team is the most fun for me.
We all meet cool people in pugs, but those aren’t the stories that are interesting to tell. “Hey I met a cool guy in CoE the other day, he was pretty good. I put him on my friend list, now we play every now and then.”
There are different builds for a reason. Tanks guardians, DPS guardians, etc. are all useful have have their own uses. Just because someone uses full clerics doesn’t mean that their bad. It means that they’re going for support instead of dps. Why don’t we appreciate the variation that the guardian can do. Your cup of team may be DPS guard, but it is not everyone’s tea. Other people may like coffee better, so they go support. (I’m not calling any type of guardian a certain substance, but just a different flavor.) Some people have different ideas about the guardian, and should be allowed to mess with their own builds until they have what they want exactly in a build. Instead of elite zerg or selfish cleric, why don’t we go with dps and support. I hope that i at least tried to argue for build diversity, and won it with some people.
I felt the same way when I first started. But once you realize the nature of pve in this game, you realize how useless and bad for your team non-dps builds are. Dps guardian still has all the support needed for any pve content in the game. Until there are drastic changes, full dps groups will always fair better than balanced.
People seriously need to whine less about non-zerk guardians. I see no purpose running zerk in all the low tier/easy dungeons when the difference in speed is negligible. If you really must be anal about speed, don’t run with pugs at all. The time you waste kicking that non-zerk guardian probably balance it out when you do get that zerk class you want in these easy dungeons.
Many times the people that are gear checking are doing many runs. A person running a good build will often also have a better grasp on the mechanics of the content. All it takes sometimes is one person to slow things down.
Sometimes my guild will run premade with 3-4 guildies and get a pug or two. Even with a couple of gear checked pugs we would finish a full tour possibly hours ahead of a regular pug.
I agree, and that all sounds great in theory, but im not that great of a player and i never run in organised groups.
For example when i first went full zerker i went and tried it out inside the Nightmare Ends story dungeon. When i was AH i could kill everything and never die, but as a zerker i had to take on one elite enemy at a time or i would die, even then that one elite enemy would take half my health.
Then one time i got a debuff, i could not dodge, could not heal, i already used Purging Flames and Absolute Resolution but because debuffs are applied so rapidly there was nothing i could do but watch that debuff tick away and kill me, that would have never happened in AH build.
I know this all comes down to me just being a bad player, but i just dont understand how people survive in full Zerker. Even auto attacks kill you.
Honestly, I was the exact same way. I relied on AH build for so long, I didn’t have to learn the mechanics of the fights. When I first went full zerker dps I was dying a lot, this was before I joined a dungeon guild, I was still pugging a lot. Slowly, I learned the encounters and became better. It doesn’t mean you’re a bad player, just used to a different style.
I’m by no means an exceptional player. This is my first PC game, I’m older than most players and have a little slower twitch reaction (I don’t learn as fast anymore either). But after playing with the build long enough, and lots of practice, I’ve now solo’d arah, including lupi and I duo it everyday. I’ve become quite good at all dungeons. Considering that last January I was a keyboard turner, I’ve come a long way. If I can do it I think many can.
If the build isn’t for you, then it just isn’t. But I think if you continue at it, you’ll find find dungeons more engaging and eventually have more fun.
Try some knight pieces until you get the hang of it.
It’s perfectly playable if you are good at dodging, don’t waste aegis, know when to blind, when to reflect, when to cleanse and when to shelter.
Oh sorry, I didn’t realise this class was solely for elitists. My bad.
lol dodging is elitism now.
Get the memo fade, geez.
Imagines Svarty in game
He rage quits pug dungeon when he sees people dodging. Goes to guild chat “You wouldn’t believe these mean elitists! They were DODGING!! I will not be a part of their filthy elitism!”.
As a Arah seller, I had friend making proxy party (make a fake party and advertise in the lfg tool) and sending only legit buyer to me, this way if someone was going to destroy the instance, he only merge a fake party and mine stay intact. But if you are truly looking for people and need the LFG tool to find people, no there is not.
This. It’s the only way to really protect yourself through the lfg. Even my proxy was merged 8 times within 20 minutes last night. The main NA sell kicker is so serious about it, you’d think he’s getting paid to destroy instances.
I’m sure most sellers know who the kicker is by now and have him on block. If he is on, you will be kicked from your instance if you post on lfg without a proxy.
trolling the lfg tool?
Oh I know what he means, like when those bowbears and AH guard leeches join speedclear parties and waste everyone’s time.
Or when you set expectations such as 8k+ AP and ascended/zerker for even the easiest dungeons. Sure, it’s your party and you’re entitled to set whatever expectations you want to set. For all I care, you can ask for only people who drive Mercedes newer than 2008, and kick anyone who drives BMW. That doesn’t make it any less ridiculous, though.
When I join a party and get asked to ping my gear, I assume they are just looking for an excuse to boot me, and if it’s not my gear, it will be my build, or my character model. I just leave immediately, so they can continue to search for their ideal player.
That’s some next level paranoia right there. When you’re asked to ping your gear, every thought runs through your head except the obvious one.
Just so you know, they are just looking for fast, easy runs, none of your above nonsense. Sure, there are some jerks out there, but most are just regular people wanting fun, easy dungeons.
You have 25 might stacks from team buffs.
You have glass cannon traits.
You are fighting a mob that has low toughness.
The mob has 25 stacks of vulnerability.
You have empower allies buff from warrior.
You have banner of strength and discipline from warrior.
So basically you are getting 875 + 150 + 170 = 1190 additional power,170 precision and 15% crit damage from team might buffs, team traits, and banners.
We don’t have empower allies.
There was 2 empower buffs..the grey boxes,with the white circle is empower.
Also,you had ranger spirit 10% dmg buff.
Too bad you couldnt have WvW buffs tho,thatd be quite interesting to see.
More likely it was 1x Empower Allies + 1x Spotter ( the grey icons ) and 2x Frost Spirit ( the blue, traited and untraited )
I was referring to regular guild runs versus alpha as someone mentioned earlier. I’m not in this video. But yeah, they probably did run EA for this vid to get peak numbers.
If cleric or PVT guards want to staff empower, fine. They’re barely at a dps loss camping staff anyway. I just couldn’t see myself camping staff in a pug just to give them more might. I would consider my personal dps more important.
With warrior I always run rage signet in pugs, as I feel my personal dps carries more weight. But for organized groups, I’ll sometimes drop warbanner for the team. With guardian it just seems prudent to always be on your high dps weapons. With sword focus you can at least blast for 3 mights stacks of much longer duration, plus the block and blind. The gs has good dps and utility – blind, gap closer and pull. I’d hate to lose the dps and utility of those weapons, when Empower in a pug is questionable at best.
Maybe for runs, then an Empower at the beginning of a short trash kill. But I’d hate to be stuck on staff for any fight that lasts more than 20 seconds.
In my opinion, Soldier runes invite bad play. You should almost never be running a full shout bar. The main shouts, like Retreat, should not be used for Condi removal. You should probably just go with ruby orbs or scholar runes. If you’re trying to get into more of a speed run group, you should start playing the part.
I’ll put you in the friend list for when we need a pug. You sound like a level headed guy with good potential. Plus that bowbear ranger we got last night….ugh.
I look at it as, if I’m in a pug, I’m probably doing a lion’s share of the dps. So I would rather keep myself on high dps weapons at all times. Also, if you’re using Empower at every cool down, that’s just to much staff camping for me.
There’s a demand for the Arah tokens, so players are filling that demand. It keeps players who would rather not do Arah out of there, assuming they’re willing to pay for the convenience.
Rather not do Arah? I have trouble finding people who want to do Arah and are willing to teach new people. I have only found 2 groups in the past few weeks trying to do Arah that were not selling or demanding only experienced players (checking every time I have 3 hours).
Make your own party.
This. Also, feel free to whisper me in game. I’ve been doing more newb runs again lately.
Most sellers are not the awsome soloers that solo/duo a dungeon and then sell empty spots for Gs.They kick players out that help them and then sell their spots.A guildmate of mine had that happen to him on a fractals 40+ run.
And even in the case of “legit” selling some kind of mechanic eploit is used. Either for skipping or making the boss stack on low % while the buyer enlistment goes on.
Also if ANET is ok for promoting run selling that is just a lazy excuse for not FIXING the dungeons so they are less of a chore (especially Arah) and more of a fun thing to do without loosing the challenge element.
Most sellers are definitely not kicking people. I will admit, one of the instances of mine the guy destroyed was a p4 in which I skipped to lupi (killing lupi and everything after). But he also destroyed a completely legit p2 duo. And he killed the instance of a friend who did a legit p1 solo, my friend had paid pugs 1g each to help with Shaggroth, so he was out money and time and didn’t exploit. Now I just try to use fillers, especially if the kicker is on.
A lot of the US sell kicks come from one guy. He’s griefed dozens upon dozens of instances, and he’s still playing everyday. I find it unbelievable he hasn’t been banned yet.
cough heitred cough
I just spent the last 30 mins making fake parties and messing with a certain cough someone. He would keep joining and breaking the party up, meanwhile I would get legit buyers and send them on to my seller friend. Once i got suppressed because he had broken my party so many times I just simply logged onto another one of my accounts and did it all over again. I get this feeling he’s about the punch a fist through his monitor. Naturally I let him know when we got a party full of legit buyers along with how much money we made
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I don’t think he even plays the game anymore, just logs on to kick. Everytime I see him online he is destroying instances. That’s a good way to counteract him. You probably put his party join on cooldown too.
Well funnily enough I do have a list of good pugs, I was just explaining the method in general. I also play rather sporadically, sometimes at 4am, other times midday. Not everyone is always available. I keep a list of people with labels on them in my friends tab. Usually something like ‘Warrior Dungeon’ or ‘Mesmer Dungeon’ then I just type in the nickname and if I need for eg. a mesmer my whole list comes up. I like to keep adding more good pugs to my collection, I even add a few of the ones that weren’t as good because they show promise and are willing to learn more tactic wise.
Most times I just run with my guild tbh. I pug maybe once a week.
You can label people in your friend tab? I need to do this. I end up not knowing who’s who.
And op, advertising for “fast run” when you’re not even in zerker? C’mon. I joined a “full melee” arah p3 run a while back. Turned out to be a guild group. They safe spotted mage crusher and were fail melee at lupi. You can’t trust the lfg’s you join and you can’t expect people to respect your lfg. You always get people that won’t run zerker themselves but still want speed runs.
In the world of Street Fighter competition, there is a word for players who aren’t good: “scrub.” Everyone begins as a scrub—-it takes time to learn the game to get to a point where you know what you’re doing. There is the mistaken notion, though, that by merely continuing to play or “learn” the game, that one can become a top player. In reality, the “scrub” has many more mental obstacles to overcome than anything actually going on during the game. The scrub has lost the game even before it starts. He’s lost the game before he’s chosen his character. He’s lost the game even before the decision of which game is to be played has been made. His problem? He does not play to win.
The scrub would take great issue with this statement for he usually believes that he is playing to win, but he is bound up by an intricate construct of fictitious rules that prevent him from ever truly competing. These made-up rules vary from game to game, of course, but their character remains constant. In Street Fighter, for example, the scrub labels a wide variety of tactics and situations “cheap.” So-called “cheapness” is truly the mantra of the scrub.Added commentary: In Guild Wars 2, the scrub considers tactics such as stacking, pre-stacking might, running full berserker gear, using reflects, and meleeing bosses “cheap.”
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A common call of the scrub is to cry that the kind of play in which ones tries to win at all costs is “boring” or “not fun.” Let’s consider two groups of players: a group of good players and a group of scrubs. The scrubs will play “for fun” and not explore the extremities of the game. They won’t find the most effective tactics and abuse them mercilessly. The good players will. The good players will find incredibly overpowering tactics and patterns.
Nice SF reference, and an accurate analogy. Oh the memories of people getting kitten ed I use a shoto or that I turtle when not using a shoto.
You have 25 might stacks from team buffs.
You have glass cannon traits.
You are fighting a mob that has low toughness.
The mob has 25 stacks of vulnerability.
You have empower allies buff from warrior.
You have banner of strength and discipline from warrior.
So basically you are getting 875 + 150 + 170 = 1190 additional power,170 precision and 15% crit damage from team might buffs, team traits, and banners.
We don’t have empower allies.
So you ONLY had an additional 1040 power, 170 precision, and 15% crit damage then.
You have 25 might stacks from team buffs.
You have glass cannon traits.
You are fighting a mob that has low toughness.
The mob has 25 stacks of vulnerability.
You have empower allies buff from warrior.
You have banner of strength and discipline from warrior.
So basically you are getting 875 + 150 + 170 = 1190 additional power,170 precision and 15% crit damage from team might buffs, team traits, and banners.
Organized dps runs like DnT’s kill alpha so fast you never have to worry about vigor. In pugs with bad dps, vigor comes in very handy. 10/30/0/5/25 is still great dps you feel you need vigor.
Edit- I didn’t even think of Shelter, I always underestimate that skill.
As an ele, many groups will rely on you to stack might and fury, it helps to have the guardian help with fire fields as well. Also supplying the right conjures for the right encounters can make a huge difference. I like having a good ele in any dungeon.
Most people don’t care as long as you let them know you’re new. The worst is when new people try to follow along and pretend to be experienced, then they end up costing the group a wipe. That especially annoys me if it’s been asked if anyone is new and no one speaks up.
Just join groups that don’t have an experienced prerequisite in the lfg.
I can kill the gate with my mesmer just fine thanks. There isn’t always a thief or warrior in the party, and I can run the rolling rocks on all my characters.
I’m not here to change up my skill bar just because someone is too lazy to run. If you want a zerker speed run, advertise it that way. I never join those groups.
Of course it’s not hard to run through there. Portal is just one of those things that’s easy to do and saves some time. Some of the worst players are those who refuse to change their skill bar depending on the situation. If the guy made a huge stink about it, I could see that as annoying, but I don’t get being so adamantly against it. Mesmers have a portal for a reason, why not use it when will make a situation easier/faster?
It sucks to hear as a new player that wants to play tank, but it’s true, there really is no tanking in this game. You can build yourself beefy and be able to take more hits, but you’ll never be able to tank in the classic sense.
Lack of trinity means it is superior to go dps and learn to mitigate damage. The best pve Guardians excel at this, running glass cannon using blocks, blinds, dodges etc to avoid damage. While this is much different than other mmo’s, I happen to find this game play refreshing (many don’t). It’s fun to roll through dungeons or fractals with a full glass group. Sure, we kill things fast, but there is a level of organization that must be attained. These groups especially rely on the guardian to do their jobs, as classes such as warrior will be running full dps, with no Condi removal or defense skills to speak of.
If you insist on being tanky, you could try the hammer build in there with some knight gear. If you’re talking full on tank, hit like a wet noodle, just peruse this forum a bit. There’s still some that are pushing those builds.
I still find the different ways people deal with the encounter to be entertaining enough. Even more entertaining is the stupid controversy the threads always get.
Thief: Lots of evades and ability to regenerate endurance through dagger auto + signet, but defensive utility is mostly locked out of DPS trait lines. No stability and low HP pool means mistakes and bad dodges are punished extremely harshly. You will instantly die from attacks that many other classes can scrape by surviving. Verdict: 4/5
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I’m curious how a bad dodge gets punished harshly when you can just dodge again? Also Thief has Infiltrator’s Strike which allows by-passing most of the attacks very easily.
Anyways I agree with Dub. Can you really say some class has a truly hard time?
Miss a kick = dead. Miss a swipe = dead. Of course, good players don’t get kicked or swiped in the first place. But if you double dodge under him in phase 2 a stray projectile can still 1 hit you. Also, missing a dodge on the lifesteal can kill you if you aren’t at 100% hp.
Guardian gets one shotted by all those things too. Not saying guardian is hard, just saying a soloer definitely shouldn’t be getting kicked or swiped, those should be the least of your problems.
There used to be a similar group for EU, however I’m not sure it’s still going. There are plenty of arah pro’s on EU servers though, I’m sure some would help you out.
Hopefully those new players, like yourself become ‘enlightened’ at some point and find what works for them for the content they want to do. Even if they are fed bad info by guildies, they might find that whatever build that leads them to satisfies their desires to play the game on their terms. That is more important than anything else.
Honestly, a guide similar to this held me back for ~6 months.
I’m not going to argue about how you felt it held back but you learned much more about how you want to play by doing it the way you did instead of someone telling you how to play. That is a valuable experience, even if you think it was a bad one. Gaining your own insight on how YOU want to play is worth all the gold you had and then some.
I can definitely agree that I learned within that time. It also molded me as a player, I don’t see that time as a complete waste. Just time spent very inefficiently. I see some players much newer than I who adopted good builds early on, they are thriving much earlier than I did (granted that will be subjective), they’re already making good coin, soloing lupi – attaining goals I feel I could’ve attained much earlier than I did. I’m not bitter for the time I spent in a bad build, of course I’m also to blame. I just dislike seeing new players fed bad information, because they don’t know any better.
After I finally made the transition to a dps guardian, I was still in an old guild (I’m in a dungeon guild now). New players who wanted to do pve were spread so much bad information by experienced players it was amazing. I would be met with arguments, “lolz” or “if you want dps, roll warrior” whenever I mentioned a dps guard. Yet I was the only person in the guild they would run arah with. They didn’t make the connection that my success in Arah was as much about my build switch as it was knowing the content.
Even a year ago rares were comparatively cheap. You had every opportunity to try out other builds. You instead went with what you thought was the most acceptable build according to other people instead of trying something new yourself. Guides, and even bad advice, aren’t to blame for that.
People post a lot of stuff. The vast majority of it is speculation or personal opinions. It’s up to the reader to determine for themselves what’s worth considering and what isn’t. Nobody put a gun to your head and forced you to run a build that wasn’t time efficient. It’s not the guide’s fault you weren’t critical.
It’s not like my dungeons were failing, but I had nothing to judge by. I didn’t realize how fast and easy dungeons could be, but apparently neither did the people making build guides. Everyone in this forum and in my guild scoffed at the idea of a dps guardian. They’d all been playing longer than I, so who was I to tell them they’re wrong. Yes I wish I’d have thought of it myself earlier, but I didn’t. Either way, I was still faster to figure out pve in this game than many. Heck, you’re still stuck on condition guardian.
If anything, new players are the best source of innovation because they don’t have any preconception of what’s good or bad and they’re willing to experiment.
Eh, that’s kind of a load of crap. I have never, in any game I’ve ever played, seen a new player come in a build a meta. Sure with warrior in this game, it’s more about math, just get the highest dps attainable. To build a good guardian, dps isn’t the only consideration, one must have a good working knowledge of the game. Say I was slow to gain that knowledge if you want, I’m not arguing that. I’m just saying, man it would’ve been so nice to come into this game and learned a good build instead of some crap that sent me down the wrong path for far too long.
The lfg seems like a logical place for selling to me. We’d all rather use gw2lfg to sell to be honest, but there’s no more traffic there. Anet has a officially said selling is fine. Someone who wants to buy a path need only open the lfg for the dungeon they wish to buy, seems a perfect fit. Now if they’d only fix the lfg.
Even a year ago rares were comparatively cheap. You had every opportunity to try out other builds. You instead went with what you thought was the most acceptable build according to other people instead of trying something new yourself. Guides, and even bad advice, aren’t to blame for that.
People post a lot of stuff. The vast majority of it is speculation or personal opinions. It’s up to the reader to determine for themselves what’s worth considering and what isn’t. Nobody put a gun to your head and forced you to run a build that wasn’t time efficient. It’s not the guide’s fault you weren’t critical.
It’s not like my dungeons were failing, but I had nothing to judge by. I didn’t realize how fast and easy dungeons could be, but apparently neither did the people making build guides. Everyone in this forum and in my guild scoffed at the idea of a dps guardian. They’d all been playing longer than I, so who was I to tell them they’re wrong. Yes I wish I’d have thought of it myself earlier, but I didn’t. Either way, I was still faster to figure out pve in this game than many. Heck, you’re still stuck on condition guardian.
Popular guides aren’t the problem; even if they are, it’s not a problem anyone can fix. This thread is just a bit of jovial. It’s certainly going to have no impact on directing people in a good direction. People that have potential to be good will figure it out pretty quickly what is effective and learn that the best approach isn’t someone telling them what is good. It’s learning for themselves what works.
IMO, if someone is looking at Youtube for advice, that’s already a bad start. There is nothing like practical application to give a player feedback.
Honestly, a guide similar to this held me back for ~6 months. Here I was thinking yeah tanking hits and soaking up damage is good, when little did I know, I was a detriment to every pug I entered. I figured this popular guide must know what’s going on. So I spent a bunch of gold and tanked hits like a ‘pro’, barely getting better.
Had it not been for some crap guide, I would have been richer and better at the game much earlier. I wouldn’t wish the same fate on any new player that doesn’t know better. They may end up like most of the people around here, permanently deluded into thinking simply staying alive is good.
I’m sorry but blaming a guide for you never once questioning your build in SIX MONTHS is a little bit of a joke. No guide held you back. Your own lack of creativity and exploration did.
I did try new things. Between the guides, this subforum and my own guild at the time, I was consistently informed that being able to take damage is superior “dead dps is no dps”. I was a poor player, I didn’t have the gold to constantly try new stats, and the mists give no real inclination to how a build will perform in dungeons. So I went with what the ’pro’s’ encouraged. No one else in my pugs ever complained about the slow pace with which we always seems to move, I thought it was normal.
It wasn’t until I started frequenting the dungeon forum that I started watching real dungeon videos and started to hear from people that actually know about dungeons that I heard dps is far superior in pve, and they had the proof to back it up. If I’d have gone there first, at least I’d have been set on the right path from the start.
Some people will figure it out faster than me, some people won’t. Tons of people will never learn how fast and easy dungeons can be because of all the crap guides and people deluded by them.
Join a good guild. If your good enough go for DnT, LOD, or any other good US dungeon guild. If EU try rT, HC or another good EU guild.
I have a guild that I’d like to stay in and rep 100% is the only problem. No one does full speed clear runs usually.
If they don’t like dungeons and you do, I’d say it’s time to find a guild that suits your interests. The 100% rep thing always annoyed me, I mean if they’re so strict that if they see you not repping, you’re kicked. Even the high end dungeon guilds aren’t 100% rep. They understand that sometimes people have other things going on too.
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