Guild Wars 2

Actually the golem does work. Even exploits with the golem works, as should be the case with arah p2.

Hunter.4783:

J Eberle.9312:

I. I also never stated that I ran as a full DPS guardian, that was simply plucked out of thin air.

aaaaaaaaah, there we go. Finally, wasn’t so hard to admit it. Thing is friend, when people on these boards refer to a full zerker guardian, its also implied they run the 20/25/0/0/25 build. Because according to these boards, this is the meta. Full zerker and this build are one and the same for most people because simply there is no point in running 20/25/0/0/25 without full zerk.

Therefore you do NOT run GC on 49 pugs. Thanks for the clarification.

FYI I am not hostile to zerk guardians, my gear is 80% zerk. I am however hostile to people like spoj and co who think there is either full zerk glass cannon, or full cleric healway and are unwilling to even bother discussing anything else in between these extremes. Hence why I call em zerk drones.

Actually, you’re coming off fairly hostile, you are the one name calling after all.

You seem to have no idea what is going on with runs outside you’re own. Guess what, people really are running full zerk in 49 pugs successfully. Organized teams like what J Eberle runs in, are running full glass cannon team, not only successfully, but twice as fast as many pugs finish in. Just because you’ve never seen runs like these, doesn’t mean they don’t happen.

Enaretos.8079:

We could do some duo mentoring. Just a thought though

That’s kind of what many of my mentoring runs have been. For the people who already know arah, I’ve been doing lupi melee mentoring. It’s been pretty fun so far.

Garambola.2461:

Did you try putting up your own add? I have a feeling the regular groups fill up in seconds and that’s why you hardly ever see them.

That said, I’d love to run path 2 some day, if anyone is willing to take on a first timer who wants to see all the films too.

I do teaching runs all the time (when I’m not selling). Check out this thread.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/Dungeon-Mentors/first#post3518370

Or here

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/Arah-Vets-grouping-together-to-do-Arah-Runs/page/11#post3520041

anabasis.7346:

LanceKing.3017:

If ArenaNet disable the use of experimental riffle in Arah and half of that list would be gone

Experimental rifles were patched long ago and the number of sellers seems to be the same or even higher than when those were usable in dungeons. They were only the tip of the iceberg btw.
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Experimental_Rifle

Yeah, it’s not the Experimental Rifle, it’s other exploits. All Arah path are ridden with exploits that could be fixed quite easily if they just do it.

The sells clog up the lfg because they fill slowly. Posts for regular runs fill very fast so they don’t stay up there for very long. It’s quite easy to get pug runs for arah.

Zerker gear being nerfed may mean that it will be more imperative that everyone is wearing zerk (and good builds) for pug speed runs. Battles will be going slower, so they will need to insure that everyone is killing at maximum efficiency. One non-dps could slow things down enough to make battles last too long.

Guess we’ll have to see how bad it gets nerfed.

I’ve never heard of anyone doing Arah p1 completely solo, I’m quite sure it’s impossible. HykCraft is just talking about damage, seems he doesn’t realize the Shaggroth mechanic. You need at least 4 for for CoF p1, all CoE and Arah p1. The only path I can think of that you need 5 for is CM p2. Need at least 2 for AC p2. I’m sure I’m missing some. Oh, there is aether path…

I think the max you need in any dungeon is 4. But you’ll have a much easier time as beginners if you go with 5.

Vayne.8563:

DeWolfe.2174:

Vayne.8563:

I believe more people in Guild Wars 2 actually play what they want, rather than min-max…but the min-maxers as a unified group are far more visible.

See… that’s what the talk over Zerker is right now, we aren’t. It’s min-max all the way in PvE. Thus, there is only one role really.

Well I think that’s my point. The people who talk about stuff like that in forums are min-maxers. However, we also know, from experience not just here, but elsewhere, that only a tiny percentage of the player base every visit the forums and only a small percentage of the people who visit post.

I don’t min/max AT ALL. So what am I going to post. I’d recommend playing this build because I find it fun?

There’s no real point in posting that since it’s completely subjective. I have a guild of 150 people and I think maybe three guys min/max….maybe. And not even them fully. Most of the guild isn’t working zerker gear, I know that for a fact.

It’s just not that kind of guild. And none of them post on forums but me.

Spot on with my experience as well. I am a min-maxer in a min-maxer guild. A relatively small guild, I’d say less than 50 active players, but roughly 25% of them are active in the forum.

I’m also in a large casual guild, about 150 active players. There are less than 10 I know that run zerk builds, even then only 1 besides myself who runs meta builds. I am the only member who regularly posts in the forums.

Min-maxers are a minority do seem to be a minority. They are also people more likely to run dungeons.

Agreed, that would be an awesome change. World events are killing my soul.

It’s basically a list (non-rep guild) of people who like running Arah that also ranks their level of experience. It’s not as active as it once was but it’s seeing a resurgence.

If you’re new and want to learn, it’s probably best to contact myself, been doing lots of newb runs again lately as I’ve been bored with other things in the game. We’ll run a full path explaining mechanics as we go, I also inform players of what the pug meta will do for some encounters even though we may not run it the same. I don’t have spec requirements for teaching runs, but I would like at least full exotics. There will be utility and weapon advice for specific encounters. Some prior dungeon experience is preferable before attempting Arah as well. * Advance warning – We will do some trash skipping. I understand some people are against this, but people who run Arah regularly know that killing everything is simply not feasible. Don’t worry, I know you’re new, I’m patient. Abuse from any party members is not tolerated. I have kicked a newb for being abusive toward another who was having trouble with a run.

If you’re an average vet, there are plenty of equally skilled players. Or if you’re highly experienced soloer, there are other very highly experienced people to play with as well, good duo partners if that’s what you’re looking for.

You have to be proactive in getting a group. Just start whispering to get a group together.

Also KillerAngel, would like to be a leader? Since you’ve need sending invites and so forth, we could use someone who’s paying attention.

Eternal.9148:

i’m getting depressed, just started with speedruns and anet says “we’re going to fix this”. My life sucks….maybe i should start grinding, prolly anet will say “we’re going to remove grind from gw2”!

It sounds like the fix is going to be a nerf to the crit chance or damage formula itself. If this is true, there will still be speed runs (no matter what they do, there will still be speed runs unless they completely break the game). It will probably take more skill to stay alive however, as battles will be longer. It will probably be more imperative that zerks play with other zerks.

maxinion.8396:

You do CoF in 5 min , I do it in 1 hour, I still beat the dungeon so you are not better.

I do not think that word means what you think it means.

I should try that at work. Take a week to do something someone else does in a day. When my boss says the other guy is better at the job, I’ll say no way, we are exact equals, I got the job done too!

Black Box.9312:

Sanderinoa.8065:

Raven.3248:

So please let me know how 5 melee players should kill mobs?
Surround the mobs? eeeeeemmmmmm, nope i got nothing more
U guys got anymore?

Take them on one by one while being barraged by the other 20

Ever roamed in WvW? In small groups usually coordinated teams will focus a specific target and burst it down, then move on to the next target. It’s really not that difficult; it just requires more coordination because you’re fighting people that will actually react to your actions.

Having that same kind of encounter in PvE would go a long way IMO.

Yeah wvw, where the most effective teams use stacking.

Iris Ng.9845:

Lol, are you PR-ing yourself, laharl?

I love meeting RP-er because they are so eloquent with words and have interesting characters.

Haha, I’m old. Old people talk about their neighbors and that sort of nonsense. If anything, I’m PRing my RPing neighbor!

DigitalKirin.9714:

Nemesis.8593:

The reward is usually as meaningful as the struggle/journey to obtain that reward… Ever heard the saying “the harder the battle, the sweeter the victory” ?

If you put it like that… why would you even want to spend any time in a dungeon, just have a starting vendor with all best gear in the game…

But to swing to the other end of the spectrum as illogically as you’ve swung your way: why not do all dungeons in white gear with 0 traits spent and dodge unbound? Your struggle would be most epic thus, your “victory” would be most sweet.

I noticed there was no rebuttal to this. If you guys want to make the dungeon longer and more difficult because it’s more epic for you, then actually do it. Make your own lfg and do it. Stop telling everyone else they need to do it your way.

Seriously, post a video of how awesome it is to kill everything in all Arah paths.

Do you guys also get mad at the champ farm when they skip mobs to get to the champ for the end reward? Or the people doing map completion who skip mobs to unlock a wp? Or the world event farmers who skip mobs as they run to Jormag? Go to general discussion and tell them how to play their game that doesn’t affect you, see how it goes. Although their escapades might affect you some, unlike what people are doing in their own instances…

Perma stun lock. Exploited is probably a harsh term for that one, but it does completely negate the mechanics of the fight after you first spawn him.

I have two neighbors that are hardcore WoW players. One is an RPer, actually a really good guy, makes 6 digits a year, slightly socially odd but quite likable with nice kids. He’s a good neighbor and active in the community (more so than myself to be sure). He even snowblows my sidewalks and driveway in the winter because I don’t have a snowblower.

The other guy says he gets paid to play other peoples WoW accounts, which may or may not be true. But he rarely leaves the house, his house and yard are an utter mess and he’s a slob (reminds me of the WoW kitten in the WoW South Park episode) albeit a seemingly nice guy.

I’m somewhere in between these guys, keep a clean house and yard, make average income, don’t volunteer at the local shelter and make few donations. Pretty average all round.

I think how you play a video is not necessarily indicative of your lifestyle. And, man, so funny listening to those guys talk about WoW, nerdiest stuff I ever heard.

They don’t need to fix the arah exploits for the sellers or buyers. They need to fix it because it’s broken, badly. Every single path had exploits that remove the need for skill and dramatically reduce the time needed to finish.

Path 1, the only boss that is fought legit is the Crystalline Entities. Ooze and Shaggroth are exploited, then everything else is skipped with a JP.

Path 2, everything is killed from underwater or the party is phase shifted and unkillable for the entire dungeon. Even the boat skip was never fixed like they thought it was.

Path 3 and 4, you use a jp to skip straight to lupi, skipping 2 bosses in p3 and 3 bosses in p4. Plus Simin is easily bugged, then another jp to get to the end.

It’s a broken dungeon and needs fixed. All it needs is a few invisible walls and some boss checks for the main exploits. Then they could take look at bosses like ooze, Shaggroth and Simin. They did a well enough job fixing Belka, Abomination and Alphard, now they just need to do the rest.

Black Box.9312:

laharl.8435:

Skilled play isn’t as rewarding in gw2 pvp. Build usually matters more than skill. Then there’s luck factor. I get my pvp fun in other games better balanced for it. I don’t even do the pvp daily anymore.

What? For as little skill as this game’s PvP might require (which I’d say is debatable to begin with), PvE lacks it twofold. Anyone who has a basic understanding of how to abuse poor AI mechanics can easily clear dungeons, no skill involved.

I was referencing that comment to other pvp games I play, not to gw2 pve. Although I’ve seen plenty of skilled pve players, maybe you’ve just never seen one.

Skilled play isn’t as rewarding in gw2 pvp. Build usually matters more than skill. Then there’s luck factor. I get my pvp fun in other games better balanced for it. I don’t even do the pvp daily anymore.

I like rpg’s, fighters and first person shooters. This game gives me my rpg fix with some fun social interaction. But I prefer the balance of fighters and fps’s where all players have relatively the same tools at their disposal, not where some classes have a near insurmountable advantage right out of the gate.

LittleLepton.8915:

I’ll start snapping my fingers like I’m on west side story.

Lol. Jokes. I don’t know, I don’t know how I feel about it. If a new build becomes viable I’d actually be happy, but making zerk just less powerful while leaving every thing the else the same kind of blows.

With whatever fix they dream up, as long as skilled play is still rewarded, players will still come up with optimal builds under the new setting, and people like Nemesis will still be unhappy that some people excel above others.

If the fix is so dramatic that skilled play is no longer rewarded, and the game turns into gimmicky puzzles and time gates etc., then gw2 will lose many players.

Nemesis.8593:

“:D”
(this is for the people i recently spoke with on this subforum…)

So petty.

You had a bad experience with a couple jerks that didn’t read your lfg and making a blanket statement on the entire community from it.

Make your lfg like someone else said “story mode, watching all cut scenes”. When your party is full just reiterate what is going on. Problem solved.

RedCobra.7693:

laharl.8435:

RedCobra.7693:

tbh i think its disgusting but there will always be cheaters and people who will allow it, now you know they are exploiting so stop buying there paths, also most people who sell paths have already kicked there party and are reinviting for cash which is also an offence

I seriously doubt most path sellers are kicking their party and selling the instance. Otherwise there’d be a dozen topics here everyday about people getting kicked and the kickers listing the instance on the lfg.

personal experience, yes they kick and sell, im one person with my friend who was kicked

That sucks you were kicked and I hope they get banned, but that’s a pretty small sample size to judge the entire community on.

FenrirSlakt.3692:

Is there any statement that clearly states that they’ll nerf Berserkers? If not, why is everyone assuming that instead of considering that they may just bring other builds up to par?

Everyone isn’t assuming they’ll simply nerf zerker. Seems a small minority really. The speculation is fun to read though.

RedCobra.7693:

tbh i think its disgusting but there will always be cheaters and people who will allow it, now you know they are exploiting so stop buying there paths, also most people who sell paths have already kicked there party and are reinviting for cash which is also an offence

I seriously doubt most path sellers are kicking their party and selling the instance. Otherwise there’d be a dozen topics here everyday about people getting kicked and the kickers listing the instance on the lfg.

The Clague.4765:

mahariel.4981:

The point of greatsword is to use the 2/3/5 burst and then swap back axe mainhand to keep up steady DPS, don’t just camp greatsword.

Dual-wielding axes is fine when soloing easy champions because it allows you to stack fury, but for harder ones you want off-hand sword, and for group content you want the vuln stacking on off-hand mace.

Axe/mace + axe/warhorn or axe/mace + axe/sword might be a good choice for you, just roll the 30/25/0/10/5 build, swap out slashing power for axe mastery and forceful greatsword for deep strikes. Take empowered in tactics for X%+ damage boost.

Thanks for that, I might try both ways and see how I get on. I haven’t been using GS like that so maybe I will have a play around with that first and see if I can get into it.

I used to run the pure axe build (axe/mace + axe/warhorn~sword). While it has great dps, utility and a blast finisher, that extra dodge on gs can be a lifesaver in some situations. Plus the gs + axe rotation is just so great. The gs is great for trash running in dungeons like arah too, plus you can always swap in warhorn with your axe for the extra help.

Kravick.4906:

Believe me, smarter people with better math skills than the both of us have already shown how warriors with their cleave damage are why 4 warriors and a guardian is the DPS meta.

4 warriors and 1 guard is the dps meta? Did you quit playing a year ago and just come back?

Elrey.5472:

I was the second ivar’s champion in the world (Shiara was 1st one xD). That’s one of the most hardcore achievements that a PvE could get in any MMO 2 years ago. That’s something that takes 6 months, week after week, leading one of the most elitist groups of 12 players through the hardest raid (4-5 hours) in order to suceed for the title (random info here: http://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Ost_Dunhoth – You need to complete the raid in 24 different ways for the title).

I don’t like to brag (usually), but i’m sick of the assumption that pug community is bad in gw2. I am a PUG like 99% of my time playing gw2, and i am skilled here or any other MMO that i played before.

There will always be bad players, bad attitude players, bad leaders, random people (or even friends) forcing you to use a certain build. That’s not why I left other MMOs to come here. I came here because in GW2 you can be what do you want… and yet suceed. It seems the majority of the players are now used to do zerker runs, zerker builds, zerker yadda yadda. That’s not why I came to gw2 and I’m pretty sure that’s an issue of the game (I don’t mind if you are zerker and you don’t like my statement. The game was designed and sold as a place where you can choose your build and yet work perfectly in any dungeon).

I’m playing GW2 daily, several hours per day, with different builds. My main is a Warrior using Bow and a condition damage/duration armour set build. That’s not common, i know, but it works for me… pretty well. I’ve seen groups of 4 zerkers trying to clean some trash mobs in Arah and wipe extremely fast, and thats why they skip the monsters in the next attempt. Here with my condition ranged build? I soloed that trash pull in their face.

Skilled players are still playing GW2, what is wrong is the way the dungeons are designed:
- Skipping should be impossible, kill to advance.
- Selling dungeons should be not worth.
- Zerkers should wipe more often against bosses than a balanced group.
- The dungeons are way too much exploiteable, get a group of hardcore testers and make them test the dungeon before it goes live. I bet they can find a lot of fails.
- Increase the reward for long runs. TA Aether should give more gold, CoF should give less gold.
- Tweak the enemies. Anet, you need to have a bit of common sense, how is Caudecus so hard for a fresh lvl 40 player? The enemies there are hitting insanely hard, and the point that they can 1shot players at 20m range is not helping. Caudecus should be easier, CoF should be harder. Crucible of Eternity is perfectly balanced right now.

P.S. Wasn’t my intention to write all of this… but seriously, i’m sick of how a good game is creating such a bad habit in it’s community of players.

tl;dr

Do not reward skilled play. Only reward time spent playing.

J Eberle.9312:

Sarahfull.4930:

LittleLepton.8915:

Sarahfull.4930:

So just because you guys um.. fully learnt the boss moves off-by-heart on your zerker gear that means your better than someone who learnt the moves on a different gear set.

Right..

Not going to lie, the fact that your attitude has shifted so significantly from your Teachers post to now is really disheartening.

As an IRL teacher, I know that good teachers understand that there will be people out there who know more than you do, and the best thing you can do, to teach well, is to accept that you won’t always be right. Learning more is always the way to be an effective teacher.

Very disappointed.

This post really upset me, and I had a hard time to adjust to this and understand it. I ask a friend about it and we think there is a misunderstanding of what I mean.

The thing I hate about “zerker” is people who say that they are a better player just cause they are wearing it

I’m not looking down on people who’re running “zerkers”, its just I do not believe either are superior and that you don’t need to have either equipped to learn the attack patterns of the dungeon bosses. I believe some people play better in whatever outfit they are in and of course people play differently, I just hope everyone can work with each other.

Sarah

People are not better because they run zerker. Do not misunderstand. However, wearing zerker requires a person to become a better player.

Exactly, simply running zerk does not make one better. Zerker is the natural evolution of good pve player. If a PVT player finds that (s)he has truly learned the content and they know how to mitigate all the damage that matters, the next step is naturally to move up to less defensive gear. Why have all those defensive stats if you don’t need them?

If you’re still dying or barely staying alive in your PVT, fine, you still need it, nothing wrong with that. But if you know the content so well you’re mitigating most damage without your stats, it’s only logical to add more dps to your build.

Clumsy.6257:

Sarahfull.4930:

Your right, there really is no debate.. To you all this game is, is a time trial racing game so what ever build achieves this the fastest is: ( as you put it ) " the smartest, most efficient build"

Welcome to the world of Guild Wars where everything is a race. Get used to it.

@anierna: was typing on my phone took too long

Having a party of full zerk not only makes things go faster, it makes things easier. People also like easier, however, there is still a level of organization that must be attained for best results. Sure we can blow through a dungeon very fast, but we also know what skills and traits to swap in for each encounter, when to use them, tells to watch for etc. Sure, in pugs where people are often running tanky, they don’t need to know all that stuff, they just whittle away at the enemy while taking the hits.

In a pug, I never complain about low dps, that’s just what you get when you pug. You often get to see how playing full dps has paid off, because you’ve truly learned the mechanics of an encounter when your defense oriented team has all died because they relied on their stats instead of knowledge to keep them alive. Whereas, a good zerker will still be standing because he truly knows the encounter. Any good arah soloer see’s this nearly everytime they pug.

Sarahfull.4930:

Im sick of ppl saying saying “berker or nothing”, wearing that gear does not make you the better pug!

I get that PvT is slow and safe and I dont know your view on on a mixture of stats but thats not to say zerger is only viable build out there.

Any crap build is “viable” in pve, as in sure, they can finish a dungeon. Zerker is the smartest, most efficient build for dungeons. There’s really no debate.

KOPPER.1458:

“A class should be played with its strengths.”

Any player should play how they want. Playing with their strengths makes sense but a lot of players like to play outside of the box, this of course doesn’t mean that it always works.

“Just because he didn’t advertise it as support doesn’t make it any better”

I didn’t say that it did. But for many of the posts the first point of contention is “lacks support”

“It’s still a stupid build”

Overly harsh, just to be harsh.

“If your actual goal is to reach the deep ends of DPS without thinking about pesky things like support, you should be playing thief and elementalist. "

Unless of course you don’t like those classes and want to play a guardian. Heck for some it might be their only class.

When you run pugs all the time you see a ton of different builds. Most of them are not “Meta” builds at all. I ran with 2 other guardians the other day who were running “commando front line” build. Now I have no idea what that is (probably posted on the forums here somewhere or on youtube), but it certainly wasn’t the meta build and we did just fine.

This is not to say that I think nemesis build it top dps but like I said I thought it was an interesting video and wanted to open discussion on it as well as the dps he was putting forth. He says it’s a pug build and that is about what it is.

I really don’t even know what you’re getting at anymore. The build has been discussed, it’s unanimous, the build is inferior in nearly every way. Obal put it to rest on the first page. If you want to use it, no one is stopping you, I hope you have great success with it.

Mhmm, ranging isn’t tanking.

KOPPER.1458:

People keep talking about support but that isn’t what he was advertising in his build at all. I understand the importance of it but it’s not what he was “building”

No one is claiming that he advertised support but didn’t deliver. A huge reason you bring guardian is for the unique support. The meta beats Nemesis build in support AND damage.

Lonewolf Kai.3682:

Nike Porphyrogenita.8137:

Lonewolf Kai.3682:

Guanglai Kangyi.4318:

I try to come up with unorthodox stuff all the time but I at least try to make sure there are valid reasons to run it over what is considered meta. Check out my warrior build on Guru or something, you’ll see what I mean. This is basically a “different just to be hipster” build which is why it’s getting so much flak.

On an unrelated note, anet just added a profession balance forum, might be fun.

Well, by the standards set in this thread then, you’re a blight to the Warrior community by putting the build on Guru.

There is a vast difference between GK’s EA warrior build and this scepter torch nonsense. Where GK deviates from the meta he does so to increase efficiency in another, also useful, area. Where Nemesis deviates from the meta he does so to no advantage and in an extremely capricious manner.

No, no, no, if it’s not meta, its substandard.

You don’t quite get the concept. This is about usefulness, not loyalty to a meta build. If we found a better build tonight, we’d be using it tomorrow, just as we’ve done in the past. Then that build would be the meta because it would be what we consider peak effectiveness.

If Nemesis’s build delivered, it would be the new meta and we’d be cool with that. DnT, LoD, rT and all the efficiency focused dungeon guilds would switch to it and recommend it with no qualms. I guarantee obal would link it in his sticky, because this is about effectiveness, not some stupid blind loyalty. However, it failed to deliver thus it falls short.

SrebX.6498:

Molch.2078:

SrebX.6498:

Can anyone explain whats going on here? because personally I was really impressed with the build…. [Btw, I’m not really sure whats the current Guardian Meta …]

The current Guardian Meta deals probably 30% more damage while still granting a better variety of support. Thats why noone likes his build.

Do you have an example for a current Meta build and perhaps a demonstration?

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/guardian/Guide-DPS-Guardian-for-PVE/first

Urque.6837:

Well, Urkules is here to say that everyone who has responded is wrong because I tank with my guardian every day.

5/0/30/30/5.
Take meditations and symbol traits.
Use meditations.
Use hammer/greatsword (ranged weapon when you need one ala Arah/Fractals)
Profit.

URKULES NEVER DIES. Why? Because I have virtues to heal me/give me aegis, I have a heal on 6, 789 all heal me, my 0 makes me invulnerable, and my basic attack on hammer gives me constant protection and heals me from the symbol.

You have some video of this epic tanking? I’d like to see you tanking fractals scale 49 or arah.

Wethospu.6437:

This community is really ridiculous.

I solo 3 maps on fractal scale 10 and end up with Mai Trin. I practice it enough to solo it quite reliably. Then I invite pugs to give them free daily. We go in and most of them die within 30 seconds. Eventually they all end up dead (facetanking) and Mai is about at 60%. Someone tells me to wipe and then they kick me because I didn’t respond. Oh, and it was all my fault because I went in first before others.

And I thought I was doing them favor as they were carried and also were able to watch how it should be done.

Now when anyone complains about getting kicked by “elitists” you can use this story.

Amazing…

Ayrilana.1396:

No. The only reason to update it was for the inherent infusion. This has been changed to just a unique slot that is only available by upgrading. People upgraded to the last version for the glowing skin.

Nothing was changed that justified refunds.

It’s a necro post.

notabot.3497:

You know what I hate, when I look for a good build for something, seems to make sense, go start building it, then find out its crap. Before I got better at guardian I bought into the knights AH build that was popularized via popular youtube contributer. Yeah, it worked for pugging and I never died ect, but my dmg was terrible and I dragged the team down. Same thing happened before I got better info on the hybrid/dps necromancer video. Didn’t know much about the class so I trusted a popular youtuber… Yeah, build was underwhelming in dungeons and I wasted a fair amount of gold and time (which is a bigger deal than gold) on crap gear.

I did the exact same. I wouldn’t wish that on new players.

+1 sticky guide please

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Sola.7250:

Dungeons sadly is the only area in PVE, I’ve run into players being jerks. Normally players are very helpful in the open world and during group events.

Really? Champion train people…. Now they are mean.

Also when people were having issues with Tequatl, people could be very mean. There will always be people that are stressed when things don’t go well, some of those people handle stress with hostility.

kyubi.3620:

my answer to this…

Mo/D running Cathedral of flame 5 platinium each pay at murakai 4/5

does this ring anyone a bell? Me it does and thats the bell of the runner demise because everytime someone find a way to run something Anet fix it in the month after. You may enjoy this while it last but i tell you what Anet will likely find a fix.

Most of the arah sellers from this forum are hoping they fix the exploits.

I don’t have Bolt on my guardian, but a few in my guild do. I think it looks great. You can always see the electricity coming from it. If anything, the colors compliment the guardian’s skill animations in my opinion.

Wasbunny.6531:

Please let me know if this makes sense and if anyone else has any other specific ways to maximize guardian DPS in a glass cannon build like this.

CptAurellian.9537:

There is a whole sticky on that topic …

He was letting you know there is already a sticky that has specific ways to maximize a glass cannon guardian’s dps since you stated you were looking for that information.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/guardian/Guide-DPS-Guardian-for-PVE/first

Rock.4019:

I’m right now only abit worried of my overall health. I feel very fragile I guess I guess I’m still too used to my soldiers gear….not to mention I used full cleric gear before this.

So I guess the best defense is the best offense ? I still have just barley 15K health because of my soldiers trinkets (that I’m swapping to berserk when I get the trinkets).
So I guess my health will drop alot after that. There wont be much room to take hits in dungeons and such.

So am I just too used to high HP pool. What is an avarage HP pool for DPS guardians ?

Thanks again for you’re replies Cat Has Ducks, you have really helped me out and I’m enjoying my guardian more than I ever have.

Average HP is 11k ~ 12k range. Very squishy, but as you familiarize yourself with the build and encounters, it becomes pretty easy to stay alive using blinds, blocks, dodging etc. It makes fights that much more engaging because you need to pay attention to mechanics.

Ropechef.6192:

Yeah that was my bad for the slight derailment. but it was still a valid question I thought.

None the less, thank you all again for your help.

Bottom line then. Big damage comes from Critical chance and Critical Damage. And your ability to create that situation.

And a high power stat to to base crit damage from. Thankfully Berserker gear has the trifecta.