Guild Wars 2

Henry has a PhD in e-sports.

This is… suspicious.

Phenn.5167:

It’s almost as if the dude who designed and was all pumped about the Necro at release left the company, and no one else really knows what to do with the class or cares. But hey, once again I’m not surprised.

I think that this dude is Jonathan Sharp and he is still around, but I don’t know if he hadn’t lost the touch with the game so that his child (the necro) does not longer fit in the game.

Guys, it’s because the necro changes are still being worked on… :>

I’m fine with that as long as they turn out to be well thought through.
If they turn out to be terrible, on the other hand…

Branden Gee.2150:

After thinking about this I feel like many of you think that every dev should have complete understanding of every aspect of this game. And my gut reaction is to say that it is unreasonable to expect that from us, after all Guild Wars 2 is a huge game, and even now I am still discovering new things in it. And whether or not it is reasonable to expect that, it is not that I don’t have complete understanding due to a lack of trying. I mean sure I only spend about 20 hours a week on my own time playing Guild Wars 2, this does not include the time that ArenaNet sets aside for all of their employees to play the game, and sometimes it can be hard to get through jumping puzzles, fractals, WvW, activities, sPvP, dungeons, tPvP, living story, Hot-Joins, crafting, guild missions, ect with only a finite amount of time each week to play. I could probably cut more time out of playing other games, enjoying my hobbies, working to improve my programming ability, trying to maintain friendships and spending time with family to play more Guild Wars, but right now that isn’t something I am willing to do. So instead I’m just going to understand that some players are going to see problems that I don’t. And ask them for as much information I can so that the problem can be identified and fixed. And I appreciate that our players understand this as well and are willing to bring these problems up in a polite and respectful manner.

Sooo, is it working as intended or not?

Branden Gee.2150:

Xista.7391:

Branden Gee.2150:

Where are you seeing rank as a spectator?

Where the experience bar is.

Thanks for reporting this issue. This is not the intended design!

Loco.5739:

Patch notes from 28 May 2013:

- Spectators now see their target’s rank on the HUD.

Any more questions?

Ohh, Branden. I guess it’s a Gee-gee. <3

These blog posts simply don’t cut it.
I just feel that the company lost its momentum. They don’t engage in discussions anymore, the Collaborative Development Initiative turned out to be BS so far.

Before season 2 we were fed with the info that most of the content is permanent, but they forgot to mention that the value of that content is mostly lost due to it being just one-time story instances that you enter once or twice.

They won’t engage in a dialoque about things that hook people up (SAB is the prime example) and won’t give official statements on features that have been asked for since forever (first-person FOV). It just all seems like we’re stuck with, sorry to say, poorly written, childish and boring Living Story updates worth 3 hours of playtime every 2 weeks. The development of these underwhelming updates takes a long time and after just a few months they have to take a mid-season break.

The features they’re adding surely improve the quality, but don’t change the gameplay.

What players need and are asking for is changing what they’re supposed to do, not how they’re supposed to do that!

What is the point of having Solo Arena Leaderboards if the game mode and some terribly design missteps (Skyhammer) stop people from enjoying the game in the end making them leave?

What is the point of introducing new WvW golem mastery/skills or new traps and tricks if it doesn’t change the crucial problems with population, zerging and rewards?

What is the point of going to Gamescom if you can’t even make a cohesive presentation?

What is the point of giving interviews if there is literally no questions you can answer (seriously, the GuildMag interview was just embarassing for the Studio).

What is the point of maintaining these forums if in the end all that the passionate players writing walls of texts of feedback get is an excuse of being just a vocal minority?

It really seems like Anet moved from developing and improving the game to just servicing the bunch of players who still play it.

The absolutely worst thing, that the management at the company should be ashamed of, is sending the truly passionate Devs to these interviews while having a strict non-disclosure policy and making them dodge all the questions. The ones that should put up with these questions should be the Studio Leads.

Anet has been out of touch since the release.
Previously they would manage to keep people interested with a promise of cool content coming, but it never happened and their players learned the rhetorics.

I can’t see it happening again.

Vayne.8563:

IvanTheGrey.2941:

Sorry everyone. We’re all royally p’d off, but the fact of the matter is that no one at ANet cares what you think. Devs are never going to come in here. If they do, they’ll say 1 or 2 things and run the risk of getting fired (ex. Robert Hrouda). Nobody at ANet cares about us, and as long as we keep buying gems, there’s no reason for them to care.

It doesn’t matter if you leave, as there’s no sub fee; they won’t even notice that you’re gone.

You simply DO NOT MATTER to ANet or NCSoft, unless you’re buying gems.

Guess you polled everyone at the company.

Don’t speak for everyone who works anywhere. Because in actuality you’re just making it up.

Your statement has the same factual value as the OP’s.

Branden Gee.2150:

Xista.7391:

Branden Gee.2150:

Where are you seeing rank as a spectator?

Where the experience bar is.

Thanks for reporting this issue. This is not the intended design!

Not sure if trolling or…

I’d take her any day.
She carries games so hard that even me, being the heaviest necro eu, can win some games <3

Hi.

I’m Leman and I’m looking for a team. You might know me as Lemve in game.

I have over 3 thousand tournaments played on the necro and that’s the class I’m planning to stick with. Over 5000 games overall.

I need a team that is understanding and plans to play with a necro (especially after the September balance pass).

I guess that’s it.

I regret I watched it. This screams ‘Stay Away!’.

I’m not the author of this video but I’m sharing it here hoping he or she won’t mind.

Credit goes to Azraeil Amon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDfK83-8-OA

What the skyhammer did I just read?

Lord Kuru.3685:

It’s very close to too late for any more "eventually"s.

It’s never too late to delete Skyhammer.

Not paying a dime until Anet fixes the existing game, and I mean everything -

1. open-world aka braindead zergfest,
2. dungeons aka boring stackfest,
3. balance aka get cheesed,
4. PvP aka wasteland,
5. WvW aka what?

Not a single dime.

Even if Anet makes these non-DPS roles important it won’t change the grand scheme of things.
Bads will bad.
Min-maxers will optimise.

That’s pretty much it.

Also, the pve drama, ohhh.

3 matches,
3 Skyhammers,
3 4v5s

Anet, I think it’s time to admit you failed terribly with this map and finally get this kittening piece of kitten garbage modakittening map out of the game.

Thanks.

FILO as mentioned in BoC. Signed.

A daily ‘get rid of that worthless map’ post.

When will you grace us with a fix to a ‘/dance’ stuck bug?

Thanks.

I like to think Jon ‘5 signets’ Peters giggles each time someone gets this:

8 professions / 2 professions/stream = 4 streams
4 streams / 1/2 streams/week = 8 weeks
8 weeks / 4 weeks/month = 2 months

Conclusion – next balance patch no sooner than in two months.

Touche, Anet, touche.

I can prove that by a simple thought experiment:

Thesis: Necros are good.

1. People say eles are bad.
2. Anet buffs eles.
3. Ele is good now.
4. People say necros are bad.
5. Anet doesn’t buff necros.
6. Necro must be good already.

Q.E.D.

Shoutout to the Devs and especially Jon ‘5 signets’ Peters who graced us with this wonderfully balanced game.

Tamyr.3271:

Hello Prysin.

I’m Tamyr , a Member from Made in Meta and at the moment i play with [WAG].
I basically play in the top of the EU leaderboards as a Ranger.
At the moment there are only 2 active and good rangers on EU.

Well enough about me, I do know how to play Ranger and I win most of my 1on1’s.

Anyway , this build won’t work in EU. Basically just be in the % Ratings and you can run it or when you want to troll someone. It won’t ever work out in a real tournament , because it’s just bad. I do believe that a typical Bearbow with a longbow would do more than this.

Or do you talk about EU Hotjoin Meta?

Anyway. Whoever reads this , do never try this one out. Go spirit ranger , this is the EU Ranger Meta. Make some changes for some direct damage et voilá you have a good ranger build.

Saying that this is EU Meta makes my eyes bleed, literally.

Have a good day.

Unfortunately, I have to agree. The aforementioned build may work vs unexperienced players, but it will not work in any serious match. The meta spirit rangers already have a hard time holding against their opponents.

It’s easier to just get rid of that pathetic map. Everyone would veto it anyways.

Both.

/thread

flow.6043:

Also, you’ll get more damage in DS with Axe Traning, which is where most of your damage comes from in pvp anyway.

Garo.5304:

The real reason why you should ever use an axe is because the axe mastery trait damage boost works with death shrouds auto attack.

I don’t think it does anymore, does it?

dancingmonkey.4902:

Wait, you went from worshiping GWEN to necros are invalid in PvE?

Or are we complaining about elitist themselves, in a balance sub forum?

I don’t think I understand… I think you are writing about WvW, which clearly isn’t a topic here.

Aberrant.6749:

Why not just get to know some PvE people that do runs, then do runs with them regularly? That way you don’t need to deal with the LFG full zerk only class A,B,C types, and the group will almost certainly be stronger/faster…

I have some amazing people to play PvE with (hint in my signature) but it doesn’t help when they’re not online, does it?

The point isn’t with finding solution, but with having to do it…

I believe there is big amount of work required to make the necro viable in PvE similar;y to the current best professions.
Simple number adjustment isn’t going to work, because, as Swift Paw remarked, this could overpower them in other areas of the game.

Making things more intricate, like adding/changing necro’s combo capabilities (wells and their 4 dark and 1 light field, very scarce finishers) would more likely work.

I’m just afraid it may be too difficult to tune necros to fit the dungeon design without changing that design.

Whatever the road the Devs choose to follow, something needs to be done, because it is becoming ridiculous. Their silence is probably the most aggravating problem here. It shows that either they don’t know how to fix these problems or they don’t care.

Do the Devs realise that at the moment it is impossible to play PUG dungeons with some profession?

I’ve been playing the necro since the BWEs. I am a good player, I know how to play, I know what works where, I am well geared for PvE (zerker).
I am top100 in EU tPvP and sPvP. Been there done that.
kitten , I even won a kitten llama mini on Saturday.

But every time I want to PUG some dungeons (because queues are too long) I get kicked from parties before I even manage to write ‘Hi’.

Some guys post a ‘Zerker only’, I join then get kicked. I guess necro is too kitten to join your standard elite 5k AP warrior.
Make your own LFG, you say? Enjoy waiting 15 minutes for someone to join and that’s an optimistic scenario.

I just hope something is in the works to make this and some other professions viable and desirable (!) in PvE, because at the moment all you can play across the board is the holy trinity (war, guard, ele).

Just wanted to vent, hoping that a Dev reads it…

Cheers.

I never saw any, but they’re quite good in PvP.

Didn’t read, but numbers, so I dig.

Guanglai, if you’re a girl, will you marry me?

Can you post some stats on the necro? Kkthxbai.

Everything’s op in hotjoin.

A Bearbow Trapper! Brilliant! Build please!

The only tip I can give you is to stay away from this garbage.

RedSpectrum.1975:

katana

Cantha confirmed!

Just wait for the new patch to see whether there is already some new content designed to be inclusive to various playstyles (Anet mentioned boon-hate).
Also, balance changes, if there are any.
Could be interesting.

hehk.8705:

how could helseth get so high on our prestigious NA leaderboards?

Care to explain numbers 1, 4 and 5? Mind = kittened.

Holl.3109:

Spectral grab might actually catch them off guard because they’re not expecting it. Just a thought…

That is actually a valid argument. Still I do stand by my opinion of there being much better and more importantly safer, more universal choices.
I’m gonna run some spectral builds in the coming days to give it another try.

Roe.3679:

Now, pointing out that understandment isn’t a word… that would be pointless and inflammatory. But I’m sorry you find differing opinions so frustrating.

And yet you did what you wanted, namely pointed out my English mistake. Let me just tell you that not everyone is a native speaker here, so your post, in fact, is inflammatory.

Your argument, that highlighting Spectral Grasp being easy to avoid was silly, is wrong.
It is infinitely easier to avoid it than engie’s magnet and thief’s wire for instance (both less telegraphed), which I usually dodge anyways.
These two skills also work much better with their respective classes (stealth helps land them) and in case of engie, the skill comes with a nice additional package of tool kit.

Don’t let me get started on the opportunity costs of taking it in the high-end PvP. They are huge.

I’m leaving this discussion. Won’t continue talking to some random guy who comes and decides he preferes to point out language mistakes of a non-native speaker and pick fights without giving any solid arguments other than ’it’s easy to land, it rarely misses’. I wish you all the luck in making the skill relatively worth the slot spot in whatever type of whimsical PvP you’re using it in.

Also, I don’t find differing opinions frustrating. I just can’t stand random opinions from random people having random value, which in your case was close to 0.

I meant your pointless inflamatory post that brought nothing into discussion.
I tried to build some bridge to mutual understanding with the OP, but you had to come and start a totally puny attack.

I have yet to see a top necro play that skill in tPvP. The fact is, current meta, understood as the specs people are running does not make Spectral Grasp an overly useful skill. It can be easily dodged, evaded, blocked, LOSed, strafed, kited. Easily.

That is a fact. Coming from high EU tpvp perspective.

It may work for our friend OP, but he isn’t a top player yet (although he plays much better than his opponents in the video – but this is actually working against the position you argue). That is another fact and you are basing your posts on the negligence of it.

Roe.3679:

leman.7682:

I think we can agree it has some decent usage possibilities and brings quite some utility but at the same time there are generally more favourable choices at the moment.

Subjective statement is subjective.

Wothless reply is worthless…

I think we can agree it has some decent usage possibilities and brings quite some utility but at the same time there are generally more favourable choices at the moment.

Rym.1469:

leman.7682:

1. Spectral Grasp may be useful at lower ranks but will turn out to be useless, detrimental or even dangerous for the caster vs experienced opponents

It’s useful even vs. very experienced opponents. You just have to use it with brain and not waste it when it has to travel 1000 range and your target has dodge avalible.

But in current boonspam meta with Strenght Runes, Corrupt Boon in tPvP is almost a must.

I disagree. You obviously won’t pull warriors to you as the OP suggested. That would end in total obliteration. It definitelly sucks vs thieves, mesmers and AI specs (los issues). Not useful as interrupt + chill, cos there are just better options.

I stand by my opinion, it is useless in anything that isn’t top90%, because it’s just so kitten easy for skilled players to avoid it.

I enjoyed the video.

Some gameplay tips:

1. Use Focused Rituals
2. Spectral Grasp may be useful at lower ranks but will turn out to be useless, detrimental or even dangerous for the caster vs experienced opponents
3. Well of Corruption is very much worth it
4. Sigils of Energy are a must for a necro in high-end PvP

a t s e.9614:

Wow 14k achievement points , you must be pro!

I am.

ICEing.9237:

I like how you care about AP so much when it doesn’t measure skill.

Stop AP farming and get good at dungeons.

I never farmed AP, but it’s an indicator of me having played since beta. Also, you know nothing about my gameplay, so why the insults?

Stop mindless posting and get good at reading.