Guild Wars 2

spoj.9672:

I feel its better to have less and more simplistic rules. For the sake of consistency. You wont please everyone.

“well, it’ll please me and that’s what’s relevant”

But its better to have consistency and please as many people as possible while maintaining that. Instead of trying to please as many as you can but forsaking consistency.

“it’s better to have consistency because … I said so”

tl;dr opinions are opinions but mine is a better opinion so you should follow what i say

GummiBear.2756:

maha.7902:

I love people holding GW2 combat as some sort of holy grail.

actually get out and play a game besides GW2 and you’ll see that there are games with gameplay on par or superior to it, and LoL is one of them.

you cant really say one is better than the other really, as the 2 combat system er jsut so different on a very fundamental level

from a popularity perspective, yes you can say one is better than the other.

though if you want to argue the gameplay itself, well that’s just opinion. some people find the idea of afk farming for the first 20 minutes of league stupid and boring, I see it as an opportunity to be alone with my opponent and outplay and dominate them and to practice my farming, map awareness and the mechanics of my champion. other people just see it as for the love of god can we get past this boring phase so we can get to the 5v5s already.

but yeah, it’s all a matter of opinion. i just find it hilarious to claim a game with garbage pvp which ANet literally wanted to become an esport (****ing lol) actually has good pvp though when it’s got like one dull game mode with ridiculously obnoxious builds that you can’t even do anything about besides wait for the game to be over and has basically zero following on the grand scheme of things, hell, I’m pretty sure casual counter strike, league and hearthstone streamers rack up more viewers than official GW2 tournaments.

ymmv, but when you compare gw2 pvp getting like 2k viewers on a big tournament (where the stream disconnects and it turns out half of the “viewers” are bots) to the, what, 30 or so million who watched the league world championships last year

i mean

you compare two “esports” and … yeah. i’m pretty sure having 1,500x less viewers than another esport means it probably isn’t superior to its competition.

i mean let’s be honest, you’ve got a game with regular balance changes versus a game which doesn’t even bother to deal with a brain afk turret engi build which basically ruins solo queue for months on end.

ProtoGunner.4953:

By your logic ‘disabling a boss from attacking and moving is a legit tactic’ – you cheat your way all the time by speed clearing. Or do you kill Kholer ranged by dodging his pull attack how it is intended by the developers? Think before you direct false accusations under your self-made premises what’s right and wrong, legit and illegit.

are you saying you can’t melee and dodge the pull?

gw2 pvp is superior to its competition, despite the shortcomings.

LOL

Dawnbreaker.6215:

dlonie.6547:

Guest.8245:

What reasons did I miss for zerker only being fine?

Short answer:

Stale content is the problem, not that we’ve figured out how to do it without passive defenses after doing the exact same fights for going-on 3 years.

That’s a terrible point actually.

WoW has existed for more than 10 years and it has always had tanks, healers and nukers in every dungeon, even the ones that are old.

LoL/DoTa, just to mention an example that isn’t a MMORPG, have been going for a long time as well, and it is unthinkable to have a full nuker party. Suggesting so would get you ridiculed.

The zerk meta exists because of poor gear balancing. If tanks were a lot tankier and had a taunt (while doing much less damage), and if monsters did much more damage, it would force team setups to have tanks and nukers.

not really. you can run a squishy AP support (sona, annie, something like that), adc, assassin mid lane and two bruisers as jungler and top lane and you could probably win the game if you split pushed well or got ahead enough in the laning phase that the weakness of your composition’s team fight was irrelevant since you had a gold lead.

I love people holding GW2 combat as some sort of holy grail.

actually get out and play a game besides GW2 and you’ll see that there are games with gameplay on par or superior to it, and LoL is one of them.

ecori, you kind of remind me of atse.

i don’t actually think you’re aware of how terrible that idea was.

hundred blades, drop nine essences then circle strafe around the boss picking up essences? how is that even remotely interesting?

you should have at least gone all the way and just trolled and tried to describe some sort of puzzle mechanic. at least that way you’d draw the ire of the entire forum.

i hope that was a joke because that actually sounds like a terrible idea

dominik.9721:

maha.7902:

Besides the part where you make it blatantly obvious that you have a burning urge to reference the e$port game mode.

well let me save you the time, mesmers aren’t overpowered there either. or WvW.

and nobody here in this subforum cares about helseth or sizer or whoever the randoms are who play pretend e$ports are.

That’s a good one. You can taste the salt out of his sentences.Salty bc the “randoms” achieved sth he couldn’t achive :<

@b2topic:

Mesmer -Portal
Ranger – Spirit
Engi – nadekit
Warrior – discibanner
Guard – WoR
Nec – Wells (huge burst)
Ele – Icebow / staff itself

no salt here.

i would give a detailed response but …. meh.

i’m still adamant that the problem is with old content, not with team compositions and strategies.

nuking ice bow from orbit to make it less stupid will be nice though.

Iris Ng.9845:

maha.7902:

Iris Ng.9845:

“Mesmer” and “overpowered” in one sentence. For PvE, I think not… Blurred Frenzy would be the most used skill, while Portal would be the most characteristic.

well what other game mode do you think this thread could be about, when it’s stuck in to the fractals and dungeons forum?

No need to be hypersensitive. I don’t intend to open any debate over every single game modes here.

Besides the part where you make it blatantly obvious that you have a burning urge to reference the e$port game mode.

well let me save you the time, mesmers aren’t overpowered there either. or WvW.

and nobody here in this subforum cares about helseth or sizer or whoever the randoms are who play pretend e$ports are.

Iris Ng.9845:

“Mesmer” and “overpowered” in one sentence. For PvE, I think not… Blurred Frenzy would be the most used skill, while Portal would be the most characteristic.

well what other game mode do you think this thread could be about, when it’s stuck in to the fractals and dungeons forum?

deSade.9437:

+ 1 on the sexy british accent.
And come onnnnnnnnnnnnnn, he’s not whiny! Hes…. well, you know… ancient. Full of regrets and sorrow. He can be sassy as hell and has a lot of subtle humour.
If you romance him, he’s a total badkitty and flirts like a boss.
I didn’t romance Cullen because he sounds like a lamer version of Ali :/ nobody touches my Ali.
And sera…. dunno. She’s like… She’s so narrow-minded. I have problems with that kind of person. I can understand her, coming from that kind of background… but I don’t really like/accept it anyway :/ we are on good terms, though. I just have to avoid hot topics and humour her.
I suppose I’m fascinated by sassy/knowledgeable/intelligent/nerdy people.
Viv is just a kitten.
FREE THE MAGES

https://goo.gl/nrG8fP
https://goo.gl/HYzVkg

idk, ali is like perfection but cullen had me completely swooning too

like if you’ve seen the moment where cullen is spending time with you and then some random soldier appears with some information and cullen literally gives him the ultimate death stare, i was absolutely dying of laughter at that point

i had viv (spoiler)

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become divine post-game and she restored the circles which i was pretty happy with, after the disasters of the second and this game it’s pretty obvious from an in-game perspective that the mages can’t be trusted to be autonomous in any way (ofc if you get leli or cass it works out… but i’m not a fan of meta-knowledge when making decisions in rpgs).

I haven’t played DA:I since I found out that Sera wasn’t into dudes. Never has a dwarven rouge been hurt so deeply :’-(

that’s why you play as a fem inquis with that sexy british accent

Together with Solas. These 2 are just the nerdy mages everyone roots for.
BUT since I’m basically roleplaying as a version of myself with this particular character, you sure understand why I pick Josie <3 <3 she’s adorkable, she’s sexy, she’s super sweet, caring and also very well-learnt…. all things me likes.
Solas and Dorian always are my bros, though! Always in my party, being kittenes and talking about outfits.

i left solas at base all the time ;/

he bored me and always whined when i tried to get elfy with him

But no Viv in my party, kitten that lil b**ch

i like her and don’t see why people hate her ;’(

P.S. Did you get the apostate hobo dialogue? Awsum

idk where/what that was

why and how do you like sera? It may be hard for me to figure outbecause she’s the opposite of what I like in a romantic interest…

i didn’t really like her at first but taking her around in party (plus youtubing a bunch of her dialogue) made me really take to her. she’s weird but pretty fun at the same time.

EcoRI.9273:

Thaddeus.4891:

EcoRI.9273:

I don’t really care about the difficulty of dungeons at this point of the game because as every one has said, the content is 3years old therefore its easy but I honestly feel without icebow in FOTM, that 3year old content is still challenging.

And if they removed Icebow, we gonna have the same discussion. They said the same thing about the ferocity nerf, how it would change the meta, etc, etc and stuff would be more challenging, etc, etc and see what happened? Nothing. They can continue to nerf our DPS, we’ll still find ways to complete dungeon super fast.

Yeah probably but it will be challenging for a while until people figure out the next OP strat. And in MY ideal world if I was in charge of balancing gw2, I would probably nerf that dominant strategy in a month after its discovery. This was basically how GW1 was balanced and it kept the game fresh(at least for me).

but people didn’t use icebow for a long time and were still able to get through high level fractals just fine, hell i’m pretty sure people did fractal 79 without icebows since eles were barely even a thing back then.

yes, I agree to a nerf on icebow but I don’t agree to your rationale. it won’t suddenly make ancient content challenging, it just removes an extremely, overwhelmingly dominating utility out of the meta and enables the other classes to feel a little more on par until people come up with the next big thing. hell, it might still be stacking eles but for some other reason.

36 characters

like

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wow

errrr

but to actually answer the thread, because they have better armours, hairstyles, faces, voice, etc. etc. so basically female characters are just more aesthetically pleasing.

deSade.9437:

Took another break from gw2 to play dai, didn’t even bother to log in for the reward but I’m still kittened about the tardian. Too many things that bother me. I hope this week ends soon so I can focus on another specialisation. I just hope it won’t be the ranger else I’d be even more kittened…

Anyway, back to living The One True Love.
/sighs dreamily

I forgot to remove subs ehehe woops.

oh puh-leez

cullen and dorian are the romances you should be going for

i ****ing love dorian

EcoRI.9273:

maha.7902:

EcoRI.9273:

So I have been doing fotm lately with LOD and I have to say, the berserker team comp meta is seriously trivializing the content. Mossman gets nuked past 50% with 1 icebow freeze combo. Archdiviner’s daze with meteor shower precast followed by icebow freeze combo trivialized him. Svanir in snowblind gets nuked and literally die before teleporting up. Imbued grawl shaman icebow freeze after his bubble pops is a little too OP. Mai trin stealth icebow nuke is OP if the warrior or guard can face tank mai.

pretty sure you mean “playing with decent players is trivialising content”.

your random pug in full berserker probably isn’t melting bosses at fractal 50.

Yes, and I would prefer content to be challenging even with decent players which I feel can be accomplished by nerfing icebow and maybe a little on meteor shower.

except it won’t

we did a 4w/1g dungeon tour months ago and it was just brain afk smash your face on keyboard.

no eles required, content being three years old makes it trivial and boring.

EcoRI.9273:

So I have been doing fotm lately with LOD and I have to say, the berserker team comp meta is seriously trivializing the content. Mossman gets nuked past 50% with 1 icebow freeze combo. Archdiviner’s daze with meteor shower precast followed by icebow freeze combo trivialized him. Svanir in snowblind gets nuked and literally die before teleporting up. Imbued grawl shaman icebow freeze after his bubble pops is a little too OP. Mai trin stealth icebow nuke is OP if the warrior or guard can face tank mai.

pretty sure you mean “playing with decent players is trivialising content”.

your random pug in full berserker probably isn’t melting bosses at fractal 50.

I actually think new stuff to spend dungeon tokens on would make a helluva difference.

they could tack on free legendaries at the end of a path and they’ll still be the same boring **** people have been doing the past 3 years.

…ethnic cleanse?

have we stooped so low so as to invoke godwin on stacking?

J Eberle.9312:

Jerus.4350:

The shere scope of what they’re attempting in EQNext scares me more than the SOE/Daybreak thing. What they’re trying to make is amazing, can they pull it off and make a fun game at the same time? (For those that don’t know, they’re making a world that will be molded by the players, where not only will your decisions lead to cities and towns being created that are specific to your server but even land formations are going to break away and be shaped by the players. NPCs are coded specifically to either be in more populated areas or not, IE orcs will spawn where people have been the least, not in a specific spot for people to camp and kill. Pretty huge undertaking). Knowing some of the people working on it though, if it’s possible, they’ll do it.

I know someone who had alpha testing or whatever, he seemed very happy with it for a time and then he stopped talking about it. I don’t know what that means.

archeage

never forget

what i think about your idea is that anet have already spent two years giving us QoL and little baubles for our “hard work” beating ancient content and need to actually release more new content

which hopefully the expansion will provide

how is it a problem that people can survive three year old content without having to use defensive stats?

Raven.3248:

Since everyone 1shots lupi now, I prefer to run with noobs. true story.

welcome to what i enjoyed doing like over half a year ago

so what about now makes it the perfect time to nerf precision?

and how is a high/perfect crit rate such a weird thing? like, it’s possible in a whole bunch of games i’ve played, in fact i’m pretty sure it’s integral in a lot of trinity MMOs for the “rogue” type classes to put as much stats in to increasing their critical hit chance and their critical damage itself.

Morfedel.4165:

Thats funny. I do very well in pvp, wvw, and pve with my mesmer. yawn

that’s cool, how many times though have you seen death and taxes associated with wvw and pvp though?

yeah, that’s what I thought.

so how’s your wvw and pvp experience relevant to a thread discussing full phantasm uptime and the DPS it is capable of?

this thread is literally just mad queen frothing at the mouth and a bunch of handlers trying to put her down.

move on everyone, let her froth in peace.

Iris Ng.9845:

Need an example? Look at the new pvp leaderboard. They are trying to “fix” it and it is currently worse than it was originally. And it takes such a loooooooong time, too. Half a year and still beta testing.

bringing pvp in to the dungeon forum again?

pvp forum is that way buddy.

personally, I think if they gave bosses giant neon lights announcing when they were about to attack that would be good design.

oh what a surprise, over half of the lfgs are simply specifying path numbers, a player specifying they are new to the path or “anyone welcome”.

so yeah, cool story bro, feel free to carry on lying about what you see on the LFG.

I guarantee you I could boot the game up right now and there would be a couple of lfgs which don’t have those requirements.

Gyler.8150:

Anyone who full clears Arah p4 should get a legendary, should be an achievement called “Are you having fun now?”

try doing the cannon event after simin, it’s hella fun.

did it once, probably wouldn’t do it again lol.

I think Dungeons would be better if they removed the gold prize AND caused aggro’d mobs to never break out of combat and be able to follow players

so you just stealth past

problem solved, and you just made thieves compulsory for fast dungeon runs

because … it is a grindy f2p?

you add almost jack all to your game for two years yet you need to keep people interested. so what do you do? you add pointless baubles and outfits for people to play dress up with but stick them behind massive time gates to keep them playing.

“PHYW” is a term ANet used ages ago to refer to the fact when hyping GW2 that you could do any kind of content and be rewarded for it. Forumers took it out of context to say that they could do whatever they want and be accepted in to dungeons/fractals/world boss instances/etc and that it wasn’t fair if things were not to be like that.

wauwi.9162:

Windsagio.1340:

There is the use of PHIW as a perjorative, of course.

Yeah, they’re kind of the exact opposite, of what’s know as the “elitist”.

How would you call an awfully geared player, who’s still knowledgable in the ways of the dungeon runner?

how about “players with suboptimal builds”?

people whine about being branded as elitists but then throw around this “PHIW” as if it’s okay for them to do it back.

Let’s think of a sentence where this could work:

1. “I’m sick of having to deal with PHYW’s getting in to my zerker only groups”

2. “I’m sick of having to deal with players bringing suboptimal builds in to my zerker only groups”

the dungeon community is branded as elitists because of the misconceptions of the majority and the actions of the few condemning this majority to being negatively labeled. why, seemingly confirm their perception by referring to lesser skilled players as “PHYW”, giving an enormous aura of supremacy to their post(s)? what do you gain out of it besides venting your frustrations?

I don’t think enough people care about how they’re perceived. being in the guild I’m in taught me that both actions and words are important, and there’s no point trying to claim you’re not something and then doing pretty much anything in your power to basically confirm to everyone else that you are what you claim you aren’t.

what does pvp have anything to do with dungeon balance?

J Eberle.9312:

I just listen to metal that isn’t too screamo

weakling

comparing an in-game lfg tool to racial segregation

el oh el

Windsagio.1340:

maha.7902:

Windsagio.1340:

In general, this thread is a ‘why do they hate us?’

I find in my own life that the most common answer to that question is ’it’s because I’m being obnoxious’.

That’s the thing I’d like to have folks get out of this. As easy as it is to look outward and blame/insult others it’s much more useful, if you actually care about fixing the situation, to look inwards

so what was it you were trying to say about the people in the guild I’m in again?

I regret the reference, don’t wanna get into a flame war.

lol, can’t even dignify me with an actual response.

for the record, it’s the guild you named which is what releases a whole load of video guides on different classes, and in the past how to even perform dungeon paths (like, strife era).

and then you’ve got people like me who read posts on here of some guy who wanted to know how to solo lupicus with no energy sigils (couldn’t afford them) so I booted up my game and sent two of them over to him.

but sure, we’re filthy scum.

want to know why people here are fed up of “casuals” and whatever other perjoratives they throw around? it’s because of attitudes like this. you bust your balls to help the community and then you get it thrown in your face because people don’t know what they’re talking about and would rather trash talk groups of people who they don’t even understand. not saying the other end of it (the side referring to others as casuals, etc.) is in the right, but regardless.

it’s irritating.

The moment I wanna play around with a condi mesmer out of curiosity in fractals, or start using weapons on my warrior that isn’t axe/mace + greatsword like a mace/shield missile deflection build EVEN if I am full zerker I am crucified the moment someone catches onto it. The only people who do this are zerker meta enthusiasts.

strange, I’ve pugged on condi warrior, I’ve taken shield out on one or two occasions and other off-meta weapon choices and haven’t been crucified for it.

then again, I don’t join “ZERK ONLY” groups.

Windsagio.1340:

In general, this thread is a ‘why do they hate us?’

I find in my own life that the most common answer to that question is ’it’s because I’m being obnoxious’.

That’s the thing I’d like to have folks get out of this. As easy as it is to look outward and blame/insult others it’s much more useful, if you actually care about fixing the situation, to look inwards

so what was it you were trying to say about the people in the guild I’m in again?

Windsagio.1340:

2 kinds of props:

“I hope people look cool! or I hope people are impressed by my playing!”

vs.

“I’m better than all the casuals and bads for doing this.”

And on one hand there’s no reason to believe that dungeon people are part 2, but then again DnT exists.

sorry, you called?

im pretty sure guardian binding blade and mesmer temporal curtain groups mobs up just fine, lol

and no, the buff radius as is supports teamplay, increasing the range will support sitting at range doing nothing

i honestly didn’t know runes of fire actually existed

dlonie.6547:

rfdarko.4639:

This is going to be like the vote kick change. A few months of “I’ll get back to you” before a change goes in randomly with no word back whatsoever. It’s not a huge deal but I wish we could at least have a “The developers told me what happened was ‘x’, they are planning to do ‘y’, I can’t give you a time but it’s on their short list of bug fixes.”

Or Alphard’s bug. Back when she was broken I actually got an infraction for daring to ask a direct question addressed to the dev team in a polite, friendly way. Hopefully that nonsense doesn’t start up again.

Let’s remember how that went: several months of people asking “is this intentional or not?”, no reply, and then one day it was magically fixed.

Gaile, you remember all of the communication threads, right? This is the sort of thing we’re talking about. Talk to us like people, engage in discussions, let us know what’s going on. As long as there are major bugs that go unacknowledged for months, you can’t seriously believe that there is an acceptable level of communication here by any standard.

guess what happened when they tried communicating? when regina wanted a bunch of threads about the different dungeons? a whole bunch of “omg why have you guys ignored us, let’s get our circlejerk together and flame the ANet staff”.

i’m not defending their practice and saying it is acceptable, but there’s good reason they don’t communicate.

Who are we kidding with diversity and/or viability? Don’t try to make Signet or Miam mesmer happen.

but according to HRH Iris the mesmer class is a bountiful wonderland of build diversity.

But you see, I’m just an inferior PvE being who can’t quite comprehend this diversity.