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ow yeah this doesnt only give me a full cooldown 100b, but at that point i also spend my bulls charge for nothing!

This happens ALL the time on rangers, and sometimes on thief (i think its because they reach a % health)

When you knockdown a thief or ranger they enter stealth due to traits,
You still knocked them down they only gain stealth at that point, why on earth does it stops my 100b at that point and goes into FULL cooldown..

This happens if i use bulls charge > 100b

You swing your Greatword only once and then the animation start doing very weird things but it does stops you from doing damage and the skill is on full cooldown

Mbelch.9028:

I’d love to see how you enforce this. Many thieves bind multiple buttons

Well i do hope anet can see this and do something about it.. These days eles are super fast! Blasting multiple skills at once for big bursts attacks. And i dont say they all use it but some does because they are waaay to fast for pressing those skills at once.

I agree on this. Nameplates are waaay to big on distance. Make it a name at 0-2000 range and icon after 2000 range.

What i also hate is zerg vs zerg.. Full screen of red names makes me hate zerging. You dont even see players because your screen is FULL of names because of pets turrets clones etc etc

Hmm that sucks, :p

So if i am realistic you get defy pain around 4k health on 20k total.. Because 5k is just to perfect.

4k health left + defy pain could save your life but in most situations its over when the 4sec endure pain ends because you often get some conditions also, so endure pain on skill bar is ofc much better but than i have to get last stand trait.

Last stand works great vs hammer warrs + endure pain skill will be enough against them. But vs classes with short CC skills every lets say 30 sec it wouldnt do much so there balance stance skill would be better.

Can we have an extra skill slot pls? :P

i will try them both for some days.

Yeah so many questions but i want to do it right :p

K

Should i get option 1 or option 2
(other skill slots are already spend)

Option 1:
>Last stand trait 90s CD
Benefit: passive activation… Really nice!
Downside: long cooldown
+
>endure pain skill 60s CD
Benefit: you can activate it when really need it
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Option2:
>defy pain trait 60s CD
downside: activates only below 25% health.. When. this is active you are already almost dead. Or it activates when you dont really need it.
+
>Balance stance skill 40s CD
benefit: low cooldown compared to the trait
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i prefer option 1: what do you guys think?

@warlord, still have that signature? Haha i remeber that movie how stupid the warr run arround trying to land 100b and saying he/you did all the damage.. Already 1,5 year ago i think? Haha still good!

Yeahi used it yesterday and i did saw the extra damage when fightinga guardian.. Feels good when i see them with 6+ boons ghehe, love it!

Thanx guys!

Carpboy.7145:

nicknamenick.2437:

Carpboy.7145:

And then signet mastery for the adept slot

Well i think +25% movement speedis much much better in wvw compared to the rest of adept and master traits.

Btw i also have last stand trait so i dont really use the dolyak signet that much so i can benefit more from the passive..

Does all classes have allot of boons?

Warrior is almost always 3 boons
Guardian en engi both have more.. Like 5 boons
Ele and ranger around 3?
Necro mesmer and thief? Dont really have much i guess?

The way i see it is signet mastery also increases your run speed by lessening the CD on SoR. Youll only have 18 seconds of downtime, even less if you have any boon duration. I never use warriors sprint unless im using all stances or something.

Mesmers and thieves commonly have 2-4 boons as well, not sure about necros but i know they commonly have retal, prot, might, fury, swiftness are their most common

Hmmm yeah lol your right.. so signet mastery + DotE and dropping 25% speed trait

So with signet mastery, should i go for berserker stance or Dolyak signet?
Dolyak would give me more defense because i also have last stand.
But i also drop 25% speed trait now so an extra swiftness from balance stance (and -8s CD) is also nice…

Sooo much options :-P

Xae Isareth.1364:

Why don’t you use ‘Shake It Off!’? Shortest CD, stun breaks and removes a condition.

Wow i didnt know it is a stun breaker also :p could be good also.. Not when facing hammer warr without the boon stability

Carpboy.7145:

And then signet mastery for the adept slot

Well i think +25% movement speedis much much better in wvw compared to the rest of adept and master traits.

Btw i also have last stand trait so i dont really use the dolyak signet that much so i can benefit more from the passive..

Does all classes have allot of boons?

Warrior is almost always 3 boons
Guardian en engi both have more.. Like 5 boons
Ele and ranger around 3?
Necro mesmer and thief? Dont really have much i guess?

With signet master i can use dolyak signet for extra 180 tougness (-3,5% / 4% damage)
And -12 sec cooldown on signet of rage

With destruction of the empowered you often get +6% damage, on some classes it can be easy +15% damage.
(3% per boon)

I have a hard time to deside, what would you do and why?

Its for wvw/roaming

Thanx

DaShi.1368:

This thread is reading like warriors and thieves who believe that their build should not only win against every other build, but should win quickly against every other build. If they can’t, then those builds must be OP.

So we get complains like, they take to long to kill and are boring to play against. It’s just more self requests from bad players who expect their PvP experience to be the same as their PvE experience. As true spoiled children, they threaten to quit, if they don’t get their way.

well that post is very helpful..

If I am good or not, pve player or pvp player or whatever… if I am 12 years or 50 years. it doenst matter, fighting those bunker classes issnt fun.
they should do something about it, give them other options or whatever.. how they master capture points is just ridiculous.

Flissy.4093:

Condi engies tend to lack condition removal (usually have it on healing turret only) and often has ZERO stability. If they take either of those in a greater amount, they kitten their condis.

Its an L2P issue, just like all PvP whines.

“Dear Anet,

Nerf paper! Scissors is fine though.

Sincerely, rock".

No its not a L2p issue, the problem issnt that you cant defeat them..
the problem is HOW to defeat them because it takes waaay to long to defeat them.

First:
You cant stay on capture point because you get kittened around because of there turrets and condi spam bombs etc..

Second:
So you have to keep some distance, this turns into a boring fight where the engi keeps the capture point, at the moment you kill them (If ofc) you are already behind points and the engi is right back in 10 sec.

And I aint complaining about OPness or anything, just saying this makes PVP boring to play.

All I see these days are kitten boring engies in pvp doing massive condi spams or those annoying boring bunker engies that will never ever leaves the capture point.

even 3 people issnt enough to get those bunker types of engies down, its just boring as hell and its doesnt make this game fun to play.

freaking nerf that crap, done with it

Dee Jay.2460:

We can’t have an objective debate about Warriors balance as long as Healing Signet and Adrenal Healing are ticking away for over 600 HPS. That’s just ridiculous. It turns every Block, every immunity and every evade into a 1-4k heal.

Yes, other things are probably OP too but nothing comes close to the passive healing. And until we see it nerfed/changed we can’t really objectively kitten other imbalances.

HAHAHa! You must be living in 2013 i think?
Because i and almost all warriors get around 360-370 from HS these days.. And lets say you have always 50% adrenaline (full adrenaline is never using CI so 50% is much more reality) thats another 50 health per second…

so its around 410-420

but ofc still people think its 600+ hps…

Reborn.2934:

added the +7% critical from https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/7-Sigil-doesnt-work-after-dead

Thank you!

Now pls remove your fixed rush/bulls messages because I don’t get why you posted that, they did say they fixed it a long time ago but the skills still keeps missing al placing you behind target.

looks like its only for +7% sigil.

Yup same here!! sorry didn’t saw this post but I just made a topic also here..
you have to remove ALL weapons to get the +7% crit again

Nope same bug also in pve…

After you died and use Teleport back u don’t get the sigils, you have to remove your weapons first to get the sigils bonus again

seems like not much people used/tested this trait..

Atleast in wvw (in all game modes).

I have +7% crit sigil, after I died they don’t apply..
I have to remove all weapons and swap them back to have +7% crit again.

The trait “Last Stand” grants stability when your dazed, knocked down, launched, pushed back, or stunned.

Cooldown is 90 sec

That’s nice but on a long cooldown so its “ok”

But not when it activates when you already HAVE stability….

Can you pls fix this so it only activates when your are really dazed, knocked down, launched, pushed back, or stunned.
Because when I already have a stability boon I cant be dazed etc… so it shouldn’t activate the trait.

its last hitting animation is so slow and its stops you moving that they could just walk away from it.

Or you get behind the target (with bulls it happens allot)

Or you keep walking and walking and walking and nothing happens

If opponent goes into stealth they should still be damaged!

Except that stealth interrupts allot of skills! I have posted here also about 100b..
When opponent goes into stealth right after using 100b it will interrupt the skill and goes into FULL cooldown! this happens to more chain skills.

That’s a Hard counter!!

Also opponents using skills right before stealth ends there is just ZERO animation from it for the other to see, like thiefs using dagger storm.

Again Hard counter!!

When are you going to fix these problems with stealth, stealth on its own is already kitten annoying.

simonerd.8672:

Op is a think that only a class can abuse macking the game unbalanced, runes of strenght aren’t OP all calss can use !

END OF THE STORY!

So if there are runes that gives you 1000 to all stats you say its balanced?? because yeah every class can run them…

It doesn’t make them balanced if every class can use/run them.
It makes the rune unbalanced because the other runes are far behind these runes, that’s why its unbalanced.

And yes I agree they are way to good now.
They overbuffed its might duration
They buffed its +% damage from 5% to 7%
AND the buffed it so you will ALWAYS get the +% damage because of rune #4..

its no problem to stack 25 might in a few seconds and keep them in combination with runes of strength..

that’s +875 strength and +875 condition damage…

Issnt that a bit to much if you can keep it that high??

no idea why they buffed the runes.. and still don’t understand why you can stack 25 of them.. cant say this is balanced

and yes I use them also in pvp :-) still not happy it gives so much

jihm.2315:

wanna trade with guardians greatsword?

With a leap and a pull + mobile 100b (k more 70b it does less damage but much faster) AA also does more damage and AoE field.

Compared to a ranged cripple and slow rush that never hits. 100b thats sucks vs players or you need to use different skills/weapons.. Build around it so 100b could be usefull. Crappy AA and F1 sucks.. Only reason i use it is for evade whirl + escape.

I think the guardian GS will do good on warr. But cant miss whirl also

All it needs is an damage increase on F1 to make it a real burst based on adrenaline. I can AA more..

And rush needs to be way faster and shorter animation so it hits. Or decrease it to 900 range and make it a leap

Thats it.

Running almost same build..
But i go for 0/30/25/0/15 for furious.. I get so much adrenaline now so i can cleanse more.
Still using lyssa (so in total i have 60crit chance without sigil/buffs)because i can use GS F1 also because i get enough adrenaline, that way i almost crit all the time.

Skill: berserker stance / balance stance / and used to run endure but now bulls, i just like this skill.

Still this build works great. Not the best in pvp but in wvw i have so much gapclosing

Salvage? So i have like 50% chance to get it? Or buy those salvaging stuff with gems? Grrrrr i hate this

Got some nice and expencive runes in my exotic armor. Got some ascended armor ready now and ofc i want the runes in them.. How??

pls take a look to guardian hammer of wisdown

AA for almost 8k damage on my heavy warrior in pvp!

Pls at the guardian hammer of wisdom to the list… it hits me (warrior) for almost 8k with a smash attack!! watte is wrong with that skill?

here

here got atleast 1 screenshot

Spicyhash.7605:

Is that the spawned weapon? Does ANet even have the letters Q and A in their alphabet?

yes its the spawned weapon and it must be broken or something..
a single skill that hits for 8k on heavy armor in PVP where you don’t have food/buffs etc etc and low ferocity.. something is wrong with that skill..
The guardian did not want to tell but he even says it hits 12k on most classes.
that’s insane for a PET!!!

Got hit by 8k with that hammer on my warrior in pvp!!
that guardian just 1 killed every light class with that hammer of wisdom..

is it bugged? because if a warrior gets hits for 8k I don’t wanna know how much this must be on light..

Windwalker.2047:

What.
It gives 0.8% crit dmg less and +18 to all stats!

+8 to all stats
+10 to all stats
+12 to all stats
+14 to all stats
+16 to all stats
+18 to all stats
= 78 / 15 = 5,2% crit damage

before
(1): +10 to All Stats; +2% Critical Damage
(2): +10 to All Stats; +2% Critical Damage
(3): +10 to All Stats; +2% Critical Damage
(4): +10 to All Stats; +2% Critical Damage
(5): +10 to All Stats; +2% Critical Damage
(6): +10 to All Stats; +2% Critical Damage

= 12% crit damage..

where do you get your math?

Windwalker.2047:

I agree they should put rush on a 40 sec cd if you dont hit anything and lower healing signet passive by 33%.

go back to your corner.

Edited:

Sorry about that, didnt know your 6 years old (i guess)
Go back to school… lol:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/balance/Divinity-runes/first#post3906137

ofc what we will see after another year..

Rush: Added skill fact so it shows a % of hitrate based on its terrain (max is 50%)

All i see in the balance patch is added a skill fact…
This is what we have been waiting for so many months? this was supposed to be THE balance patch??

GS F1 burst attack does terrible low damage, AA does more!!
Also it doesnt increase its damage based on adrenaline lvl…
The extra fury is good, reduce its cast time and buff its damage.

And fix the kitten rush!!

Uhtameit.2413:

nicknamenick.2437:

Uhtameit.2413:

It’s a bug fix, even the wiki reported the trait as being bugged.

It’s not ‘boohoo every class has bad minors so lets nerf all of the decent ones", it’s more like "boo hoo most minor traits are bad and this is a bug fix, not a nerf ". Glad I could help.

You suffer every single day through http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Last_Refuge ? do you play WvW? most thieves in PvP play s/p or d/p with 10 30 0 0 30 and s/d thieves don’t have points in SA usually. Because really, WvW is not meant to be balanced or it wouldn’t have PvE gear.

Given that you repeated yourself, it does sound like are you literally suffering from Last Refuge. I am so very sorry for you.

When did I say I had issue with warriors? I said they were OP, which they are. You are getting very much frustrated and have been unconstructive from the start.

Again, I suggest you open a thread and offer ways to buff that minor, I’m sure ArenaNet will listen as they always do and will definitely buff warrior asap as it is in dire need of help.

wiki maby says its giving 50% endurance back.. where it also says: endurance gained: 15

well full endurance is 30..
So the tooltip is right because you DO get 50% endurance back.. if it was a tooltip bug you wouldn’t get 15 (50%) endurance back.
If it did give only ~5 (15%) endurance back, well than it was a tooltip bug…
so now its both the tooltip AND the skill on its own where both bugged? and they needed 1,5 year to fix that?! in a terrible way..

I get that 15 (50%) is to much because you even get it on lvl 1 adrenaline. but make it so you get more if you spend more adrenaline..

You quoted a message that wasn’t even adressing you. Please read this:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/balance/Building-momentum-another-sneaky-nerf/first#post3886980

Before spouting more nonsense. Full endurance is 100, and 15 is 15% (10 is also 10%, as that other endurance-related trait shows).

I quoted on a section of your post here that is about building momentum..
and because this topic is about building momentum and I made it I can reply on this wouldn’t be it?

and indeed your right about endurance is 100 and not 30.
tested it with Wild Strike that give 10 endurance back.

But that still doesn’t address the big nerf on it, because 15 endurance on a burst skill that cant be spammed like AA Wild Strike or something like that is terrible as a minor Master trait. and it still doesn’t promote you to use lvl1 or lvl2 or lvl3 adrenaline…

Uhtameit.2413:

It’s a bug fix, even the wiki reported the trait as being bugged.

It’s not ‘boohoo every class has bad minors so lets nerf all of the decent ones", it’s more like "boo hoo most minor traits are bad and this is a bug fix, not a nerf ". Glad I could help.

You suffer every single day through http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Last_Refuge ? do you play WvW? most thieves in PvP play s/p or d/p with 10 30 0 0 30 and s/d thieves don’t have points in SA usually. Because really, WvW is not meant to be balanced or it wouldn’t have PvE gear.

Given that you repeated yourself, it does sound like are you literally suffering from Last Refuge. I am so very sorry for you.

When did I say I had issue with warriors? I said they were OP, which they are. You are getting very much frustrated and have been unconstructive from the start.

Again, I suggest you open a thread and offer ways to buff that minor, I’m sure ArenaNet will listen as they always do and will definitely buff warrior asap as it is in dire need of help.

wiki maby says its giving 50% endurance back.. where it also says: endurance gained: 15

well full endurance is 30..
So the tooltip is right because you DO get 50% endurance back.. if it was a tooltip bug you wouldn’t get 15 (50%) endurance back.
If it did give only ~5 (15%) endurance back, well than it was a tooltip bug…
so now its both the tooltip AND the skill on its own where both bugged? and they needed 1,5 year to fix that?! in a terrible way..

I get that 15 (50%) is to much because you even get it on lvl 1 adrenaline. but make it so you get more if you spend more adrenaline..

NinjaEd.3946:

If the animation isn’t being shown when they exit stealth during the channel its a bug not a l2p issue. If they havn’t technically hit anyone in whirlwind and are managing to refelect projectiles then the thief is smart at blocking their ally and then it is a slight l2p issue but nothing serious. Just gata pay attention to those missles’ path.

this… its not about a l2p issue.. ofc I stop shooting if I see my arrows getting reflected.
the problem is you don’t see any animation.. so you don’t know they are using whirlwind.. thiefs doing this more and more from stealth, it is a bug

If thief goes into stealth and use whirlwind right before the stealth ends the opponent wont see any animation.

for me its like the thief is just walking..
Fix it pls because whirlwind also reflect arrows, now there is no counter to it if you don’t see it.

If thief goes into stealth and use whirlwind right before the stealth ends the opponent wont see any animation.

for me its like the thief is just walking..
Fix it pls because whirlwind also reflect arrows, now there is no counter to it if you don’t see it.

Liewec.2896:

nicknamenick.2437:

And how many nerfs for hammer? I lost counting on this weapon… too many!

and yet after the patch hambow will remain as ridiculous as it is now.
whenever i play hammer war i roam around 3 shotting eles.
it is ridiculous, it needs atleast 50% damage reduction across the board.

when it comes to warrior nerfs i have no remorse, 6 months of hambow is enough…
such a low risk/high reward build that is so incredibly easy to play, it should have been nerfed months ago.

This issnt only about hambow, don’t you see this affects ALL warrior builds? building momentum issnt a hambow trait, and longbow issnt a MUST have weapon only for hambow builds. they are nerfing it the wrong way.

Besides lyssa nerf and ferocity we also get:

Healing signet nerf

4 nerfs in total for longbow now!!
2x Combustive shot nerf (radius and its damage)
1x Pin down nerf (Obvious Animation ofc.. from 1/4 to 3/4 cast time)
1x Arcing arrow nerf (nerfed it by 15%!! )

- Impale, applies tormet from 10 to 4 sec

And how many nerfs for hammer? I lost counting on this weapon… too many!
well here’s another one:
- Merciless Hammer – from 25% to 20%.

Ok, some nerfs I must agree.. but a hard nerf on building momentum is just so badly done!!!! you made it to give 15 endurance when using burst! not 15%!!! after 1,5 years you now say it was a bug and the tooltip should say 15% and not 15?!?! really!!!! that’s the way you want to sneaky nerf more!? Make it so you can get more from it when using more adrenaline!! now it doesn’t matter if i spent 1 adrenaline bar to get endurance or 3 adrenaline bars.. you still get the same!

make it so:
LVL 1: gives 20% endurance back (or 15%)
LVL 2: gives 30% endurance back (or 25%)
LVL 3: gives 40% endurance back (or 50%)
for people don’t know: 50% endurance = 15 endurance.. like the old building momentum, but now it takes you a full adrenaline bar, sounds more fair to me!

Anet you deside how much but atleast make it more useful because 15% endurance back on lvl 1 or lvl3 is just sooo BAD and lame you didn’t even spend more time to think about how to nerf if properly!

Do you remember saying longbow burst skill restores to many adrenaline??? because that’s the reason you where nerfing it, and we ALL replied by saying burst skills DOESNT give ANY adrenaline!!! only with furious you get some if it crits.. but nope Anet always say they DO listing to us!! WHEN? WHERE? right now also?? I don’t think so

not bad indeed Hoax, but that’s wvw where you get -40% condi food also.
Wonder how that build works in pvp.. care to share? it does looks very nice :-) but very tricky… but I like the style!

sminkiottone.6972:

So you want the warrior to be the best class in zerg play and also 1vs1/ small skirmishes ?
What else, best class in sPvP ?

Just erase every other class then… or L2P.

I already told here i understand the nerfs on hammer/longbow because of group play. But i am talking about duels here. So yes i admit they are to strong in that aspect (zerging/tpvp). So fine with the nerfs. What i dont get is why anet issnt doing anything about other weapons so with diff weapons you can be good in duels but not that great in zerg.. And the way around ofc.