Guild Wars 2

maddoctor.2738:

nicknamenick.2437:

go ahead and pick any build besides condi and fight any good thief/Mesmer/dps guards (they are insane compared to warrior)/necro.. engi/ and even ele.

Why “besides condi”?

First because warrior shouldnt be a condi spec (my opinion)

Second: conditions is a problem in general (bunker and damage etc etc) not going to tell more about condi. You will figure it out yourself how broken (OP) it can be

ArmageddonAsh.6430:

You know duels don’t just happen in S/TPvP right…
They are insane in 1 Vs 1 in WvW so they get buffed for S/TPvP then they would become even more broken in WvW.

Warriors are better in wvw yes, same for the other classes. No difference.

Flytrap.8075:

nicknamenick.2437:

ArmageddonAsh.6430:

Azukas.1426:

Not sure if OP is serious

He can’t be, that or he is the WORST warrior in the history of GW2. I have seen one that has been able to keep insane numbers of immobilize, fear and insane damage meanwhile having blocks and immunities....

Warrior are FAR from terrible in Duels. They will win more than they lose. Unless the Warrior is awful.

Unless you face good players on thiefs/mesmers/dps guards/necro. And if you aint running condi (we all know this spec is OP) or hambow (that is good but not the best duel build compared to those classes) you have a terrible low win rate.

Yeah go ahead and play some hotjoin etc and your like a god. Now bring that into 1vs1 servers and you have zero chance. Go ahead and deny it, but its the true and because hambow did its job we see more nerfs that not only affect that build but also others builds.

Maybe you should stick to PvE.

Maybe you should check 1vs1 servers and see the problem for yourself.

anet is forcing us to go condi.

Anet nerfs the best weaponset from warrior but its forcing us to use them (longbow) if you run anything else you will be outplayed.

And even if you play hambow you will never win from those classes because the rotation is just way to easy to avoid. In group it will be good because you cant focus them good but in duel it issnt that hard to avoid there cc chain and soon pin down. problem is Anet doesnt care about duels and the nerfs for warr is understanding from a teamed view. But atleast give them some options to be more skilled in duels. Because most warr weapons just do 1 thing: damage, landing it? Thats still a big problem.

look at the builds we had in the past.. Almost all where build to setup 1 burst and nothing more like old frenzy 100b or stun to 100b. Or evi after shield bash etc etc. All simple rotations that works but not against good players. And between your burst rotation there is just nothing to do for warr besides getting damaged. Where other classes can have sooo much more in the mean time.. Teleport away.. Spamming your blinds.. Go stealth etc etc... All to create time for next burst rotation. What does a warrior do? Blow his stances. Blow your shield stance maby.. So after 2 or 3 rotations your doomed because there is just nothing left to avoid getting hit. This is the problem is see for warriors

ArmageddonAsh.6430:

Azukas.1426:

Not sure if OP is serious

He can’t be, that or he is the WORST warrior in the history of GW2. I have seen one that has been able to keep insane numbers of immobilize, fear and insane damage meanwhile having blocks and immunities….

Warrior are FAR from terrible in Duels. They will win more than they lose. Unless the Warrior is awful.

Unless you face good players on thiefs/mesmers/dps guards/necro. And if you aint running condi (we all know this spec is OP) or hambow (that is good but not the best duel build compared to those classes) you have a terrible low win rate.

Yeah go ahead and play some hotjoin etc and your like a god. Now bring that into 1vs1 servers and you have zero chance. Go ahead and deny it, but its the true and because hambow did its job we see more nerfs that not only affect that build but also others builds.

LunarNacht.8913:

There are skills to the right of your healing signet.

That we need for atleast 1 stunbreaker/stability and berserker stance.. So you can have 1 skill to work with your weapon like bulls or immob… Where every class gets them IN there weapon skills

Azukas.1426:

Not sure if OP is serious

I am!

they suck in duels!

go ahead and pick any build besides condi and fight any good thief/Mesmer/dps guards (they are insane compared to warrior)/necro.. engi/ and even ele.

ow yeah ranger is not that hard.. besides that warrior does suck in real duels vs GOOD players, not average or newbies. go and look on the 1vs1 servers and see they suck. some warriors can go good with ofc hambow or condi builds, but any other build just sucks..

look at GS:
rooted kitten burst.. clunky rush. terrible F1

Axe:
nice damage, what does it more? nothing .. axe off hand is terrible

sword:
hybrid but its lacking some real damage if you play zerker. only final thrust hits hard but good luck trying to hit that in duel. lol

rifle:
nice damage but terrible in duel..

mace:
slow.. so terrible slow, offhand is terrible

and we have ofc hammer and longbow.
both are good weapon but gets soooo much nerfs after nerfs after nerfs and anet doesn’t give anything back on other weapons or anything.

Fix Gs so it issnt a rooted 100b.. like guardian, and do something about F1 and rush

Fix Axe > give evi more range > move damage more at the beginning of the chain, axe off hand… just remove it from the game. look at skill 4… really!??!? 3sec fury and low damage.. ?!? that’s it!?!

Fix mace > give it some form of cripple or anything.. way to hard to land a single skill with that weapon, off hand is terrible.. 4 stacks of vuln!?! that’s a skill?? really? maby give tremor a cripple.

Fix sword > give it more raw damage on the last hit of the chain, its just does way to low damage. make final thrust less clunky

Fix rifle > no idea.. its just a terrible weapon in duels. does nothing more than damage..

look at the weapon skills from thief or mesmers or guardian etc.. shadowsteb > blind > teleport > pull > etc etc.. so much more to bring into a duel compared to warrior doing 1 thing damage.. landing your damage? haha that’s your problem

boehoe.. just wait max 8 sec and hes yours for 60sec… soo OP.. lol

besides condi warrior they are just BAD!

yes they are! they may be good in teamed play, but in duels they are just bad.

go ahead and say warrior have OP healing and OP skills like endure pain etc etc bla bla bla.. but there weapon skills are just so kitten easy to read and there damage is lame compared to dps guards or any thief.. other classes have so much ways to get out for free and instant or easy to land burst skills/rotations, where are left with nerfs and nerfs and nerfs just because they are GOD vs ALL noobs/newbies but sadly terrible agains ANY good player in duels.

its -10% damage

not -10% crit damage

Assassins trinkets

and for pvp:
berserker amulet with toughness instead of vitality

fillywit.4287:

new Build

thanks for the help guys. if found that a a cross with cav armour and valk trinks gets me only ~100 less power for much more survivability

switched to sword for bleed uptime and the damage increase overall, beating the discipline trait, and shield was tossed for war horn for more mobility.

again, thanks and any more suggestions are welcome!

looks much better now! :-)

I do wonder if the 3x crit sigil and low crit chance is going to be enough.. not sure yet. but atleast you have way more defensive stats now also.

i really dont like valkyri… we already have a high health pool..
Changed traits also, so you get more adrenaline with both weapons and +10% damage on bleeding targets (rifle is bleeding on AA) also increased crit chance with 35% so its now 55%.. so you get more bleeding chance from precise strikes + 50% longer bleeding from trait.. this will make sure you will always benefit from the +10% damage..

Ok you lost
-3500 health
-15% crit damage

You get:
+10% damage
+35% crit chance (in total 55%)
+50% bleeding duration
+10% crit chance on burst
+ 1 adrenaline on crit for both weapons (volley!!)
With this build your sigils will also be more usefull.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vIAQNAneUn8cQdHWKIefAdIGQwM0wq48IATCyTfYOA-zQCBYfCiUGgkGAEHQZmEZs5pQFXFRjVXDT5iIqGA-e

Ozzrel.9825:

Assuming a 2600 armor target:
build 1:
2120/2600*0.45+2120/2600*0.55*2.1=1.3
with fury and 25 might: 2.1
build 2:
2090/2600*0.4+2090/2600*0.6*2.05=1.31
with fury and 25 might: 2.098

Wow nice math!! how do you guys know this stuff :-) thanx!!

So basically they are same (atleast VERY close…)

thanx guys! i go for build 1, because its the same as build 2, for build 2 i also need to craft another 3 ascended weapons.. so i take the easy way and go for build 1.

Thanx!

Thaddeus.4891:

If your numbers are good.

With or without fury, the best DPS is Build 2, followed by Build 1, then Build 3.

With 25 stack of bloodlust, or with Might, or with both, its Build 2, followed by Build 3, then Build 1

With 25 stack of perception, its Build 2, followed by Build 1, followed by build 3.

So i guess that i would take build 2. But if you really want the defence that the build 3 can give you, you can min-max your stuff (from sigil, boons, buff, etc) to minimize your DPS lost.

thanx! but how did you calculate that?
because build 1 does have more power and + 5% crit damage compared to build 2..
ofc build 2 have 5% more crit chance…

Ozzrel.9825:

Wanted to do that math… but you provided attack instead of power, which is a meaningless number.

Yup sorry, i updated it :-)

Hello warriors,

I cant decide what stat combo i want.
I have 3 options, maby you could help me to choose:

Build 1
3120 attack (2120 power)
55% crit chance (no fury)
2950 armor
60% crit damage (new ferocity)

Build 2
3090 attack (2090 power)
60% crit chance (no fury)
2950 armor
55% crit damage (new ferocity)

Build 3
3060 attack (2060 power)
60% crit chance (no fury)
3050 armor
50% crit damage (new ferocity)

As you can see:
Build1: ++ damage / – crit chance / – defensive
Build2: – damage / +crit chance / – defensive
Build3: – - damage / +crit chance / +defensive

What would you get and why?

first thing i read is: is too strong right now in PvP….

You want to nerf

(again.. number 4 nerf on longbow) combustive shot.
Doesnt matter if you get blinded or not or the hit radius.. you drop an aoe on the ground. even blinded you can drop it..

Again nerfs for hammer..

Nerf on cleansing ire, only removes 2 conditions on full adrenaline and zero on 1 adrenaline bar?
But you give more condition remove options on warhorn trait etc.. this will only hurt more builds because now cleansing ire issnt enough so you need another trait for more cleansing..

Anet already nerfed so many damage on longbow and hammer.. (even other weapons) after we get sustain, if you nerf our sustain now also we are worse than before.

just no

Adamsdjr.1350:

Ranger skills are garbage warriors are god-like…yeah ok

its takes a GM trait..

nobody is going to take any of the new GM traits on warriors.

because it will cost you a different good GM trait the warriors are using right now.

-100% on burst is in 30 strength, nobody is going that far in that traitline

-10% attack speed.. you wont even feel or see the difference, besides its only there when using a sword/axe/mace in offhand.. nobody use it because they suck, besides sword off hand, but that’s a 100% condi weapon so they don’t benefit much

-+ armor on stun break… ok well first if you use endure pain for a stun break you wont need any extra armor.. maby its nice when using other stun breakers but still it cost you a different trait like endure pain on 25% health or for hambow warrior it will cost you either hammer trait or cleansing ire..

-might for allies, warrior itself doesn’t benefit from it.. could be nice for a might stacking boost party.. but the only reason warriors go 30 into this traitline is to get healing on banner or healing on shouts.. well not sure if any warrior will give that up for some might..

-the last one is silly, remove blind on swap… why not just auto attack 1 more?? no lets skip the rotation and swap your weapon, this also cost you burst mastery…

so overall you wont see warriors running this, maby some experimenting it but that’s it.

So will this be a 300 Ferocity trait (30 points) (so that’s 20% crit damage)

Or is it going to be still crit damage? (still 30% crit damage)

This is what I would like to know, because right now I (all zerker people) will lose so much crit damage..

ofc its QQ about condi becease this zerker nerf is a indirect buff to condi builds.

I lose 25% crit damage (on full trait its -30% crit damage) so yeah that’s HUGE!

Why even care about crit damage If you can do so much more with condi.. and you can even build defensive also.!

10% attack speed.. lol you wont even notice the difference.

Jski.6180:

Fenrir.3609:

Jski.6180:

Can i have your gold? Crit dmg was too much this will not comply fix it but its a good start.

A good start for what exactly, having cheesy condi bunkers everywhere?

In what setting? (mind you the main post that from is from an “I quit” post so i responded in kind.) Spvp is not changing wvw already was like that so still no changes and pve never had that it would be a nice chose for ppl to try out though i do not think it will work all that well.

do you really believe this doesn’t affect wvw also? where all zerkers builds build around full damage and zero defensive stats losing 30% crit damage is not a big deal?

REally??

where you can still build around with a simple dire stat combo going FULL defensive and still doing insane damage!

-30% crit damage is huge!

kitten this game!! I lose 25% crit damage!!

on full set I lose 30% crit damage!

also they deleted my topic, thanx Anet!

Thanx for letting us all run lame condi spam builds!

I am done with this game..

it takes me a year to build a full ascended zerker class (with everything)

And they nerfed it so HARD!!! 15ferocity = 1% crit damage LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Great!

now I lose 25% crit damage!!1

25!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

just lol at this game turning more and more into a lame condi spam game.

they are utility skills… if a warrior use 3 stances together I am just happy to see that..

just kite around for 9sec in total and he’s a free kill.

hate the rest of your ideas

You cant even defend something..

If you try you have to stand on the edge of the wall to even hit someone, at that point you get bombed to dead.

Massive AOE on walls pretends you from even getting that close and when you stay too far you cant do any damage.

phaeris.7604:

Exactly.

If you have high armour and high hps with the healing and survivability afforded by the signet and stances you’re ranged capabilities should be awful.

Those arguments are really bad…
if you spec for range you should do fine even on warrior, its nonsense what you say.
And what most people keep telling is we don’t need a damage buff on this skill, just a delay fix.. they can even bring down some damage if it needs too.. but the afterdelay is horrible on this skill.

Dagins.5163:

It has already 2x projectile, and with one bugged trait it gives both of them 100% chance to trigger combo fields plus range increase. How is this bad?

? That doesnt make it twice more damage, only both arrows does decent damage but on long casttime, its aftercast is what makes it bad. It holds you for using any other skill because the aftercast on #1 is kitten skow, i rather have less damage with shorter aftercast so you can react fastet if you need to fire a blindshot.. Now you wait for 1sec before you can even use an other skill, so your often too late.

And btw that bugged trait alsi reduced its total damage from #1 and you also mentioned it >> its a bugged trait so why even bring that here

why is abyss on all light (cloth) armor pure black and on these 2 cloth parts it turns gray.

And the head part (heavy armor) is much more lighter compared to chest heavy or any other heavy part.

Been runing this build for almost a year now..
And i still like it, i did first 0/30/20/0/20 buy for some more damage i run 0/30/25/0/15 now..

Furious is very good in this build because both weapons can benefit from it + high crit..

Btw i rather run with Oppertunist instead of blademaster, thats because i dropped signet master for 25%speed, with that its just so easy to stick around with sword

And yes i run with lyssa but also 3xstances.. So yeah i havr 60sec lyssa.. But i dont really feel much difference.

Signet of dolyak looks nice but most of the time you dont benefit from the passive and you need signet master with that.

Runninh this also in wvw its a really nice and balanced build

Gaile Gray.6029:

nicknamenick.2437:

how/where can I see my ticket number? :-P (its not about this problem btw) but couldn’t find the number after you reported a bug in game

Reporting in the game does not open a support ticket. It simply sends a message about a bug to the team, and no response is possible nor is it possible for the team to investigate individual issues such as this via a in-game bug report. (To see the difference, consider: This is happening to your account. A map glitch would happen to everyone player. So the latter would be fine for an in-game report, but something that’s impacting your account needs a ticket. You see?)

To submit an individual ticket — which is required in a case of this nature, or anything related to your individual account — please click “Support” at the top of this page, then “Submit a request” to start the submission process. Please note there are two drop-down areas that must be completed, and space for you to describe your issue.

Upon submission of a ticket, you will receive a response that contains your six-digit ticket number.

Aah ok thankyou! ( cool my first Dev reply! :-P )

this looks kinda real… not that bad btw!

now I will use shield master over dogged march :-) overall I think they are good nerfs/buffs.. kinda agree with rush cooldown also.. but I think they could still do something about the hitting part

Not sure about bulls.. dunno why they changed that, but still I am happy with this!

how/where can I see my ticket number? :-P (its not about this problem btw) but couldn’t find the number after you reported a bug in game

ShroomOneUp.6913:

still rboken don´t care for charr atm. charrs palyers get a charr cultural for now.

WoW! WHAT?

First: heavy armor Charr players ONLY have cultural that fits well.. and even cultural gets some weird clipping/shaping problems.

Second: every armor set is made on human model and also humans get there cutural armor also.. and you dont care about Charr? lol very hard to say…

You must be joking if you think Charr players like to use Tier 3 from start of this game since…. well ever i think.

Where humans alsways get so much choice about armor and some only have very MINOR clipping problems where as a charr player i dont even bother anymore because we have so many..

I agree they should make them nice for both, but saying i dont care about Charr because they have cultural (and nothing more) is very bad

Travlane.5948:

scabrous.7835:

Going to leave this here…
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIEQNAseSjkOtwBPGPMxBE0DNsK4iThxT9wO2w4A-j0CBYfCiEEg0yQkFA5mKrZnCiVNFRjVbDT5SQW7KpGcASBY1WA-w

Look at the stats of that spec (change to exotics if you wish to, but it won’t change much). Huge HP pool, remarkable amount of toughness, high power, crit% and critdmg. Now what it can achieve: AoE CC on relatively short CDs, blocks, passive regen, good cond cleanse, gap closers/opener, high DPS with hammer and burst potential with Final Thrust. You don’t have range dmg but that’s where infamous HamBow shines, doesn’kitten

I don’t want warrior to be hard nerfed but adjusted. Shatter mesmer, D/P trickery thief are great examples of high risk/high reward specs. You need to know your opponents and act accordingly to their actions, not just mash buttons. Warrior is just too EZ, imo.

TLDR; You can build a warrior in such a way that it has not a single weaknesss while still being plain sailing to play effectively.

basically my same point! well said bro!

Here is an example of someone thinking stats means all.

Introp.8465:

Here, for comparison thief build, since you all like to compare warrior to NOTHING
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQNAV4alYmaP3cS6E/5EBnCnmUvHkdshtTBXpKA-TsAg0CnIKSVkrITRyisFN+YFy+DA
You get near unlimited dodges if you wish (bunny hopping), 13 with withdraw and 0.5s upime to next combo ( cooldown to next heal to set initiative and gain vigor)
You get boost steal, with lots of boon and boon ripping
You get lost if invisibility on top of that, 2 stun breakers, team invisibility and poison/smoke shield for team.

stat difference compared to war build ( in spvp, where eveyone is equal on items and no foods)
power – 2839 to 2944
crit chance 43% to 47%
armor – 2180 to 2768
Hp – 16095 to 21662
Boon duration % 20 to 0
crit damage% 20 to 50

So stats are lower, biggest difference is in hp – 5,5k and armor
in return for UNLIMITED evades, high uptime easy accesible stealth on top of that, good condi removal ( only needed vs full condi specs, power onces wont be able to touch you)

To sum up – evey class is UNIQUE
Warrior is easy to pick up and play, other classes has higher learning curves
putting random builds and numbers into mid air proves nothing
Guild wars 2 is about avoiding the damage, not only doing damage

And for the love of jeebus, 4s invulnerability to phys damage every 1 min? just dont hit warrior for 4s, is that too hard? apply conditions, immob, slow him, run around for 4 seconds.

Dont foget to remove 280 toughness on warr because:

100 from trait thats only above 90%..
180 from signet.. And you do want to use it.

warriot is the most stat stacking class in this game and all people is seeying that as OP compared to other classes, but its more a weakness because well most traits and allot of skills just boost stats and not much more to bring unique into a fight

-The gloves get much more details, I think they look much better now

-Chest got some minor changes, not much but i like them both

-Pants did changed something.. not sure what but it looks nice

-Shoulders:
> Before the shoulders didn’t have a fixed/static size, and its model is for human, so this turns to be good on them and all human models (norn etc) except if you move you arm due to walking you would see the shoulders also changed to fit the arms, this issnt realistic because you would see the shoulder get some weird shapes..

Problem is every shoulder that doesn’t have a fixed and static size looks like crap on charr because there model is much different.

Now they made a fixed and static size shoulder so this is a good thing! because now your shoulders are always the same shape even when walking etc..
And charr benefit from this also
(they should do this to more shoulders)

But they do have to check on its result because they are indeed to big on humans.

For Norn and charr they have to do something about the placement of ALL shoulders.
Because static shoulders on them (most on charr) issnt fit well because the left size is always placed much lower compared to the right side. ofc people say this is because the norn and charr doesn’t stand perfect still, that’s right but on allot of shoulders this is way out of shape..

Some examples:

Hammerguard.9834:

If they don’t fix it I need to find a new game…

I’m not trying to be a d**k but Anets been treating charr like sh** since release and for them to carelessly break charr even more is making me so sick inside. Even after the year of complaints about tail clipping they still go out and release the garbage known as zodiac armor. There is no hope.

I have the same feeling.. Everytime a new armor hits gw2 i wonder if it fits for charr.. But ofc always clipping problems or weird shaping/stretching

There are more humans so they just ignore charr, like charr issnt part of the game

ShroomOneUp.6913:

nicknamenick.2437:

ShroomOneUp.6913:

nicknamenick.2437:

Sol Badguy.4517:

Kodan shoulders. There are multiple threads about this issue. It just hit with the new patch so we Humans are feeling the Charr pain.

Those kodan shoulders is a complete different bug on its own, they changed something on that set.

I am talking about the placement difference on left and right side.

Kodan maby doesnt fit right for humans but there is no difference between left and right.

i think even before the update the shoudlers of norn were on different hights because they stand more relaxed. best to see that si the abrbarien armor.

Indeed, and its been since day 1 where the left shoulder always sits lower and closer to the head where you get allot of clipping problems.

This happens on all shoulders for charr and norn.
They could easily fix this and we have so much clipping problems solved at once

i meant that the different hight of shoulders on norn males is intended that they not stand like candle straight but their shoudler are a bit shifted more relaxed

I understand they dont stand static and boring like a human, so the shoulders will never take the same placement when your character keeps moving when staying still.
But there are moments where you character doesnt move at all, maby its not that huge for Norns, but on charr you can see a huge difference between the shoulders.

Race: NORNS / CHARRS
Sex: Female / Male
Class: All

Issue: All shoulders on charrs and norns have the same placement bug.
From the front view you can see the left shoulders always sits lower and more closer to the head compared to the right shoulders.

This is for all shoulders.

If you fix the left shoulder placement on Charr and Norn model you would fix ALLOT of clipping problems at once.

This bug is there as long as i can remember

ShroomOneUp.6913:

nicknamenick.2437:

Sol Badguy.4517:

Kodan shoulders. There are multiple threads about this issue. It just hit with the new patch so we Humans are feeling the Charr pain.

Those kodan shoulders is a complete different bug on its own, they changed something on that set.

I am talking about the placement difference on left and right side.

Kodan maby doesnt fit right for humans but there is no difference between left and right.

i think even before the update the shoudlers of norn were on different hights because they stand more relaxed. best to see that si the abrbarien armor.

Indeed, and its been since day 1 where the left shoulder always sits lower and closer to the head where you get allot of clipping problems.

This happens on all shoulders for charr and norn.
They could easily fix this and we have so much clipping problems solved at once

Hammerguard.9834:

nicknamenick.2437:

they fixed it for charr, give charr a armor set also :-) got tired of tier 3..

What the hell is your problem? They didn’t fix anything. They bugged the armor unintentionally and they need to revert it back. It looks horrible.

This isn’t “fixed”. It was never even broken.

Aah your talking about the coat, yes thats kittened indeed.
about the shoulder, they made it a solid static size now.. So that does fits much better on charr, because before the shoulder get some weird shapes.

About the left shoulders clipping in armor is something i made a topic about also. Because all shoulders on charr and norn have this bug where the left shoulder sits lower and closer to the head.

that problem is since day 1 and still not fixed for all shoulders om charr and norn.

they made the shoulder a static size, so now it look way better on charr. so its. a fix for 1 race atleast.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Shoulders-bugs-for-all-classes-except-humans/first#post3662452

This is a huge clipping/bug for all Norns that can be fixed very easy for all shoulders

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Shoulders-bugs-for-all-classes-except-humans/first#post3662452

This is a huge clipping/bug for all charrs that can be fixed very easy for all shoulders

Sol Badguy.4517:

Kodan shoulders. There are multiple threads about this issue. It just hit with the new patch so we Humans are feeling the Charr pain.

Those kodan shoulders is a complete different bug on its own, they changed something on that set.

I am talking about the placement difference on left and right side.

Kodan maby doesnt fit right for humans but there is no difference between left and right.

Sol Badguy.4517:

It’s an issue with humans also, more now than before with the new changes to some of the armor. Hopefully if we raise enough hell (respectfully of course) we can get a response to this issue.

Can you show many any shoulder on human with this? because I checked them from PVP_locked and didn’t saw any shoulder with the same problem on Charr and Norn

I have checked ALL shoulders on Charr and they all have this problem.

If they can fix this it would solve ALLOT of clipping problems for Charr..

Checking Norn also, because it seems they all have this also.

I checked some on human and didn’t saw this problem yet.

How come Anet doesn’t see this?

Atleast on Norn and Charr

The left shoulder (from front view) is always placed lower compared to the right shoulder…

This is for EVERY shoulder on Charr and Norn atleast..

Pls fix this, if you ask me its the right side that always looks the best (front view)
The left side also got the most clipping problems due to this

Well there is a bug on this skill.. when used from stealth the other wont see the whirlwind animation.. this is what bothers me most