Guild Wars 2

I agree 100%.

Please move the electric wyvern & tiger pets to places that aren’t dependent upon an event chain being completed.

I think it shouldn’t be locked behind a 2 hour event chain that might or might not succeed.

But that’s just me.

This. Agreed 100%.

PSA – It pays to read patch notes before posting.

The difficulty in HoT is EXACTLY where it should be.

Please don’t listen to people like the OP.

Ok, maybe ‘bad design’ wasn’t the phrase I was looking for.

Let’s go with “bad idea”.

If I remember right, swiftness is 33% movement speed buff.

Natural Stride is also 33%.

And I don’t think it stacks with Signet of the Hunt.

Somebody correct me if I’m wrong.

Irenio -

First, thank you for the OOC fix to AF.

But.

Could you please move the electric wyvern & tiger pets to more accessible locations?

Gating them behind an event chain that can take 2 hours & may or may not succeed is bad design.

I don’t mind pets being hard to find.

I do mind them being locked behind content.

And ours is the only class this affects.

Yes, I agree 100%

Having to go through a 2 hour event chain JUST for a pet is a bit on the ridiculous side.

So both the tiger & electric wyvern are gated behind that 2 hour event chain.

Lovely.

While I appreciate that he fixed AF decay out of combat, I’ll be REALLY pleased if he can adjust AF gain off of weapons besides staff.

And reverse the Smokescale change.

I really don’t see why it can’t be made to function like death shroud.

At this point, I’ll be happy with ANYthing (besides spamming staff 1) reliably generating AF at a decent rate.

I don’t mind them being difficult to find.

I do mind them being locked behind a 2 hour world event chain.

Yes please.

A mini-herd of 3 pocket raptors.

Please reverse this change.

It makes no sense.

Irenio CalmonHuang.2048:

Hey all,

I’m looking into the combat degen resulting in too heavy a gating of Celestial Avatar in PvE situations; from what I saw over the weekend it seemed overly restrictive in open world battles. If this continues it then the degeneration when out of combat is likely to be removed.

Yes, please remove the degen.

Also, can we get the Smokescale’s F2 swapped back to the smoke field?

Methal.9045:

Sina.9208:

Alright, so I succeeded in killing the dragon. But in the time available could not find my way to the hero point .. (9 minutes) Someone suggested that without ley line gliding it won’t be possible..

you’ll probably need full gliding, and 9 billion more xp worth of crap to do it.

stock up on XP potions and go find yourself a good botting program and AFK the zone….yes there are thousands doing this already. Followed a pack of 5 bots around last night for nearly an hour.

That’s a good way to get your account banned.

And yes, they’ll find/ban those bots.

I do disagree with gating some of our pets behind zone events.

Update – 10/28/2015

Only need 8 candy corn cobs now! Thank you to everyone who has helped so far!

And let me know what I can help you with.

Our next specialization will be the Remover.

Upon login, it deletes all rangers on your account.

They’ve already removed our elite spec. Why not the sounds, too?

Just make it a clean sweep & delete us altogether.

Kaiyanwan.8521:

It is just bait and switch, I am surprised that people are surprised.

1) Druid was not ready for release nor have the pets been.
2) BWE3 druid version was a fake version to make the druid appealing so that rangers would buy the expansion. New pets were overpowered and actually useful.
3) After release, nerf everything to the ground, because people got the expansion out of hype already.

This has happened a hundred times before in MMO releases. ANet just adapted to the common standards.

Logic fail. If that’s the case, then why was Ranger the only class that this happened to?

And how does only doing it to one class benefit them?

Wuselknusel.4082:

We have now our very own dev, so I’m positive, especially since HoT just launched and they need to keep track of the balance, that this thread will be read by the devs.

……bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

No.

Calling it now – The next nerf will be to that 95% damage reduction pets currently have when not directly targeted.

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

F2 needs to be a smokefield -.-

Do you even play your game devs?

Seriously who came up with this?!

Who do you think?

Roy.

Panda – Really not trying to troll here…. but do you honestly think they’ll answer us?

Do they ever?

Jim Hunter.6821:

For an immediate response make sure to post it in the PvP forum. Rangers nerfs that are requested there usually occur in less than 48 hours.

It’s true.

Did some testing.

Smokescale will drop it’s smoke field as soon as it’s off cooldown. And almost every time as it’s opening attack. What good is this to anyone in any game mode?

Oh wait, it ISN’T.

Working as intended.

Typical.

Ranger is the only class that gets IMMEDIATE attention EVERY time we get something good/useful. Druid in BWE3 was very close to awesome. Just needed some tweaking as others have said.

HoT launches and it’s gutted.

Smokescale’s original F2 gave us a variety of ways to be useful in pve/pvp/wvw.

Nerfed/swapped 24 hours later.

And let’s not talk about the WHaO fiasco.

But they’re not reading any of this, or caring if they do.

So I digress.

No disrespect intended here, but they’re not listening & you know it.

Unholy Pillager.3791:

Gaile Gray.6029:

Kitty.1502:

Gail why do the devs dislike ranger? Is there a way we can get a dev to have more interaction with the community so that we can get this class fixed?

Kitty — you can’t believe that! If there’s a dev who provably “hates” Rangers, I’ll hunt him down and TP his desk! I’ll put Honey Nut Cheerios in his burrito! I’ll wreak havoc every way from Sunday!

I have talked to Irenio a lot, and I’ll continue to talk to him. And I’ll talk to, wave my hands in the air, and natter with any other dev who wants to get the feedback of a not-very-good-but-absolutely-passionate Ranger.

I’m sorry to dredge this up like this, but I can’t help but comment on it. I want to believe this. The problem is that the Druid, in its HoT launch state, is a crushing disappointment. I have yet to be able to use the Celestial Avatar Form even twice during a single PvP match. Not only is the Druid’s performance far below its BWE3 level (which was already far below such heavy hitters as the Reaper, Chronomancer, and Herald), our best new pet is being gutted. Not nerfed, gutted. 50% damage reduction is bad, too heavy handed in fact, but I can see the point. Removing our control of its smoke field is appalling. That is already one of the major issues with the ranger: we have little control over our own fields, finishers, and cc. All of this came without a discussion, and without an explanation. Not to sound like a broken record, but Roy keeps his Revenant players appraised of changes to the profession, and has ensured that the profession itself is strong (overpowered, if we’re being frank). Meanwhile, the Druid’s entire mechanic has become all but useless in 95% of the game, and is both nearly inaccessible and underperforming (due to the lack of stability which was brought up repeatedly over Beta Weekend) in sPvP.

Basically, we really, really need an explanation and a constructive discussion about how to salvage this train wreck.

This. All of this.

Norrath.5910:

You must be new heart, ANet gets hard over overbuffing ranger with “bugs” then nerfing them to the dirt when people start to enjoy it

Been here since Headstart.

Ranger has been my main.

Yes, I’m used to it. We all are.

And that’s the saddest part.

So…. remind me again why rangers should be excited to play HoT?

No, really. Give me a reason?

While every other class is enjoying a new elite spec, ours is gutted.

And of course, there won’t be any explanation.

There never is.

Kikidori.5916:

I am so happy. Player-owned minions will now take 95% reduced damage and condition duration from nonplayer attacks that do not specifically target them. When the attack specifically targets the minion, then it will deal full damage and condition duration.

This is making pets not useless anymore!

Did you even read the OP?

+1. +1,000,000.

Honestly, at this point, it feels like the CA & Smokescale nerfs were done “Because They Can.”

Saigun.4568:

Irenio CalmonHuang.2048:

• Celestial Avatar Form: Skills that heal have had their base heals reduced by 15-25% and increased their healing coefficients from 100-145%. This should leave base heals solid while really rewarding players who elect to use healing power stats.

This is a lie…

And it’s far from the only one.

It’s changes like this one that really reinforce the belief among ranger players that the class is a joke to the dev team.

And no, they aren’t reading our posts.

Or listening to our suggestions.

They’re just making nonsensical changes for the kitten of it, it would seem.

They don’t.

And they don’t care.

The Smokescale changes are just adding insult to injury on top of what they already did to Druid.

The hits just keep on coming.

Gaile will be along soon… to lock this thread & assure us all that “they’re reading everything & they’re listening.”

If we wanted to play another class, we’d be playing another class.

mistsim.2748:

Zenos Osgorma.2936:

and doing so means you’ll need pet on passive at all times .

do you know how to animation cancel? would this be too difficult for you to learn?

come on you guys, you are turning in to a bunch of divas. 90% of you honestly haven’t a clue about what exactly youre complaining. Eura wanted to use this for his team comp in competitive pvp, and hes basically throwing a fit about it. for the rest if you, it doesn’t matter one bit. youre just getting on board the negativity train, because it’s cool to complain about the ranger. youre getting so caught up in it that youre failing to see what we do have.

ive said everything I needed to say on the smokescale. /exists thread and never comes back.

And what DO we have, exactly?

A gutted elite spec.
A pet that was really good nerfed into the ground.
And nerfs that just seem to keep on coming.

So… tell me… what do we have?

Would YOU spawn if you just got nerfed into the floorboards with no explanation?

I’d stay hidden too.

Only, I can’t, b/c smokefield isn’t my F2 anymore.

mistsim.2748:

Fluffball.8307:

Anything as strong (or inconvenient) as a smoke field must have better control than might stacking. You can’t just use smoke fields all willy nilly and get good results

Even if they use it most of the time after such and such skill, I’m tired of trying to plan around the AI decisions.

the smoke field is controllable, that’s what I’m telling u guys. it comes right after the Smoke Assault. test it out for yourself. if you don’t want the smoke field there and then, don’t cast Smoke Assault. it’s very easy for people to pick up on this as they start seeing more smokescales in pvp.

No, it isn’t. It’s dependent on the Smokescale’s AI. And for a skill like this, that’s horrible.

Oh, I absolutely agree with the anger.

Ranger is my main class. I have 8 of them.

I, like many, feel that they gutted Druid with the AF decay out of combat.

And now, this change to Smokescale is just insult to injury.

But calling the dev team stupid won’t get us anywhere.

(Not like it matters though, they’re not reading any of this.)

Infraction in 3…. 2….

No sense in raging & posting. (Although, I quite agree with the anger.)

But.

They’re neither reading nor listening.

The F2 skill swap makes zero sense.

None.

mistsim.2748:

personally, id prefer to have the on-demand might stacks and extra burst. I know u wanted the smoke field for your opener, but try to see the bright side – good for might-stacking (theyre practically giving us easy access to 25 stacks), and for on-demand burst. if your smokescale has 25 stacks (very easy), he hits for 8k. that’s easy for me to argue though, because I don’t have a team depending on me for the smoke field. I prefer the extra offense over the tactical.

we can still use the smoke tactically when the pet drops it. almost always, he’ll drop it right after u cast Smoke Assault. so it’s still kind of on-demand. again I know ure highly biased because u wanted to have it for your “team’s” opener, but you’ll just have to use the thief. or maybe this change is wrecking your guys’ comp? i feel the change is overall better for the profession.

again, I’m asking the devs (voting) to leave the smokescale as it is now. I will say that you also have to be a little bit more sensitive toward the ranger community. you keep taking things away from people, without buffing other aspecs and fixing our bugs. this is making for a ton of extremely unhappy customers…so just be careful here.

Newsflash. The devs aren’t listening. Or reading.

Or, really, caring.

Unless it concerns a situation where rangers might be effective.

THEN they react.

The damage reduction? Ok, fine.

But swapping the F2 skill?

I’d like to know the reasoning behind that.

Mcrocha.3891:

oshilator.4681:

Substance E.4852:

oshilator.4681:

Thanks for killing our spec on Day One, Roy.

The ranger community thanks you.

Now, can we get Irenio to fix it?

lol the hero worship is real…

What makes you people think it wasn’t Irenio that messed up Druid? He was the one in charge.

Points you towards the massive hammering nerf that was given to WHaO a few weeks ago

Roy.

And unless I’m imagining it, Irenio said he wanted us to keep half the AF we’d built up if we left CF early.

Does today’s change sound like anything he planned?

We do keep half of the AF now. So I guess it does sound like he planned the other changes too?

Until you’re out of combat. Then it quickly evaporates.

Which…..is the crux of the issue.