Guild Wars 2

Verras.5013:

That video has to be the funniest mockery of SF I’ve seen on the forums to date. Sure, it’s a mockery and stuff take it at face value. No need to hate on it, it’s genuinely funny and I enjoyed the text. Made me laugh. Also, very wise choice of music.

Thank you for being a good sport and realizing it’s a joke. Not many other SF people get it most likely. Until now, possibly.

dank.3680:

He also showed great discipline with his 1 skill spam, that is a very complicated skill don’t underestimate it.

Also notice how I drop 2 portals down right on top of each other so when enemies run through it nothing happens because I don’t use any glamour traits. I’m specc’d for WvW not this PvP stuff these 5 man groups are talking about.

I also tried this whole “winning” thing that everyone keeps mentioning and made a video of it for anyone interested. You guys are lucky I don’t care about winning or else you’d all be screwed!

http://youtu.be/KXR82wT3Bnk

Toble, I noticed you posting in the other thread, yet didn’t say anything about me accepting your 1v1 challenge! Hmm…

Well, you should talk to Robert about the fun times we had together!

ARM.3912:

I thought paxa split up when their 5 man lost to ARM solo?

I thought ARM split up and is now just a FEMUR.

Varconi.1804:

osif.8673:

Varconi, now that we are deemed BFFs by brah breh, that cup of tea does sound quite nice!

Earl Grey and blueberry scones sound good?

Perfect. We can reminisce on all of our great past times together as BFFs! It’ll be wonderful!

Varconi, now that we are deemed BFFs by brah breh, that cup of tea does sound quite nice!

breh.5987:

Lmao.. Another classic. Once you’re worked over to state you’re just trolling too. Would make sense if I wasn’t the one to bait you FIRST.. lol, get it?

I think you missed the point. I’m not saying I’m a troll, I’m saying that I like when others respond to me and end up looking dumb. Varconi already pointed it out, you look pretty bad. Good thing you don’t have a sig, that’s one smart move you made before posting.

Silk.8302:

If the score was not a problem and clearly by your videos you are “PWNING NOOBS” in them you would not put forth so much effort to voicing your opinion towards how bad the compitition is because SF moved here, you would simply overlook it because you are getting so many badges and so much exp/karma. However it seems that you are still crying(not NSP as a whole just some individuals) and claiming unfairness. I mean keep at it of course we at PVP know that we are baddies and you don’t really have to tell us that, your 5 man crew can wipe our 20 man groups, we know this, but please make it known that you do this with the entire server which is SF. So others would fear XOXO/PAXA is soooooo superior that we might as well admit loss and just stfu.

You seem to think that I am Jscull or maybe even other people talking score. How cute. I haven’t once said anything about SF being bad competition. Oh hey, another comment made at me about crying when you’re far angrier at this than I am, as I haven’t been a part of this discussion until now really. You guys have finally included me, yay!

osif.8673:

. I’m glad that you found people that you like to play with and are having fun, no matter what style of play you are doing.

There’s my opinion for you, which I responded to one of your guildies, actually. It’s funny how angry people just group every individual into the same category.

Poet.3098:

That’s a silly idea; our server is our home. You wouldn’t betray your home/family would you? There is something you guys must realize. WvW is not about even fights/fairness, it is about winning the match of the week. Shockingly enough, we in SF absolutely love winning, and we plan to keep on winning until we encounter foes that actually are our superiors, and if we must battle our way through the tiers, then so be it.

Nope, it’s about fun. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Also, I hear from my sources that X Braveheart X from [MoB] wiped a PAXA 20 man single handed. Very impressive.

Pizz.3698:

PAXA showed up, finally they left the forum and showed their faces. Didnt present anything though, lots of talk, not much to show.

Sorry, don’t remember dying to any [seed] people. Losing to people not in a zerg, even having a good fight with people not in a zerg, usually leaves an impression on us. Your name doesn’t ring any bell.

ARM.3912:

I don’t understand why confusion has been allowed to go on as it is for so long. Clearly ignorance on the part of the devs.

Because adding a PvP “fix” to it will break a lot more than it will fix. I’m sure they know that it is a bit over the top right now in WvW, but they don’t want to go implementing a hot fix because of people who cry and end up making things worse. WoW anyone?

And you losers complained about PAXA vs. Os. Bet all of you wish you had that back now.

bigsal.7061:

Nothing like a “QQ MOAR” post in response to a post that has no tears in it. Some trolls look like normal people, others look like the giant oafs depicted in fairy tales.

All his posts are nothing but tears.. QQ you guys dont play the way we do!
No respect for you because you are farming us but its not the way we want to be farmed…blah blah blah.
You dont like it? Do something about it.
But until you PAXA start to put up some sort of fight instead of letting us farm you with our 3-5 men groups then i suggest just keeping to yourselves because we are all tired of your guilds crying.

We cry just about as much as you tell the truth. Not that often.

Glaeser.8015:

You seriously need help with the upload though, dat squished screen.

I think that’s a youtube preference thing. I’m not sure if I control it but I just changed it so it should fill the whole screen now… at least it does on mine!

Buy us all legendaries so Zelrin will stop farming and actually PvP with us then maybe! =P

Glaeser.8015:

This thread is epic, I can barely keep up with all the postings. I kind of miss the good ol’ days of Os vs PAXA though, way more interesting than zerg this scoreboard that.

No kidding.

A little video over the last couple nights! Fun fights out there! This one is small group battles vs. even-greater numbers and added vent snippets that I found funny. Hope you enjoy it between all the bickering here!

http://youtu.be/KGLNPg-0JPE

Updated with a new video of some group play and a little better editing! -_-

D W.5179:

Wow, what the heck is wrong with some of you?
Somebody from [PvP] posted a video where he was clicking skills and people are making fun of him for it? Why? It’s a game. [PvP] is a casual guild full of casual players. Some of us have a gaming background and know why it’s better to use keybinds over clicking and some of us don’t. We are all striving to get better at all times. We have never, and will never kick anybody or not allow somebody in, based on their in-game skill. That’s not what we are about.

EDIT: I should mention that this player has asked us why it’s better to use keybinds over clicking and we gave him some reasons. If he changes his play style, it will likely help his game after the learning curve, and if he doesn’t, we will love him just the same.

[PvP] is a guild that enjoys each others company in TS and like to do the best we can in the battlefield. We are not elitists and I for one don’t pretend to be. Like I said, our requirements to be in [PvP] don’t have a single thing to do with skill. We’ve only ever kicked people for bad attitudes and trolling.
The player that posted the video that some of you enjoy picking to pieces is a really nice guy, and I enjoy his company anytime he is with us. We aren’t all setting out to create the super elite guild that can take on the world. Some of us have a competitive gaming background, and some are playing their first MMO ever right now. I’m one of the ones playing my first MMO right now, and I’m sure I have a lot to learn (I come from competitive FPS).
I might be saying more than the guild wants me to here, but here are a few facts about [PvP] guild:
-We have no skill requirement to join.
-We always have a good time together, win or lose.
-We try our best to keep a positive attitude in our player base.
-We are not elitists, and don’t/shouldn’t pretend to be.
-I think we do pretty well on the battlefield considering our diversity (skill, play hours, commitments, etc)

If your like-minded guild would ever like to GvG us, we are down for that, and I would hope that win or lose, neither side would come in here and be idiots about it. If we GvG any group, it’s going to be for the fun of it, not for kitten bragging rights.
You’re guild wants to 5v10 us? No thanks, that’s a lose/lose for us. Take your ego somewhere else, as we are a casual guild and I wouldn’t want to put our members in a place where they feel they NEED to step their game up or move to another guild… that’s just not what [PvP] is about.
We are simply about having a good time together and doing the best we can to stay organized and alive :P We lose some and we win some, but we always have a good time. I don’t want to jeopardize that.

Respectable. I guess people just like to ignore my explanations, even though the comments aren’t directed at me. It seems like PAXA is still being put into people’s insults (King Mad) no matter how many times we explain ourselves of what we are trying to say. People will read what they feel like reading and turn words! Doesn’t matter. I’m glad that you found people that you like to play with and are having fun, no matter what style of play you are doing. I just won’t understand that style.

dank.3680:

Wow , how can you even call this fun? This is what I don’t get, HOW in the world is this playstyle fun and engaging.. You literally 90% of this video sat in one spot either popping Dagger Storm on CD or pressing 1 or 2 on your shortbow. 1 while randomly tabbing enemies, and #2 with just random placement anywhere. There was 5 seconds you ran around in circles pressing 1 with daggers out. I mean, you didn’t even ever bother to cast your heal spell.. You are literally mindlessly spamming 1 or 2 keys with no regard to any situational awareness or even your own well being.. I watched you go down 3 times while running around pressing 1 with your heal ready to use and not bothering to use it..

JUST WOW…… And you guys wonder why people are saying you have no skill? LOL please keep posting more vids of how bads play and think they are superior just because their numbers carry them..

I honestly don’t even know what to think after watching this, if this was me, I would have gotten so bored and stopped playing this game after 2 days…

I was thinking yesterday Silk could be the greatest troll ever and is posting these videos of his guildies purposefully acting bad by just spamming 1 and stuff. That would be genius. But unfortunately zergers do play this way. But props to the pvp guild if they are trolling the bajesus out of everyone.

Shademehr.1397:

osif.8673:

Jscull.2514:

After further review, the call on the field stands…….NSP and HoD can now use the Norn Pink Guardian from PvP’s video as a full depiction of what SF teams will bring to the battlefield.
1. In a 10 minute fight switching to a second set of weapons never
2. Spamming 1 (we all knew that anyways)
3. Using buffs like (Empower) with one enemy left in a battle for the first time
4. Putting wall of reflection behind the front line of their team
5. Clicking on their abilities (with their mouse)
6. Spamming 1 (we all knew that anyways)
7. Forum explanations about how SF "works together and now has learned new skills as a server implemented by all on the battlefield
8. Finally, posting a video of 20 rolling maybe 10? Portal bombing and wiping half their own force, and the infamous “let’s all have fun” tag thrown out for everyone’s enjoyment.

SF has used a full time out with the challenge, 1st and 10 PAXA. (WHISTLE)

You forgot:

9. Spamming 1

Does it matter what their tactics are when they’re still winning.

I was making a joke at my friend’s redundancy. But to answer your question I would need to ask for more information on your vague term of “winning” here.

bigsal.7061:

Awww, poor little jskull, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYNjL9_rCJc keep em flowing…..nom nom nom. Your tears feed the beast.

Nothing like a “QQ MOAR” post in response to a post that has no tears in it. Some trolls look like normal people, others look like the giant oafs depicted in fairy tales.

Silk.8302:

I wish I could post something more than neutral, I recently posted something along the lines of lets not blame a server as a whole for actions of some and got moderated. However PVP guild will not stoop the level of anyone that fully understands the situation but yet still comes on these forums to make fun of others.

I mean look mostly pvp guild are adults who understand this is a game, why do we play it?, to have fun. That is all, I didn’t even know that there could be this much hate, lol hell I was shocked at the person from PAXA hating on my buddy’s video WOW that was something.

It just goes to show when you are raged you do not give 2 kittens about what you are saying.

Alas thats what human beings do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93Xn9GwbhjE

sorry there is no clicking there for you to comment on that point atleast. =)

You really don’t help your server’s argument by posting these videos in a thread where there are multiple people saying SF skilless zergs and are just winning by sheer numbers.

We don’t have any problem with what you are doing to have fun in the game, as just about everyone has stated multiple times. If you are casual (like you say) and log on after work to get some easy kills and PvD, and that’s fun to you, by all means you are more than right to do it. But you’re killing everyone’s argument who are trying to defend the skill of the zerg by posting these videos. Who knows? That thief could be the best thief ever. But there is no reason in the zerg to do anything other than spam 1 on the short bow with the occasional 2 and elite. I don’t see how that can feel “epic” like people are trying to describe it. That’s just a point of view I know we’ll agree to disagree on.

It doesn’t seem like SF players are gloating any more about their zergs, which is the reason why I comment on zerging, as it doesn’t merit any sort of gloating whatsoever.

bigsal.7061:

AWW QQ little jscull.
Your being farmed and now your feelings are hurt. Its not by superior numbers that thats happening to you its because your skill level isnt where it needs to be to puy up any type of real fight.
The 2 t8 servers gave more fight than you guys. My guild LoD runs 3-5 man roaming groups non stop and for the last 2 days have farmed PAXA with somewhat ease with usually one or 2 less peeps.
You guys are like the kids that play wiffleball all day and then complain real baseball sucks because its above your skill lvl and you suck at it.
Im pretty sure ONLY little 5 man fights is not what anet had in mind for WvW try spvp.
If thats not for you then maybe this game isnt for you. Keep up the QQ though, we feed on your tears.

The lies that come out of your mouth make me smile.

Jscull.2514:

After further review, the call on the field stands…….NSP and HoD can now use the Norn Pink Guardian from PvP’s video as a full depiction of what SF teams will bring to the battlefield.
1. In a 10 minute fight switching to a second set of weapons never
2. Spamming 1 (we all knew that anyways)
3. Using buffs like (Empower) with one enemy left in a battle for the first time
4. Putting wall of reflection behind the front line of their team
5. Clicking on their abilities (with their mouse)
6. Spamming 1 (we all knew that anyways)
7. Forum explanations about how SF "works together and now has learned new skills as a server implemented by all on the battlefield
8. Finally, posting a video of 20 rolling maybe 10? Portal bombing and wiping half their own force, and the infamous “let’s all have fun” tag thrown out for everyone’s enjoyment.

SF has used a full time out with the challenge, 1st and 10 PAXA. (WHISTLE)

You forgot:

9. Spamming 1

King Amadaeus.8619:

PAXA was going to join an intramural flag football league, but after complaining the other team used all 11 players isntead of the PAXA-approved 5, “threw the ball way too much”, and kept score…They decided to play GW2 instead.

Nah, intramural flag football you win something if you get 1st place. A prize. Terrible analogy.

I ran a similar build to wookie’s when I first started playing with a great sword and sword/pistol. Don’t lose 1v1s very often, but to me the play got boring pretty fast. I prefer a more active build. No doubt a strong dueling build though.

ChesterWing.5321:

so far GT and kom and paxa are strong on HoD. IDK about vlk yet but im saving judgment.

paxa is basically a swarm of bumble bees protecting their honey and queen bee at this point

their honey is zelrin, cuz he smooth and sticky to all you but when I come around he becomes S*** cause i eat him all up

their queen bee is also zelrin, cause all the rest of them do dancu around him

rhaeggar is aunt jamaica cause he like being on top of wafflez
sarsbear is uncle jacob rice packages cause when you kittenim up he feeds a family of 3 poor asian ride paddy workers

edit- apparently C O O. K H.im is censored. makes as much sense as this post

Zelrin is indeed the honey and the queen bee, he gives the best bjs for legendaries.

D W.5179:

Jscull.2514:

Yes you’re correct in knowing that my guys and I don’t feel taking a tower with 20+ people is deserving of credit. And because in a half hour it will be retaken don’t feel that having taken it in the first place is worth a single thing. Before going into just bashing, re-read what I wrote and please come up with answers to my question marks. “What are you gaining by winning?” “what has (winning) actually earned any of you?” “what actual outcome does the scoreboard reflect?”

I know this isn’t directed at me, but I’ll give this one a shot.

“What are you gaining by winning?”
Nothing more than some server ranking in a game.

“what has (winning) actually earned any of you?”
Ironically (because of the above answer), NOT server ranking LOL.

“what actual outcome does the scoreboard reflect?”
Usually active server WvW population.

Well this begs a fourth question.
Why play then?
Because win or lose, it’s a kitten fun game!

I think those answers are fitting

Lanny.6987:

Btw, any Asura can put down 6 stacks of confusion for 5s but only every 45 seconds and you have to lose out on 2 utility slots to do it.

Engis only have single-target Prybar (yes Static Shot but it’s 2×3s and Confusion Bomb but I can’t remember the last time I stood on one of those) with 5×5s confusion which only gets interesting and painful because of Magnet. If Prybar got nerfed I think Engi’s would be sad that their fun had ended but I don’t believe folks would think a core mechanic of the Engineer had been pulled.

In your vid you were laying 7 and 8 stacks of confusion on folks. I think limiting the number of stacks that could be active would very much hurt Confusion Mesmers as well and more than Engi’s who don’t build around it. Mesmers are the only class that can mass-confuse but you have to trait for it and it’s really only effective in the zerg. And yeah… traiting for the zerg and then can hurt when zerging. Surprise.

Confusion is too powerful at the higher condition damage levels. I wonder if allowing blocks, heals, and dodges without damage would make it less so. In your vid you nailed that Engi in vale when they swapped kits. Wha? I know it’s probably not a surprise but ANet did not think through the implications of letting confusion kick in for every ability use. I hope they clean up that aspect of confusion first (if their code allows it) and see how it goes before they reach for stronger medicine.

Hi Lanny,

Yeah, I sometimes wish I had made my mesmer an ausra. Would be fun to play around with their racials. I personally don’t think A-Net will be making any sort of changes to confusion any time soon just because how much time it would consume for them and it would make many people angry on top of that.

When I’m running solo, I don’t use food at all. the 40% condition duration from pizza is really nice and I can get consistent stacks of 13-15ish confusion sticking on a target for a few seconds. When I’m running solo, if I do get that high of stacks it’s usually only for ~one second. When I run into someone using the -40% condition duration on them and I don’t have any food up, it can make life hell, haha.

Kardiamond.6952:

With 100% condition duration, you can achieve a nearly perma 5 stack of confusion on a single target using only prybar. If you also use bomb kit, you can achieve easy perma 5 stack of confusion.

Oh, certainly! I was speaking in generalizations though as a naked class. Not everyone runs that high condi duration! At least, I don’t think haha.

Toble.2968:

Paxa legitimately hates the way they made WvW so there is no talking to them about the subject without someone crying.

Also, Paxa will never cry for 1v1s unfortunately. They have refused me the luxury of 1v1ing anyone in their guild.

No way, shots at PAXA from Toble?! That’s a first!
You don’t ever actually read any of our posts, so it’s impossible to speak to you. If you actually took the time to read any posts instead of reading what you want to read from us, you’ll notice that we’re bashing the people gloating about their zerg. Not zerging itself. But you can’t see that.

And lol @ the 1v1 comment. I’ve offered so many 1v1s in the past when people trash talk us and then challenge us to a 1v1 after saying we’re afraid to. Some have taken the offers, some haven’t. I never cry for 1v1s because it’s not important to me at all. But if you have ever asked me for a 1v1, I will be glad to give it to you. Refusing to 1v1 you is flat out just another one of your many lies about us.

Hey Kard,

I have mixed feelings about the strength of confusion but…
Short answer to your question; I feel it is a bit too strong.

Longer answer – Confusion is really only accessible by two classes, engies and mesmers. I feel like they utilize confusion in different ways. To clarify, both use confusion as burst damage, but the way it is applied in the styles of play are very different. Engies’ abilities that cause confusion all have a decent/high amount of stacks applied on successful hit, but in turn will eventually wear off before reapplied.

Mesmer confusion, while I still feel it is generally used for burst, can have confusion up on a target/tightly nit group the whole duration of the fight. In comparison to an engineer, a mesmer’s confusion is applied in smaller, but more frequent dosses, and have more abilities that cause confusion.

Mesmers rely on their confusion for their damage, as our conditions are far too random and rather weak to be a reliable source of damage. Vulnerability on staff #1 has kitten me off more than once when it procs three times in a row instead of a burn or bleed. I am also specc’d and geared for having as much sustained condition damage as possible (earth sigils and illusions bleed on crit). If someone wants to just run by and completely ignore me, it’s extremely easy for them to do so, as my illusions can’t catch up to shatter, poor access to swiftness, and blink is on a longer CD than other class’ weapon mobility even when traited.

Engies have pretty decent access to other forms of conditions to keep pressure on a target/group while their confusion is down from being cleansed or wore off.

Where I’m going with this is that if confusion was to be changed in one way or another, mesmers or engies are going to suffer for it. If the damage of confusion is nerfed like it was in sPvP, condition mesmers won’t be viable in the slightest. If they nerf how many stacks of confusion a single person can apply to keep confusion damage lower as a whole, engies are going to be far more hurt by that.

In conclusion to my rant, (sorry!) yes I do believe that confusion as it is right now is no doubt too strong. Damaging some dodge roll abilities, negating heals with enough stacks… it’s just too punishing. But in order to change it, much more than just confusion would have to be reworked. Even if confusion scaled differently (more damage for a single stack but less damage when more stacks are applied) I think that would cause more problems than fix.

Just my 2 cents

Also, I’ll mention that this is purely from a solo/small group WvW perspective. I still think that phantasm mesmers are the kings for running solo, but confusion is just so fun and so good in a group!

Haha, thanks Nausicca. I’m enjoying fighting you guys though… and the majority of PAXA are poor! lol

King Amadaeus.8619:

I was also wondering why I never saw PAXA before…this would explain it since I was looking at the wrong server….

More likely you spend the majority of your time in EB.

Malchior.5042:

And you are doing it in the guise of a NSP server. Change your signature (and have your guildmates change theirs) and you can troll/bait/define skill to SF all you want.

But you are not a NSP server

I don’t care what my guildie’s signature says, but I haven’t had NSP on my signature this entire thread. Reading is fundamental.

Malchior.5042:

Just a heads up for anyone who wants to take Jscull’s or osif’s bait…

Any PAXA you see in this thread is on Henge of Denravi. Some of them just seem either too lazy or unaware that NSP still exists in their signature. (Unless they randomly transferred back again.)

I know one thing for sure, If PAXA continues to post under the guise of an NSP guild in an attempt to start flame wars and close threads, I’ll start making reports.

Also, any of those other troll baits/rants seen throughout this thread and the previous. If they don’t have a guild in their signature, then they either

1. Don’t have a reputable guild
2. Can’t represent said reputable guild because talking kitten would hurt the guild’s reputation or…
3. Are just a random who plays for the good fight and likes boasting of his/her accomplishments.

Have a nice day everyone, and keep up the good fight in the Mists!

Oh man, the things I would say to this…. There is no bait, just trying to make sure that those who are gloating about spamming #1 with 20+ other people know that it doesn’t equate to any sort of skill.

btw:

Malchior.5042:

I know one thing for sure, If PAXA continues to post under the guise of an NSP guild in an attempt to start flame wars and close threads, I’ll start making reports.

Looks like a threat. I don’t think that’s welcomed on these forums…

Alchemist.3692:

Jscull.2514:

Olive.4928:

Jscull.2514:

Zen.1965:

-.-

Seriously… Like I’m not directing this to anyone or any server in particular. Seriously, we get our match up thread closed and we’re only in the 3rd kitten day of it? Wtf guys?

Hopefully we can keep this one somewhat civil -.-

As for SF’s golem march through EB it was 29 alphas and 1 omega. Needed the omega to command them all, it just doesn’t make any sense otherwise.

@Rob, sneaky kittens… I must’ve logged out just before you guys pulled that golem maneuver on our BL. Was hoping the east coast crew would take care of anything like that. GJ. All keeps… we had that upgraded well…. You break my heart man <\3. Well played.

The problem is we are here for different levels of fun. SF seems to only know how to have fun with 40 + people around each other.

HoD has it’s 20 manners, as well as NSP. (which i still find equally annoying)

There are ALSO a good number of people who only need 1-10 around them to have their fun, and SF doesn’t have any of those. That’s why the thread got closed because other than those Osif pointed out, the forum posters would like to enjoy more skill-full combat in open world pvp. And you all simply do not provide anything close. This isn’t trolling, it’s stating facts man.

20 man? This crying again? No on cares how many people you have on each of their side. We literally pushed your zerg out that was twice the amount of what we had, out of SM. If that’s your idea of fun, then be my guest. But honestly quit bringing more excuses about numbers and wanting to run around with 20 tarts. You guys are getting outplayed at every level and instead of finding another strategic move to counter it, all you guys do is run to the forums and cry again. Like others have said before me, whether theyre from SF or not, if you want random small groups running around go find one on LFG (lols) or something. Or better yet PvP. But don’t expect we’ll stoop down to your levels of fun, just because we’re enjoying ours. That’s nice that you guys have escort guilds running around doing this, but if you guys are really a WvW lover like a majority of us are, then running to the forums and finding excuses should be the last thing on your mind. So, to tl:dr this, NO THANKS!

Buddy, we run 5 guys every night….I think even running with 20 takes no skill. Any player can spam #1 and win 80-90% of their fights…..that shouldn’t be allowed. And you run twice that!

Skill this Skill that…hands down real good players just don’t run in zergs. That is a fact. From the beginning of pvp the majority of good players find ways to win outside of having 20+ around them. So go on and on about “outplaying” everyone…you out number everyone, use the correct terminology.

All this crying… we’ve been out numbered many times.. are you actually going to claim that NSP or HoD hasn’t had 20+ zergs? I remember the first night in our own BL we were outmanned 3 to 1 easily. Don’t play this numbers card… it’s done and over with. You guys have just as much people in your servers as we do. When you guys were winning no one was crying about anything.. now that you’re getting your kitten handed to you cuz our guys got off of that super adventure box now you’re going to whine about it?

I have yet to see either side run 5 man.. and i’ve been playing the game for several hours each day all weekend long. You act like you’ve got some god like ability with your 5 man team. It’s a fact, 5 ppl cannot take a tower or keep if there’s another 5 people guarding it (unless those guys are entirely new to the game). You need a lot more – and you’ve always had a lot more.

Save the “our 5 man grou kitten o amazing, but we’re unfortunately outnumbered” nonsense to yourselves. It seems every one who loses on each tier has the same sob story. Really… if ppl want to play on WvW we can’t just kick them out and say “sorry but if you come in, then there’s a chance the numbers will grow too much and we’ll end up zerging”

Plz, zergs are usually because ppl are not running with their guilds.. which means the “zerg” you get your kitten handed to are a bunch of pugs who are guessing at their own coordination. God forbid you run in to a 10-15 man guild. Then you’ll cry about something else, like maybe we’re exploiting or hacking. You guys are welcome to challenge us one on one.. but even then I’ve seen so many of your guys run back in to spawn and try to attack me from there… while I’m solo because they can’t win without invul on and legendary guards backing them up. You guys don’t have the backbone to finish a fight and you’re talking about skill.

Geez.

Haha, you respond with an argument about points to someone who doesn’t give a flying squirrel about “winning” in the sense of being green at reset.

Varconi.1804:

Silk.8302:

I been hearing that some of you think SF is the only one with bigger amounts of players, But I will post some videos of what we go up against, in some cases it may seem to you when you are playing that the zerg is huge but that might be not peak times for oyu, but saying that your server do not have this “big zerg”. Well here is a vid from yesterday. Please lets just be positive and focus on what you can do for your server rather than sit here and start forum wars over nothing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9FIVJKV1rVE

You make a video of a guild zerg going against the entire NSP wvw pop and claim servers have even numbers? Honestly? You are delusional. The vast majority of the time SF has zergs that equal the entire wvw population of all of NSP on each map sometimes multiple zergs that large on 1 map.

Losing to a zerg is cool but the spam jumping on corpses and emoting after running from 2v1 and 3v1 fights to a zerg which is happening nonstop is a joke. I am done with WvW for now let SF pvdoor even more if that makes them feel superior.

Dang Varconi, you didn’t even have to make your post about skilled players… this guy just proved you right. A picture is worth a thousand words… in this case a video is worth a million.

Good taste in music though!

Seven.4520:

I’m pretty sure the “casual gamers” aren’t the ones in here complaining that there are large “noob” zergs vs “high skill” small groups. I agree that fun is the most important factor when it comes to WvW. My comment wasn’t about fun or not. It was about Zerg or Non-Zerg play styles being irrelevant to the overall objectives of WvW. Silly comments like “needing a reality check” are just that.

I’m not gonna go and generalize a select few people on SF to represent SF as a whole, but those select few people that think that having a larger population throughout the day = more skilled than the other servers do need a reality check. Or at least back up their smack talk with some walk in a situation that actually shows some semblance of skill.

Seven.4520:

People complain about large groups running around all the time. like SvenskNavi said, it’s a war zone. It’s not a coliseum style fight. That’s like Confederates looking at the Union and saying “Lol, You had more people in your zerg, gg noobs”. It’s about objectives. So long as you maintain and acquire those objectives, It doesn’t matter if you did it with 5 people or 50. Points are points, wins are wins. I think people lost track of this important fact.

I’m pretty sure the inability to field as many people as effectively as SF is known as a personal problem. Whining isn’t going to solve your personal problems.

And no, i’m not SF.

Pretty sure you have it wrong too. WvW is about fun. Many people don’t even care about the points and just play to kill. Hey, if you are a casual gamer and like the mindlessness of a zerg and running over things, all the power to you! Having fun in a video game is important. But the people coming on here to gloat about their zergs when any 9 year old can do what they are doing (and most likely are part of it)… maybe you need a reality check.

No way, another “go to sPvP” comment?! Never heard that one before!

Yeah, not a problem!

Olive.4928:

20 man? This crying again? No on cares how many people you have on each of their side. We literally pushed your zerg out that was twice the amount of what we had, out of SM. If that’s your idea of fun, then be my guest. But honestly quit bringing more excuses about numbers and wanting to run around with 20 tarts. You guys are getting outplayed at every level and instead of finding another strategic move to counter it, all you guys do is run to the forums and cry again. Like others have said before me, whether theyre from SF or not, if you want random small groups running around go find one on LFG (lols) or something. Or better yet PvP. But don’t expect we’ll stoop down to your levels of fun, just because we’re enjoying ours. That’s nice that you guys have escort guilds running around doing this, but if you guys are really a WvW lover like a majority of us are, then running to the forums and finding excuses should be the last thing on your mind. So, to tl:dr this, NO THANKS!

I think you completely misunderstood his post. But I just want to point out:

Olive.4928:

You guys are getting outplayed at every level

It’s absolutely hilarious that you think anything other than numbers wins in these lower tiers. Whichever server has the most players in WvW throughout the day, wins. It’s really not that hard to see. The fact that it is being argued so much is mind boggling. Now I’m not saying that you didn’t have a situation where you outplayed some zerg with yours, but as a whole your statement is ludicrous. Not that I care about points… we find our fun in smaller skilled fights or wiping the mindless zergs.

You’re a perceptive one, you are Pulsecodesgnl. But really, I am impressed by the last thread, in all honesty. King A*mad*aeus, FilthyRat, and others are quite the hilarious e-tough guys. I’d love to see them outside of a zerg sometime… or just see them for that matter in game.

Thanks Grimmson! Yes, I dable with mirror image every now and then but I like the utility of null field more in the majority of situations. Having some (while still pretty dismal) condition removal is nice on top of an added ethereal field to keep chaos armor up helps a ton in outnumbered fights. 1v1s against burst builds, mirror images is pretty sweet to get 15+ stacks of confusion on a target!

I find all this trash talking and gloating about PvD rather pathetic.

Thank you, I’m glad you enjoyed it!