Whining about groups that insist on LoS pulling mobs is a surefire mark of an awful player who thinks you should just mash 1 to win in every group. Considering it’s been the hallmark tactic of pretty much any game with aggro/leash mechanics since like, ever, I don’t see why people have such a hard time accepting it as a strategy.
You can use it if you want, but I will not be impressed when you do it.
The reason why inferior PvE professions such as Engineers, Rangers and Necromancer will forever be inferior is because control role has zero worth.
Cripple/chill/immobilize will never be useful when a group can melee it better. Enemy mobs do not move if both the player and the mob are in melee range.
Knockbacks are counter-productive or worthless. Anyone who uses knockbacks slows the dps down. Bosses are almost immune to the control role and when the time defiant stacks are gone, the final knockback is worthless as boss spams the moves.
Dungeons and Fractals needs to be reworked from the scratch where control role is valuable. When that happens, inferior professions will no longer be inferior.
@Redscope you really should read more carefully before you respond and look foolish, he said his 8 man will NEVER defeat a 50 man…..your mistake and bad response, not his.
Here is a secret to killing a 50 man group with 8 man.
Let say that your 8 man group is very efficient at wiping 10 players at a time. Well, 50 man is really too much for the job. But what if we break the fights down?
Instead of 8 v 50, it can be 8 v 10 then 8 v 10 then 8 v 10 then 8 v 10 and finally 8 v 10. 5 small battles to chip away the 50 man zerg.
Split and divide the zerg. Scatter the zerg.
How can you make it a 8 v 10? Well, that is up for you to decide. Use environmental positioning, Use crowd control, use mobility, or something that I could never think of.
If you can’t split the zerg, then obviously the 50 man zerg is an organized guild.
If you did not include “Don’t cheese or Line of sight any bosses/mobs.” I could probably post several CoE runs that satisfy your challenge. I really do not understand why groups cannot do this to satisfy your rather interesting challenge. If anything it makes some encounters more riskier.
That is the point of a challenge. It is to do something more risky.
I took that away because without it, it makes this challenge too easy with 4 warriors and 1 mesmer.
Don’t cheese or Line of sight any bosses/mobs. what do you mean wit that?
It means that you don’t hide behind a corner of a pillar or wall and dps the cluster of mobs that is stacked together. Mobs stacks together because mobs takes the shortest path.
Rare jewelry’s price will come crashing down faster than the Age of Men if this happens.
Other methods of travel –
-mounts- won’t happen. Maps too small for that.
-Wagons boats etc that’s actually nice and interesting!I think that there are more important things to focus on though.
We already have mounts in the game, The Riding Broom.
I propose a challenge to you coordinated groups.
Here is the challenge:
What you can do:
That is all.
The point of this challenge is to challenge your teamwork beyond than just healing yourself and dps the boss down more. It is clearly for fun and not for profit. I would like to see how tactics would change if there weren’t any healing skills at all.
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I would really like to see Fall traits to be buffed enough to see them used in esports. I would love to see the players make a astounding entrance or an grand escape.
What must be done:
Fall traits should give more mobility to whoever uses it. Opening pathways where players cannot use without it.
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We have solo dungeons.
Mini-dungeons and jumping puzzles.
I would like to /sleep on a bed.
Please sell beds and hammock in the gem shop.
I believe it is in Anvil Rock and Borlis Pass’s best interest to break the alliance.
Here is why:
WvW casuals will have a better time in WvW. Sometimes, it is fun to fight challenging fights. But when adversary are way over the top too powerful, WvW becomes less fun. Casuals will less and less play WvW and play PvE more.
Anvil Rock and Borlis Pass are both good match together. However, neither are good matches against Ehmry Bay even combined.
Every small victory against Ehmry Bay comes with a terrible price. Usually with Ehmry Bay dismantling both Borderlands to pieces. This will devastate the WvW casual and cause them to rage quit.
tl;dr: You guys will have more fun and loot if you guys fight each other instead of being steamrolled to death by Ehmry Bay.
You guys will even have more fun if you transfer to Ehmry Bay.
When a server is 100k point lead, there is very little point for the other server to try harder.
Even if the other server capped the entire map. They will not win anyways. After the few days after reset night, WvW will feel dragged out and boring. There is very little drive to win.
My suggestion:
Keep the same scoring system. After 24 hours, the server with the highest points will gain one win point. The server with the most win points win the weekly match.
Let say at Saturday, Red has 2000 pts, Blue has 1000 pts, Green has 3000 pts. Green gain one win point.
On Sunday, Red has 4000 pts, Blue has 1000 pts, green has 1000 pts. Red gain one win point.
On Monday, Red has 0 pts, Blue has 10,000 pts, green has 0 pts. Blue gain one win point.
Fast forward:
Red has 2 win points, blue has 1 win points, green has 4 win points. Green wins the weekly match.
Next week:
Red and Green both have 3 win points and Blue has 1 win point.
Red has a total of 100,000 pts and Green has a total of 105,000 pts. Green wins the weekly match.
Why?
Everyday is a push towards winning. If the two losing servers are far behind in points, they can push to win tomorrow. It will break the WvW casual’s losing mentality and give them a drive for their server’s success.
If you give any kind of rewards, it will attract bots.
At the release of Guild Wars 2, There were hundreds of bots that uselessly guard yaks for free money and exp. They take up queue.
Skilled small groups have a advantage on a zerg already.
If one player dies, you can rally your downed small roaming party member instantly. If you can’t stomp anyone, then you are terrible at busting zergs.
We get that you guys dont care about rank, thats what we respected. Straight up about the fight. But why be BPs lap dog? If you are going to fight for the sake of fighting then why be used by a group you could (and were) just as easily beat. This is what we don’t get.
C’mon man. You get it just fine.
You are clearly playing dumb, and if I may add very well , in order to get a response.
AR is the defacto smaller server of the 3. If after 10 weeks you haven’t figured this out then you are truly ignorant or just joined WvW.
AR will gladly fight BP 1v1. But as we all know , Ebay can’t help itself and MUST get in its kicks. So what ends up happening? We have BP @ hills and Ebay @ Bay and both poking us @ Garry.
What do we get for our efforts? A bunch of immature kids on the forums putting us down ( you know who you are) in the forums and using lines like ‘bunch of bads’ and ‘dumptster these fools’.
Now I’m a big boy and have grown thick skin so these lame trolls just go unanswered, same for my guild and for the regular WvW in AR. But if you haven’t noticed , AR is a pug/casual server when it comes to WvW. So when the puggies get discouraged ( you know, sorta like what happened to Ebay this weekend) they bail and go do something else.
So this alliance is our effort to bring some life back into AR WvW, ( you know, Tuesday when we had 360ppt) and provide an more enjoyable experience for our puggies.
Do i like this alliance? hell no. I would much rather spend my nights making BP cry and Kalkz rage. But we do what leaders do and swallow our pride and our own self interest and agree to this alliance. Call us lapdogs if you want but this has been a great boon to the WvW community in AR.
Now do I expect you to understand the above, no. The fact that you had to ask shows that your way to immature to grasp the concept. However I do know there are plenty of mature players on Ebay who will understand this and maybe just maybe one will take you aside and explain it to you.
-K
I approve of this alliance and I am a Ehmry player.
Double the hope, double the fall.
In theory, it sounds like it could work. But it doesn’t.
Look how much Borlis Pass and Anvil Rock getting their kitten kicked from the alliance.
I had just about enough of holding points with conquest, as much as I love AB I now loathe this type of pvp.
I prefer GvG.
AB is conquest.
I do want rewards for defending. But, here is a problem.
It will be abused no matter how small the reward.
Say if you make the reward for standing in the keep, 10 copper per 30 minutes.
I just need to create 10 bots and that will give me 1 silver per 30 minutes and make them run around the wall. This is free money right there.
I want the orbs back so i can steal them from ehmry bay and make them scream.
please bring the orbs back lol
Afterwards, Ehmry Bay will take the orb back, liberate Borlis Pass’s orb and liberate Borlis Pass with Ehmry Bay Borderland territory.
I’m not saying. Records show that Ehmry Bay already liberated Anvil Rock and Borlis Pass Borderland multiple times multiple times after Borlis Rock multiple failed pillaging attempts.
Mana/Potions is a old outdated mechanic.
*wastes bag space
*slows combat
*Removes some skill from the game. Player who buys most mana/potions has the advantage.
*Unneeded gold sink!
*opening bag during combat. uses more GUI space.Add new types of team buffs instead.
I will proceed to kill myself now.
Truth hurts, I know.
Join a Guild.
WvW changes a lot when running with guilds.
The amount of Borlis Rock whining astonish me.
Ranger down state is good in many situations, but its not the only good one. Ele’s memsers and theives have much better down states in larger battles because they survive a long time giving plenty of time to rally, whereas ranger down states are atronger in 1v1 and 2v2 fights because their pet can make a real difference there, especially if they are a BM.
False, Rangers are the best in surviving down state.
Get a wolf and a Black moa, you can stop a player from stomping you 4 times. Where as every other profession can stop a stomp for a max of one.
Wrong forum, this is the suggestion forum.
What makes Ranger down state different from the others? The answer: Rangers can use their pet. Their mechanic, pets. Rangers can order pet to attack, use pet abilities, and switch pets.
Warriors cannot use burst skills while downed.
Mesmer cannot shatter skills while downed.
Necromancers cannot go into Death shroud while downed.
Engineers cannot use toolbelt skills while downed.
Thieves cannot use steal or waste initiative while downed.
Guardians cannot use virtues while downed.
Elementalists cannot switch attunements while downed.
Yet, Rangers can use their pet while downed.
Dear BP and AR,
Do unite. I really want more bags and wxp.
My idea for a WvW map:
FoW as the center map.
So you want 40+ skills while the rest of us gets 10 skills?
Congrats Bp[Burn] [dkz], and EB[ORL] [pk] for working together to hit ARBL…… to scared to fight each other i see. You won’t be removing us from the tier that easily. It is nice to see you so scared of us mind.
Who is ORL? I never seen them or heard about them at all.
pk was in AR BL to level alts today. So stop deluding yourself and accept that you are incompetent in keeping upscaled players out of your bl.
ORL is the baddest kittens this side of the Mississippi
And you might not see us much because we do our own thing, we usually run our own groups and try not to follow the zerg,In other words, ORL is smart enough to not be farmed along with the rest of the BP zerg and Logan Thackeray away from real battles. They also like to kill scraps and players wanting to complete map completion.
No wonder why I never heard about ORL.
Killing is part of the game… Your side has done it to us and we have done it to you. Its really not our fault who we run into when we break away from the zergs and do our own thing… If you’re an enemy and we engage you were going to fight regardless if we will win or lose. I’ve never heard of you either so it makes us even…..
Ps good fights with the Ar ALS, Evil, and a few other 10ish Ar men at bridge near heros. props to your victory
I agree that killing is part of the game, that is why I called your guild very smart. No one likes being steamrolled to death. I thought the word “smart” is a positive word. Let your server’s zerg get devoured while you do your own thing. It is a smart strategy, a Logan Thackeray strategy. Avoid fights you can’t win that is Sun Tzu’s level of smart. Even guilds in losing servers has to do whatever they can to survive instead of thriving. This is a compliment.
And you know what? I respect you. I respect you as the baddest kitten of players doing world completion killers.
I don’t blame your guild for not having a major presence when Ehmry dismantled BP BL last night. Mastering a zerg is harder than running away from the zerg.
Congrats Bp[Burn] [dkz], and EB[ORL] [pk] for working together to hit ARBL…… to scared to fight each other i see. You won’t be removing us from the tier that easily. It is nice to see you so scared of us mind.
Who is ORL? I never seen them or heard about them at all.
pk was in AR BL to level alts today. So stop deluding yourself and accept that you are incompetent in keeping upscaled players out of your bl.
ORL is the baddest kittens this side of the Mississippi
And you might not see us much because we do our own thing, we usually run our own groups and try not to follow the zerg,
In other words, ORL is smart enough to not be farmed along with the rest of the BP zerg and Logan Thackeray away from real battles. They also like to kill scraps and players wanting to complete map completion.
No wonder why I never heard about ORL.
I couldn’t agree more. My Mesmer, who is a female human noble, really needs a proper dress (or 2, or 50).
+1
My guardian does too.
Congrats Bp[Burn] [dkz], and EB[ORL] [pk] for working together to hit ARBL…… to scared to fight each other i see. You won’t be removing us from the tier that easily. It is nice to see you so scared of us mind.
Who is ORL? I never seen them or heard about them at all.
pk was in AR BL to level alts today. So stop deluding yourself and accept that you are incompetent in keeping upscaled players out of your bl.
I bought every single Town clothing for my alts. However, I am really sad at the lack of town clothing dresses and skirts.
Please add some so I can put it on my female characters.
Want a private group?
Form up parties and target the leader. It is a great way to identify leader while keeping groups private.
Did you even read OP?
Then there is zero reason for this thread then if he thought about it.
Why is zerging considered a problem? It isn’t a problem and it never is.
If you want to run small group. Do so! You greatly contribute by taking camps.
Nice job Ebay at taking BP’s Hills and Bay.
seriously at least change `daily tournaments matches won`achievement to `daily tournaments matches PLAYED`cuz you cant win tournaments sometimes for 2 hours.
It is possible to win tournaments if you don’t have crappy party members.
Drakes for PvE.
Canine for PvP. The knockdowns and cripple are invaluable.
2. Disagreed. You can already make it a fight opener.
Turn around → Hornet sting → Turn around → Monarch leap.
If this was switched, it will make getting away really clunky.
I have zero problems with the rest of the category getting increased. It has zero effect in making spvp less fun. But, the capture makes daily a huge chore and very intrusive to one’s enjoyment. It encourages bad plays, such as Players stacking up in an undefended node in the beginning of the match. It encourages avoiding fights just so you can check off the daily.
Instead of capture being in daily, just change it to “Daily Wins.” Even, reverting back to the number of capture to three is significantly better.
The technology isn’t there. If they could do true autoloot, they would do it.
However, I don’t like this suggestion.
After a successful battle, there is enjoyment in going through the corpses for loot. It is so satisfying to see bags everywhere. But what if we have the option? I will still be forced to turn auto-loot on. The commander will just go to a battle, win and go to another battle without giving me any time to collect my bags. This will make zerg vs. zerg even more monotonous and boring.
Want a private group?
Form up parties and target the leader. It is a great way to identify leader while keeping groups private.
I believe that chat is enabled.
Did you try the map chat? If so, the host probably disable chat.
No, this is the most ridiculous idea I had ever heard of.
a picture is worth a thousand words…
Love the chat box. Ebay has our keep, we should retaliate by attacking AR. That is some fine logic.
First of all, if BP retaliate on Ehmry Bay, they must really be prepared to face major losses.
Losses = less morale. Less morale = less men. Less men = can’t get kitten done.
Victories = more morale. More morale = more men. More men = can get kitten done. AR is the scrapegoat for BP’s morale.
IMO, this logic is really understandable if you look at it carefully.
I disagree and I am against all suggestions made in this thread .
I was in OP’s shoe when I was pugging with commanders. Then, my guild turned into a serious WvW guild. Now, I use more melee builds than ever before.
There is a huge difference between the two. PuGs and guilds. PuGs are just militia men. Militia wants to play it safe. You can’t get anymore safe than playing with range. WvW guilds are the elite soldiers. It is hard to play melee alone. However, if you have someone next to you meleeing with you, you will survive longer. WvW guilds knows that going melee is much more damaging than staying in range.
Join a serious WvW guild. Join the top WvW guild in your server and you will see WvW in a different light.
Waypoint? Sure it’s a good idea. Level? Nah son, that would just kitten with the whole system.
What system?
A Guild perk: Guild waypoint and upscaling.
Whenever you place a guild waypoint(Cost very little influence) at a existing waypoint, anyone in the guild can travel to that waypoint. A lower level player that traveled their will upscale at that level. Duration of 24 hours.
The purpose of this is to revive explorable zones.
Here’s why:
In my guild, our alt leveling event is in WvW. It is also a karma train where we take every supply camp and un-upgraded tower/keeps. However, the same scene is just too boring.
So, Why not have PvE be the exp/karma train too? There is a problem, not everyone have full map completion. It will be difficult to get many players in. In WvW, all you need to do is press ‘B’ and select a borderland. Not everyone has alts that has level sufficient enough for the zone. In WvW, every character gets upscaled to level 80. My suggestion will make it easier for guilds to play with each other. PvE guilds will have a easier time playing a map completion zerg.
By adding this, you give more reason to add MORE dynamic events(the selling point of Guild Wars 2) back into the old zone. PvE guild won’t have to play in the low level zones forever so that their low levels can join in the karma train. When data shows that zones are spiking up, it is time that dynamic events get more attention. You breath life back into the big vast world that was taken away from all this dungeon grinding and WvW karma train.
The cost of the influence MUST be cheap. It shouldn’t be crazy expensive nor require a certain impossible to reach tiers. It has to be small guild friendly.
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