I understand all of this. I’m just pointing out that this is not a “sudden” occurrence.
Mag is lower last two days around this time than earlier in the week, by about 50 to 100 ppt, you can look on the evolution chart.
Ultimately both servers will continue to move up and down I’m sure either way, even if we spend an extra week here. If there was one more server with the strength of Mag and YB, it would make for a great tier.
Agreed with the last point, but from my recollection we were lower in earlier days. Maybe it was only for a brief time but I remember being dead last in PPT instead of second more than once. The income evolution graphs are not fine grained enough to show it, I think.
Think we are gonna stay, Magoomba’s have too many scared of T3. They are losing to CD at the moment all of a sudden.
Every morning I get on to check the scores and we are almost always last in PPT. This is nothing new, and you of all people (being on YB, IIRC) should know that their Oceanics are obviously more numerous than ours.
DB’s Oceanic is several times stronger yet. And yet the last couple nights we have managed to actually battle a foothold overnight instead of getting wiped off the map.
Basically players have got to want it, there is a difference between pushing toward the end of a week and kind of just sitting out. I’ve seen both on our own server, but we definitely have not given up that way this week, despite the score gap.
I understand all of this. I’m just pointing out that this is not a “sudden” occurrence.
Think we are gonna stay, Magoomba’s have too many scared of T3. They are losing to CD at the moment all of a sudden.
Every morning I get on to check the scores and we are almost always last in PPT. This is nothing new, and you of all people (being on YB, IIRC) should know that their Oceanics are obviously more numerous than ours.
That’s fair, though I still don’t like it. I won’t argue any further. But I hope we are back in T3 this week and that we can put up a better fight. It is weird seeing DB hold 75% of the pie in NA prime.
I might agree that it was human nature, but I would also say that it’s idiotic to continue said judgment under the realization that that was exactly what was happening. But by all means, continue. Sorry I ever respected your posts
Except everytime Maguuma gets into tier 3 they just throw the match so they can go back to easier battles.
I wouldn’t confuse smaller with easier. They prefer smaller zergs and lots of roaming play, that doesn’t mean they are looking for ‘easier’. Besides I do not think they actually threw the match so much as they just didn’t have the coverage.
They look for easier… (Love the fight clubs with mag…) But when it comes to the game of WvW mags will sit there watch a siege between the other two servers…. When it is about over and the two servers have about wiped each other out mags will run in and try to wipe the capping group… It’s a sound tactic but its sad and just screams vulture….
Why should an underpopulated server play to your strengths? It’s a three way battle for a reason. I enjoy that aspect of the game far more then I enjoy watching two servers see who can stack the best.
Yes but the attitude that mags usually brings with it is horrendous… (OG LOOKING ATCHU!)
I’m really glad you’re generalizing an entire server based on a guild that nobody, not even from anyone from Maguuma, really likes because of their attitude.
Except everytime Maguuma gets into tier 3 they just throw the match so they can go back to easier battles.
I wouldn’t confuse smaller with easier. They prefer smaller zergs and lots of roaming play, that doesn’t mean they are looking for ‘easier’. Besides I do not think they actually threw the match so much as they just didn’t have the coverage.
They look for easier… (Love the fight clubs with mag…) But when it comes to the game of WvW mags will sit there watch a siege between the other two servers…. When it is about over and the two servers have about wiped each other out mags will run in and try to wipe the capping group… It’s a sound tactic but its sad and just screams vulture….
Why should an underpopulated server play to your strengths? It’s a three way battle for a reason. I enjoy that aspect of the game far more then I enjoy watching two servers see who can stack the best.
Yes but the attitude that mags usually brings with it is horrendous… (OG LOOKING ATCHU!) It’s just mind boggling to me when mag owns nothing in their BL and no one is really in their BL from other servers but they must be in the other servers business as they are hashing it out… IF you want the points… Own your home BL… I never leave my home BL aside from fight clubs here and there… There is always something to do… Upgrades… Escorts… Tickling siege (people don’t do that enough)
PPT is not the goal for many players, specially those that play on servers that haven’t had a close match in a long time.
Whether points are the focus or not,
Mag has a kittenty attitude.Mag may have the players to be a better server than Yak’s,
But they don’t use them.I want my opponent to actually WvW, not kitten around and idle off in the distance.
I don’t really know how it’s our fault that our fairweathers vanish into thin air when we hit T3. Must be our kittenty attitude?
A server is only as good as the fairweather players they can convince to keep fighting when behind in points
And the unfortunate reality of a server’s presence on the forum is that the loudest posters set the reputation for the rest of them. In your case, is OG.
Just like a handful of hackers on any given server can ruin its reputation in game, same thing applies to forum warriors here.
By that reasoning we should still be calling your server a hacking server. Have more respect.
Edit: By the way, if you look at the posting history of the most vocal OG member, he’s not trash talking other servers anymore because he’s busy trash talking us.
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Except everytime Maguuma gets into tier 3 they just throw the match so they can go back to easier battles.
I wouldn’t confuse smaller with easier. They prefer smaller zergs and lots of roaming play, that doesn’t mean they are looking for ‘easier’. Besides I do not think they actually threw the match so much as they just didn’t have the coverage.
They look for easier… (Love the fight clubs with mag…) But when it comes to the game of WvW mags will sit there watch a siege between the other two servers…. When it is about over and the two servers have about wiped each other out mags will run in and try to wipe the capping group… It’s a sound tactic but its sad and just screams vulture….
Why should an underpopulated server play to your strengths? It’s a three way battle for a reason. I enjoy that aspect of the game far more then I enjoy watching two servers see who can stack the best.
Yes but the attitude that mags usually brings with it is horrendous… (OG LOOKING ATCHU!)
I’m really glad you’re generalizing an entire server based on a guild that nobody, not even from anyone from Maguuma, really likes because of their attitude.
Except everytime Maguuma gets into tier 3 they just throw the match so they can go back to easier battles.
I wouldn’t confuse smaller with easier. They prefer smaller zergs and lots of roaming play, that doesn’t mean they are looking for ‘easier’. Besides I do not think they actually threw the match so much as they just didn’t have the coverage.
They look for easier… (Love the fight clubs with mag…) But when it comes to the game of WvW mags will sit there watch a siege between the other two servers…. When it is about over and the two servers have about wiped each other out mags will run in and try to wipe the capping group… It’s a sound tactic but its sad and just screams vulture….
Why should an underpopulated server play to your strengths? It’s a three way battle for a reason. I enjoy that aspect of the game far more then I enjoy watching two servers see who can stack the best.
Yes but the attitude that mags usually brings with it is horrendous… (OG LOOKING ATCHU!) It’s just mind boggling to me when mag owns nothing in their BL and no one is really in their BL from other servers but they must be in the other servers business as they are hashing it out… IF you want the points… Own your home BL… I never leave my home BL aside from fight clubs here and there… There is always something to do… Upgrades… Escorts… Tickling siege (people don’t do that enough)
PPT is not the goal for many players, specially those that play on servers that haven’t had a close match in a long time.
Whether points are the focus or not,
Mag has a kittenty attitude.Mag may have the players to be a better server than Yak’s,
But they don’t use them.I want my opponent to actually WvW, not kitten around and idle off in the distance.
I don’t really know how it’s our fault that our fairweathers vanish into thin air when we hit T3. Must be our kittenty attitude?
Fight club is still going on if anyone’s interested~
But you said it like a zinger as if we never fight on equal footing.
I doubt SBI/CD will read this like every other fight club post.
Fight club! We’ll be waiting at south camp Mag windmill from 9pm EST/6pm PST.
I read them, i just don’t trust you guys enough to show up.
Lol why? Maguuma is obsessed with Fight Clubs. I mean, we’re jerks, but we’re not liars.
Wonder what a server has to do to become distrusted when hosting fight club
Let’s not talk about excuses for playing poorly, or it’ll go back to the longwinded discussion about points not mattering zzz
[…………..] But i can tell you that it would not have mattered if they had defended the map from you cause the match is already over.
Not to revive a dead horse but stop being so nihilistic… What I see from your argument repeating over and over on the last pages is “we won’t be #1, therefore kitten trying …”
First. I offer you a bottle of YOLO and welcome to our world. Every single match Mag is in now is already predetermined in terms of #1 and usually 2 and 3 but so what? It doesn’t mean no one is allowed * gasp * try.
You can play your way but everyone else will discuss the battles and tactics regardless of final ranks.
You’re welcome to try all you want
It still won’t change the outcome
Why this upsets you that someone points out that the games World vs World ranking system is nothing more then a ranking based on Population I don’t know..
I thought this was well known by now.
Nobody has denied that rankings is population, the overall outcome is determined by population and that’s why maguuma is winning. Killjoy was never talking about the whole matchup, merely a snippet where she and four others took the east side of SBI bl without resistance whilst SBI had 10-15 players punching at SW tower, she is merely confused as to why the SBI players concerned chose SW tower over the east side of the bl is all. As a side note I think you also misunderstood the /laugh point, from what I read it’s more the confusion that the SBI defenders when eventually reacting on inner garrison /laugh’d at the maguuman invaders, an act of superiority over them. But the defenders had just lost their whole east side to those 5 who they /laugh’d at, showing a complete lack of superiority. I take the original post as a little bit of a lesson to check for ninja with a chest thumping agenda, but you know all about ninjas though right? (loved those videos friendopal)
Don’t want to get into the population argument…beaten, quivering hunk of dead horse meat that is…
But I was also confused by our response. I logged on in the middle of that and we only had 2-3 of us on TS that were responding to the ninja. The rest were pugs with tunnel vision on that tower I guess. Calls for defense were ignored. And we were slow to get eyes on where and how many there were.
We may have had more ppl on the map but we had very few ppl paying attention and trying to defend. It shouldn’t happen but it does.
I didn’t notice the emotes….didn’t come from those that were on TS I think….but that happens too. You can’t apply the attitude from some to a whole server. I certainly didn’t feel “superior” at that moment. But was relieved we finally responded enough to stop the ninja at Garrison at least. =/
Ah, so that’s what happened. Thanks for the clarifying, seems like that guy is just in a world of his own after all. Lots of us were just wondering why back cap when you can stop us? But I can completely understand that pugs could have been big part of it.
Yeah, the emotes are likely to come from pugs, I didn’t really care about it, I honestly just heard a Maguumian-like chuckle in their voices.
Did you want 1 gold from each person? It seems like you cant get enough of mentioning you took half the map with your 5 man group. Great! Lets move on…
Oh, you want to know why no one stopped you… who cares why no one stopped you there could be a million reasons why no one stopped you..
P.S Love this match-up there is always a fight to be found
Berm [BSW] SBI
posts about moving on
doesn’t move on
A discussion of “best server after mass exodus”.
Maybe after we determine which server that is, we could discuss something equally as prestigious like “best hockey player in Ecuador”.
Ha. (The answer is me)
Despicable[Me] guild leader here, amazing fights tonight with DB – mainly ones we ran into.
Mad props to WAR, and BP. Great plays.
I like your guild name!
“most successful post mass exodus server”, the most coveted title by all servers in gw2
Who is chest thumping about the score?
Where’s Raincrow? I miss Raincrow.
Don’t feed the trolls please.
If you scroll up and look at RaynStargze’s first post you’ll notice he’s complaining about HGH not being triggered by super elixir or med kit “elixirs” – skills that are not actually labeled as “elixir” skills.
So either he has no clue what he’s talking about (which is possible) or he’s just trolling (more than likely).
Also, Ostricheggs has good musk
https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/41775/gw003.jpg
Yeah, I was on SBI BL for awhile last night before we War Machined it. It’s been a long, long time since I’ve done small group activities and it was pretty fun. If you killed a terrible human engineer it was probably me!
By the way that sounds like BS to me because Kaineng hit +510 on reset night. I remember this because we were outmanned on 2-3 maps by midnight server time. I find it very hard to believe our keeps were that fortified.
Oh…..Ok yea no answer on that….I’m sure its happened to our server though.
and plenty of servers.
Exactly. It happens everywhere, all the time. People drop the ball. Theres no need to rub it in. We’ve had some really good ones. Like fumbles that would make the international financial crisis look like it was handled by pros.
Were you the most populated server at the time?
I mean maybe you had 60 people, and the other servers had 180 each..
No, Kaineng was more populated than every server T3 and below. That’s besides his point though since we are more populated too
It’s because Kaineng and Dragonbrand have superior tactics to us while we run around like headless chickens without our dear leader
So, exactly nobody agrees with this guys posts, even the people from his own server. That’s reassuring at least. I mean apparently that means we’re all idiots but still, we can be idiot buddies together!
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im so glad this is still going on
Nobody is, or ever was, saying that it mattered with respect to the outcome of this match. But whatever, let’s move on.
Nowhere in her post did she talk about winning the entire match.
I missed these long posts…
Do note that Ebay lost WvW Guilds in the last mass transfer before Anet reset the rankings. I’m not making up an excuse for why Ebay is losing, nor am I saying BP got lucky, etc. etc.
I think the surprising part is that Ehmry has been in T5 several times since paid transfers and has stomped the bracket in those matches.
So… Did BP get new oceanic players or something?
I have no idea, I hope it wasn’t people pulling an all nighter, Cause that simply won’t pan out in the long run. Every now and then a clutch late nighter sure, but “don’t sleep” is not a good strategy to rely on.
Look at the PPT evolution it seems it has to be more than all nighters. 15 minutes ago BP at +565? Ouch. Something must have changed in at least one of the servers.
Edit:
Spring Break
Ooh, forgot about that one.
Ah maybe that is it? I would think it would help all three servers to a similar degree?
I dunno
Some people like to claim they have more working class citizens in times like these. There is no objective way of measuring it, hence why he said it was speculation. I remember when we beat YB during one of the weeks of Christmas break, they basically speculated the same thing.
So… Did BP get new oceanic players or something?
I have no idea, I hope it wasn’t people pulling an all nighter, Cause that simply won’t pan out in the long run. Every now and then a clutch late nighter sure, but “don’t sleep” is not a good strategy to rely on.
Look at the PPT evolution it seems it has to be more than all nighters. 15 minutes ago BP at +565? Ouch. Something must have changed in at least one of the servers.
Edit:
Spring Break
Ooh, forgot about that one.
Where did they get them from?
We would not win this week because we try not to be (too) mean when we’re population-stomping other servers. I think our record is 4 or 5, though.
I missed you, Saiyr.
Awwwwwwww~
I don’t like where this thread is going, trying to supplant Maguuma as the undisputed king of thread locks
Because I’m part of a secret organization specifically coordinating to sabotage any chance of winning.
…
Yeah, you’ll often see me with 30 other people in there just sitting around waiting for that one lowbie to venture in hoping to do a JP and earn some badges/siege. Then I pop out and am like lolololno, roflstomp. You caught me sir :[
idk that didn’t sound very secret to me
Broccoli’s Pass is destroying Ehmry Bay and you guys can’t beat Maguuma?!. I want my money back!.
I’m confused as to what exactly you’re surprised about?
A few of each are here.
Can someone explain this to me?
A failed and not to serious attempt to ninja Hills. can only work if it goes undiscovered. Which is unlikely on a fortified wall.
Was discovered and countered by a mortar easily as was excepted. Just testing and fooling around really.
Have you never seen that placement before?
Nope…I watched the catapult for awhile (I was the ele you kept clusterbombing, jerks
) and I didn’t see it hitting anything. When I arrived, it was just hitting the cliff face. I left it for awhile because I was really confused as to what it could hit. I saw that it was hitting the SE tower treb spot, but that’s not a destructible wall. I guess it was splashing the one next to it? Either way, I feel like you might as well do the standard placement against the wall. It only delayed me a few seconds in finding it, but I heard the cata sound all the way from north gate.
2nd day in a tougher match up and we are outmanned on EB and no commander lol. Where as last week almost every day eb had a queue and a commander on most maps (even if I never heard of them before). Nice SBI, Fair weather people left quicker than I expected. Oh well so it goes.
Convince more of your guild to join in! Last month it used to be just me in wvw, nowadays we usually have enough for a full party. Progress is being made.
My whole guild has been there.. it is very small though :P. We still have many more people that are here than our last time in t4 but you can see a huge difference from this weeks numbers from last.. maybe it is spring break.. idk.
The part that makes me the most confused though is all the people that started showing commander tags last week and have since disappeared.. they paid 100 gold so they could look cool while we rolled over smaller pops (I guess) and then disappear when it is a harder game lol.
I understand there fair weather players.. but fair weather commanders.. really? Seems like a waste to me. Why bother buying the tag?
Personally I have found this week very fun though.. much more fun than last week!
Meh, for your server coming up a tier and ours dropping down, you guys are doing very well. I like that the match is pretty close, and I saw SBI even had the PPT lead for a little while last night.
JQ got bandwagoned right before free transfers ended. Which in my opinion is actually better than a free ride through almost every tier.
I take what I earlier wrote. Maguuma may be as strong as YB. Both Servers should DUKE IT OUT.
Kinda wish we could, but when we drop down to T4 it’s always switching places with them. Though we did beat them pretty badly last time because of our numbers. Dunno if they have enough to match our fairweather crew.
Maguuma has been reformed. We’ve learned a lot about civility from the last matchup. We will not engage in combat with anyone who waves or bows at us, and we will only send an equal number of players into the fray if such a situation comes up (I pray that it does not come to this).
*gives you cookies
This is a no cookie zone (aka the EU lol).
yb: 8.4k 310ppt
DB: 5.4k 165ppt
SoS: 5.2k 220ppt
ilu AoN
Interesting score for the night, I didn’t really expect YB to beat SoS, since they still did pretty well in T2. Is SoS primarily Oceanic now?
Infracted for misspelling siege. I expected more from you, Killjoy.
Then you are the one who’s made the biggest error.
Touché.
Anyone have an update?
Infracted for misspelling siege. I expected more from you, Killjoy.
I think we need to rereform now.
I always ask this and it’s always pointless, but are there any roamers I should look for this week?
Does it help to know their guild tag? If you’re roaming, and they’re roaming, won’t you just run into them? It does indeed seem like a pointless question.
Unless he just doesn’t WvW if he doesn’t get a response. I haven’t seen dreztina-chan in WvW in awhile


Lies, you were on earlier today, I HEARD IT!!
Unless I’m confusing you with someone else but I don’t think I am
I tried shaking hands and wishing Tarnished Coast well I even bowed to all of you in your Battleground. They just ran into the nearest fortification or summoned 5 other friends to try and attack me.
Well you must have scared them!
Me? I would have tickled you.
I wouldn’t you would make Saiyr jealous. :P
I wouldn’t blame her, who wouldn’t fall for your silky smooth voice? I am just a grumpy manchild.
We just didn’t like all of your image macros.
Yep. That was all on me … Because I’d been doing it for so long in tier2 and folks enjoyed the humour.
So lets just blame everything on me, shake hands, and wish everyone well.
Okay it’s all your fault, now I feel better about you leaving me for T2.
We just didn’t like all of your image macros.

