There are a couple things to consider when using a build in spvp and trying to apply it to wvw, well more than a couple, but anyway….
Full zerker gear in wvw has NO vitality added, unlike the amulet, so you’ll have even less HP.
Damage (that you will take) is higher in wvw than spvp. Backstabs and kill shots will insta-down you. None of your skills will insta-down anyone. Many other profession’s skills have been nerfed in spvp to reduce their damage as well, prepare to 3 shot yourself on confusion stacks.
I’m well aware of that. However, the PvE build I’ve made is far more better than the PvP one. With food I’ve calculated having 15300 health, 2220 armor, 50% crit chance and 96% crit damage. This gives me both higher defense and damage compared to sPvP. I’ll see how well it works in WvW and I also want to try staff dps build inside dungeons/fractals to see how far I’ll be able to push it without dying all too much.
What’s your power/attack? I’d like to know your setup there.
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
To [DD] Thief in DBBL.
We suck? Oh okay.
wat?
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
Your personal opinion is wrong. PvF warriors, CHAAAAARRRGE!!!!!
Oh no, I’m outmanned. Badges for you :p
At least you don’t have any repair fees.
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
Hope not… I’d like to see Yak’s stay. They’re a jolly organized bunch, and can really surprise everyone with their tenaciousness. We’ve learned not to take them lightly. My personal opinion is that Yak’s are stronger than Mags (PvF warriors, please don’t start another war here, it’s my personal opinion). I think they can be #8 for a long time, or maybe even #7 with their current strength.
We are going to switch places with Yak’s Bend next week because they stole a ton of points from SoS that they clearly didn’t deserve. Calvin, if you don’t want a war, then do the obvious thing: keep your opinion to yourself. I’d like to see YB stay too, but they are not, in their current state, stronger than us by any measurable statistic. I sure would like to know what your opinion is based on, besides the poop of bulls.
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
Maguumas NA is T2/T3.
Maguumas SEA is T4/T5
This is where the problem lies.
If DB think they have it hard during NA timezone they should try being on MAG during SEA.
DB doesn’t “have it hard” at any time vs. Maguuma. Occasionally they manage to gain a moderate point lead for an hour or two. And they point to that and say, “look look! If if , but but, QQ!”
I dunno about you, but I’d consider losing all three keeps on my borderlands having it hard…I guess it’s just a difference of opinion.
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
I’ve hardly seen any EA this match, where do you guys play?
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
Mesmers are really terrible at running.
You’re just saying that cuz your mesmer is fat
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
If you aren’t playing an engineer you’re pretty much fotm anyway. Also I just noticed he meant to say “comprised”
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
all the real pros roam as staff eles
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
Uh, don’t you have to stand in the lord’s room circle even if you kill the lord with an arrow cart (and don’t NPCs regen if you hit them with siege usually, unless already in combat?)?
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
I’m sorry to disrail this thread, but I have an emergency message for Mag. The thread for SF/NSP/HoD has gotten 3 locks. I smell a fourth within 24 hours. What was your guys’ record again? You can’t sit here and claim to be champs of PvF if you allow this to go on and then all my dreams and aspirations will be shattered.
Also Eva, Saiyr is my bestie. Back off!
I thought we were friends. Sharing is caring?
Can we just let them answer?
The majority of them do not speak English.
To everyone else:
The SEA guilds on Dragonbrand are incredible. Don’t diss them. They may ‘PvD’ at times, but that’s because SEA is DB’s Prime Time. It’s not their fault that they aren’t paired up with a stronger SEA presence.
Dissing Dragonbrand for having a stronger SEA presence than NA is just ridiculous. The world is round. Some people live on the other half. Just get over it!
There are times when DB’s SEA presence has been tested – And they still came out just fine. They had more of a fight, so the point spreads weren’t as huge, and yes, they still lost because they had more opposition at their time frame. NA needs a lot of help. A lot. But that’s not their fault either. The diehards have stayed through thick and thin. Including their SEA players. That is respectable. It’s server pride. I left DB for reasons of my own. (Wanted to run with old friends, and didn’t really have anyone in WvW when I was on to play). They stay because they want to run with their friends and build up their community. Everyone has server pride. Everyone ‘chest thumps’ when they are winning.
oh also… hearing someone who bailed on their server talk about server pride and it being respectable can just save their fingers some typing.
I didn’t ‘bail on the server’. I left to play with people I knew.
People you knew that aren’t me :’(
Sorry! I still heart you, lol – you’re my favorite Maguuman!
Et tu Brutus?
You don’t count. You’re in BT, lol
And you know I’m cooler than him, anyway…but we’ll keep that between ourselves.
Are you a street walking cheetah with a heart full of napalm and a runaway son of a nuclear A bomb?
No I am gollum and I play with my feet.
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
Can we just let them answer?
The majority of them do not speak English.
To everyone else:
The SEA guilds on Dragonbrand are incredible. Don’t diss them. They may ‘PvD’ at times, but that’s because SEA is DB’s Prime Time. It’s not their fault that they aren’t paired up with a stronger SEA presence.
Dissing Dragonbrand for having a stronger SEA presence than NA is just ridiculous. The world is round. Some people live on the other half. Just get over it!
There are times when DB’s SEA presence has been tested – And they still came out just fine. They had more of a fight, so the point spreads weren’t as huge, and yes, they still lost because they had more opposition at their time frame. NA needs a lot of help. A lot. But that’s not their fault either. The diehards have stayed through thick and thin. Including their SEA players. That is respectable. It’s server pride. I left DB for reasons of my own. (Wanted to run with old friends, and didn’t really have anyone in WvW when I was on to play). They stay because they want to run with their friends and build up their community. Everyone has server pride. Everyone ‘chest thumps’ when they are winning.
oh also… hearing someone who bailed on their server talk about server pride and it being respectable can just save their fingers some typing.
I didn’t ‘bail on the server’. I left to play with people I knew.
People you knew that aren’t me :’(
Sorry! I still heart you, lol – you’re my favorite Maguuman!
Et tu Brutus?
You don’t count. You’re in BT, lol
And you know I’m cooler than him, anyway…but we’ll keep that between ourselves.
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
Can we just let them answer?
The majority of them do not speak English.
To everyone else:
The SEA guilds on Dragonbrand are incredible. Don’t diss them. They may ‘PvD’ at times, but that’s because SEA is DB’s Prime Time. It’s not their fault that they aren’t paired up with a stronger SEA presence.
Dissing Dragonbrand for having a stronger SEA presence than NA is just ridiculous. The world is round. Some people live on the other half. Just get over it!
There are times when DB’s SEA presence has been tested – And they still came out just fine. They had more of a fight, so the point spreads weren’t as huge, and yes, they still lost because they had more opposition at their time frame. NA needs a lot of help. A lot. But that’s not their fault either. The diehards have stayed through thick and thin. Including their SEA players. That is respectable. It’s server pride. I left DB for reasons of my own. (Wanted to run with old friends, and didn’t really have anyone in WvW when I was on to play). They stay because they want to run with their friends and build up their community. Everyone has server pride. Everyone ‘chest thumps’ when they are winning.
oh also… hearing someone who bailed on their server talk about server pride and it being respectable can just save their fingers some typing.
I didn’t ‘bail on the server’. I left to play with people I knew.
People you knew that aren’t me :’(
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
Is WvW more of a PvE activity for DB SEA players?
When mag hits 400-500 ppt in unbalanced matches, we actually lose players because it is very boring and usually pvd.
How do you keep interest in logging in every night to wipe the maps and then log off? Is it strictly for karma/xp? You guys have been at it for many, many months now.
You’ve got the point. Deep and penetrating. These players wont get bored of this form of pve farming.
haha haters gonna hate, we’re going to continue on despite your poor attitude. Keep up the pvforum lolz!
You misunderstood something. I am not even on one of the servers of your tier. I just know little more about the habit of my compatriots.
lol ur post should come with a disclaimer. Either way I strongly defend our SEA they are amazing players and an integral part of DB. Those who bare the mark of the Dragon; I salute you!
They really are an integral part of DB, without them you’d be in a much lower tier and grats on taking empty keeps at 6am eastern time.
ah the good ol PvF we have grown to love from mag. where are the flame rams in camps and the middle of no where? I fear mag is losing their kewl so sad.
Are you saying it isn’t true? Do you not appreciate them enough to acknowledge their importance to DB?
If my server lost a lot of players, we would be in a lower tier. That’s how it works.
not really sure who your question is intended for. I stated our SEA is amazing and integral. And I will not respond to pathetic hypothetical troll questions.
I think you responded to a pathetic hypothetical troll question. BTW I love going against trollguuma. The forums are so good. I cant tell you how boring those weeks with SOS were.
I also credit Maguuma for the extra defense DB is putting in. We knew you were stronger than T4.
If we don’t reset your waypoints at least once before the end of the week I WILL BE VERY SAD
Two out of three okay? vOv
If it was EK and WK it would be okay since we reset garrison yesterday. But no. Not okay. Get back to work!!
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
Is WvW more of a PvE activity for DB SEA players?
When mag hits 400-500 ppt in unbalanced matches, we actually lose players because it is very boring and usually pvd.
How do you keep interest in logging in every night to wipe the maps and then log off? Is it strictly for karma/xp? You guys have been at it for many, many months now.
You’ve got the point. Deep and penetrating. These players wont get bored of this form of pve farming.
haha haters gonna hate, we’re going to continue on despite your poor attitude. Keep up the pvforum lolz!
You misunderstood something. I am not even on one of the servers of your tier. I just know little more about the habit of my compatriots.
lol ur post should come with a disclaimer. Either way I strongly defend our SEA they are amazing players and an integral part of DB. Those who bare the mark of the Dragon; I salute you!
They really are an integral part of DB, without them you’d be in a much lower tier and grats on taking empty keeps at 6am eastern time.
ah the good ol PvF we have grown to love from mag. where are the flame rams in camps and the middle of no where? I fear mag is losing their kewl so sad.
Are you saying it isn’t true? Do you not appreciate them enough to acknowledge their importance to DB?
If my server lost a lot of players, we would be in a lower tier. That’s how it works.
not really sure who your question is intended for. I stated our SEA is amazing and integral. And I will not respond to pathetic hypothetical troll questions.
I think you responded to a pathetic hypothetical troll question. BTW I love going against trollguuma. The forums are so good. I cant tell you how boring those weeks with SOS were.
I also credit Maguuma for the extra defense DB is putting in. We knew you were stronger than T4.
If we don’t reset your waypoints at least once before the end of the week I WILL BE VERY SAD
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
Someone’s telling us we have 80 DB and YB each in our borderlands, isn’t that entertaining?
DB: 140,376 +295
Mag: 121,781 +125
YB: 93,514 +275
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
Should we not be acting like ourselves? My momma always told me I should be myself…
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
Maguuma can’t stop posting about CD in the tier 4 thread even when they are no longer in this tier… must be love.
CD mentioned them like 5 times. And then you guys get all surprised, when they come here and respond.
“I talked about them, and they responded! They need to get a life. OMG.”
Mentioning a server doesn’t require a response a response from that server. I’m sure CD is mentioned in several other threads on this forum besides this one, but I don’t feel obligated to go read every post in every thread to make sure all the mentions of CD get responses. Also, I like your interpretation of my quote, it made me laugh.
It doesn’t require a response, but it shouldn’t surprise you that someone felt like responding to passive aggressive comments made in public.
Life is going to be pretty tough if you feel the need to respond to every piece of criticism about you. Fox News criticizes President Obama’s policies everyday, I wouldn’t envy him if he had your mindset.
Good thing I don’t feel the need to respond to every piece of criticism about me then, eh, Foxy?
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
Maguuma can’t stop posting about CD in the tier 4 thread even when they are no longer in this tier… must be love.
CD mentioned them like 5 times. And then you guys get all surprised, when they come here and respond.
“I talked about them, and they responded! They need to get a life. OMG.”
Mentioning a server doesn’t require a response a response from that server. I’m sure CD is mentioned in several other threads on this forum besides this one, but I don’t feel obligated to go read every post in every thread to make sure all the mentions of CD get responses. Also, I like your interpretation of my quote, it made me laugh.
It doesn’t require a response, but it shouldn’t surprise you that someone felt like responding to passive aggressive comments made in public.
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
Pretty sure it was more than just you~ it’s also already half way through the match…so not that early.
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
We’re doing a fight club while 2nd in ppt/score vs the 3rd place in ppt/score while the 1st goes all tryhard. We just like to pvp. Maybe CD will have fun one day~
Probably when they start winning!
Didn’t you know that giving people fair fights with equal numbers and a chance to win instead of repeated zergsmashes is a distraction tactic to increase the gap in our PPT?
Lol, back to back to back mag posts…in the sos/sbi/cd matchup thread. We get it, you guys are best forum warriors. Grats.
We just wanted to show you guys some support after all of you said YB would beat us.
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
Mags like to distract players with fightclub; so not everyone gets to participate in getting better scores at WVW. Then again, it was fun fighting them. Very strong ground forces, but very … weird forum warriors.
We’re doing a fight club while 2nd in ppt/score vs the 3rd place in ppt/score while the 1st goes all tryhard. We just like to pvp. Maybe CD will have fun one day~
Probably when they start winning!
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
Whoever the EA elementalist was at Maguuma ruins, that was a fun fight until the warrior interrupted it
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
I for one would like to see DNA vs BV
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
This is some next level forum stuff. DB starts topics and then asks us to lay off the topics. Really changing this forum meta.
The student has become the master?
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
complaining about night capping is so passé
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
The north tower flipping is not the KoME guild. If some CD actually wants to look into it then PM me.
I always thought you were Mag. Like us better than Yak’s and DB eh?
I am Mag. We experienced the north tower flipping almost every day of last week’s match and I learned a bit from it.
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
The north tower flipping is not the KoME guild. If some CD actually wants to look into it then PM me.
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
So you guys expect DB to be winning more then 10k? Believe in yourselves! Besides, it’s Monday and who knows what the scores will be on Friday 
In the context of “Mag and YB should be T4”, yes, I would expect that :P
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
Maguma and Yaks Bend, I am sincerely sorry we have a Sea presence but you knew that long before this match even started. You beat us once with our Sea presence and back then I would say our NA was stronger at defending. Do you feel better now? I don’t see DB crying about our NA presence as much as you all QQ. Suck it up and fight it out or you could simply join us because we all know DB’s Sea is loyal.
DB was the ones QQing about mags nightcapping? lol wut? All we did was point out who was actually nightcapping…..
ok so we all agree complaining about night capping is ridiculous, so lets drop it.
on another note I think DB is the only server in t3 that belongs here. both yaks and mag are t4 at best.
Tree yak is being inflammatory… You are not even winning by 10k right now, I think that speaks volumes. And both of our servers wreck T4.
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
Oh I see.
I was thinking saiyr and his crew moved to TC coz I only remember the guild tag, not the name. xD
Tbh, I was kinda excited ;3
How about iLL? Coz I saw about 2-3 iLL on TC.
Hehehe my crew…
If the iLL isn’t Illusion then it’s not them. Otherwise I have no idea.
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
I’m requesting that Maguuma’s server be renamed to Pride Lands. The only time I’ve seen Maguuma in WvW is in one, big, giant, absurdly sized zerg that I swear everyone on their server is in. You find out where the zerg is, you go to the opposite side of the map, and then all of a sudden the stampede from The Lion King comes pouring over the hills and there’s nothing you can do because you evaporate and die faster than Mufasa. I feel like Simba every time I look up a hill or tower.
tldr; Maguuma is the stampede from The Lion King.
I like this analogy and will be listening to “…To Die For” whenever I’m zerging you Mufasas down
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
No one on JQ would engage in this behavior? Nice claim, now prove it.
Sorry friendo, proving goes the other way. Innocent until proven guilty
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
You literally just pointed fingers
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
::puts on my Maguuma cheerleader outfit:: Gooooo MAGGIES!
I’m confused by this post and am not sure what to think about it eva.
That’s cute,
DB is having such a great time.
Yeah, Me thinks those who bailed to early are missing out on what we have had a blast with the last 4 weeks. Not sayin’ but just ;P
What do you mean?
Eva used to be in our guild and a commander on DB. She left to FA and was about a week too early before the fun we have had lately. So now I’m guessing she is a jealous cheerleader for MAG for some odd reason.
Jealous? No, not jealous. I left Dragonbrand because the only time anyone really comes out to play is when they are winning… When they’re not winning, a good chunk of them go to PvE. That, and the ‘raid times’ were far too late in the evening for me… 9pm on a weeknight? Nah. Wait til you get bumped up, or we get bumped down (probably not for quite a while)… and see how many get beaten back to Dungeons…
I went somewhere that I know more people, and even when we are losing we are still out playing. I am simply showing respect to the several folks on Maguuma that have the same fighting (even when they’re losing) spirit as FA. They may not be the ‘greatest’ – but – They have some kickarse people over there in my opinion.
You mean the same Maguuma that deliberately lost to get to T4 twice? So they could pvd their way around? I’m confused. That is quite the fighting spirit.
She didn’t say our entire server, she said “several folks.” There’s not much a handful of people can do at T3. Unless they’re you, I guess.
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
I’m sorry, you can’t be Gollum, because I’m Gollum
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
I’m a noob and you have no sense of humor and you get all of your posts reported. Hm.
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
From where I stand Top of Tier 3 > Bottom of Tier 2.
How many times did you beat FA in recent times? o_O (pretty sure the answer is none, by the way)
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
Yak’s Bend and Dragonbrand are going to double team us! I heard it from Sea of Sorrows!!!
Yeah right, DB bl getting Double teamed, by yaks and mag.
Fending off two 40+ man zergs inside our garison each hitting different gates. I’m pretty sure that’s the definition of double teaming, the cowards to afraid to fight server to server. I understand being jealous of our green power but seriously stop trying to be us, its not possible.
Sorry Mag you still belong in t4, and yaks you will never be green till DB goes to t2 or you go to t4.
I for one am really, really proud that your first post on these forums were a super serious post in response to a joke. Bravo~
::puts on my Maguuma cheerleader outfit:: Gooooo MAGGIES!
I’m confused by this post and am not sure what to think about it eva.
That’s cute,
DB is having such a great time.
Yeah, Me thinks those who bailed to early are missing out on what we have had a blast with the last 4 weeks. Not sayin’ but just ;P
What do you mean?
Eva used to be in our guild and a commander on DB. She left to FA and was about a week too early before the fun we have had lately. So now I’m guessing she is a jealous cheerleader for MAG for some odd reason.
Pretty sure she’s a Mag cheerleader because of me!
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
Yak’s Bend and Dragonbrand are going to double team us! I heard it from Sea of Sorrows!!!
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
I’m not good at montage like jatska but in loving memory of this matchup~
Maybe we see you in a few weeks. Stay classy!
I think you did a wonderful job at capturing Maguuma throughout the matchups~
Especially since I got some text real estate aww yeah!!
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
I’m sure some people in this tier will be monitoring us hoping for our stomping and subsequent QQ, they’ll let you know
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
It’s wrong. As was mentioned before, it’s always 0:00 UTC.
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
UTC is the time we use, so as daylight saving time comes on and off in certain locales it will affect when the reset hits you. Further reason to ditch daylight saving time altogether.
Out of curiosity, where do you live, to make such a statement?
As with the rest of Anet, I’m in Washington state. And we still foolishly use daylight saving time. I just wish we didn’t.
I know, I am just saying that there are very valid reasons for having DST in many parts of the world. To not keep it uniform would arguably complicate it a lot more than having to adjust your clock twice a year.
But I believe we are drifting off-topic here. Thanks for being more active on the forums than your predecessor by the way, even if it just so happens to be in a discussion about DST.
Haha, you think DST implies uniformity…that’s cute
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
Good luck moving up Mag. You brought skill to Tier 4. Namely guilds Durp and Shadowmoon that impressed me, that you guys have knowledge of wvw that is at least t2 standard.
Will miss the fun open field fights that made us better fighting you and allowed us to see our weak areas.
Thanks, Yulo~ I wish we had more fights against groups that you led.
hai~ thank you!
Come back to ussssss
I might come back next week
Woooo do it do it do it do it do it do it!!!
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
So, anyone from CD know a guy named Joose?
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy
I think he was making a joke about forums GvG :P I don’t think we can get 20 people on for an actual GvG but I’m sure we’re down for whatever size we can get. PYRO etc too.
[DERP] Saiyr, “bff” of Sgt Killjoy