Guild Wars 2

What would be the point of Mesmer’s clones if you always had the correct Mesmer targeted and never accidently click on the clone.

Also, if you do “previous target” shift tab you should be back on your previous target aka the person that went stealth.

Abazigal.3679:

Exactly. I agree with your 2nd point. Yesterday i won almost all games and i jumped from 95% to r710. I did only soloQ and seemed to face mostly soloQ players.

Today i did 1 match, i was matched with r5-15 players against a r45-58 premade and i’ve lost 255 ranks. This makes no sense

Yeah because there is no ELO system, they never clarified how there system works, but all I notice is 1 win is a set amount of points no matter how low of a rank people are and 1 loss is set amount of points no matter how good the other team is.

So if you get lucky enough to play 30 games of complete bad players, as in you find some trick into there system where you got all the good players on your friends list and que up when all the good players are in a game and play nothing but bad players, in theory you should make it to r1 with those 30 consecutive wins against bad players.

Someone can prove me wrong but that’s what I noticed, and if your in % you’ll likely go up 2-3% (regardless if you beat a crazy good ranking leaderboard team that somehow was que’ed against you), they made it harder than what it was before (5%), and you most likely lose a lot of points now while on leaderboards but I haven’t managed to get onto the leaderboards as much as I’d like to after this change. My guessing is they want the people with most win % to stay on leaderboard, regardless of how many strong teams you play against.

This has nothing to do with conquest mode, conquest mode is competitive, it does require teamplay and teamwork.

One of the issues is nobody knows whose the best of the best in GW2, when they release good competitive leaderboards then we will know who the best of the best is, but right now the current leaderboard is highly inaccurate. They hide so much stuff from us as well.

In the starcraft leaderboards (starcraft is/was an esports game) they showed the number rating, they had a good rating system and people chose who they wanted to play (as in they don’t play against people that destroy them or people chose not to play against people who would only make there points go up by 2 points), also the starcraft leaderboard showed the total amount of disconnect players do, so you know who the poor losers are as well.

Now I’m not saying GW2 has to let us chose who we play against, and we see there ratings before we play against them, but ANET needs to fix the matchmaking system so that people are playing against the right people, the people around there rating and place winners against winners, don’t do this play against same team 4 times bullkitten. And its CLEAR solo que’ers don’t want to be matched up against premades, so they obviously need to fix that as well.

They should show a history log as well, of who you play againsted, who you played with, and what the score was.

They should also improve the friends list, so it shows your pvp rank or pvp glory rank as well. So theres more incentive and reasons for people to show off how good they are in pvp.

They need to make the tournaments bigger, they shouldn’t even have a team limit on tournaments, you should keep playing till you lose then you have to reque type of deal.

Lastly, in GW1 it was hard to get glory rank, that’s because you could only get it in the tournament pvp, you couldn’t get it in the hotjoin games. GW2 needs to remove glory from hotjoins and only make glory obtainable in tpvp. As of right now if you ask any pve’er that your such and such rank, all they will say is “yeah I could farm that too”.

Glory rank is incredibly easy to obtain in pvp, it needs to be fixed. So when people do reach high ranks people stop in awe of them and respect them for how good they are. As of right now if your a high rank all it means is you have no life, you farm hotjoins all day long, your not necessarily good at all.

The leaderboard should reset weekly, just like wvw, however you should have a lifetime leaderboard as well. With rank being how you placed each week.

If you play against a premade wait like 5 mins before you que up unless you want to face them again as a solo que. If you have friends that group and you see them online, wait till they get into a game before you que up.

This matchmaking system goes off of leaderboard rank.

Yup, I just got done playing against a premade and they were all my friends too because we are all at same place rank wise.

The matchmaking system places you against people your leaderboard rank wise. It doesn’t put solo que’ers vs solo que’ers its system is based on your leaderboard rank.

At caed’s 2v2 arena I saw zoose 1v1 a phantasm Mesmer think it was phataram and he won 3 out of 4 of the ones I saw as a S/D ele. Gotta use mist form when they start doing the combo on you, you just have to watch them do there combos enough to know when to go invulnerable.

Engineer, good bunkers and dps. Same with guardian. Rest of professions are alright. Thief requires high skill level when you play against good people, but in spvp heartseeker spam works fine.

I don’t mind people trash talking but when people go afk because there buddies are there or they recognize a premade that’s good, that’s some bullkitten.

I’ve noticed Anet current matchmaking system will place you with people around your leaderboard rank, because I’ve instant solo que’d into the same premade 3 times and we got destroyed by them all three times.

How about when you solo que, and your playing against a premade but one of the people on your team are friends with the premade so they go afk.

Had a game like that today, and theres nothing you can do about it which is terrible.

These types of threads have came up repeatedly for months YET ANET DOES NOTHING which frustrates me.

Yup this leaderboard is a joke.

You told anet to fix this!

Yeah come to Jade Quarry, we always got commanders up and WvW xp all day. We may not be #1 anymore because stupid ranking system where you win 3 games lose 1 game then win another 3 and lose 1 and you get bumped to #2, last time I checked we beat BG twice or three times as many as they beaten us, we slaughtered them a few times by wooping 70k lead too.

All you need to do is not play, let them completely destroy you with perfect WvW score and you’ll be guaranteed to get knocked down to lower tier.

Funny how tpvp has turned into this. This is why leaderboard is very bad. When you get enough of these games back to back it hurts your ranking and I’ve been on the unlucky side lately.

Yes I agree they should reset the leaderboard.

Is there someway you can turn off clicking on peoples name bars? Whenever you click on it when teleporting it teleports you in middle of screen and not where you clicked.

I have my UI set I know whats going to pop up and where, I don’t want to be able to click on information tabs, I just want to click in the game environment and wondering if theres a mode where it lets you do that.

Well I was rank 331 for awhile, so it aint hard unless theres a lack of good players out there. Yes I agree with you, NA leaderboards is whoever has the best friends list.

However I stopped caring because I want to get all my champ titles and solo que’d, which hurt my rank tremendously because I went to 40% then they decide to change up the leaderboards to make it so you only go up 3% rather than 5% which I didn’t expect coming.

As for GW2 r80 taking 7(8) years I highly doubt that, glory is A LOT easier to obtain in GW2 than in GW1. If someone is already r68 than if he keeps playing he will reach r80 in little over 2 years. In GW1 people didn’t reach r68 in less than a year, more like 3 or 4 years.

But yes glory is a joke in PvP right now, in GW1 it was only obtainable in HoH tournament, because that’s all they had there was no hotjoins, and you only got rank points when you won, which means you could have a bad team all day long and not even achieve 1 rank point and however the good teams that won consecutive games would get rank points stacked every consecutive win. In GW2 you could be on a 20 tournament win streak and you get same 200 glory everytime, theres no such thing as consecutive win bonus.

autoduck.2837:

uberkingkong.8041:

Amityel.5324:

I am also leaving quite often when I see I play with pug vs team……sorry but I wont waste my time just because ANET isnt competitive enough to split it for solo players and teams….everytime I log off I can do food for me or other things till match is over so….

yeah its pretty smart, your going to lose anyways so why even try right? Better to go take a break while stupid stuff like that happens rather than get frustrated that you cant kill anything and your team isn’t very good because the other team a premade is just facerolling you.

Why even play tournaments then? Just don’t join at all if you are afraid of facing a premade. Go play some hotjoin or pve, tpvp does not need people like you.

I don’t leave, but I understand there situation. Happened to me earlier today, played against high ranking leaderboard team solo que back to back, and you have no idea how frustrating it is.

Like I said, some people play tpvp all day long and when you play a lot of tpvp you’ll recognize those good teams and players and some people just ragequit solo que because its some bullkitten how they gotta face a very good premade team solo que.

Even more bullkitten when you have to face them twice after getting spanked.

I don’t play on EU but there sure isn’t any in NA. Theres really no incentive for people to make strict PvP guild because theres no upgrades to do or strive for. You get better influence via PvE and you cant spend anything for PvP influence, 10% more influence in PvP isn’t anything special.

best bet is to group with friends and network for tpvp games.

Saw a r61 guy today. But it should take a long time to get to 80, because than whats your incentive going to be?

Also don’t forget this is MMORPG and not GW1 so the ranks will probably increase in future. I’m not sure what they would make r90, maybe giant??

Yeah metatail you see that kitten, I played back to back against premade, not any premade, I played against top 100 leaderboard premade people. Then I played a game solo que, lost to some high rank team that shouldn’t even be playing against premades and then I que up for next game and look who ya know, its the same kittening team.

You wonder why people ragequit or leave before the game even starts, its because theres no chance.

Since the system is completely bs I really don’t blame people for leaving.

When I’m solo queing I don’t want to see anyone with name like Caed, cuz that’s some bullkitten how I have to go against premades with him on there team solo que.

He aint rank 1 anymore because he didn’t play for 2 days, then he played today and got wooped.

Its like me getting to rank 100, not playing and bragging about being a kitten because my rank will never move.

nice thing about ranger pet is you can have your pet attack a enemy bunker all day long and the pet will never die because bunker cant deal high enough damage to kill pet. oh and the pet doesn’t count as a person so its like 6v5.

I have to admit it sure kitten es bunkers off when they are stuck with a constantly attacking pet.

Stof.9584:

uberkingkong.8041:

Rangers get brought everytime spirit watch is tpvp map.

Not sure about sanctuary – no hit immune to everything, while grabbing the orb, so guardians get brought too.

Is it Anet’s intention to make guardians commune without getting interrupted? Please, tell me one way to interrupt them.

Ground aoe and unblockable skills can pierce Sanctuary, and so can all melee hits if you have stability.

I do agree, it’s hard to counter, because the commune time on the orb is faster than any projectile or player can travel outside of melee range…

ahh ok, I don’t have any melee weapons so I guess he will get it everytime from me. I remember a thread saying range beats melee but I guess in this situation you need that guy to melee.

Archaon.6245:

Gold tournament chest…funny thing is that you can drop only gauntlets as far as i know…for the rest guess what? Oh yeah…you need pve/gems

I got them in Silver tournament chest as well.

rangers get brought everytime spirit watch is tpvp map.

Not sure about sanctuary no hit immune to everything while grabbing the orb guardians get brought up though.

Is anet intention to make guardians commune without getting interrupted? Please tell me 1 way to interrupt them, oh that’s right there isn’t a single way they immune to everything.

Because anet needs to fix the server browser.
AS of right now if you see a game 10/20 and you think to yourself “hey I can join that game”, so you click on it and it says full, that’s because theres 10 spectators that the browser doesn’t show you. The browser also doesn’t tell you player max, so you could join a 17/20 game and be wondering why you cant join and only spectate and that’s because the owner of the server put it to 8v8.

Anet should show do it like 10/20 +10 with the + being the spectators and they should also show you on the right side or somewhere the server settings.

There’s a bad system out right now, where solo que’ers are facing really hard teams and when some people recognize the people on the other team and realize it’s a team, they bail out.

I don’t blame them, I wouldn’t want to get owned right outside my spawn area while the other team has all 3 points.

Just look at this, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsy1wmn1--U solo que team vs premade.

When you pvp long enough you regonize people’s name and the premades, people that leave rage instantly because they are facing a premade and sometimes its a premade that is why out of your league. Like that video right there. 40s and 50s vs 30s 10s and a 7.

I know that video is old, but I still see that kind of stuff today solo queing.

Amityel.5324:

I am also leaving quite often when I see I play with pug vs team……sorry but I wont waste my time just because ANET isnt competitive enough to split it for solo players and teams….everytime I log off I can do food for me or other things till match is over so….

yeah its pretty smart, your going to lose anyways so why even try right? Better to go take a break while stupid stuff like that happens rather than get frustrated that you cant kill anything and your team isn’t very good because the other team a premade is just facerolling you.

Engineer, they got best dps right now with good condition removal (elixirs remove conditions) with hgh. And they can bunker very good as well.

Engineers can spec for anything really. Thieves cant.

I also agree with you, I think if they reseted the leaderboard rankings it would give more incentive to tpvp, also it would boot off people who haven’t played in a month but are still in the leaderboards.

The leaderboards would be more accurate if they reset them.

Parisalchuk.9230:

How does the solo que have any effect on arenas? Complaints about solo que vs premades in tournaments is well known and documented. Premades in arenas and hotjoin? JUST LEAVE THE SERVER…

Why you derailing his thread?
You should know there is no such thing as solo queing hotjoin. All you do is join a hotjoin game you don’t que up your team or anything like that.

Yes solo que and premades need to be separate. It should be close to a 50 50 style system, not you lose 2 then face 2 premades and lose 2 more than win 2.

the only thing ill agree about is
solo queing and going up against a premade.
I’ve won against premade solo que, but it doesn’t happen very often.

TactualRain.7109:

Kuju.2153:

You don’t even have to win any tourney games.

…unless you want equivalent rewards to the old system.

Old system: 3 tournament matches, pretty much win or lose, and you get the dailies and a chest.
New system: 4 matches as you suggest without a chest, or (RNG) matches to get two tournament wins and a chest (…assuming you get your other daily needs).

If you factor rewards, not just completion, it’s not on parity.

If your not a pvp’er than the pvp tournament chest means nothing to you so why do you even care if you get a pvp chest. The only thing in a pvp chest for a pve’er is a chance at getting a dye, and you should know of better methods to farm gold in pve as in farming cof p1.

Just do 4 hotjoin games and you will get your daily pvp, no need to get greedy now.

very nice, ill try it out on some all out bunker guardians.

Warriors are fine, if not they are OP right now. Hence why people win tournaments 4 games out of 5 in all warrior team.

Take a look at this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbgVQ7LTYL0

You don’t see any all thief teams or all ranger teams, but you see a lot all warrior teams… I wonder why… Oh yeah they OP that’s why.

Downed state makes GW2 similar to chess. How you play durning down state is who determines whose going to win.

Cant tell you how many times in a 2v2 situation my teammate and I get someone down then my teammate goes down we start dpsing the other guy that’s downed because I go down moments later and then the other team guy that’s still alive is starting his finisher but HE DOESNT realize that his teammate is about to die and my teammate and I pop back up because we dps’ed the other downed guy and then we down the guy that was alive and we finish him.

Its all about chess and knowing what to do in situations to win, and if your too stubborn to rez your teammate that’s probably why you lose a lot of your fights.

TactualRain.7109:

Ezrael.6859:

You utterly ruined the Daily by adding 2 tournament wins.

Yep.

I know there’s one of the daily requirements you don’t have to meet, but it’s essentially “2 wins” or “map rotation.”

If 4 unique maps are needed, you’ve got about a 7-13 minute game per map, which is 1/2 an hour to just a shade under an hour. It can easily be that with Tournament, or more – having queued in the tournament system solo last night, I can attest that sometimes you just don’t win. The bell curve of distribution means that some people are just going to not be that good.

I guess the confusing thing for me is that the devs have mentioned they’re trying to find ways to make PvP more accessible to lower rank players / new people. Rewards are a good incentive (sure, playing the game is an incentive as well, but let’s say people want their shinies… because they do).

The rewards in Tournament are better than standard structured (wins give a chest). If we assume that the time investment is comparable (about an hour for a 4 unique maps, or about an hour for 2 wins) for a new player, that’s a lot of time. The previous system seemed to work better to me for newer players; it’s not scary, and you can kind of muddle your way through. The monthly had a win component, which is probably a nice stretch goal; now there’s a stretch goal in each daily, which doesn’t feel right. It’s not new-user-friendly.

Something’s just not right about the stacking now. After reading the thread I sort of get the normalisation between PvP and PvE daily time investments, but if you want your full stack of rewards (not just the laurel, but PvP: your booster and shard, PvE: your chest/karma/coin), you’ll be doing both.

Maybe this is by design; maybe the devs want a time sink in their game. That’s a shame, because it’s one of the things that people get tired of in MMOs. Some people love it, sure, but some people really don’t. It’s polarising; I’d suggest the game had enough time wasting potential without another grind.

Theres one called 4 games played. if you join a hotjoin and play 4 games you also get the 4 maps played because they rotate every map. If you actually rez people you’ll get the daily top stat or if you just go around and commune everything on sight you’ll get it. Just following the zerg will get you at least 5 kills per game, and 10 captures if you cap the near node with everyone else that’s 4 caps per game and if you follow the zerg and cap when they cap its not hard to get 6 more caps in 4 games. All you need is 2 to 3 caps a game and don’t tell me that’s too hard. Now you completed your daily, if you want 1 more achievement go ahead and try tpvp, your in a guild right? ask your guildies to tpvp with you. You have friends right? ask your friends to tpvp with you. If you don’t have either tough luck. Just solo que and follow people around so they stop whining about “where my team at”

This game focuses on bunker and switching bunkers when a bunker is going to go down.

Hence why 2 or 3 people on a cap wont have any effect as long as someone on other team usually a bunker is there.

XGhoul.7426:

Why does it even matter? Shouldn’t “YOU” play good enough to reach top 100 and take them out of it?

cant bring them down if they never play anymore.

No its not the laurels, because you can only get it by doing pve daily OR pvp daily and if pve’ers are getting laurels from pvp dailies, all that means is PvP dailies are too easy and quick to get which means they need to make it harder.

What the issue is, people that don’t care leaderboard rank or who are very terrible at pvp are FARMING glory via tpvp because theres no punishment for them, they don’t lose tournament tickets trying, they are already 0% on leaderboards hence they have nothing to lose and everything to gain, by extra 200 glory, a chest, leaderboard ranking, they can work on there champion title and so on. Basically they are farming glory, titles, and pvp gear, why would a terrible pvp’er do hotjoin instead of tpvp when hotjoin only offers glory and a worse title than tpvp.

Theres just no punishment for losing a tpvp game for people are very terrible at pvp and they can redo it as many times as they want to. That is why ANET needs to back back tournament tickets, so terrible pvp’ers cannot farm tpvp all day long, that will also make people group more because they will want actually win more than get glory in tpvp because you get another tournament ticket when you win.

Ever since ANET toke away tournament tickets an increase in people who don’t care a lot if they win have been flooding the tpvp.

Yes there are a lot of players who never play anymore and are still highly ranked because the current pvp ranking system is a joke.

If you don’t play for a week you should lose 100 rank, if you don’t play for 2 weeks 200, if you don’t play for 3 weeks 400, if you don’t play for 4 weeks 800, if you don’t play for 5 weeks 1600. It should be something like that.

Also if you do release something like that, make it effective starting whenever you release the leaderboards to bring those haven’t played for 5 weeks and rank 120 players down to 70% or whatever right away. Bring them down NOW!

Because I frankly don’t care if your the best and the best there will ever be, but if your not playing GW2 anymore, you don’t deserve to be rank 1 anymore. And if you haven’t playen in a month it shows your not playing anymore, and if you truly are good enough to be rank 120 and care, it wont be that hard to get back there when you come out of your 1 month inactivity.

If your a pve’er why on earth would you do a pvp daily, the reward gives you NOTHING pve wise. Go get your laurel doing the pve daily if you cant handle just having fun in pvp and let the dailies do themselves.

Tip: To get PvP daily, follow zerg around map for 4 games. Collect laurel at end of 4th game. Having issues with top stat awarded? Quit tagging kills and being selfish and rez someone.

yes I noticed some servers with a bunch of guilds hanging out, which is pretty awesome in a way, because its nice to see pvp guilds getting together. But it sure aint hard to find a normal game.

I think there should be an option to not show traits and gear because a lot of people are playing classes they don’t play when spectated.

Like for instance I saw caed and shangigans, do a 1v1 thief fight for kicks because they top rated so people will watch them, but I know caed mains a Mesmer so I wanted to see Mesmer fight whatever shangigans plays. Not them just play around all day with thief.

Also all I see is bunch of r20s and sometimes 30s duking it out 1v1, I see a couple r50s spectating but none of them are duking it out.

Me thinks people are scared to duke it out because there build will be revealed, and obviously playstyle.

And we all know what happens when a r50 shows his build. Everyone starts using it, aka hgh engy ostich eggs style.

However if you don’t show traits and gear, I have confidence r50s will feel more safe of actually playing there main build and duke it out and not play thieves war for fun.

they should have something like a consecutive daily, where the reward gets better and better the longer you keep getting the daily done day after day.

i think there should be unlimited amount of spectators, its not like its adding clutter all you do is watch people, I don’t see how that could lag people.

if your going to want this e-sports than you need to know theres going to be a lot more than 10 people watching a 5v5.

All I gotta say is I went into a 6v6 server and it turned out 10v10 and ya know it was mad fun.

maybe because they encouraging a ranger to have a skillset beastlord style where the pet does everything. I dont see any problem with pets being stronger.