So we, at BG, had the best moment ever (in terms of laughter) in SoR BL. Garrison trebs our NE wall of bay down 30mins-1hour before. We stall them at garrison for 1 hour hence making SoR unable to attack bay. We get pushed out of garrison and SoR attacks bay. Do they rush through the broken wall? No. They use 2 golems and their entire zerg of roughly 30 people (This is during late oceanic prime time btw, so don’t u SoR dare say anything about having no forces during this hour since you managed to push us out of garrison) to attack NW gate.
tldr? SoR attacks NW AB gate with 2 golems while NE outer wall is down
Speaking of dumb things, why was BG attacking Durios in EB last night, where the entire maps population was, when they could take 3-4 towers or a keep that were paper and undefended? Same thing for TC. Why catapult the wall when the doors down? Why treb Durios from stone mist and take down walls allowing TC to rush in and take the tower from SOR, then treb the wall down AGAIN, and allow SOr to rush in and take it back?
Where is SoR? lol Practically nonexistent in their strongest timezone.
They are around, just not in the triple zerg numbers like BG.
We were full up in EB, being double teamed by TC and BG. For some reason Durios is the only tower on the map. So BG would hit it, then TC, then BG, then TC, then BG. and we killed about 300 enemies just on the stairs.
Good fight in SM last night. SOR had kitten near every south wall down, TC was invading from the north, but BG just had a ton of seige and defenders. That place is defintely a fortress.
So, you win because theres no one fighting you much of the time?
So what if a guild leaves? There is no reason to be loyal to any server. Play the game for yourself first, then your guild, then your server if that makes you happy. Its not like you get anything for winning WvW anyway.
Very lucky that the bulk of TC doesn’t look at this way. It’s always server first for us.
Thats fine too. My point was theres nothing wrong with playing however and wherever makes you happy.
So what if a guild leaves? There is no reason to be loyal to any server. Play the game for yourself first, then your guild, then your server if that makes you happy. Its not like you get anything for winning WvW anyway.
It has certainly been a pleasure TC.
After 7 weeks of having IoJ only play for 2nd place, it was nice having another server in this matchup that is playing to win.
And for 7 weeks you’ve been using that BS excuse for your failings.
Did you even stop to wonder how IoJ stayed in T2 for so long despite being outmatched?
I’ll give you the answer: IoJ understands the Glicko rating system and tried to reduce BG’s overall weekly points so IoJ would either gain rating or minimize the loss.
In fact the only time IoJ actively targeted SoR on any notable scale was the week IoJ beat SoR.
I interpreted that as being the only one left playing after BG had such a lead on SOR that everyone quit for the week. And then as I recall, SOR focused on IOJ the next couple weeks and knocked you out of t2. So much for understanding the rating.
Looks normal to me for a work day.
Yep. Doesnt BG have jobs?
I have to say TC is doing a great job defending its keeps in TC BL. Tons of defensive seige, and if you leave them alone for a second, up goes a treb and takes down your tower walls. Its like clockwork. Not much on offense, but good defense.
Interesting things have been going on lately…
http://bornoficeandfire.weebly.com/
The above site has the screens that show just the kind of behavior that seems to be prevalent in this matchup, at least with one of our opponents…
One example does not equal prevalent. But no doubt there will be more from all sides.
You never know what kind of resistance you are gonna meet attacking a tower. You might meet 400 defenders and you might meet 3. Why wouldn’t you bring as many people and as much siege as you could?
I never understand this line of thinking and it always happens in the WvW threads. “You guys brought 400 people to take a tower, bunch of zerg noobs”. Why wouldn’t you bring that many people if you have them on the map?
Well they could just walked in and looked. That tower had no walls or defenders for about 10 mins before the golem showed up. I was starting to wonder. Maybe they were scared of my lone Charrdian.
BG brings 10 guys and a golem to take out a tower with no walls or defenders.
LOL, got an infraction for trash talking. BG is so sensetive.
BG invader running away from fluffies…
Not sure if serious.
It really happened. BG cant even beat fluffy toys without a zerg of 100.
Thank you for the update, sir.
I see you are also enjoying the new Signet of the Locust. It has changed my life.
Heh, thats an alt I rarely use, but didnt happen to be in LA.
Score. SoR will keep fighting, but its unlikely we have the numbers or coverage to keep up with BG as usual.
Good idea. We should have structured WvW on fridays and have 1v1s and such.
The rankings appear to be pretty accurate. The ratings for T2 havent changed much, BG has lost a few points, SOR has gained a few points, IOJ has gained a few points from a month ago.
17-Nov 24-Nov 1-Dec 8-Dec
BG 2026 2021 1981 2013
SOR 1924 1932 1929 1934
IOJ 1870 1867 1910 1873
To clarify: character death on disconnect is a WvW only change.
Problem here.
I slipped from enemy Garrison & landed on a ledge. Couldn`t drop further as I`d die (give Ele` fall trait damage please!!)
I was stuck in combat as your game still doesn`t register not having been hit for 1 second or 1 hour, as long as enemy is still near.
This means I & others HAVE to exit game to get back into the fight properly.Any chance of fixing these first please?
Dont waste dev time on rare exceptions. Just take the hit and move on.
I think SoR should move up just because we’re the only ones who do anything different week to week.
sor 93k
bg 83k
ioj 75k
That is how it’s intended. The glicko system isn’t just about win/loss 1st moves up 2nd stays 3rd moves down, it is about the type of performance expected based on the ratings in comparison to the other servers you are vsing. It is suppose to produce the most even match ups as possible. If it was 1st move up 2nd stays 3rd moves down, then quite possibly you would have the 3rd server moving down from the above tier smashing the other 2 servers and the server that came first moving up to the above tier getting smashed as well. Would you rather close tight matches as most of the tiers are now, or continuous blow outs every 2 weeks?
I would rather have blowouts once in a while to give people something different. Watching Federer play Nadal every week is boring. Sometimes you want to see Murray get lucky and beat Federer. Why not have 3 divisions instead where everyone in the division plays everyone else, and then the winners of each division play in a championship?
what happens if the superior troups decide to not-cap the last supply-camp from the losing server? Just don’t cap it in order to prevent the breakout-events… ?!
Camps are excluded. But see, you already found an exploit!
I dont like the sound of breakout events one bit.
1. it will be buggy, bugged, exploited and abused – players find a way
2. its a solution in need of a problem – players can already breakout, they just have to use their brains. scripted events only dull intelligence
3. dev time could be better spent on improving simple WvW things like better tools to organize groups
We should also add that beyond winning or losing a match, every point gets everyone on the server bonuses to almost every activity they do. Success in WvW helps people doing PVE.
Could you possibly add something about the importance of reviving allies?
As annoying and time-consuming it might seem to some, you actually gain experience from it. And not just that, if you’re about to get struck by enemies you’ll be wanting all the extra manpower you can muster – Regardless of whether you’re in one of the WvW jumping puzzles, in a keep or roaming around a bit.
The enemy can and will be lurking around any and every corner to try and ambush people – With or without culling issues a horde of enemy players can become a real pain if you’re outmatched 2 to 3; or when you’re a lower leveled player going up against a level 80 player/seasoned pro.
Good point:
Lowbies, newbies, solo players: even if you are of low level or skill, you can help!
-stay back from the fight and rez dead so they can get back in the fight
-finish off dead enemies
-run supply (from camps, not outposts!) to build seige weps
-man seige weps so deadlier players can get up and close
-buddy up and kill yaks and sentries (we get points)
-escort yaks to outposts
-scout map to find enemies
It’s about time SoR makes things interesting. It’s a shame a lot of them are talking like they’ve won with a 6k pt lead on a Sunday. Hasn’t this happened before? Anyone want to refresh my memory of how that outcome went? Oh right… I think SoR placed 3rd that week…
So youre saying since SoR is so far ahead of BG that BG will quit trying for first and IOJ will overtake BG to become first loser?
Someone from IOJ lose a golem near Arahs Hope? SoR found one but we had to disassemble it to get it back to lost and found.
Epic defense of southern IOJ by SoR. Infinite battle at BG spawn to greenbriar. Killed IOJ at bluebriar same time. Double teamed!
Could have been a coincidence to having people in the area. Events dont typically start unless there are enough people to do them. I imagine meta events need more people. How many did you have?
20 slot bag, karka shell, couple exotics and rares I couldnt use, but sell for a few gold. A welcome reward!
Any idea what happens after status ‘the pact are preparing to assult the Temple’ I sat in graveborn landing for a coupel hours and nothing happened other than defending the landing. Would like to buy some gear at the Temple, but its never open. This is on Sanctum of Rall.
Some sort of reward, like a trophy that gets placed in lions arch on each world which displays the name of the winner, and which the winning world can touch for a weekly buff.
Or a black lion key in everyones mailbox. Any other ideas?
I’ve taken notice that IoJ likes to fight for 2nd place. Would be nice to have WvWvW instead of WvWvRed Borderland.
Eh, its not like you get anything for coming in first.
got bored. made a chart
I commend the effort, but http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/33
Ah, much better. Thanks. That was my next thought. Hopefully one day AN will just host live info.
Eh, not much point in fighting once youre mathmatically first loser. SoR is saving its energy.
Is there a reward for winning a match? Maybe they should do something like that, give more incentive to win beyond bragging. A trophy in lions arch that you can touch to get every PVE guild banner bonus for the next week.
Take it to another thread before this one gets locked again.
Score update. Looks like we need to get all hands on deck for SOR to win.
Yes, that sounds like it could be more complex to implement though. Im looking more for very simple things I hope they could do in say, an afternoon. I agree, that is a desirable feature though.